You sound sad, unhappy, masking these feeling with some pseudo-intellectual mumbo-jumbo of being competent and insight?...
This game obviously makes you pretty miserable and frustrated...
Take some time off it, try something else, which will bring you more joy...
This is not healthy, trust me...
You are deliberately insulting me. You will not get actioned for it, for reasons that are obvious.
This is another typical PWE tactic. Resort to ridicule and patronizing language. Imply that anyone who doesn't approve of their effort to separate players from their $$$ is flawed in some way.
I wouldn't worry about the 29th century uniform being in the Lobi Store. According to this post with images from the Tribble section. It definitely needs a lot of work!
It's nice to see that the color pallet for the Relativity uniform is fixed but this uniform needs polishing. The rank is angled incorrectly and the commbadge is sits too far off of the toon and is crocked. With the longer hair, it also covers part of the badge. In this state, the uniform isn't even worth 5 Lobi. :mad:
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I could ask you the same question. If you have nothing to do but say that PWE is awesome, why post?
You are deliberately insulting me. You will not get actioned for it, for reasons that are obvious.
This is another typical PWE tactic. Resort to ridicule and patronizing language. Imply that anyone who doesn't approve of their effort to separate players from their $$$ is flawed in some way.
Aestu, I don't know how to tell this to you. (oh, wait, I do!)
Your entire attitude is deserving of a ban because you call anybody who disagrees with you an undercover PWE community manager.
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You're actually getting rare drops in elite difficulty? How!? All I get is 3x more common JUNK drops... :rolleyes:
Yes, last night I got a blue tetryon phaser beam array mark 7 from a space random mission and after that I got a blue disruptor stun pistol mark 7 from a random ground mission.
They drop like confetti...
So, I seriously don't understand what the big deal and whinage is about spending the time to grind...
It's a F2P MMO, for Christ's sake, you have a choice - either spend time to grind or pay with a cash for stuff you want.
Some guy said here - everything you pay with cash is optional.
I often laugh to people who whine stuff for crafting requires Dil...
Why do you craft the stuff with Dil? Because of 5 more points of DPS?
Seriously?
P.S. aestu, I will purchase 4000 ZEN with real cash next month just to make you more miserable...
I often laugh to people who whine stuff for crafting requires Dil...Why do you craft the stuff with Dil? Because of 5 more points of DPS? Seriously?
You might as well ask why play the game. Character progression is the substance of the game. No progression, no game. Which brings us here and people choosing not to play.
Actually, your argument is merely a spin of the OP, which is that the substance of the game is pointless suck. You are just trying to make it sound reasonable.
P.S. aestu, I will purchase 4000 ZEN with real cash
4000 zpoints is $50. For $50 you can buy more than one brand new game, or several months of sub time in a sub-based game. You can buy a lot more stuff than some pixels in a grindy MMO.
I can understand the problem if people are excited for something to be added to the game, only to have it gated behind Zen and/or an annoying grind. Some will put up with the costs, others will be upset.
Personally, I don't get excited about anything new unless I find out that I'll enjoy it, and I'll have access to it either immediately or in a way that's fun for me. It helps that I'm not obsessive about Star Trek lore. For example, I'm fine with the ships that are available to me for free in the game. Gate something behind lobi crystals, STFs, lots of Zen, etc, and I'll just pretend it doesn't exist.
4000 zpoints is $50. For $50 you can buy more than one brand new game, or several months of sub time in a sub-based game. You can buy a lot more stuff than some pixels in a grindy MMO.
Says the guy, who has a "Carrier Officer" title...
What's this? A 300 dollars for a lifetime sub?
My friend, you make me laugh on so many levels...
But, seriously...
Just have fun with the game. Or don't.
If you don't have fun with the game and the way people play it, pay for it, etc., don't call them "idiots who pay $$$ for pixels"...
You just make fun of yourself this way.
For real.
Use good sense, a sense of humor, and when in doubt re-read the forum rules.
PS. Implied insults are still insults and thinly-veiled hostility is still hostility. There's plenty of that kind of provocation going on from more than one person in this thread and I'm going to ask everyone doing it to stop before it escalates any further. Please sincerely respect other peoples' opinions, politely agree or disagree, and get back on topic, or this thread will be closed and moderation will be meted out accordingly.
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I decided that I wouldn't open any lock boxes when they first came out. Gambling is gambling, and gambling's very purpose is for the gambler to lose. Why would I take part in something that I'm going to lose in?
If cryptic ever wants me to spend anything on this game again, then they will have to put its in the c-store. I play the game to have fun, not because I'm broke and/or cheap, I'm not going to grind for dilithium (and I'll never pay for it) or ec for hours and hours to buy stuff.
All the people continuing to foolishly buy key after key is just supporting this behaviour by cryptic
Edit: The forums are acting weird. This post here I posted in a different thread but it showed up in this thread. Ive seen people's posts in multiple threads too. o.O
The forums aren't 'acting weird', the posts were merged because we're not supposed to make multiple threads about the same thing.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
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Why do the same people keep saying this in the same voice? The game is optional.
