How about they try the "Vote" option and we see which way works better. They can see if there are more people AFKing or more people "abusing" the vote button. Then go with the better option. Also, consider me one of the people who cannot understand defending AFKers in any way.
I call player that do not Participate, AFkers, and I call Leeches, players who join Elite STFs and run wild agroing everything and have no clue as to how the mission works and spends more time dying than playing.
There is noting that can be done about this. Some may be playing the mission for the first time. Some may just be trying things out and learning. The only solution to happiness
is get a private group going. Pug groups in any game can be fun but don't expect
much. Can Cryptic make that more enjoyable? Sure they can. I think most people
have already figured out it's how to go about it. Is it a problem. Yes.
Does it need some sort of action....yes. For now though there's nothing anyone
can do so until then post your solutions. Stop the insulting of one another and
get a private group. Post your solution and let it go from there. It's unlikely
Cryptic is ignoring anything. They just haven't got a response that would satisfactorily
limit the problem. I've been in this since beta and things take time but I can assure
you it's not being ignored. They've fixed a lot of things in this game that I had that
were pages long grievances. Please work together stop the insults. Just post
your solution and again get a private group but it's perfectly ok to submit a complaint
on the alleged offender. Stop this hocus pocus nonsense of trying to interpret the EULA
and TOS. Cryptic is the only one that will determine what is against it or not.
And officially they've made no response but stop the mud slinging guys and gals.
You'll never get their attention this way.
I'm going back to playing but I advise listening if you want anything done about it.
IT has been so long since I've been in the forum my title is missing.....they must have upgraded
long ago.....lol.
Here it is. If you can handle eSTFs and are tired of getting screwed out of the optionals by the trolls/AFKers/leeches, join the channel PublicEliteSTF, and stop posting threads asking the devs to police the community when we are clearly capable of policing ourselves. That is all.
the problem with the public channels is the AFKers arent really afk, they can join those too.
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Well, I've heard the public channel isn't much better than pugging most of the time. The private channel is where its at, never had a bad run there. Its all business all the time, and people know what's up. Never seen any afkers in those runs.
the only real fix is to remove CDs so to let players play the missions they want to.
i personally only like to play CSE.. but can only do so once an hour.
sure ill run ISE and KSE but i wont be into it 100%.. those missions are getting boring for me.
for getting fleet marks i only like fleet alert.. but if i complete it i get a 30 minute CD..
i do not like the defense one or the no win one.. so i drop out of fleet alert at the end.. as soon as they put in a CD for that i will probably be afk on the other 2.
getting fleet marks is a chore i dont care for.
they really need to add some fleet marks on every single mission.. even the EP missions.. i enjoy those but the XP isnt really needed nor the junk items once you get to level 50.
limiting people to the same 2 or 3 missions to get the marks they need is what is causing AFKers..
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Not everyone is social and wants to spend time getting a team together for each and every mission. Some people just want to quickly start playing.
Ultimate solution is to allow players to flag others as leechers and if the person that is flagged as a leecher does not engage in combat after a few min they are booted. No rewards from things that someone did not help destroy/kill that means no loot and no expertise/experience points.
Even in private matches their are still times that someone leeches. Yes it is more rare but it does happen once in a wile.
Not everyone is social and wants to spend time getting a team together for each and every mission. Some people just want to quickly start playing.
Ultimate solution is to allow players to flag others as leechers and if the person that is flagged as a leecher does not engage in combat after a few min they are booted. No rewards from things that someone did not help destroy/kill that means no loot and no expertise/experience points.
Even in private matches their are still times that someone leeches. Yes it is more rare but it does happen once in a wile.
sounds great, but what are they going to do with the lag and the long loading screens?
i have queued up a ISE once and the loading screen took so long that by the time i actually got in there they had already blown up the first transformer.
during this time, you just sit there in game. people thought i was afk and sent me lots of pms.. most were not nice.. and against the TOS.. which i did report.
instead of the AFKers being banned, the people who pm them could be..
