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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,882 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Cmdr Science
    Lt Cmdr Tac
    Lt Eng
    Lt Tac
    Ens Eng

    There uber enough and would make the recon and science retrofit obsolete in one blow!
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  • dkevadkeva Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    rrincy wrote: »
    it'll be five , not six

    II really was hoping for 6, but with little mention of a new tier of ships with S7, kinda figured T5. Thanks though :)
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Cmdr Science
    Lt Cmdr Tac
    Lt Eng
    Lt Tac
    Ens Eng

    There uber enough and would make the recon and science retrofit obsolete in one blow!

    One thing I really do hope they do is usher in a new BOff layout. All that changes on the new ships is the Lt Cmdr slot. It would be great to see the Cmdr slot possibly changing and the lower tiers remaining standard.
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    the problem with t6 is , that would largely make the t5 stuff obsolete , since it'd have to be a noticeable upgrade to class it as a separate tier entirely
    i suppose if you want to be fussy , you could call the odyssey , fleet ships and lockboxes a pseudo t6
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  • carl103carl103 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well there talking about letting us call in our other owned ships at some future point when we get the new admrial rank. I figure T6 will coincide with that, (probs next season), as it no longer matters if they obsolete T5, we'll stil want to use them. but i'd bet on the oddy/Borteas being the first T6's out.
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited October 2012
    No need to speculate on how beautiful she it, that's for sure. I just finished a photoshoot for the Vesta and was drooling the whole time. The images will be published in an upcoming Dev Blog and I'm really excited for you to see them.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • l3dz3p85l3dz3p85 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I just finished a photoshoot for the Vesta and was drooling the whole time.

    That is a really sad mental picture.
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  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    No need to speculate on how beautiful she it, that's for sure. I just finished a photoshoot for the Vesta and was drooling the whole time. The images will be published in an upcoming Dev Blog and I'm really excited for you to see them.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    most of the speculation is on stats :p
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    i would be shocked if it didn't have the ody/vet ship station setup, the LTC and ENS universal

    COM sci
    LTC uni
    LT tac
    LT eng
    ENS uni
  • caileachcaileach Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I've been saving Zen to get the Vesta, just hope it's 2,500 like most ships. Please don't let it be a three ship thing like the Odyssey and cost 5,000 I can't afford that!
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  • zdfx19zdfx19 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    caileach wrote: »
    I've been saving Zen to get the Vesta, just hope it's 2,500 like most ships. Please don't let it be a three ship thing like the Odyssey and cost 5,000 I can't afford that!

    Some how, I figure it will be 2500 Zen for a base model with 9 console slots akin to the way the Regent was handled. A few months after release there will be a fleet version for 500 Zen more by way of a fleet module that adds 10% hull and shileds with one additional console. Milking ships for all they can anymore...
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    well im not so sure , since geko stated hes been working on three separate and distinct systems for the vesta , im really hoping it isnt a pack , but we'll have to wait and see
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  • caileachcaileach Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    rrincy wrote: »
    well im not so sure , since geko stated hes been working on three separate and distinct systems for the vesta , im really hoping it isnt a pack , but we'll have to wait and see
    That's what I read to and had me worried. Hope it's a misunderstanding, but then again why would it have three systems (consoles)?
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  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    thats what seems to be implied , as the stuff isnt things that are associated with other ships , but mentioned as tech carried by the Aventine in the books
    all speculation , and i really hope it isnt the case ( as id hate myself , but would buy the pack anyway )
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  • caileachcaileach Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    rrincy wrote: »
    thats what seems to be implied , as the stuff isnt things that are associated with other ships , but mentioned as tech carried by the Aventine in the books
    all speculation , and i really hope it isnt the case ( as id hate myself , but would buy the pack anyway )
    Yeah, same here! I've been waiting to long for it just say "ah, forget it"! It will be the first Z-Store ship I ever bought, still flying a Sci-Recon I got when I hit 50.
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  • theindefatigabletheindefatigable Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    caileach wrote: »
    Yeah, same here! I've been waiting to long for it just say "ah, forget it"! It will be the first Z-Store ship I ever bought, still flying a Sci-Recon I got when I hit 50.

    Ah, the Recon Science Vessel...such a fine ship!

