/Sigh. Another who calls it a WoW clone. Why not EQ? Or EQ2 Or DAOC etc. Change the record.
So your saying that TOR only has 4 classes really? Okay, it still 3 times more classes then STO which has one in that case no? Eng/Sci/Tac are really just the same?
Don't know what server you played on, but mine was always heavy and always has been. I am constantly fighting in the other side in open world. I admit that TOR opened up way too many servers and bowed to the pressure of people waiting hours to get in. Now they have tons of light servers as many "smart" people just created new toons on heavy ones.
I would have no problem with server merges or free character transfer even now, as most TOR people would find that benefits them. From the outside world and especially the CDF force on here, it would be spun as failing, hence why they won't do it.
Finally, I get it, you don't like TOR. That's fine and it's your opinion, but please don't try and spin it in such a way to justify why you don't like it as your starting to sound silly.
If you said it had no space combat and STO's was better. Yep I understand that.
If you said you hate the SW IP. Yep I can understand that.
If you said it was just another EQ clone and your sick of playing EQ. Yep I can understand that.
In the end, why not except that TOR isn't for you and that STO is? 1.7 mil people may disagree with you, but the "niche" lot that play STO will.
Lol funny you mentioned about dressing up dolls. In TOR, i hope you dont roll a consular, my friend. You will be FORCED to dress like a doll.
And, correct me if im wrong, but i will guess that you didn´t reach lvl cap yet, did you? Once you hit 50, thats it. You´ve beaten the game, move on to the next one or roll another toon and grind your *** again.
did you do raids? if not the game is not over when you hit 50 and also there not 5 man to there 8 man to 16 man raids sto don't even have one raid to its name
What do you think has been labeled at STO since day 1?
1. You can solo all the way to end level (within a weekend and a red bull).
2. You can group without saying a word.
3. It's heavily geared for single players.
Man, you come right out of a comic book...
But I have to say, where have you been for 2 years? I don't recall seeing your sig and you would have given me so much entrainment in reading your posts.
Please don't stop. I am getting more content entertainment from reading your posts, then I am from Cryptic.
Are you going to be the new season 6 or 7 content?
/Sigh. Another who calls it a WoW clone. Why not EQ? Or EQ2 Or DAOC etc. Change the record.
Well just because wow has been the reference in the MMO scene through years now. Don´t get why so many people get touchy when those 3 letters come up in any thread. Wow was a good game, i played it, had fun, moved to the next one, big deal.
So your saying that TOR only has 4 classes really? Okay, it still 3 times more classes then STO which has one in that case no? Eng/Sci/Tac are really just the same?
Don't know what server you played on, but mine was always heavy and always has been. I am constantly fighting in the other side in open world. I admit that TOR opened up way too many servers and bowed to the pressure of people waiting hours to get in. Now they have tons of light servers as many "smart" people just created new toons on heavy ones.
I would have no problem with server merges or free character transfer even now, as most TOR people would find that benefits them. From the outside world and especially the CDF force on here, it would be spun as failing, hence why they won't do it.
BW won´t do server merges anytime soon, as they´re afraid of thei game seem "less successful".
Finally, I get it, you don't like TOR. That's fine and it's your opinion, but please don't try and spin it in such a way to justify why you don't like it as your starting to sound silly.
There´s the difference between us, mate. When someone tells me that a game im playing and enjoying sucks, i think: "well, maybe he´s right, maybe he´s not." And move on playing until that game stops being worth playing. Then its time to look into other things. Some people will just "defend" a piece of software with their lives.
If anyone here´s starting to sound silly, well... i guess we better stop here.
If you said it had no space combat and STO's was better. Yep I understand that.
If you said you hate the SW IP. Yep I can understand that.
If you said it was just another EQ clone and your sick of playing EQ. Yep I can understand that.
In the end, why not except that TOR isn't for you and that STO is? 1.7 mil people may disagree with you, but the "niche" lot that play STO will.
As much as i hate to repeat myself but... you like TOR? By all means, go play it. There you go.
Lol funny you mentioned about dressing up dolls. In TOR, i hope you dont roll a consular, my friend. You will be FORCED to dress like a doll.
And, correct me if im wrong, but i will guess that you didn´t reach lvl cap yet, did you? Once you hit 50, thats it. You´ve beaten the game, move on to the next one or roll another toon and grind your *** again.
Lol. Yep, I am a 50 Consular and yes, I agree it is like dressing up as a doll. They haven't quite got the hang of costumes for the consular yet me thinks. I have to have helmets/head gear turned off as it's terrible.
But that said, you have completely shot yourself in the foot by saying when you get to 50 that's it.
I don't have to go into what you can do as you will just say it's another EQ clone, but yes you can do raids and PVP. And when they fix Illum, which I am sure they will, I will enjoy more of the PVP aspect.
At least I can try alts (the other 3 classes as you mention) and get a different story as well as game play and different parts to the planets.