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i really dont think the leeching would be that bad if they removed CDs and leavers penalties.
by having a 1 hr CD they are forcing is to play missions we dont want to play.
in doing so, people just queue up and let others do the work.
when you cant leave, you have no choice but to finish the mission for them..
yes you can fail it, but in the end everyone loses.
The CD is in place so people just don't up and leave you hanging, it also cuts down on how often someone can constantly repeat a mission, and continue leeching it. If you suspect leechers simply wait till 15mins from the start of the mission has expired and leave.....Look no penalty, it's a fail safe just for that problem, but a lot of people would sooner complete it and keep feeding into the leecher's gains. I for one will not feed a leecher, and if it bothers others because I'm not contributing while I wait for my time to expire even when they are warned of someone leeching well oh well. If you want to help them by feeding them rewards that is your choice, as for me I will not contribute at all. Call me what you will, but that is how it is.
sounds great, but what are they going to do with the lag and the long loading screens?
i have queued up a ISE once and the loading screen took so long that by the time i actually got in there they had already blown up the first transformer.
during this time, you just sit there in game. people thought i was afk and sent me lots of pms.. most were not nice.. and against the TOS.. which i did report.
instead of the AFKers being banned, the people who pm them could be..
From what you have posted in the other thread you yourself tend to afk/leech off others, because you find the grind of doing these missions boring. If you are clicking need/greed/pass on loot without moving or contributing to the effort of completing the mission, than you are most definitely leeching and not really afk or waiting for game loading. I see TRIBBLE like this all the time, and it is very easy to tell which are truly afk and the ones who are simply leeching.
It doesn't take me very long to get a team together on PublicEliteSTF, and I haven't found a mission yet, and only missed an optional once. The great thing about that channel, is that it's smaller, which means word gets around faster, so if I put a team together, which usually doesn't take long, and everyone is saying player x is a leecher, then I will kick him. Sure it takes a little longer to get a group together, but not much longer, and this way, I have a better chance of catching a leech. In a PUG, I have no chance, plus I can't talk to the other team members before the match starts.
The Ultimate Solution to afking in Elite STFs is to have the game monitor each player's activity. If certain activities are encounter like flying in a circle and not attacking or just attacking the gate or they don't meet the minimum activity threshold, then 0 Omega Marks or 5 Omega Marks for that player. I don't know of anyone that would afk 12 Elite STFs to get the same value as actively playing in one Elite STF. They would either find other content to afk or actually play the game.
STO just needs to link your ignore list to party matching. if a player is on your ignore list then you will not be partied with them. in time those people will find that they can not get parties and will have to participate just as the game was designed. its a standard practice in other mmo's and it works just fine and itll work just fine in sto.
STO just needs to link your ignore list to party matching. if a player is on your ignore list then you will not be partied with them. in time those people will find that they can not get parties and will have to participate just as the game was designed. its a standard practice in other mmo's and it works just fine and itll work just fine in sto.
In theory the feature is excellent. In Cryptic's implementation of said feature the entire queue system will be fubar.
since win 95, if you believe it is a leech/afk, or one is trolling, report player behavior, add to ignore, and finish the stf, if that person's IQ is that low, they don't "deserve" to speak to you, but if they can ascend to the IQ of let's say a raccoon or a dog, then there MIGHT be hope for that kind of person to learn to remember something like breathing or how to eat, or perhaps letting nature take it's course might be for the best ... lol
In theory the feature is excellent. In Cryptic's implementation of said feature the entire queue system will be fubar.
Why do I have the feeling that you are 100% correct. that if they went ahead and implemented this feature somehow the good players would get screwed over
From what you have posted in the other thread you yourself tend to afk/leech off others, because you find the grind of doing these missions boring. If you are clicking need/greed/pass on loot without moving or contributing to the effort of completing the mission, than you are most definitely leeching and not really afk or waiting for game loading. I see TRIBBLE like this all the time, and it is very easy to tell which are truly afk and the ones who are simply leeching.
i never leech, i do leave early tho in fleet alert.. that last 5 fm is not worth the 30 min cd.