    I guess if they do a Vesta "pack," I'll be torn between the situation of NOT wanting to spend $50 on the Vesta and at the same time being excited that they could make the Vesta such a versatile and interesting ship to play as a result of giving it the "Oddy treatment." I guess I'll just have to wait and see. With the Tholian ships and the timeships being science oriented, I feel like I've been playing around a lot lately with these hybrid science/tactical builds (that all don't do the damage of a pure tactical build, though they have niche roles nevertheless), and one more ship filling that same role might be overkill for me. Then again, I imagine the Vesta will be a fairly tough ship...I wonder if they could make her everything her fans want her to be without her being overpowered. Ah well, I'm rambling now, time for bed.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,882 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    zdfx19 wrote: »
    Some how, I figure it will be 2500 Zen for a base model with 9 console slots akin to the way the Regent was handled. A few months after release there will be a fleet version for 500 Zen more by way of a fleet module that adds 10% hull and shileds with one additional console. Milking ships for all they can anymore...

    Well there aren't any c store ships you can buy with 10 consoles short of the the Oddy and Bort, so thats really nothing new. You don't really need to spend zen to get the fleet module and you only need one so its not that hard.
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  • burstdragon323burstdragon323 Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    No need to speculate on how beautiful she it, that's for sure. I just finished a photoshoot for the Vesta and was drooling the whole time. The images will be published in an upcoming Dev Blog and I'm really excited for you to see them.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Can you tell us if it will be a FULL Science Vessel, or one of those god awful SCI-Cruisers?
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    Not long to wait to find out
    geko tweeted the dev blog concerning the vesta will be coming next week
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,882 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    rrincy wrote: »
    Not long to wait to find out
    geko tweeted the dev blog concerning the vesta will be coming next week

    Yeah but it could be on friday with my luck and thats almost a whole nother week!
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  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    well its coming regardless , and said that includes full stats , which is , lets face it , what everyone on this thread wants to know
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  • dkevadkeva Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    The anticipation of this ship is really huge for me. I'm not expecting an "I win" ship, but just hope I'm not let down. :D

    I know the length has been compared to the Sov, but REALLY hope it's given more of the general Sci ship's turn rate....

    Time will tell I guess. Interested to find out if it is a 3 pack, if there is a set bonus, like was done the Oddy.
    /crosses fingers and holds thumbs for visuals :D
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    well we know what it looks like :p
    im just praying its got the lt cmdr tac station it needs to make use of those cannons effectively , or at least it comes in a pack that can give it that

    that said , regardless of what it has ill respec to fit it , this ship is my absolute favorite and i cant wait for it to get in game :D
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  • dkevadkeva Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Agreed!
    It would take something horrid for me to not buy this ship. And I mean like REALLY horrid :)

    Another thing. Technically, if this is a 3pack with the abilities being console based (to make the set with visuals I want :p) shouldn't that mean there will be 10 console slots to make up for the 'loss'??

    I'll hopefully see you ingame with yours....
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    well if if it does indeed have 3 consoles and is a three ship pack like the odyssey ( pure speculation mind i really hope it doesnt , but we'll have to see) then it should have that tenth slot , since thats the whole reason the odyssey and bortas have it
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  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    well i think people will be dissapointed if they want a pure science ship , seeing as its supposed to be a cruiser in the books
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  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    rrincy wrote: »
    well i think people will be dissapointed if they want a pure science ship , seeing as its supposed to be a cruiser in the books

    She was a sci-crusier hybrid ship designed to test out new systems and technology - particlarly an advance slipstream drive.

    Although she is just a few meters shorter than the sov - the turn rate should be significanlty higher as the bulk of the ship is compacted up front - the reason for her long length is the very long sweep back nacelles.
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    very true , theres a few concepts knocking about (some done by the creator ) of the ship with swept forwards nacelle pylons , cuts the length of the ship down drastically

    https://picasaweb.google.com/Clawhammer.Rademaker/MarkRademaker#5664095259208940034
    theres one
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  • carl103carl103 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    The same argument applies to the Sov though, those nacelles protrude a LONG way rearwards.
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited October 2012
    thats true , thats why im betting the turn circle is around the same
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