Silly argument is silly. By this logic you must agree with the OP for choosing not to do something optional, no?
PWE has a long habit of doing this and they also spam-edited the Memory Alpha page on the Wells before it appeared in lockboxes.
Find ways to squeeze $$$ from consumers then pretend the community "demanded" worthless kitsch instead of real content.
The reason that Cryptic can squeeze $$$ from consumers is because the consumers in question are not exercising good judgement. In a consenting transaction, where both parties understand the nature of the transaction, both parties bear responsibility for entering into the transaction.
Let me illustrate with an example - I offer to sell a mouldy potato that I picked up at the side of the road for $1,000,000 on the basis that it looks a bit like Elvis Presley.
If a rich Elvis fan is stupid enough to pay me $1,000,000 for a potato that looks a bit like Elvis, knowing full well that it is a potato that looks a bit like Elvis and has no real value otherwise, do they have any legitimate cause for complaint if they gave me the money of their own free will and choice?
Businesses listen very carefully to their cash registers - if you spend your money while complaining, they have no reason to listen to your complaints or take them seriously, because you have demonstrated by your actions that you are willing to hand over the cash anyway even though both you and them know the price is overinflated. They will proceed to continue to charge what the market will stand, keeping prices inflated until people stop handing over their money.
Why do you even post in this forum, since this game makes you feel so negative about it?
You sound sad, unhappy, masking these feeling with some pseudo-intellectual mumbo-jumbo of being competent and insight?...
This game obviously makes you pretty miserable and frustrated...
Take some time off it, try something else, which will bring you more joy...
This is not healthy, trust me...
I think you can blame that guy who started "Where's our relativity uniform?!?!" thread on the forums..
These uniforms have always been planned to go into the Lobi store, along with the other Temporal themed items -- they were featured in the original video for the Temporal Lockbox (here) and its description says: Note: The 29th Century Federation Uniform shown in the video, as well as a unique version for the KDF, will be obtainable from the Lobi Store in the near future.
And assuming an average Lobi drop of 4.5 Lobi per lockbox opened, the temporal uniforms work out to $44.44. Per character. And that's me feeling slightly optimistic about the Lobi per Lockbox rate.
Yeah, that's a pass from me, I'll wait until they're on the exchange at a reasonable price. I'm not paying $88.88 just to use the uniform on two characters.
What ever happened to the rumored GPL store that would hold costumes and emotes? What happened to throwing costumes into the CStore for unlock for use on all characters? Why all the focus on per-character unlocks? Its beginning to feel like we're being enticed to not have alts.
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These uniforms have always been planned to go into the Lobi store, along with the other Temporal themed items -- they were featured in the original video for the Temporal Lockbox (here) and its description says: Note: The 29th Century Federation Uniform shown in the video, as well as a unique version for the KDF, will be obtainable from the Lobi Store in the near future.
Any chance of getting the badge fixed on female toons as it hovers1-2 inches above the toons bust and looking from the side it is paper thin as wells disappears from site.
Interesting how you talk in that same patronizing pen voice with false concessives
("I said...pay attention", "I don't know how to tell you...oh wait I do").
Actually, I never said that. You came to that conclusion on your own.
Do you think the guy insulting me should be banned too? Or just me for criticizing PWE?
I didn't want to throw it out flat. :P
I don't see any insults. Just guesses as to your motivation. Besides, constructive criticism (wait, people actually do that?) is a lot better than just saying "This game sucks, it's a cash grab, uninstall it and treat it like a computer virus!".
I don't mean to say it's not a cash grab. Everything - or at least almost everything - on this entire planet is a cash grab. Especially computer software. Just deal with it.
As you yourself have said, paying for stuff in this game is optional, and playing it doubly so.
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I could ask you the same question. If you have nothing to do but say that PWE is awesome, why post?
You are deliberately insulting me. You will not get actioned for it, for reasons that are obvious.
This is another typical PWE tactic. Resort to ridicule and patronizing language. Imply that anyone who doesn't approve of their effort to separate players from their $$$ is flawed in some way.
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Aestu, I don't know how to tell this to you. (oh, wait, I do!)
Your entire attitude is deserving of a ban because you call anybody who disagrees with you an undercover PWE community manager.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Interesting how you talk in that same patronizing pen voice with false concessives
("I said...pay attention", "I don't know how to tell you...oh wait I do").
Actually, I never said that. You came to that conclusion on your own.
Do you think the guy insulting me should be banned too? Or just me for criticizing PWE?
They drop like confetti...
So, I seriously don't understand what the big deal and whinage is about spending the time to grind...
It's a F2P MMO, for Christ's sake, you have a choice - either spend time to grind or pay with a cash for stuff you want.
Some guy said here - everything you pay with cash is optional.
I often laugh to people who whine stuff for crafting requires Dil...
Why do you craft the stuff with Dil? Because of 5 more points of DPS?
Seriously?
P.S. aestu, I will purchase 4000 ZEN with real cash next month just to make you more miserable...
Cryptic saw his posts and the many people who read the posts and then they got an idea: There's a demand...lets make a killing!