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This whole thing reminds me of an issue with Dungeons & Dragons Online. In short, players were getting deluged with PM's & E-Mails from spammers.
Now this went on for some time, and finally the devs decided that trial accounts (where most of the spam was thought to come from) would have limited and complicated access to send PM's/Messages, etc.
Now several people recommended what sounded like an excellent idea...allow individual players the option to ONLY receive PM's/E-Mail from friends or guild members. It seemed like a no brainier, but of course that never happened.
Just like this issue, several people have had excellent ideas for addressing the problem, but of course Cryptic like Turbine seems incapable of communicating about or even acknowledging the issue.
i never leech, i do leave early tho in fleet alert.. that last 5 fm is not worth the 30 min cd.
the only real fix is to remove CDs so to let players play the missions they want to.
i personally only like to play CSE.. but can only do so once an hour.
sure ill run ISE and KSE but i wont be into it 100%.. those missions are getting boring for me.
for getting fleet marks i only like fleet alert.. but if i complete it i get a 30 minute CD..
i do not like the defense one or the no win one.. so i drop out of fleet alert at the end.. as soon as they put in a CD for that i will probably be afk on the other 2.
getting fleet marks is a chore i dont care for.
they really need to add some fleet marks on every single mission.. even the EP missions.. i enjoy those but the XP isnt really needed nor the junk items once you get to level 50.
limiting people to the same 2 or 3 missions to get the marks they need is what is causing AFKers..
I regurarly meet morons in MMOs, but this guy should be the king of them.
ISE went wrong - maybe some of the team members wasn't experienced enough or just lacked of proper equipment. The first cube and the two spheres went down slowly and we also failed the bonus objective at the first nanite transformer - nanite spheres started to heal the transformer.
This guy went mad: "Reported the whole team because of failing the secondary objective" - said something like this on team chat.
And he also flew away from the battle, started leeching.
After we killed the first transformer and we went to the second transformer I typed "Maybe you should help us".
"No, I enjoy that you are starting to play right" - he said something like this and continued leeching.
When we finished the second transformer I typed: "ok guys, don't forget report him for leeching".
A few minutes later (he was far away from the battle) he joined the team again to kill the gate and the tac cube. And said: "I'm not leeching I'm teaching you how to do it properly". And he had also time to write me a private message like this:
"And I report you because of false report on me".
I said "You started leeching after the bonus failed but u instantly joined the battle when I told the team to report you."
He finished some childish threat about he recorded the battle and if I say anything then he will bann me or something - I don't even care to remember it.
I really don't understand these people.
1., this is a god forsaken GAME.
2., Yes, sometimes I'm also annoyed with pugs. But I never ever called my teammates noobs or said anything negative. If I'm in the right mood and I have time to type in the middle of the battle sometimes I try to explain the right tactic, or just say "do this / don't do this" to save the game.
3. this is only a GAME.
4. I don't understand WHY these people do these stuff: the match will be much-much longer without their proper participation. And this particular "gentleman" wasn't AFK - he just watched the game from a distance. Ruining 4 other people's entertainment is just fun for him or what?
Phew... sorry guys for this post but I just had to blow off the steam.
First sign of childish attitude, I block the individual. After they have shown the inability to play nice with others, there's nothing else I need to hear from them. I'm not going to tell you "don't pug", I promise.
First sign of childish attitude, I block the individual. After they have shown the inability to play nice with others, there's nothing else I need to hear from them. I'm not going to tell you "don't pug", I promise.
It would be nice if ignoring somebody could block teaming up with him again. There is such a feature in SWTOR.
Maybe I'm lucky but I very rarely find somebody like this player in pugs. Maybe this is the reason why I'm shocked now
A "perfect" match with just good players would be boring after a time... With my main character I enjoy the extra challange of inexperienced players (ok, I know, maybe I should visit a doctor ); and if the pug is actually good then I enjoy the pleasent surprise.
