Actually, I think that fan favorite might be the Vesta. It looks like we can talk about the leaks now without getting in trouble. The third leak was a Vesta model with windows and lights but no hull material hooked up. So it's in a significantly finished state. The Ambassador has been in heavier demand, but the Vesta's been up there, too.
nice, ambassador is on the horizon then. well i hope thats the fan favorite. the vesta is not a fan favorite, i think more people dislike then like that thing. it doesn't look like anything that should be from the 24rd century. besides, the texturless mesh was in the foundry, so its likely that it is one of the things that was finished already.
The vesta has plenty of fans Besides , you could say the same about every ship , there are lots out there that dislike the ambassador class and see it as a kitbash for example
Plus i fail to see how the vesta doesnt look like it belongs can you elaborate ?
Dont get me wrong however , id love to see the Ambassador , just going by the wording , and the vestas planned release for November , it doesnt seem likely it'll be the C
Plus i fail to see how the vesta doesnt look like it belongs can you elaborate ?
it shares nothing with the design languages for the period, established by the galaxy, intrepid, akira, etc..., it has about 500% more exterior detail and stripes painted on it then it should have, it looks like just a bunch of easily rendered shapes stuck together, stuff like that. if anything, it looks like a ship thats a century newer then the sovereign, not 10 years.
it shares nothing with the design languages for the period, established by the galaxy, intrepid, akira, etc..., it has about 500% more exterior detail and stripes painted on it then it should have, it looks like just a bunch of easily rendered shapes stuck together, stuff like that. if anything, it looks like a ship thats a century newer then the sovereign, not 10 years.
I think that if they dial back the color to look more like the Odyssey material, it'd look more STOish.
Even if they didn't, it wouldn't look any more out of place than all those Galaxy-X ships with Borg technology growing on them. :P
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I hope it will be the Ambassador.
I just don't like the Vesta, it's much to angular and it's proportions are totally nasty.
@centersolace: what "Starfleet Command" ships are you refereing to?
How do they look like?
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I quite like the thought of the ambassador class but surely the KDF needs some ships as well. My KDF characters flles like bringing his BOP to PWE and taking over so he can get some new ships.
Hmm maybe I should do a foundry mission KDF VS PWE
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Actually, I think that fan favorite might be the Vesta. It looks like we can talk about the leaks now without getting in trouble. The third leak was a Vesta model with windows and lights but no hull material hooked up. So it's in a significantly finished state. The Ambassador has been in heavier demand, but the Vesta's been up there, too.
I disagree. If you read the quotes, he said " finished the latest rounds of Fed and KDF ships. Next is the 1000 day vet ship then the much anticipated fan favorite." This implies that the fan favorite ship has not even been started yet. I do not believe that would be the Vesta.
He also said he was just finishing ships that we've already seen in-game as functioning and unique NPCs. The exact same wording was used on the Odyssey months after we'd seen it in the ISS Stadi.
Consider who's posting. Geko doesn't do the ship models and art. When he starts on a ship, based on his past interviews and tweets about upcoming ships, the model is already substantially if not completely done.
it shares nothing with the design languages for the period, established by the galaxy, intrepid, akira, etc..., it has about 500% more exterior detail and stripes painted on it then it should have, it looks like just a bunch of easily rendered shapes stuck together, stuff like that. if anything, it looks like a ship thats a century newer then the sovereign, not 10 years.
theres a very good reason for that its designed solely around the concept of slipstream drive , in the books ( not official canon i know ) the reason voyager and by extension the dauntless were able to use the drive was because of the hull geometry . thats why the vesta seems so flat and ' shark like ' as its described in the books
when the breen get their hands on the plans for the drive , they have to go about completely rethinking their ship design from the keel up , because it wouldnt work with the drive .
as for the exterior detail , thats more the artists taste more than anything else , although the vesta class ships did have a lot of new tech installed on them too , which may be represented by the added exterior detail
Starfleet command also had TMP versions of the Saladin Destroyer, Hermes scout, and Federation Dreadnaught seen in the Franz Joseph Star Fleet Technical Manual, and anumber of other original designs.
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Well... there quite unique...
but not really my taste.
Personally i think a Starfleet ship should have a balanced and somehow simplistic design, just look at the 1701 or the 1701 -D, clear lines nice overall proportions and nice to look at.
For me the ships you posted don't fulfill these criteria. But thanks for the pictures anyway.
