With all of the fury over the leech rumor (still unsubstantiated) we are probably at some sort of breaking point, at least I hope so. Let's see what the next 1-2 week holds.
Why was no such fury over the other console trading that has been going on. On EVERY lockbox so far there's been a chance for Feds to get KDF consoles and for the KDF to get Fed consoles. A big deal was made over it in the past but it still happenned and contimues to happen. Why the renewed fury? Is the leech console really THAT overpowered? Or maybe it only becomes OP when you take into account that its not balanced with someone speccing into it fully in mind... we know devs balance the game around what they perceive as the "average" player, not the extremes PvP can get to.
Take heart KDF PvPers, once the Feds get it I can pretty much guarantee it'll be properly balanced (nerfed) like all the other consoles so that its a cool gimmick but not really all that useful. Maybe they'll give it a short duration with a 3 min CD.....
Why was no such fury over the other console trading that has been going on. On EVERY lockbox so far there's been a chance for Feds to get KDF consoles and for the KDF to get Fed consoles. A big deal was made over it in the past but it still happenned and contimues to happen. Why the renewed fury? Is the leech console really THAT overpowered? Or maybe it only becomes OP when you take into account that its not balanced with someone speccing into it fully in mind... we know devs balance the game around what they perceive as the "average" player, not the extremes PvP can get to.
Take heart KDF PvPers, once the Feds get it I can pretty much guarantee it'll be properly balanced (nerfed) like all the other consoles so that its a cool gimmick but not really all that useful. Maybe they'll give it a short duration with a 3 min CD.....
No leech console is not that ''overpowered'' just by itself.
But it will be OP if you get it and stack it with MACO shields.
Also its already nerfed to stack from 8x times to 6x times so its only +6power unless fully speced into flow cap and then it gives +12.
You got maco shield that gives +10 power without spenting skill points anywhere!
If you stack maco shield and leech console even the apes at the trees will understand that federation will be having a BIG advantage just by this. Now add into this all the new OP ships with tons of universal boffs and tractor pets and we got a major problem and NO tactical Reason for someone to keep on playing or stick with KDF anymore.
3 min CD on the leech console what else we gone hear.....
So from what you say i understand that you wanna get our leech console and eventually destroy it to keep the game balanced?
What about KDF who will get nerfed for one more time and what about all those dudes that got the console either with RL money? Why do they have to get nerfed again just so Feds gets one more toy that dont rly need and if shared in order to keep balance you gotta totally nerf this toy and ruin all its fun factor?
for me your are so wrong because each time you speak you say the same and the same things without rly read to what we say or understand the situation or prove to what you say with facts and proofs.
You just say and repeat each time the same things like: KDF OP leech console OP ,Feds will get and it will be balanced.
Like a true warrior i dont accept to keep on paying for a ruined faction and keep on paying so federation wins!
I suggest you follow me unless they start showing us some attention and promise us that some of our unique and worthy stuff will remain unique.
Stop paying for KDF gear is one of the worse things the KDF Community can do. It will just prove Cryptic's opinion that the KDF is not worth putting any money into our faction. Yes a lot of us are starting to run out of things to buy, I know I am.
However, if you have seen the thread with the last Dev blog about the Feddie Racing Uniforms, things may be changing, all the Federation players sick of Federation costumes and wanting KDF costumes. It's the best time for us to continue to put the pressure on and in fact increase it and show Cryptic it's worth putting money into our faction.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
Stop paying for KDF gear is one of the worse things the KDF Community can do. It will just prove Cryptic's opinion that the KDF is not worth putting any money into our faction. Yes a lot of us are starting to run out of things to buy, I know I am.
Indeed, on both accords. Hard to throw in more support tho when running dry in options to do so :mad:
Stop paying for KDF gear is one of the worse things the KDF Community can do. It will just prove Cryptic's opinion that the KDF is not worth putting any money into our faction. Yes a lot of us are starting to run out of things to buy, I know I am.