So beginners (and I'll not call them noobs because I hate this word) are not a concern for me. Maybe I'm annoyed for a few minutes but I forget this very quickly. I'm concerned about these childish attitudes.
I regurarly meet morons in MMOs, but this guy should be the king of them.
ISE went wrong - maybe some of the team members wasn't experienced enough or just lacked of proper equipment. The first cube and the two spheres went down slowly and we also failed the bonus objective at the first nanite transformer - nanite spheres started to heal the transformer.
This guy went mad: "Reported the whole team because of failing the secondary objective" - said something like this on team chat.
And he also flew away from the battle, started leeching.
After we killed the first transformer and we went to the second transformer I typed "Maybe you should help us".
"No, I enjoy that you are starting to play right" - he said something like this and continued leeching.
When we finished the second transformer I typed: "ok guys, don't forget report him for leeching".
A few minutes later (he was far away from the battle) he joined the team again to kill the gate and the tac cube. And said: "I'm not leeching I'm teaching you how to do it properly". And he had also time to write me a private message like this:
"And I report you because of false report on me".
I said "You started leeching after the bonus failed but u instantly joined the battle when I told the team to report you."
He finished some childish threat about he recorded the battle and if I say anything then he will bann me or something - I don't even care to remember it.
I really don't understand these people.
1., this is a god forsaken GAME.
2., Yes, sometimes I'm also annoyed with pugs. But I never ever called my teammates noobs or said anything negative. If I'm in the right mood and I have time to type in the middle of the battle sometimes I try to explain the right tactic, or just say "do this / don't do this" to save the game.
3. this is only a GAME.
4. I don't understand WHY these people do these stuff: the match will be much-much longer without their proper participation. And this particular "gentleman" wasn't AFK - he just watched the game from a distance. Ruining 4 other people's entertainment is just fun for him or what?
Phew... sorry guys for this post but I just had to blow off the steam.
you know to be honest you were the one doing wrong.
it is NOT against the TOS to sit idle during a mission..
it IS however against the TOS to slader someone in chat.. calling him a leech might have gotten you banned if he did report you.
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This guy went mad: "Reported the whole team because of failing the secondary objective" - said something like this on team chat.
This obviously states the guy is a damn imbecile. At this point I would have ignored him straight away.
Also, the second I would have noticed anyone is leechin... POOF... I'm gone... no one's gettin free rides on my back. Not even partial free rides. End of story. Theres plenty of afkr's out there and one of the reasons they exist is that they are encouraged by the other players indulgent benevolence.
I've ragequit a few times when people have been especially stupid (way beyond failing the optional, like beat-your-head-on-your-desk stupid), but reporting people then deliberately idling (and still using up your time in the process?). Thats.......special.
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Join a bigger fleet , make your fleet bigger and then only run the STFs with fleets members.
If you don't like this solution then there's nobody to blame but yourself.
Or you can just do the hard thing.
If you can hurt your enemy simply by inconveniencing yourself then do it.
The right move isn't always the easiest or even the one you want.
For those who PUG, you've got to make the hard choice.
DO you continue the run and reward Johnny Leech-a-lot or do you take the cooldown and do something else, keeping him from getting his unearned reward?
There is noting that can be done about this. Some may be playing the mission for the first time. Some may just be trying things out and learning. The only solution to happiness
is get a private group going. Pug groups in any game can be fun but don't expect
much. Can Cryptic make that more enjoyable? Sure they can. I think most people
have already figured out it's how to go about it. Is it a problem. Yes.