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Well... there quite unique...
but not really my taste.
Personally i think a Starfleet ship should have a balanced and somehow simplistic design, just look at the 1701 or the 1701 -D, clear lines nice overall proportions and nice to look at.
For me the ships you posted don't fulfill these criteria. But thanks for the pictures anyway.
Well Geko said something about it being both canon and not canon. I thought it could mean either a non-canon variant of a canon ship, or a ship that's canon in a non/pseudo-canon thing like a novel or a game. Star Fleet Command was just the first thing that popped in my head. :P
most likely it means that it has either been mentioned in canon (the shows), but no details were given except in non-canon source (like a novel or game)
or it means that it has been seen in the show, but none of the details like class name are given except in non-canon sources.
a good example of the former is the daedalus class, which has been mentioned by name on screen, the actual appearance has never been shown on screen*, but which several non-canon works have detailed
an example of the latter would be the "intrepid class" from Enterprise, with is a non-canon name for the 'half saucer' earth ship we see in a few episodes of season 3 and 4, which never gave any info in it.
* the daedalus class's non-canon appearance is based on a model seen a few times in sisko's office. there is nothing in the show to link the two, but several non-canon sources conflate them. since said sources were the writers and prop makers for the show, few argue with it.
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@CaptainGeko: ?@x3of9: I can't wait for the hints as to the 1000 day ship to start...Original or canon? etc?
Not exactly either. That'll bake your noodle.
Hm. See... The Luna would be an example of something that is BOTH original AND canon. The design is original. Its canon status is confirmed by dialogue.
Whereas the Excalibur/Exeter/Vesper is something NEITHER canon (no basis there) nor is it ORIGINAL (the names and shape are familiar).
An Odyssey variant would EXPLICITLY be neither for the most part.
So my inclination is that it's a new ship with a familiar name and shape that is similar to an established ship.
With that in mind, my guess is that the T5 Fed version is Excalibur/Exeter/Vesper (hence the omission from Fleet versions) with a new variant replacing the the Constitution.
My guess would also be that it's a science ship with an Eng/Tac loadout and 3/3/3 consoles and a toggle that turns it into a tough escort, not unlike how the D'Kora goes from Science-y Cruiser to what's essentially a Science-y Escort or how the Siege Destroyer basically toggles between Escort and Cruiser.
Al Rivera recently slipped out in a Priorityone podcast that the 1000 day reward will be full-fledged ships, not variants. My money remains on the Wells/Korvath
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Al Rivera recently slipped out in a Priorityone podcast that the 1000 day reward will be full-fledged ships, not variants. My money remains on the Wells/Korvath
My bet is that the Wells/Korvath are in the next lockbox, since 1) they already leaked in-game, meaning the models are pretty much done; and 2) When asked in the recent Raptr Q&A about what's in the next lockbox, Stahl responded "only *time* will tell..."
That being said, if the next lockbox is time-related, this may open up the opportunity for the Ambassador-class ship that a lot of people have been wanting. They've said for quite a while that the major thing holding them up on the Ambassador was that they wanted it to tie in to a time-travel story where we get to see what happened to the ENT-C.
Didn't they specify the Ent-C will be a story reward?
So far we know there are 4 ships in the works, the Ent-C, Korvath, Vesta, and Wells.
There are up-to 6 ship slots to fill, however. The least efficent would be as you suggested: Wells/Korvath in the box, Ent-C and... something KDF... in the mission chain, and 2 new variant skins in the 1000-day as yet unseen.
The path of least effort would be:
Wells/Korvath in the 1000-day, a Romulan ship in the lockbox (remember, its a Romulan/Tholian theme as depicted in the artwork of the colony), and The Ent-C and... something KDF in the mission rewards.
But honestly, either is likely I suppose. Will be interesting regardless.
Either way, I'm looking forward to the minimum of 2 KDF ships, maximum of 2 ships + 1 skin, the next season would require. Particularly since the Korvath isn't particularly interesting to me.
EDIT: Had to add the vesta above - which could be the variant they were discussing? So then we'd still have a missing KDF 1000-day and KDF mission reward... hopefully there's a nice Qin variant in there somewhere
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Didn't they specify the Ent-C will be a story reward?
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The path of least effort would be:
Wells/Korvath in the 1000-day, a Romulan ship in the lockbox (remember, its a Romulan/Tholian theme as depicted in the artwork of the colony), and The Ent-C and... something KDF in the mission rewards.
