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Official Reputation System Feedback Thread

salamiinfernosalamiinferno Member Posts: 159 Cryptic Developer
edited December 2012 in Tribble - General Discussion and Feedback
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  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,254 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    The unlocking of the adapted Honor Guard set at higher reputation levels has made the Breen set useless from a torpedo prospective. 25% to all torpedo damage from the adapted Honor Guard set or 20% to Transphasic torpedo only from Breen.

    EDIT:
    Does the Plasma bonus from the reman set work with the new Omega Plasma torpedo? I assume that Omega Plasma torp is from the reputation system.
  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2012
    Breen Set can easily be earned solo.

    KHG (and its Adapted MACO counterpart) takes a full team concerted effort, as you have to have achieved at least two pieces of a set which requires Elite STF runs to earn.

    The Breen and Jemhadar sets were not intended to be considered "end-game" sets. They are intended to be more of a step between typical Mk X-XI gear, and STF equipment.
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  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,254 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Thanks for the info and it gives me something to work towards. Always liked torpedo boats.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    Breen Set can easily be earned solo.

    KHG (and its Adapted MACO counterpart) takes a full team concerted effort, as you have to have achieved at least two pieces of a set which requires Elite STF runs to earn.

    The Breen and Jemhadar sets were not intended to be considered "end-game" sets. They are intended to be more of a step between typical Mk X-XI gear, and STF equipment.

    how about aegis, at the very least it should be on par with the borg set. the engine is good, +5 defence is nice and its a hyper, i think the deflecter had good mods in it, but the shields is basically just a blue quality cap2 cov, and thats just terrible. its set bonuses are very nice, but the shield is just bad. how about cap2, reg2? or cap2, +10% resistance like maco has? this shield would still be quite inferior to stf sets even with ether buff.
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  • phantomeightphantomeight Member Posts: 567 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    how about aegis, at the very least it should be on par with the borg set. the engine is good, +5 defence is nice and its a hyper, i think the deflecter had good mods in it, but the shields is basically just a blue quality cap2 cov, and thats just terrible. its set bonuses are very nice, but the shield is just bad. how about cap2, reg2? or cap2, +10% resistance like maco has? this shield would still be quite inferior to stf sets even with ether buff.

    I agree I think the Aegis deserves a pass. As it stands if the STFs sets are the only endgame sets, then we have no generic endgame set, only sets tailored against the Borg that also happen to be excellent against other factions.

    And sorry I feel like we are pulling this thread off track as this should be in the other thread about the three sets, but as far as moving forward for season 7 I think the status of the Aegis set among the others deserves to be cleared up.
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  • icegavelicegavel Member Posts: 991 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    phantomeight wrote: »
    I agree I think the Aegis deserves a pass. As it stands if the STFs sets are the only endgame sets, then we have no generic endgame set, only sets tailored against the Borg.

    It also doesn't help that it takes a few weeks of Di grinding to craft the Aegis set, after grinding to max crafting. That, or spending about 4 million EC on the Exchange.
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    how about aegis, at the very least it should be on par with the borg set. the engine is good, +5 defence is nice and its a hyper, i think the deflecter had good mods in it, but the shields is basically just a blue quality cap2 cov, and thats just terrible. its set bonuses are very nice, but the shield is just bad. how about cap2, reg2? or cap2, +10% resistance like maco has? this shield would still be quite inferior to stf sets even with ether buff.

    Doesn't the set bonus practically give it +10% resistance? I do however agree the capacity should be buffed a little.
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  • cptskeeterukcptskeeteruk Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    Breen Set can easily be earned solo.

    KHG (and its Adapted MACO counterpart) takes a full team concerted effort, as you have to have achieved at least two pieces of a set which requires Elite STF runs to earn.

    The Breen and Jemhadar sets were not intended to be considered "end-game" sets. They are intended to be more of a step between typical Mk X-XI gear, and STF equipment.


    Well in my bug ship at end game its all i play, id like to use the jem set but its pretty weak versus my current combo of omega def and eng and maco shield. I would hope that a endgame jem set for the bug ship ppl can be made i.e a mk x11 set version.
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  • captiancoppscaptiancopps Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Couldn't you just add a doff upgrade scheme or do something to infuse with omega to allow more sets to become end game gear that is more generic in nature rather than be borg focused? You are currently expanding on other factions such as the Tholians and I'm sure soon the Iconians, try to think forward moving?

    Not to mention the fact, you would expand the options for those in PvP who might not always have to face the same sets over and over... lets get some spice in there?

    Edit:

    If you are worried that these expanded sets might somehow outclass the main borg sets, use the Omega marks you are creating to infuse into these sets as that seems to be the new direction for end game material. Make it something just as hard to earn.

    P.S. Can you please fix the Jem Set to actually do the bonus "Victory is Life" like it's supposed to...
  • cptskeeterukcptskeeteruk Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    captiancopps wrote: »
    Couldn't you just add a doff upgrade scheme or do something to infuse with omega to allow more sets to become end game gear that is more generic in nature rather than be borg focused? You are currently expanding on other factions such as the Tholians and I'm sure soon the Iconians, try to think forward moving?

    Not to mention the fact, you would expand the options for those in PvP who might not always have to face the same sets over and over... lets get some spice in there?

    I agree 100%
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I just logged on Tribble to check out the reputation system and I ALREADY HATE IT!

    Dilithium Cost? DOFF Cost? Fleet Starbses have left me with no more Dilithum and on top of that, a fourth grind? (STF, Fleet, Romulan, and Dilithium).