Does it need some sort of action....yes. For now though there's nothing anyone
can do so until then post your solutions. Stop the insulting of one another and
get a private group. Post your solution and let it go from there. It's unlikely
Cryptic is ignoring anything. They just haven't got a response that would satisfactorily
limit the problem. I've been in this since beta and things take time but I can assure
you it's not being ignored. They've fixed a lot of things in this game that I had that
were pages long grievances. Please work together stop the insults. Just post
your solution and again get a private group but it's perfectly ok to submit a complaint
on the alleged offender. Stop this hocus pocus nonsense of trying to interpret the EULA
and TOS. Cryptic is the only one that will determine what is against it or not.
And officially they've made no response but stop the mud slinging guys and gals.
You'll never get their attention this way.
I'm going back to playing but I advise listening if you want anything done about it.
IT has been so long since I've been in the forum my title is missing.....they must have upgraded
long ago.....lol.
Rest in Peace Brothers
But what is to stop some lowish life to join eSTF channel and I do not know ... but they could ...
TROLL?
Apart from the fact of the un-needed talk from people (like in ESD ... ), that can easily happen!
So I try not to join any new and unnecessary channels, thank you!
I hope STO get's better ...
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Kalek shel'tek!
"Do not make me look foolish by allowing yourself to be murdered" -Lord Yu
i personally only like to play CSE.. but can only do so once an hour.
sure ill run ISE and KSE but i wont be into it 100%.. those missions are getting boring for me.
for getting fleet marks i only like fleet alert.. but if i complete it i get a 30 minute CD..
i do not like the defense one or the no win one.. so i drop out of fleet alert at the end.. as soon as they put in a CD for that i will probably be afk on the other 2.
getting fleet marks is a chore i dont care for.
they really need to add some fleet marks on every single mission.. even the EP missions.. i enjoy those but the XP isnt really needed nor the junk items once you get to level 50.
limiting people to the same 2 or 3 missions to get the marks they need is what is causing AFKers..
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Ultimate solution is to allow players to flag others as leechers and if the person that is flagged as a leecher does not engage in combat after a few min they are booted. No rewards from things that someone did not help destroy/kill that means no loot and no expertise/experience points.
Even in private matches their are still times that someone leeches. Yes it is more rare but it does happen once in a wile.
sounds great, but what are they going to do with the lag and the long loading screens?
i have queued up a ISE once and the loading screen took so long that by the time i actually got in there they had already blown up the first transformer.
during this time, you just sit there in game. people thought i was afk and sent me lots of pms.. most were not nice.. and against the TOS.. which i did report.
instead of the AFKers being banned, the people who pm them could be..
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The CD is in place so people just don't up and leave you hanging, it also cuts down on how often someone can constantly repeat a mission, and continue leeching it. If you suspect leechers simply wait till 15mins from the start of the mission has expired and leave.....Look no penalty, it's a fail safe just for that problem, but a lot of people would sooner complete it and keep feeding into the leecher's gains. I for one will not feed a leecher, and if it bothers others because I'm not contributing while I wait for my time to expire even when they are warned of someone leeching well oh well. If you want to help them by feeding them rewards that is your choice, as for me I will not contribute at all. Call me what you will, but that is how it is.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
From what you have posted in the other thread you yourself tend to afk/leech off others, because you find the grind of doing these missions boring. If you are clicking need/greed/pass on loot without moving or contributing to the effort of completing the mission, than you are most definitely leeching and not really afk or waiting for game loading. I see TRIBBLE like this all the time, and it is very easy to tell which are truly afk and the ones who are simply leeching.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Rest in Peace Brothers
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=11702141&postcount=45
STO just needs to link your ignore list to party matching. if a player is on your ignore list then you will not be partied with them. in time those people will find that they can not get parties and will have to participate just as the game was designed. its a standard practice in other mmo's and it works just fine and itll work just fine in sto.
In theory the feature is excellent. In Cryptic's implementation of said feature the entire queue system will be fubar.
take care and good luck
Why do I have the feeling that you are 100% correct. that if they went ahead and implemented this feature somehow the good players would get screwed over
i never leech, i do leave early tho in fleet alert.. that last 5 fm is not worth the 30 min cd.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
Now this went on for some time, and finally the devs decided that trial accounts (where most of the spam was thought to come from) would have limited and complicated access to send PM's/Messages, etc.