I agree with what you say, but it's sort of a catch 22. Currently, there are a couple ships I was thinking of buying, however, I am holding off for 2 reasons:
I suspect another tier of ships is coming soon. I don't want my purchases to be invalidated after only a short time
I got a feeling deep down, as I think many KDF players do, that cryptic is going to do something to TRIBBLE over the KDF, such as merging us with the Feds. If that happens, this game is dead to me.
I agree with what you say, but it's sort of a catch 22. Currently, there are a couple ships I was thinking of buying, however, I am holding off for 2 reasons:
I suspect another tier of ships is coming soon. I don't want my purchases to be invalidated after only a short time
I got a feeling deep down, as I think many KDF players do, that cryptic is going to do something to TRIBBLE over the KDF, such as merging us with the Feds. If that happens, this game is dead to me.
I hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
You dont realize what will happend if feds get their hands on plasma leech and stack it with MACO shields.
Its worst than merging factions.
This is what is going to kill the game and KDF for me.
You dont realize what will happend if feds get their hands on plasma leech and stack it with MACO shields.
Its worst than merging factions.
This is what is going to kill the game and KDF for me.
Well, each on their own, won't affect my gameplay one way or the other - never used the console, never likely will either. But you're correct in that KDF should retain something unique - but what it needs in uniqueness isn't only equipment and fancydandy costumes.
Until the Dev blog happens that states the Leech is going in a Lock Box or a Dev states in a public forum that they are going to put the Leech in the next Lock Box, it is probablly best to not over react, continue to show our grievance over the idea that it may happen and continue to try to enjoy shooting feds.
If it happens, it happens. We where told when the first consoles came into the game that they would eventually be made availible to both factions.
It may well be the death blow to the KDF since the KDf is so small and under developed as to have little to hold players beyond loyalty and fandom.
Cryptic and PWE have already shown they will pimp what ever they think will make people spend money.
In this I blaim PWE more than Cryptic, as PWE has the experience in pimping impulse items to make quick cash.
In the meantime, kill feds and continue to let Cryptic and PWE know that the KDF needs its growth and to stop having its uniqueness sold off for quick cash.
In the meantime, kill feds and continue to let Cryptic and PWE know that the KDF needs its growth and to stop having its uniqueness sold off for quick cash.
Absolutely, quick cash will be the death of this game. They don't seem to have much foresight to be honest which is sad, for them and for this game.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
One real downside is that the Universal Consoles of the feds are more defensive while ours are more offensive and when the two are swapped the trade seems less than amazing for us.
Unless we get specific consoles that are the few fed offensive ones.
Secondly is the fact that the KDF consoles are not going to be balanced for use with any of the feds non-console, special equipment (like the MACO set or Ablative armor, etc) and they may become to powerful in certain combo's.
The possibility that it will take a while to see such balanced out (and possibly ruining the consoles in question for KDF use since we can not field the fed combo's) and such balance may not happen at all, is my worst fear.
All we can really do is continue our fight for KDF completion and hope that we, as KDF players, have the mettle to survive the changes ahead.
If PWE/Cryptic kills the faction after all our efforts then the blaim lies on thier heads for f'ing up a good game to pander to one side of the fanbase. It will come back to haunt them and like SWgalaxies they will eventually die. Frankly its what I see happening if the STO course remains as it is and only pursues profit by microtransaction without gicing gaming substance.
I would rather not see that happen. I would rather PWE/Cryptic puts forth the resources to finish the KDF to completion, inserts the RSE into STO as its own faction and develops a storyline for all factions to participate in so STO grows in both scope and detail to be a firm entity of MMO sci-fi gaming.
One real downside is that the Universal Consoles of the feds are more defensive while ours are more offensive and when the two are swapped the trade seems less than amazing for us.
Unless we get specific consoles that are the few fed offensive ones.
Secondly is the fact that the KDF consoles are not going to be balanced for use with any of the feds non-console, special equipment (like the MACO set or Ablative armor, etc) and they may become to powerful in certain combo's.
The possibility that it will take a while to see such balanced out (and possibly ruining the consoles in question for KDF use since we can not field the fed combo's) and such balance may not happen at all, is my worst fear.