You don't remember that they had Cardassian-related lockboxes during the Cradassian Featured Episode series?
Anyway, they wouldn't necessarily need an entire story arc to tell what happened to the ENT-C, they could feasibly do it in a single one-off mission (like that KDF one-off mission where they fought Hirogen on that planet): "What happened to the ENT-C? Let's go into our way-back machine and find out! Oh hey, look at that, it explodes! Story over!"
So from the way I see it, while the main story arc would be the Romulan colony, there's a one-off mission for the ENT-C. We get new lockboxes with the Wells and Korvath (which could possibly be seen as NPC ships in an ENT-C story mission), the ENT-C goes into the C-Store for anyone to buy. Also, the 1000-day reward could be the Vesta (although I thought I heard one of the Cryptic staff say in one of the podcasts at STLV that the Vesta would be a C-Store ship... but plans can and do often change on the fly)
Another possibility: The one-off mission back to the ENT-C Khitomer incident could be the 1000-day reward (although getting an ENT-C would only really benefit FED players)
You don't remember that they had Cardassian-related lockboxes during the Cradassian Featured Episode series?
Anyway, they wouldn't necessarily need an entire story arc to tell what happened to the ENT-C, they could feasibly do it in a single one-off mission (like that KDF one-off mission where they fought Hirogen on that planet): "What happened to the ENT-C? Let's go into our way-back machine and find out! Oh hey, look at that, it explodes! Story over!"
So from the way I see it, while the main story arc would be the Romulan colony, there's a one-off mission for the ENT-C. We get new lockboxes with the Wells and Korvath (which could possibly be seen as NPC ships in an ENT-C story mission), the ENT-C goes into the C-Store for anyone to buy. Also, the 1000-day reward could be the Vesta (although I thought I heard one of the Cryptic staff say in one of the podcasts at STLV that the Vesta would be a C-Store ship... but plans can and do often change on the fly)
Another possibility: The one-off mission back to the ENT-C Khitomer incident could be the 1000-day reward (although getting an ENT-C would only really benefit FED players)
They specifically stated the Ambassador was intended for a story reward. Personally the screenshot from August 31 and the Aug 17th Romulan Colony art give a clear picture of how: Tholians are strongly featured in both, and the August 31st image clearly shows Tholians working on UFP or Terran ships. Considering their established time mucking, including the ISS ship deep in the Tholian Invasion interior missions, its fairly easy to suggest the Ambassador Class could easily live at the end of a Tholian-themed mission arc - they stole it and you get to keep it. Don't let the Romulan Colony setting fool you, both those images clearly highlight a Tholian presence, despite the setting.
It doesn't matter if they *need* the arc, they've actually come right out and said that's what it will be (again, Al Rivera on Priority One, iirc). I would agree with you if not for his statement.
Since we already have Tholian-themed lockboxes, I am willing to concede that between Stahl's comment and the Tholian abuse of time travel to get technologies, the next box could very well be time-themed, therefore rewarding timeships.
This then still leaves 2 KDF ships as unknown WIP: The 1000-day and the counter offer to the Ent-C (unless they do something very strange and make it an ISS Ent-C for both? I hope not!)
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Hm. See... The Luna would be an example of something that is BOTH original AND canon. The design is original. Its canon status is confirmed by dialogue.
Whereas the Excalibur/Exeter/Vesper is something NEITHER canon (no basis there) nor is it ORIGINAL (the names and shape are familiar).
An Odyssey variant would EXPLICITLY be neither for the most part.
So my inclination is that it's a new ship with a familiar name and shape that is similar to an established ship.
With that in mind, my guess is that the T5 Fed version is Excalibur/Exeter/Vesper (hence the omission from Fleet versions) with a new variant replacing the the Constitution.
My guess would also be that it's a science ship with an Eng/Tac loadout and 3/3/3 consoles and a toggle that turns it into a tough escort, not unlike how the D'Kora goes from Science-y Cruiser to what's essentially a Science-y Escort or how the Siege Destroyer basically toggles between Escort and Cruiser.
I'm going out on a limb and saying the Vesta Class.
I'm going out on a limb and saying the Vesta Class.
For the 1000 day veteran reward? Yeah right, that's going in the C-Store for certain.
