Honestly, does anybody ever use Mask Energy Signature II in PvP? My impression is that the stealth value is too low to bring to bear against enemy players.
The cloak will drop for 3 seconds each time a firing cycle starts. Most players set all energy weapons to fire simultaneously, and so are unlikely to find any benefit from this ability other than the passive +Defense field.
We're trying to get the sets up for "free" on Tribble soon. Be sure to keep an eye on patch notes if you'd like to try these out before Season 7 comes to Holodeck.
So if you think that. Wy can you not breen the power up then?
I want to see the video of the Fleet Nebula, Fleet Armitage, Recluse, Mobius, and Chimera sneaking across the field of battle toward an unsuspecting PUG...
...I don't want to be in that PUG, but I want to see the video.
Honestly, does anybody ever use Mask Energy Signature II in PvP? My impression is that the stealth value is too low to bring to bear against enemy players.
The cloak will drop for 3 seconds each time a firing cycle starts. Most players set all energy weapons to fire simultaneously, and so are unlikely to find any benefit from this ability other than the passive +Defense field.
We're trying to get the sets up for "free" on Tribble soon. Be sure to keep an eye on patch notes if you'd like to try these out before Season 7 comes to Holodeck.
Thanks for the answer... I don't think it will be a big deal myself... like you say anyone firing nrg weapons isn't going to be cloaked at all ever, unless they are stagger firing, or only popping beam overloads... but at that point there not likely to kill anyone even if they manage to get 4 ships all in the field.
My only question and mabey you can answer... is does it act like an EBC and not decloak you if you fire Torps? I could see issues there as fully kinetic escorts you can't see would be an issue. However if thats not the case then... I agree that it won't be a big deal, AOE defense field at that point.
Honestly, does anybody ever use Mask Energy Signature II in PvP? My impression is that the stealth value is too low to bring to bear against enemy players.
The cloak will drop for 3 seconds each time a firing cycle starts. Most players set all energy weapons to fire simultaneously, and so are unlikely to find any benefit from this ability other than the passive +Defense field.
We're trying to get the sets up for "free" on Tribble soon. Be sure to keep an eye on patch notes if you'd like to try these out before Season 7 comes to Holodeck.
MES requires you to be out of battle mode to use, it's a 1 and done kinda thing. This sounds like EBC+.
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theoretically 4 ppl could chain them back to back. If someone gets in trouble, couldn't they just stop firing weapons and just vanish? (short of having a sensor scan on them)
5 scorts or bops dropping a BO, tric mines and torps every 30 secs and vanishing 3 secs later
why bother w/BoPs at that point?
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Lets see Kdf on teamspeak unleashing 5 BO3s
And 5 overloaded torps or mines.
Recloak rinse repeat
Sounds like fun times for the Kdf what a great
Way to recruit for the faction
Adding Kdf HG perks to my ground character, I like
That. .......A lot
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Lets see Kdf on teamspeak unleashing 5 BO3s
And 5 overloaded torps or mines.
Recloak rinse repeat
Sounds like fun times for the Kdf what a great
Way to recruit for the faction
Adding Kdf HG perks to my ground character, I like
That. .......A lot
dont forget an 5x aceton assimilators as well so that if you try to aoe the incoming trics, your gonna burn yourself further
and why torps "or" mines? Both!
Torp spread3, BO2, Dispersal3, VM1, aceton TRIBBLE., and what the hell, a boarding party to give them more TRIBBLE to shoot at instead of the spread and the mines. All of this on one bop x5 that all dissappear 3 secs later. with a potential 100% EBC up time!
bops could add a PSW, Tykens, GW, VM, or a SS to the mix?
Couldn't a lot of other ships w/better layouts than BoPs?
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Lets see Kdf on teamspeak unleashing 5 BO3s
And 5 overloaded torps or mines.
Recloak rinse repeat
Sounds like fun times for the Kdf what a great
Way to recruit for the faction
Adding Kdf HG perks to my ground character, I like
That. .......A lot
You forgot the part where feds are getting access to this too.
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The proble. The borg set peices aren't that far behind and the pc bonusus are so massivlly good that they more than make up the diffrance. If that wasn't so no one would be running 3pc borg + MACO sheild now.
Thats why their changing things. to enshure 3pc borg isn't supiriour to 3pc MACO, (and belive me from my experiance it would be).
if they equip enough of these sets on a team, they can run around cloaked until the time step is off cd, e1 strikes with the same amount of sci possible, and ONE person hits there backstep to freeze them.
Rinse and repeat with the next timeship equipped with all that junk.