All we can really do is continue our fight for KDF completion and hope that we, as KDF players, have the mettle to survive the changes ahead.
If PWE/Cryptic kills the faction after all our efforts then the blaim lies on thier heads for f'ing up a good game to pander to one side of the fanbase. It will come back to haunt them and like SWgalaxies they will eventually die. Frankly its what I see happening if the STO course remains as it is and only pursues profit by microtransaction without gicing gaming substance.
I would rather not see that happen. I would rather PWE/Cryptic puts forth the resources to finish the KDF to completion, inserts the RSE into STO as its own faction and develops a storyline for all factions to participate in so STO grows in both scope and detail to be a firm entity of MMO sci-fi gaming.
Thats why i say to give them bio neutral warhead and they give us something defensive in return.
Thats a fair trade that WONT break down balance of the game and factions.
But if plasma leech is shared with feds it def a very bad idea for the game balance(MACO+LEECH=OP) and also it will have an impact to the faction playerbase itself since KDF wont be competitive and worth playing for something unique that is actually worth buying and using ONLY if one faction has it because if both have it, it wont be giving any energy back but if both factions got maco shields energy will still be +10 all across the board.
So thats why plasma leech must remain to KDF side and MACO shields on remain on FED side along with all the new OP ships and pets you gave them and with the OP sci ships they always had!!!
And if they got 2 many defensive consoles and we got more offensive then we can trade bio neutral warhead for something defensive without destroying game balance and KDF faction.
Besides bio neutral warhead is a very very nice mod i have and use myself at my brel torp build and i am telling you its awesome both for pvp and pve and i bet that feds will be very happy with it also.
Now i will calm down ONLY because Roach said it!
And follow hes advice to go kill some feds in order to calm down :P
It may well be the death blow to the KDF since the KDf is so small and under developed as to have little to hold players beyond loyalty and fandom.
This isn't true. Join a good fleet, make some friends there, socialize, and you'll play kdf whatever ship or costume option you have. The STFs/pvp/nukara&defera missions are the same on both side, so basically it may not change your game.
And TBH it will be difficult to give me a more interesting costume option than the HG Mk XII set. This one is amazing.
This isn't true. Join a good fleet, make some friends there, socialize, and you'll play kdf whatever ship or costume option you have. The STFs/pvp/nukara&defera missions are the same on both side, so basically it may not change your game.
And TBH it will be difficult to give me a more interesting costume option than the HG Mk XII set. This one is amazing.
But besides that we gotta keep some tactical tricks in order to be competitive against federation both at pvp and pve
Also play KDF for being a badass klingon and not a explorer federation not rly for the fleet and friends since on any faction i play i make friends.
Its more of a matter of RP tastes.
But no matter how some1 like a ship design or RPing with klingon funny characters and have some nice fun he wont be playing KDF is federation is much more superior than us.
Thats why feds can keep their maco shields and tractor pets and OP ships and tetrylized tetryons and OP sci ships they always had and we must keep our leech console unique!
Thats why i say to give them bio neutral warhead and they give us something defensive in return.
I would hate that more than the Feds getting the leech tbh. I say no sharing consoles/weapons. Some of these items are what attracts some to the faction. I say come up with original ideas rather than sharing unique items. Federation players need to learn they can't have all their eggs in the one basket. They want a bio neural or leech console, then go play the KDF side and stop being a bunch of children wanting all the toys.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
Seriously, this console is possibly one of the worst offenders in the bunch.
On all the time, its a clear no-brainer choice, no effort required other than shooting your opponent for what is something like +16-20 power to all subsystems if you're spec'd into flow caps.
On top of that, it also drains opponents.
Don't get me wrong, I love running this on my Karfi, Guramba, Hegh'ta and Bortasqu - who wouldn't love the equivalent of Emergency Power to Everything 1 that is basically always on?
Bio Neural Warhead...I don't recall a Klingon ship in the Delta stealing it. Yet they have them.
I do not think I've ever seen a Klingon fighter. Seen Fed ones, yet some Demanded the Feds never get a Carrier. It's a staple of Klingon.........Since when??