Now several people recommended what sounded like an excellent idea...allow individual players the option to ONLY receive PM's/E-Mail from friends or guild members. It seemed like a no brainier, but of course that never happened.
Just like this issue, several people have had excellent ideas for addressing the problem, but of course Cryptic like Turbine seems incapable of communicating about or even acknowledging the issue.
the only real fix is to remove CDs so to let players play the missions they want to.
i personally only like to play CSE.. but can only do so once an hour.
sure ill run ISE and KSE but i wont be into it 100%.. those missions are getting boring for me.
for getting fleet marks i only like fleet alert.. but if i complete it i get a 30 minute CD..
i do not like the defense one or the no win one.. so i drop out of fleet alert at the end.. as soon as they put in a CD for that i will probably be afk on the other 2.
getting fleet marks is a chore i dont care for.
they really need to add some fleet marks on every single mission.. even the EP missions.. i enjoy those but the XP isnt really needed nor the junk items once you get to level 50.
limiting people to the same 2 or 3 missions to get the marks they need is what is causing AFKers..
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=814101&page=6
Look familiar?
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
ISE went wrong - maybe some of the team members wasn't experienced enough or just lacked of proper equipment. The first cube and the two spheres went down slowly and we also failed the bonus objective at the first nanite transformer - nanite spheres started to heal the transformer.
This guy went mad: "Reported the whole team because of failing the secondary objective" - said something like this on team chat.
And he also flew away from the battle, started leeching.
After we killed the first transformer and we went to the second transformer I typed "Maybe you should help us".
"No, I enjoy that you are starting to play right" - he said something like this and continued leeching.
When we finished the second transformer I typed: "ok guys, don't forget report him for leeching".
A few minutes later (he was far away from the battle) he joined the team again to kill the gate and the tac cube. And said: "I'm not leeching I'm teaching you how to do it properly". And he had also time to write me a private message like this:
"And I report you because of false report on me".
I said "You started leeching after the bonus failed but u instantly joined the battle when I told the team to report you."
He finished some childish threat about he recorded the battle and if I say anything then he will bann me or something - I don't even care to remember it.
I really don't understand these people.
1., this is a god forsaken GAME.
2., Yes, sometimes I'm also annoyed with pugs. But I never ever called my teammates noobs or said anything negative. If I'm in the right mood and I have time to type in the middle of the battle sometimes I try to explain the right tactic, or just say "do this / don't do this" to save the game.
3. this is only a GAME.
4. I don't understand WHY these people do these stuff: the match will be much-much longer without their proper participation. And this particular "gentleman" wasn't AFK - he just watched the game from a distance. Ruining 4 other people's entertainment is just fun for him or what?
Phew... sorry guys for this post but I just had to blow off the steam.
It would be nice if ignoring somebody could block teaming up with him again. There is such a feature in SWTOR.
Maybe I'm lucky but I very rarely find somebody like this player in pugs. Maybe this is the reason why I'm shocked now
A "perfect" match with just good players would be boring after a time... With my main character I enjoy the extra challange of inexperienced players (ok, I know, maybe I should visit a doctor
So beginners (and I'll not call them noobs because I hate this word) are not a concern for me. Maybe I'm annoyed for a few minutes but I forget this very quickly. I'm concerned about these childish attitudes.
you know to be honest you were the one doing wrong.
it is NOT against the TOS to sit idle during a mission..
it IS however against the TOS to slader someone in chat.. calling him a leech might have gotten you banned if he did report you.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
This obviously states the guy is a damn imbecile. At this point I would have ignored him straight away.
Also, the second I would have noticed anyone is leechin... POOF... I'm gone... no one's gettin free rides on my back. Not even partial free rides. End of story. Theres plenty of afkr's out there and one of the reasons they exist is that they are encouraged by the other players indulgent benevolence.