Im not forgetting at all. It will suck just as bad.
I was refering to the other poster who seemed excited about this being a boost for KDF. As it is now w/Raiders while we haven't done it there's been chatter about equiping them w/psw&ams for each Fed and have a team of sci/tac debuffs follow that up torp spam on a target while they recover from stuns/confuse. I thought giving raiders ams was a bad idea, now it's like EBC+ to all ships ...
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MES will never be useful unless it works like a battle cloak. its stealth is so bad compared to a normal cloak that anyone flying close will be able to see you, it would not be unbalanced against a cloak most kdf ships get for free.
so after a grind, there will be maco shields for everyone, and feds can use kinetic as well as kdf can. whatever i guess.
MES will never be useful unless it works like a battle cloak. its stealth is so bad compared to a normal cloak that anyone flying close will be able to see you, it would not be unbalanced against a cloak most kdf ships get for free.
so after a grind, there will be maco shields for everyone, and feds can use kinetic as well as kdf can. whatever i guess.
I guess I could be over reacting, but this doesn't seem like a good idea @ all to me. Espcially if it can be used while in combat mode.
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drunk's right in that it will matter what there stealth is buffed to. The term "enhanced battle cloak" scares me much more than MES does. I've never used a full aux MES2 though, so I'm not sure what the range is on it.
The assimilated KHG space set can't allow
A fed galaxy class to use battlecloak can it ?
It doesn't have a cloaking device the set enhances
Existing cloak right ?
It doesn't add cloaking ability on it's own does it ?
If it does that's breaking cannon big time
The Feds agreed not to equip cloaks on it's fleet
To maintain peace with the Romulans
I didn't think cryptic. Had the authority to do that
The gal x and defiant are special cases
I don't like cannon destroyed I'n this way
Doesn't matter we already have gunboat size
Ships with dreadnoughts weaponry
Whatever..............
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Jellico1: aside from the fact that said treaty is now null and void, (jempok withdrew from the khitimor accord which said treaty is a subset off AFAIK), there's the siple fact that it isn't a cloak, it's a jamming feild. Think modern jammer aircraft.
But the Romulans and Federation had a treaty
At Kittomere as well
Even with the Klingons disregarding the treaty
That would have no bearing on the Fed/Rom side
I would think
It was a VERY big deal I'n TNG they even had a few
Shows mostly devoted to it and it was referee to
I'n a few ds9 shows as well
Just doesn't seem right unless a few story missions
Are devoted to changing the cannon
It would be like Kronos shipyards building raiders
And selling them to Feds for tribbles
The federation would never break a agreement like
This unless it's survival was I'n doubt
I guess a small matter like cannon isn't worth
Considering or it was overlooked perhaps
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I like the idea of cross faction sets. At least, it give us more options.
The changes to the STF set bonuses are still too conservative. If you're comparing for the regular, random hull/shield heal of the Borg set, the MACO and Omega Force three piece bonuses still seem VERY underwhelming. (Honor Guard, not so much IMO, but I'll leave it to the PVPers to cry nerf.) I'd error on the side of lesser cooldowns/more duration than better effect.
As far as the MACO passive, I'll just spitball some ideas that really focuses on helping with STFS:
1) Like the Borg set basically gives a free Hazard Emitter and Transfer Shield Strength, how about adding a free, random Polarize Hull gives tractor immunity and helps damage resistance?
2) Anything that helps the random, crits of death by the cubes/gates.
3) An Evasive Manuever cooldown so we can get to the Kang/probes quicker.
Giving each faction equal access to all the best gear and ships increases balance, obviously, but at the expense of making things very bland. When everyone is using lockbox ships with the exact same gear regardless of faction, what the hell is the point of having two different factions in the first place?
This is what should've been done from the outright. Both sides should've have access to the same skills, tools, ships, gear, everything. Only the cosmetics should've been different; that gives the flavor to each side.
Ironically, the most balanced things in the game are the boxships against one another.
With this change, PVP goes one step further to better balance.
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Honestly, does anybody ever use Mask Energy Signature II in PvP? My impression is that the stealth value is too low to bring to bear against enemy players.
The cloak will drop for 3 seconds each time a firing cycle starts. Most players set all energy weapons to fire simultaneously, and so are unlikely to find any benefit from this ability other than the passive +Defense field.
We're trying to get the sets up for "free" on Tribble soon. Be sure to keep an eye on patch notes if you'd like to try these out before Season 7 comes to Holodeck.