Targeting sub systems. Feds do it all the time. When a Klingon was ordered to target engines, he blew up the ship. A lucky shot. I do not recall them ever extending shields. When did one ever use a tricorder? So I guess they shouldn't have any of those as they are FED staples.
Get it yet?
The SMALL GROUP of you that are stomping your foot and Demanding to be given more balls while refusing to share the ones you have. Really? You expect the Annoying lock boxes to have a Klingon only Console pack now? That's right up there with Demanding a True science vessel, just with more hull points, 4 forward and aft weapons, and not limited to only beam weapons. Want Six Universal Commander stations while you're at it? Shesh.
Focus on making sure the consoles trades are fair. Not on gimme gimme. Getting more players to support a FULL Klingon faction. Not this horse pucky they are passing off now. Some of this All for us, none for them, or us against them mentality I read turns me off from wanting to even use my Klingon. (Yes, even more then the poor state of affairs the faction is STILL in)
Why am I posting here? Just gonna repeat the same stuff I have posted in carrier threads, Fed cloak threads, Fed battle cloak threads, Fed Orion costume threads, universal BO stations on all Fed ships threads, Fed BoP threads, Fed "Klingons are OP in PvP and do too much damage" threads... on and on ad nauseum.
I sincerely hope that Feds won't have universal BO stations ships. That would be quite a TRIBBLE decision from PWE
Grinding for MkIV epic gear?
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Bio Neural Warhead...I don't recall a Klingon ship in the Delta stealing it. Yet they have them.
I do not think I've ever seen a Klingon fighter. Seen Fed ones, yet some Demanded the Feds never get a Carrier. It's a staple of Klingon.........Since when??
Targeting sub systems. Feds do it all the time. When a Klingon was ordered to target engines, he blew up the ship. A lucky shot. I do not recall them ever extending shields. When did one ever use a tricorder? So I guess they shouldn't have any of those as they are FED staples.
Get it yet?
The SMALL GROUP of you that are stomping your foot and Demanding to be given more balls while refusing to share the ones you have. Really? You expect the Annoying lock boxes to have a Klingon only Console pack now? That's right up there with Demanding a True science vessel, just with more hull points, 4 forward and aft weapons, and not limited to only beam weapons. Want Six Universal Commander stations while you're at it? Shesh.
Focus on making sure the consoles trades are fair. Not on gimme gimme. Getting more players to support a FULL Klingon faction. Not this horse pucky they are passing off now. Some of this All for us, none for them, or us against them mentality I read turns me off from wanting to even use my Klingon. (Yes, even more then the poor state of affairs the faction is STILL in)
There is at least one fallacy in this argument.
Edited to add:
I'll deal with at least two when I get home from work. Unless someone beats me to the punch that is.
If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
assuming anyone wants to make some dumb joke about their performance or anything.
The second gunner that Kruge used in Star Trek 3, managed to Target Subsystem Engines correctly so kilemorgan intentionally ignored that fact since he/she obviously saw the third film.
Not to mention the gunner managed to do that with a torpedo which is probably a whole lot more of a challenge than using a beam.
Focus on making sure the consoles trades are fair. Not on gimme gimme. Getting more players to support a FULL Klingon faction. Not this horse pucky they are passing off now. Some of this All for us, none for them, or us against them mentality I read turns me off from wanting to even use my Klingon. (Yes, even more then the poor state of affairs the faction is STILL in)
Yes, there is only the one good argument for not allowing a lock box trade of the plasmonic leech console, and that can be addressed by making it and the maco shield mutually exclusive.
If Cryptic adds the Plasmonic Leech Console to a lock box then people will think that box is less of a ripoff and there will be some who spend 20 or 30 dollars on lock box keys just to get it. It's a cost effective no-brainer as far as the business goes and so it will happen. Still, that doesn't mean we shouldn't get some enjoyment out of watching certain KDF posters wax on philosophic about how the developers have taken everything from the KDF. They won't mention who gave everything to the KDF to begin with of course.
assuming anyone wants to make some dumb joke about their performance or anything.