I agree with Levy, I think it's going to be a new variant of an old ship. Might have an entirely new layout and purpose, but that's what my money is on.
For the 1000 day veteran reward? Yeah right, that's going in the C-Store for certain.
I agree with Levy, I think it's going to be a new variant of an old ship. Might have an entirely new layout and purpose, but that's what my money is on.
I'd agree in all likelihood but again, things have been seen and I'm gambling time ships in lock boxes.
I know this is a bit out there, but I thought for the 1000-day veteran ship.. why not the USS Dauntless, it does after all have two variants the dauntless (FED) and the alien version that was Arturis's (KDF) ship.
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The vesta has plenty of fans
Plus i fail to see how the vesta doesnt look like it belongs
Dont get me wrong however , id love to see the Ambassador , just going by the wording , and the vestas planned release for November , it doesnt seem likely it'll be the C
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it shares nothing with the design languages for the period, established by the galaxy, intrepid, akira, etc..., it has about 500% more exterior detail and stripes painted on it then it should have, it looks like just a bunch of easily rendered shapes stuck together, stuff like that. if anything, it looks like a ship thats a century newer then the sovereign, not 10 years.
I think that if they dial back the color to look more like the Odyssey material, it'd look more STOish.
Even if they didn't, it wouldn't look any more out of place than all those Galaxy-X ships with Borg technology growing on them. :P
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I just don't like the Vesta, it's much to angular and it's proportions are totally nasty.
@centersolace: what "Starfleet Command" ships are you refereing to?
How do they look like?
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Hmm maybe I should do a foundry mission KDF VS PWE
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I disagree. If you read the quotes, he said " finished the latest rounds of Fed and KDF ships. Next is the 1000 day vet ship then the much anticipated fan favorite." This implies that the fan favorite ship has not even been started yet. I do not believe that would be the Vesta.
Consider who's posting. Geko doesn't do the ship models and art. When he starts on a ship, based on his past interviews and tweets about upcoming ships, the model is already substantially if not completely done.
theres a very good reason for that
when the breen get their hands on the plans for the drive , they have to go about completely rethinking their ship design from the keel up , because it wouldnt work with the drive .
as for the exterior detail , thats more the artists taste more than anything else , although the vesta class ships did have a lot of new tech installed on them too , which may be represented by the added exterior detail
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Here are a few of them.
That, my friend, is the Yamato battleship, featured in SFC, but originally debuted in Klingon Academy.
This is the Battleship
Starfleet command also had TMP versions of the Saladin Destroyer, Hermes scout, and Federation Dreadnaught seen in the Franz Joseph Star Fleet Technical Manual, and anumber of other original designs.
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but not really my taste.
Personally i think a Starfleet ship should have a balanced and somehow simplistic design, just look at the 1701 or the 1701 -D, clear lines nice overall proportions and nice to look at.
For me the ships you posted don't fulfill these criteria. But thanks for the pictures anyway.
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I know that, but it was one of the few ships that I could actually find screenshots of.
Well Geko said something about it being both canon and not canon. I thought it could mean either a non-canon variant of a canon ship, or a ship that's canon in a non/pseudo-canon thing like a novel or a game. Star Fleet Command was just the first thing that popped in my head. :P
or it means that it has been seen in the show, but none of the details like class name are given except in non-canon sources.
a good example of the former is the daedalus class, which has been mentioned by name on screen, the actual appearance has never been shown on screen*, but which several non-canon works have detailed
an example of the latter would be the "intrepid class" from Enterprise, with is a non-canon name for the 'half saucer' earth ship we see in a few episodes of season 3 and 4, which never gave any info in it.
* the daedalus class's non-canon appearance is based on a model seen a few times in sisko's office. there is nothing in the show to link the two, but several non-canon sources conflate them. since said sources were the writers and prop makers for the show, few argue with it.
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Hm. See... The Luna would be an example of something that is BOTH original AND canon. The design is original. Its canon status is confirmed by dialogue.
Whereas the Excalibur/Exeter/Vesper is something NEITHER canon (no basis there) nor is it ORIGINAL (the names and shape are familiar).
An Odyssey variant would EXPLICITLY be neither for the most part.
So my inclination is that it's a new ship with a familiar name and shape that is similar to an established ship.
With that in mind, my guess is that the T5 Fed version is Excalibur/Exeter/Vesper (hence the omission from Fleet versions) with a new variant replacing the the Constitution.