The problem with MES is that it can realistically only be used once in a battle and is a defensive skill that can only be used when you already not being attacked.
It needs to either be allowed to be used while being attacked to make it a real defensive skill or changed into somthing else. But as it stands now it has no place in modern pvp matches.
Besides this set will completely nullify MES even more then it already is.
Yesterday, we performed another tuning pass on the set bonuses associated with these high-end sets. The changes we settled on are conservative (mostly), but we think that players will enjoy the increase in effectiveness that all of these powers will receive. Here are the details of what should show up on Tribble soon:
MACO:
2-Piece -
* For the time being, we've chosen to not increase the cooldown reduction offered by this bonus. Because it impacts too many different cooldowns, making it larger than 5% can lead to some scaling issues. Instead, we're looking at possibly adding another passive effect alongside it, and would welcome suggestions.
3-Piece -
* We've chosen to not increase the damage dealt by this ability, as it was never intended for the damage component to be its primary source of utility.
* Knockback has been increased.
* Added Engines Offline and Weapons Offline effects, to go alongside the existing Aux Offline.
OMEGA:
2-Piece -
* No changes for the time being, but we're looking into it.
* One problem with the current Tetryon Glider is that it drains all four facings simultaneously. We're considering changing it to only drain the facing that is hit, which would allow us to also increase the magnitude of the effect a bit.
3-Piece -
* We're increasing the speed of the projectile by a large amount.
* Many have asked for the Kinetic Debuff and Defense Debuff magnitudes to swap places, but that's unlikely to occur. Keep in mind that enemy NPCs have an innate Defense value that is not based on their speed alone. Debuffing that, even all the way into negative figures, allows any innate Accuracy you may possess to spill over into Crit bonuses at a higher rate. Also, this is effectively a full-team buff. We believe the magnitude of the effects scale well enough in a team setting that increasing them would be a bad idea.
KHG:
2-Piece -
* We haven't reviewed the data on this one yet, but also haven't heard many complaints about it, if any. It may be fine as-is.
3-Piece -
* This power wasn't quite functioning in a way that we wanted it to, and so portions of it have been rebuilt. We're still not completely sure that it's up to snuff, and are definitely keeping an eye on it.
* It is now more like an AOE Enhanced Battle Cloak, but also allows Energy Weapons to be fired. If you are under the effects of the Mask Energy Field, and fire a weapon, you will be revealed for a couple seconds before the effect takes hold again. Unlike an EBC, your shields stay active while stealthed.
* The effect lasts 30 seconds and has a recharge of 120 seconds, allowing for frequent up-time.
* Even if the stealth effect is not active on you (because you are firing weapons, or are being fired upon), you will still benefit from the +Defense bonus it offers.
ALL SETS:
We were planning to surprise folks with this news when we released the Omega Reputation, but in the interest of the ongoing balance discussions, I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag...
We've decided to introduce cross-faction sets. But, let me clarify...
Upon reach Tier 5 in Omega Reputation, players will now unlock the ability to earn an "Adapted" version of their faction's Ground and Space Sets, each of which confer the exact same stats as their counterpart. In other words, the Adapted MACO Space Set will have the exact same stats and effects as the existing Klingon Honor Guard Space Set, while maintaining the cosmetic appearance of the MACO set.
The Adapted Ground Sets will actually have a new costume attached to them that has not yet been released. Another variant of the existing MACO and KHG armors. And again, just to be clear, this does not mean you'll see Federation players wearing Klingon outfits and vice versa - they will still appear cosmetically as the appropriate faction, and simply possess the stats & bonuses of the opposite faction.
This move is being done in order to bring some parity to the faction-specific sets. Hopefully allowing all players to have access to the effects of all of the sets will allow for more universal feedback and a more balanced gameplay experience.
Not sure if i like this idea too much. Especially because kdf have the plasmonic leech console. if adapted kdf set has the maco shield proc that boosts power +10%, added to the +16% that leech gives, KDF would have a potential +26% to ALL subsystems.
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...I don't want to be in that PUG, but I want to see the video.
I did - sort of, back when you could infinifarm Ker'rat. It was a way to fly around and chat, rather than sitting there dead and chatting...
...but uh, outside of that - no.
Thanks for the answer... I don't think it will be a big deal myself... like you say anyone firing nrg weapons isn't going to be cloaked at all ever, unless they are stagger firing, or only popping beam overloads... but at that point there not likely to kill anyone even if they manage to get 4 ships all in the field.