The second gunner that Kruge used in Star Trek 3, managed to Target Subsystem Engines correctly so kilemorgan intentionally ignored that fact since he/she obviously saw the third film.
Not to mention the gunner managed to do that with a torpedo which is probably a whole lot more of a challenge than using a beam.
I think you missed the point of his "True Science vessel but with more hull, 4/4 weapons, and not limited to beams" hypothetical.
I read it as being disgusted by the idea that Klingons should get, not just a service-able science vessel, but that it should be more 'warlike' in ways that make it better overall.
It will probably end in lockbock sooner or later. KDF will get AMS, while feds leech. But KDF players should be probably happy. As they get better consoles in lockboxes considerably cheaper than feds paying zens for it.
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Why was no such fury over the other console trading that has been going on. On EVERY lockbox so far there's been a chance for Feds to get KDF consoles and for the KDF to get Fed consoles. A big deal was made over it in the past but it still happenned and contimues to happen. Why the renewed fury? Is the leech console really THAT overpowered? Or maybe it only becomes OP when you take into account that its not balanced with someone speccing into it fully in mind... we know devs balance the game around what they perceive as the "average" player, not the extremes PvP can get to.
Take heart KDF PvPers, once the Feds get it I can pretty much guarantee it'll be properly balanced (nerfed) like all the other consoles so that its a cool gimmick but not really all that useful. Maybe they'll give it a short duration with a 3 min CD.....
No leech console is not that ''overpowered'' just by itself.
But it will be OP if you get it and stack it with MACO shields.
Also its already nerfed to stack from 8x times to 6x times so its only +6power unless fully speced into flow cap and then it gives +12.
You got maco shield that gives +10 power without spenting skill points anywhere!
If you stack maco shield and leech console even the apes at the trees will understand that federation will be having a BIG advantage just by this. Now add into this all the new OP ships with tons of universal boffs and tractor pets and we got a major problem and NO tactical Reason for someone to keep on playing or stick with KDF anymore.
3 min CD on the leech console what else we gone hear.....
So from what you say i understand that you wanna get our leech console and eventually destroy it to keep the game balanced?
What about KDF who will get nerfed for one more time and what about all those dudes that got the console either with RL money? Why do they have to get nerfed again just so Feds gets one more toy that dont rly need and if shared in order to keep balance you gotta totally nerf this toy and ruin all its fun factor?
for me your are so wrong because each time you speak you say the same and the same things without rly read to what we say or understand the situation or prove to what you say with facts and proofs.
You just say and repeat each time the same things like: KDF OP leech console OP ,Feds will get and it will be balanced.
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Hopefully not... at least something as quality buffer :cool:
Okay... I tho bought the game from Cryptic directly, not thro Steam (it wasn't in Steam back then anyway -or was it? IDK).
Roach this is not time for jokes mate.
Like a true warrior i dont accept to keep on paying for a ruined faction and keep on paying so federation wins!
I suggest you follow me unless they start showing us some attention and promise us that some of our unique and worthy stuff will remain unique.
Stop paying for KDF gear is one of the worse things the KDF Community can do. It will just prove Cryptic's opinion that the KDF is not worth putting any money into our faction. Yes a lot of us are starting to run out of things to buy, I know I am.
However, if you have seen the thread with the last Dev blog about the Feddie Racing Uniforms, things may be changing, all the Federation players sick of Federation costumes and wanting KDF costumes. It's the best time for us to continue to put the pressure on and in fact increase it and show Cryptic it's worth putting money into our faction.
Indeed, on both accords. Hard to throw in more support tho when running dry in options to do so :mad:
I agree with what you say, but it's sort of a catch 22. Currently, there are a couple ships I was thinking of buying, however, I am holding off for 2 reasons:
I suspect another tier of ships is coming soon. I don't want my purchases to be invalidated after only a short time
I got a feeling deep down, as I think many KDF players do, that cryptic is going to do something to TRIBBLE over the KDF, such as merging us with the Feds. If that happens, this game is dead to me.
I hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpfbJLLbczs
You dont realize what will happend if feds get their hands on plasma leech and stack it with MACO shields.
Its worst than merging factions.
This is what is going to kill the game and KDF for me.
Who's joking? Temper your anger by shooting feds in the ques and Ker'rat. Its free to do so.
R.I.P
Roach you came just in time to ''calm'' me down by saying those tree simple words.
Free, shooting, feds.
Its like a sweat dream that you never wanna end......xD
That could possibly do it for me as well. This game is walking on a tightrope as far as I am concerned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpfbJLLbczs
Well, each on their own, won't affect my gameplay one way or the other - never used the console, never likely will either. But you're correct in that KDF should retain something unique - but what it needs in uniqueness isn't only equipment and fancydandy costumes.
If it happens, it happens. We where told when the first consoles came into the game that they would eventually be made availible to both factions.
It may well be the death blow to the KDF since the KDf is so small and under developed as to have little to hold players beyond loyalty and fandom.
Cryptic and PWE have already shown they will pimp what ever they think will make people spend money.
In this I blaim PWE more than Cryptic, as PWE has the experience in pimping impulse items to make quick cash.
In the meantime, kill feds and continue to let Cryptic and PWE know that the KDF needs its growth and to stop having its uniqueness sold off for quick cash.
R.I.P
Dude, stop trolling.
Absolutely, quick cash will be the death of this game. They don't seem to have much foresight to be honest which is sad, for them and for this game.
Unless we get specific consoles that are the few fed offensive ones.
Secondly is the fact that the KDF consoles are not going to be balanced for use with any of the feds non-console, special equipment (like the MACO set or Ablative armor, etc) and they may become to powerful in certain combo's.
The possibility that it will take a while to see such balanced out (and possibly ruining the consoles in question for KDF use since we can not field the fed combo's) and such balance may not happen at all, is my worst fear.
All we can really do is continue our fight for KDF completion and hope that we, as KDF players, have the mettle to survive the changes ahead.
If PWE/Cryptic kills the faction after all our efforts then the blaim lies on thier heads for f'ing up a good game to pander to one side of the fanbase. It will come back to haunt them and like SWgalaxies they will eventually die. Frankly its what I see happening if the STO course remains as it is and only pursues profit by microtransaction without gicing gaming substance.
I would rather not see that happen. I would rather PWE/Cryptic puts forth the resources to finish the KDF to completion, inserts the RSE into STO as its own faction and develops a storyline for all factions to participate in so STO grows in both scope and detail to be a firm entity of MMO sci-fi gaming.
R.I.P
Thats why i say to give them bio neutral warhead and they give us something defensive in return.
Thats a fair trade that WONT break down balance of the game and factions.
But if plasma leech is shared with feds it def a very bad idea for the game balance(MACO+LEECH=OP) and also it will have an impact to the faction playerbase itself since KDF wont be competitive and worth playing for something unique that is actually worth buying and using ONLY if one faction has it because if both have it, it wont be giving any energy back but if both factions got maco shields energy will still be +10 all across the board.
So thats why plasma leech must remain to KDF side and MACO shields on remain on FED side along with all the new OP ships and pets you gave them and with the OP sci ships they always had!!!
And if they got 2 many defensive consoles and we got more offensive then we can trade bio neutral warhead for something defensive without destroying game balance and KDF faction.
Besides bio neutral warhead is a very very nice mod i have and use myself at my brel torp build and i am telling you its awesome both for pvp and pve and i bet that feds will be very happy with it also.
Now i will calm down ONLY because Roach said it!
And follow hes advice to go kill some feds in order to calm down :P
Don't do becuase I say so.
Do it becuase its FUN!! :P
R.I.P
This isn't true. Join a good fleet, make some friends there, socialize, and you'll play kdf whatever ship or costume option you have. The STFs/pvp/nukara&defera missions are the same on both side, so basically it may not change your game.
And TBH it will be difficult to give me a more interesting costume option than the HG Mk XII set. This one is amazing.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
But besides that we gotta keep some tactical tricks in order to be competitive against federation both at pvp and pve
Also play KDF for being a badass klingon and not a explorer federation not rly for the fleet and friends since on any faction i play i make friends.