    And all those MONTHS working to get Elite MACO / Omega / and Honor Guard sets ......... I HAVE TO WORK MORE? Are you kidding me???



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  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    and the 8000 a day limit will not change anytime soon :(
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  • kekvinkekvin Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I like it simple and easy atm.
  • raythilo2345raythilo2345 Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    my thoughts on the reputation system...

    absolutely PITIFUL

    go back to the drawing board cryptic.
  • bridgernbridgern Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Go and buy one of your DEV's TOR to look how a real reputation system looks.
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Is just the STF Store with the fleet system! Is not even something new!!! Lame.. just lame.. and is going to made a lot of players mad.
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  • braotisbraotis Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    You couldn't do something simple, like every other game. Instead its a ridiculous version of the fleet star base.
    Go play W.o.W and learn how to make a real reputation system.
  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Keep in mind KHG only boosts torps, not mines like Breen set does. Unless this is a tribble change.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    So it takes 2k dil to get to tier I reputation. I guess that the requirements will increase with tier upgrades. I might want to see the upper tier requirements before giving a better insight on this. Looks easily achievable and ok from tier I though.

    I'm curious about the store and the prices. Will it be on par with the current ones - 2k dil for a purple anti borg Mk XII item?

    One bug: the 2k reputation omega assignment has a fleetmark icon.
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    The Breen and Jemhadar sets were not intended to be considered "end-game" sets. They are intended to be more of a step between typical Mk X-XI gear, and STF equipment.

    Yeah you forgot to mention how the jem hadar and galor design is with the jem hadar set :)
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited October 2012
    zeuxidemus001 wrote: »
    Yeah you forgot to mention how the jem hadar and galor design is with the jem hadar set :)

    Maybe an option there would be to add a Jem'Hadar set upgrade for dilithium to Galor or Bugship owners.

    As-is, the Galor is mostly useful for the weapons you strip off of it and have access to more of from the store.
  • cptskeeterukcptskeeteruk Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Ok reputation system is the starbase fleet system. Sorry but NO FRIGGEN WAY am i doing that grind. A copy of a the fleet system for omega stuff, do one.
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  • carl103carl103 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Breen Set can easily be earned solo.

    KHG (and its Adapted MACO counterpart) takes a full team concerted effort, as you have to have achieved at least two pieces of a set which requires Elite STF runs to earn.

    The Breen and Jemhadar sets were not intended to be considered "end-game" sets. They are intended to be more of a step between typical Mk X-XI gear, and STF equipment.

    Nothing personol, but you do realise that by the time people can get thes sets they will allmost certianlly have the supiriour borg or part STF sets...

    Having them be so infiriour is the same as saying don't ever even consider using them. Becuase there's simply no reason to, you can get better gear immidietlly.
  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Are the numbers in the Reputation System going to be the same when they go live? Because quite honestly... I can live with the numbers as they are now... but any higher and I will not partake...

    Dont increase the EXP costs for tiers and do not increase the amount needed to contribute to personal projects and all will be fine.
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  • pwefailpwefail Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    Breen Set can easily be earned solo.


    The Breen and Jemhadar sets were not intended to be considered "end-game" sets. They are intended to be more of a step between typical Mk X-XI gear, and STF equipment.

    nobody,but nobody uses the breen set for stfs,everyone get to lvl 45 and throws on some normal shields from some random drop and does enough to get the borg stuff for edcs then by the time they have 15 edcs they are at Va and rdy for elite stfs.

    the breen set was originally made a for commander rank as a "low rank ship set",since you now reach Va before you have access to the breen set its a waste of everryones time and effort.

    put the breen series back to commander level and more people may use the breen set.
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  • salamiinfernosalamiinferno Member Posts: 159 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2012
    Several people that have looked at the system have mentioned that the pricing looks pretty achievable. They would be correct. This system was designed to be relatively painless, and was based on actual data draws of the daily currency earn rate of the average player then only a fraction of that.

    For a peek at the future, running two T5 xp projects will cost 8k dilithium total. So we're asking for 8k dilithium every 40 hours at the very top end, not too bad.

    Gear will cost more in line with the dilithium store as far as dilithium costs go, but for actually progressing through the system and earning the captain powers its very very achievable.
  • cptskeeterukcptskeeteruk Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Salmini, mate, regardless of the resource amounts, we dont want to grind for them things in this fashion. We dont mind so much if its a reward for doing a mission or a series of missions like stf cure, infected and ka. But this fleet system converted to a player system will not work, no one wants it no one will do it. We arnt easterners.

    Take this feedback to your bosses and tell em to think up somit else that involved gameplay not work. We want to earn things a fun way through missions or gameplay not through systems of grind. This is not what should be in a game.
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  • squishkinsquishkin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    The only issue that I have thus far is that because of the way the window is placed in the character screen, expanding it so that it comfortably shows all the reputation items makes the visuals for every other category way out of whack.

    Is there any way the reputation window can be moved to its own screen, away from the character info one?
  • docroadie69docroadie69 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Anyway you could decrease Cool down on Reputation Projects to less than 4 hours (while in tribble).
    I just completed my first one and the cool down was 1 day and 16 hours. I understand that that's what it probably should be in the holodeck but It would take longer to test it with current time frame. I believe s7 will be out long before I/we would test/complete all 5 Tiers to see if they work :)

    thank you..
  • kandorouskandorous Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    cptskeeteruk wrote: »
    no one wants it no one will do it.

    Uh... I want it and will do it... :confused:
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