My only question and mabey you can answer... is does it act like an EBC and not decloak you if you fire Torps? I could see issues there as fully kinetic escorts you can't see would be an issue. However if thats not the case then... I agree that it won't be a big deal, AOE defense field at that point.
MES requires you to be out of battle mode to use, it's a 1 and done kinda thing. This sounds like EBC+.
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why bother w/BoPs at that point?
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And 5 overloaded torps or mines.
Recloak rinse repeat
Sounds like fun times for the Kdf what a great
Way to recruit for the faction
Adding Kdf HG perks to my ground character, I like
That.
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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dont forget an 5x aceton assimilators as well so that if you try to aoe the incoming trics, your gonna burn yourself further
and why torps "or" mines? Both!
Torp spread3, BO2, Dispersal3, VM1, aceton TRIBBLE., and what the hell, a boarding party to give them more TRIBBLE to shoot at instead of the spread and the mines. All of this on one bop x5 that all dissappear 3 secs later. with a potential 100% EBC up time!
Couldn't a lot of other ships w/better layouts than BoPs?
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You forgot the part where feds are getting access to this too.
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Thats why their changing things. to enshure 3pc borg isn't supiriour to 3pc MACO, (and belive me from my experiance it would be).
Im not forgetting at all. It will suck just as bad.
if they equip enough of these sets on a team, they can run around cloaked until the time step is off cd, e1 strikes with the same amount of sci possible, and ONE person hits there backstep to freeze them.
Rinse and repeat with the next timeship equipped with all that junk.
I was refering to the other poster who seemed excited about this being a boost for KDF. As it is now w/Raiders while we haven't done it there's been chatter about equiping them w/psw&ams for each Fed and have a team of sci/tac debuffs follow that up torp spam on a target while they recover from stuns/confuse. I thought giving raiders ams was a bad idea, now it's like EBC+ to all ships ...
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"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
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so after a grind, there will be maco shields for everyone, and feds can use kinetic as well as kdf can. whatever i guess.
I guess I could be over reacting, but this doesn't seem like a good idea @ all to me. Espcially if it can be used while in combat mode.
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A fed galaxy class to use battlecloak can it ?
It doesn't have a cloaking device the set enhances
Existing cloak right ?
It doesn't add cloaking ability on it's own does it ?
If it does that's breaking cannon big time
The Feds agreed not to equip cloaks on it's fleet
To maintain peace with the Romulans
I didn't think cryptic. Had the authority to do that
The gal x and defiant are special cases
I don't like cannon destroyed I'n this way
Doesn't matter we already have gunboat size
Ships with dreadnoughts weaponry
Whatever..............
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
But the Romulans and Federation had a treaty
At Kittomere as well
Even with the Klingons disregarding the treaty
That would have no bearing on the Fed/Rom side
I would think
It was a VERY big deal I'n TNG they even had a few
Shows mostly devoted to it and it was referee to
I'n a few ds9 shows as well
Just doesn't seem right unless a few story missions
Are devoted to changing the cannon
It would be like Kronos shipyards building raiders
And selling them to Feds for tribbles
The federation would never break a agreement like
This unless it's survival was I'n doubt
I guess a small matter like cannon isn't worth
Considering or it was overlooked perhaps
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
The changes to the STF set bonuses are still too conservative. If you're comparing for the regular, random hull/shield heal of the Borg set, the MACO and Omega Force three piece bonuses still seem VERY underwhelming. (Honor Guard, not so much IMO, but I'll leave it to the PVPers to cry nerf.) I'd error on the side of lesser cooldowns/more duration than better effect.
As far as the MACO passive, I'll just spitball some ideas that really focuses on helping with STFS:
1) Like the Borg set basically gives a free Hazard Emitter and Transfer Shield Strength, how about adding a free, random Polarize Hull gives tractor immunity and helps damage resistance?
2) Anything that helps the random, crits of death by the cubes/gates.
3) An Evasive Manuever cooldown so we can get to the Kang/probes quicker.
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This is a bad change.
Ironically, the most balanced things in the game are the boxships against one another.
With this change, PVP goes one step further to better balance.
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The problem with MES is that it can realistically only be used once in a battle and is a defensive skill that can only be used when you already not being attacked.
It needs to either be allowed to be used while being attacked to make it a real defensive skill or changed into somthing else. But as it stands now it has no place in modern pvp matches.
Besides this set will completely nullify MES even more then it already is.
Not sure if i like this idea too much. Especially because kdf have the plasmonic leech console. if adapted kdf set has the maco shield proc that boosts power +10%, added to the +16% that leech gives, KDF would have a potential +26% to ALL subsystems.
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