Its more of a matter of RP tastes.
But no matter how some1 like a ship design or RPing with klingon funny characters and have some nice fun he wont be playing KDF is federation is much more superior than us.
Thats why feds can keep their maco shields and tractor pets and OP ships and tetrylized tetryons and OP sci ships they always had and we must keep our leech console unique!
I would hate that more than the Feds getting the leech tbh. I say no sharing consoles/weapons. Some of these items are what attracts some to the faction. I say come up with original ideas rather than sharing unique items. Federation players need to learn they can't have all their eggs in the one basket. They want a bio neural or leech console, then go play the KDF side and stop being a bunch of children wanting all the toys.
I fixed that for you.
Seriously, this console is possibly one of the worst offenders in the bunch.
On all the time, its a clear no-brainer choice, no effort required other than shooting your opponent for what is something like +16-20 power to all subsystems if you're spec'd into flow caps.
On top of that, it also drains opponents.
Don't get me wrong, I love running this on my Karfi, Guramba, Hegh'ta and Bortasqu - who wouldn't love the equivalent of Emergency Power to Everything 1 that is basically always on?
I do not think I've ever seen a Klingon fighter. Seen Fed ones, yet some Demanded the Feds never get a Carrier. It's a staple of Klingon.........Since when??
Targeting sub systems. Feds do it all the time. When a Klingon was ordered to target engines, he blew up the ship. A lucky shot. I do not recall them ever extending shields. When did one ever use a tricorder? So I guess they shouldn't have any of those as they are FED staples.
Get it yet?
The SMALL GROUP of you that are stomping your foot and Demanding to be given more balls while refusing to share the ones you have. Really? You expect the Annoying lock boxes to have a Klingon only Console pack now? That's right up there with Demanding a True science vessel, just with more hull points, 4 forward and aft weapons, and not limited to only beam weapons. Want Six Universal Commander stations while you're at it? Shesh.
Focus on making sure the consoles trades are fair. Not on gimme gimme. Getting more players to support a FULL Klingon faction. Not this horse pucky they are passing off now. Some of this All for us, none for them, or us against them mentality I read turns me off from wanting to even use my Klingon. (Yes, even more then the poor state of affairs the faction is STILL in)
I sincerely hope that Feds won't have universal BO stations ships. That would be quite a TRIBBLE decision from PWE
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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There is at least one fallacy in this argument.
Edited to add:
I'll deal with at least two when I get home from work. Unless someone beats me to the punch that is.
Klingon Tricorder in Star Trek 3:
http://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/default/4d7ac10870446/Klingon-Tricorder.jpg
We can also see Uhura and Chekov using a Klingon Tricorder in Star Trek 4:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2316/vlcsnap2011073115h07m07.png
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2940/vlcsnap2011073115h25m33.png
assuming anyone wants to make some dumb joke about their performance or anything.
The second gunner that Kruge used in Star Trek 3, managed to Target Subsystem Engines correctly so kilemorgan intentionally ignored that fact since he/she obviously saw the third film.
Not to mention the gunner managed to do that with a torpedo which is probably a whole lot more of a challenge than using a beam.
Yes, there is only the one good argument for not allowing a lock box trade of the plasmonic leech console, and that can be addressed by making it and the maco shield mutually exclusive.
If Cryptic adds the Plasmonic Leech Console to a lock box then people will think that box is less of a ripoff and there will be some who spend 20 or 30 dollars on lock box keys just to get it. It's a cost effective no-brainer as far as the business goes and so it will happen. Still, that doesn't mean we shouldn't get some enjoyment out of watching certain KDF posters wax on philosophic about how the developers have taken everything from the KDF. They won't mention who gave everything to the KDF to begin with of course.
I think you missed the point of his "True Science vessel but with more hull, 4/4 weapons, and not limited to beams" hypothetical.
I read it as being disgusted by the idea that Klingons should get, not just a service-able science vessel, but that it should be more 'warlike' in ways that make it better overall.