My guess would also be that it's a science ship with an Eng/Tac loadout and 3/3/3 consoles and a toggle that turns it into a tough escort, not unlike how the D'Kora goes from Science-y Cruiser to what's essentially a Science-y Escort or how the Siege Destroyer basically toggles between Escort and Cruiser.
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My bet is that the Wells/Korvath are in the next lockbox, since 1) they already leaked in-game, meaning the models are pretty much done; and 2) When asked in the recent Raptr Q&A about what's in the next lockbox, Stahl responded "only *time* will tell..."
That being said, if the next lockbox is time-related, this may open up the opportunity for the Ambassador-class ship that a lot of people have been wanting. They've said for quite a while that the major thing holding them up on the Ambassador was that they wanted it to tie in to a time-travel story where we get to see what happened to the ENT-C.
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So far we know there are 4 ships in the works, the Ent-C, Korvath, Vesta, and Wells.
There are up-to 6 ship slots to fill, however. The least efficent would be as you suggested: Wells/Korvath in the box, Ent-C and... something KDF... in the mission chain, and 2 new variant skins in the 1000-day as yet unseen.
The path of least effort would be:
Wells/Korvath in the 1000-day, a Romulan ship in the lockbox (remember, its a Romulan/Tholian theme as depicted in the artwork of the colony), and The Ent-C and... something KDF in the mission rewards.
But honestly, either is likely I suppose. Will be interesting regardless.
Either way, I'm looking forward to the minimum of 2 KDF ships, maximum of 2 ships + 1 skin, the next season would require. Particularly since the Korvath isn't particularly interesting to me.
EDIT: Had to add the vesta above - which could be the variant they were discussing? So then we'd still have a missing KDF 1000-day and KDF mission reward... hopefully there's a nice Qin variant in there somewhere
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You don't remember that they had Cardassian-related lockboxes during the Cradassian Featured Episode series?
Anyway, they wouldn't necessarily need an entire story arc to tell what happened to the ENT-C, they could feasibly do it in a single one-off mission (like that KDF one-off mission where they fought Hirogen on that planet): "What happened to the ENT-C? Let's go into our way-back machine and find out! Oh hey, look at that, it explodes! Story over!"
So from the way I see it, while the main story arc would be the Romulan colony, there's a one-off mission for the ENT-C. We get new lockboxes with the Wells and Korvath (which could possibly be seen as NPC ships in an ENT-C story mission), the ENT-C goes into the C-Store for anyone to buy. Also, the 1000-day reward could be the Vesta (although I thought I heard one of the Cryptic staff say in one of the podcasts at STLV that the Vesta would be a C-Store ship... but plans can and do often change on the fly)
Another possibility: The one-off mission back to the ENT-C Khitomer incident could be the 1000-day reward (although getting an ENT-C would only really benefit FED players)
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They specifically stated the Ambassador was intended for a story reward. Personally the screenshot from August 31 and the Aug 17th Romulan Colony art give a clear picture of how: Tholians are strongly featured in both, and the August 31st image clearly shows Tholians working on UFP or Terran ships. Considering their established time mucking, including the ISS ship deep in the Tholian Invasion interior missions, its fairly easy to suggest the Ambassador Class could easily live at the end of a Tholian-themed mission arc - they stole it and you get to keep it. Don't let the Romulan Colony setting fool you, both those images clearly highlight a Tholian presence, despite the setting.
It doesn't matter if they *need* the arc, they've actually come right out and said that's what it will be (again, Al Rivera on Priority One, iirc). I would agree with you if not for his statement.
Since we already have Tholian-themed lockboxes, I am willing to concede that between Stahl's comment and the Tholian abuse of time travel to get technologies, the next box could very well be time-themed, therefore rewarding timeships.
This then still leaves 2 KDF ships as unknown WIP: The 1000-day and the counter offer to the Ent-C (unless they do something very strange and make it an ISS Ent-C for both? I hope not!)
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I'm going out on a limb and saying the Vesta Class.
For the 1000 day veteran reward? Yeah right, that's going in the C-Store for certain.
I agree with Levy, I think it's going to be a new variant of an old ship. Might have an entirely new layout and purpose, but that's what my money is on.
I'd agree in all likelihood but again, things have been seen and I'm gambling time ships in lock boxes.
It's unlikely but it's a chance.
One ship two skins easy as pie....?
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