So.. you see, you have to blame that guy for making the post and giving cryptic a hint that there's actually something they can profit from.
Here is a small thought with big implications;
All the lobi and lockbox items are entirely optional purchases.
You have another choice and that is not to play. That is what the OP is discussing.
What gives you the right to write off his choice as invalid in favor of the choice of giving PWE money?
The game is optional.
Funny how this same silly argument keeps getting brought up even though the hard counter is so obvious.
You might as well ask why play the game. Character progression is the substance of the game. No progression, no game. Which brings us here and people choosing not to play.
Actually, your argument is merely a spin of the OP, which is that the substance of the game is pointless suck. You are just trying to make it sound reasonable.
4000 zpoints is $50. For $50 you can buy more than one brand new game, or several months of sub time in a sub-based game. You can buy a lot more stuff than some pixels in a grindy MMO.
If your stated goal is to make me miserable, doesn't that mean you're just trolling?
Shouldn't you get actioned for it? Will you?
Why do the same people keep saying this in the same voice? The game is optional.
Silly argument is silly. By this logic you must agree with the OP for choosing not to do something optional, no?
PWE has a long habit of doing this and they also spam-edited the Memory Alpha page on the Wells before it appeared in lockboxes.
Find ways to squeeze $$$ from consumers then pretend the community "demanded" worthless kitsch instead of real content.
Personally, I don't get excited about anything new unless I find out that I'll enjoy it, and I'll have access to it either immediately or in a way that's fun for me. It helps that I'm not obsessive about Star Trek lore. For example, I'm fine with the ships that are available to me for free in the game. Gate something behind lobi crystals, STFs, lots of Zen, etc, and I'll just pretend it doesn't exist.
What's this? A 300 dollars for a lifetime sub?
My friend, you make me laugh on so many levels...
But, seriously...
Just have fun with the game. Or don't.
If you don't have fun with the game and the way people play it, pay for it, etc., don't call them "idiots who pay $$$ for pixels"...
You just make fun of yourself this way.
For real.
Use good sense, a sense of humor, and when in doubt re-read the forum rules.
PS. Implied insults are still insults and thinly-veiled hostility is still hostility. There's plenty of that kind of provocation going on from more than one person in this thread and I'm going to ask everyone doing it to stop before it escalates any further. Please sincerely respect other peoples' opinions, politely agree or disagree, and get back on topic, or this thread will be closed and moderation will be meted out accordingly.
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If cryptic ever wants me to spend anything on this game again, then they will have to put its in the c-store. I play the game to have fun, not because I'm broke and/or cheap, I'm not going to grind for dilithium (and I'll never pay for it) or ec for hours and hours to buy stuff.
All the people continuing to foolishly buy key after key is just supporting this behaviour by cryptic
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The forums aren't 'acting weird', the posts were merged because we're not supposed to make multiple threads about the same thing.
The reason that Cryptic can squeeze $$$ from consumers is because the consumers in question are not exercising good judgement. In a consenting transaction, where both parties understand the nature of the transaction, both parties bear responsibility for entering into the transaction.
Let me illustrate with an example - I offer to sell a mouldy potato that I picked up at the side of the road for $1,000,000 on the basis that it looks a bit like Elvis Presley.
If a rich Elvis fan is stupid enough to pay me $1,000,000 for a potato that looks a bit like Elvis, knowing full well that it is a potato that looks a bit like Elvis and has no real value otherwise, do they have any legitimate cause for complaint if they gave me the money of their own free will and choice?
Businesses listen very carefully to their cash registers - if you spend your money while complaining, they have no reason to listen to your complaints or take them seriously, because you have demonstrated by your actions that you are willing to hand over the cash anyway even though both you and them know the price is overinflated. They will proceed to continue to charge what the market will stand, keeping prices inflated until people stop handing over their money.
Only a PWE employee would show concern like that!
These uniforms have always been planned to go into the Lobi store, along with the other Temporal themed items -- they were featured in the original video for the Temporal Lockbox (here) and its description says: Note: The 29th Century Federation Uniform shown in the video, as well as a unique version for the KDF, will be obtainable from the Lobi Store in the near future.
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Yeah, that's a pass from me, I'll wait until they're on the exchange at a reasonable price. I'm not paying $88.88 just to use the uniform on two characters.
What ever happened to the rumored GPL store that would hold costumes and emotes? What happened to throwing costumes into the CStore for unlock for use on all characters? Why all the focus on per-character unlocks? Its beginning to feel like we're being enticed to not have alts.
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I will be getting them
I didn't want to throw it out flat. :P
I don't see any insults. Just guesses as to your motivation. Besides, constructive criticism (wait, people actually do that?) is a lot better than just saying "This game sucks, it's a cash grab, uninstall it and treat it like a computer virus!".
I don't mean to say it's not a cash grab. Everything - or at least almost everything - on this entire planet is a cash grab. Especially computer software. Just deal with it.
As you yourself have said, paying for stuff in this game is optional, and playing it doubly so.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Yes ... You can even sell / buy on the exchange.
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