Where's the end level game here? Ahh, I know, it's change the types, get a new paint job and take the care for a drive.
it irritates me when ppl say swtor has no content when you roll one class you going to do more mission on just that one class then you will do in all of sto also whit what little the KDF have to not to say that one class will have its own story mission that no other class will
it irritates me when ppl say swtor has no content when you roll one class you going to do more mission on just that one class then you will do in all of sto whit what little the KDF have to not to say that one class will have its own story mission that no other class will
I should have spent too much time away from MMOs.
I didn´t noticed that story is considered MMO content.
World Pvp, raids, quests / missions, these things are content. Story? Meh.
Lol. Yep, I am a 50 Consular and yes, I agree it is like dressing up as a doll. They haven't quite got the hang of costumes for the consular yet me thinks. I have to have helmets/head gear turned off as it's terrible.
But that said, you have completely shot yourself in the foot by saying when you get to 50 that's it.
I don't have to go into what you can do as you will just say it's another EQ clone, but yes you can do raids and PVP. And when they fix Illum, which I am sure they will, I will enjoy more of the PVP aspect.
At least I can try alts (the other 3 classes as you mention) and get a different story as well as game play and different parts to the planets.
Where's the end level game here? Ahh, I know, it's change the types, get a new paint job and take the care for a drive.
Over to you.
What exactly do you do nowadays with your 50 toon, besides doing the SAME 3 WZ over and over, FP on HM and bugged Ilum? Come on, throw me a bone, chief.
What exactly do you do nowadays with your 50 toon, besides doing the SAME 3 WZ over and over, FP on HM and bugged Ilum? Come on, throw me a bone, chief.
ummmmmmm RAIDS they are the type of thing you need a guild for sto fleet aka guild really no use for them
I didn´t noticed that story is considered MMO content.
World Pvp, raids, quests / missions, these things are content. Story? Meh.
Don't forget Tribbles and Lock boxes and C-Store fluff. These are consider Content in STO by Cryptic and a lot of the players, so they must be part of an MMO?
Story isn't eh? Why do so many people in STO rush to play FE?
did you do raids? if not the game is not over when you hit 50 and also there not 5 man to there 8 man to 16 man raids sto don't even have one raid to its name
And if you're more into PvP - there is now a ranking system! Suddenly, there is even a long-term motivation even without territory control.
TOR ´s got content? If you´re referring to the cutscenes
Funny, and here I thought that Featured Episodes where one of the most liked and desired features in Starterk Online. But delivering story content with cut scenes and voice overs is not good enough if TOR does it? From the start, for 2 factions?
And yes, of course that's MMO content.
2 "full" factions? Story wise, maybe. Ingame, openworld? You´re lucky too see a member of the oposing faction before going to Ilum when you hit cap. There are WZ, yes. MOBA games, nothing more.
Ah, remember the glorious days when the Klingons could travel everywhere and you could meet them in every single Sector Block and you could choose to enter battle with them?
And remember the glorious days when you'd roll up an Engineer instead of a Science Officer and you suddenly had some completely new missions that you never played before?
Funnily enough, I don't remember any of that. But I am bad with memorizing dreams, usually I forget them after I wake up (except the ones where I lose teeth).
But Startrek Online has one thing TOR definitely hasn't: Ferengi Lockboxes.
And if you're more into PvP - there is now a ranking system! Suddenly, there is even a long-term motivation even without territory control.
Funny, and here I thought that Featured Episodes where one of the most liked and desired features in Starterk Online. But delivering story content with cut scenes and voice overs is not good enough if TOR does it? From the start, for 2 factions?
Ah, remember the glorious days when the Klingons could travel everywhere and you could meet them in every single Sector Block and you could choose to enter battle with them?
And remember the glorious days when you'd roll up an Engineer instead of a Science Officer and you suddenly had some completely new missions that you never played before?
Funnily enough, I don't remember any of that. But I am bad with memorizing dreams, usually I forget them after I wake up (except the ones where I lose teeth).
But Startrek Online has one thing TOR definitely hasn't: Ferengi Lockboxes.
Well said...
Me thinks in his haste to reply to us all, he is not thinking clearly.
And if you're more into PvP - there is now a ranking system! Suddenly, there is even a long-term motivation even without territory control.
Funny, and here I thought that Featured Episodes where one of the most liked and desired features in Starterk Online. But delivering story content with cut scenes and voice overs is not good enough if TOR does it? From the start, for 2 factions?
Ah, remember the glorious days when the Klingons could travel everywhere and you could meet them in every single Sector Block and you could choose to enter battle with them?
And remember the glorious days when you'd roll up an Engineer instead of a Science Officer and you suddenly had some completely new missions that you never played before?
Funnily enough, I don't remember any of that. But I am bad with memorizing dreams, usually I forget them after I wake up (except the ones where I lose teeth).
But Startrek Online has one thing TOR definitely hasn't: Ferengi Lockboxes.
I can´t really answer why other players like STO, maybe they´re fans of the series, maybe they´re really geeks (no offense) or maybe they´re just players that like some part of the game.
If you´re confortable playing a game just because of its story, to see how it "ends", and then reroll another character to do the exact same thing, well... Good for you.
What exactly do you do nowadays with your 50 toon, besides doing the SAME 3 WZ over and over, FP on HM and bugged Ilum? Come on, throw me a bone, chief.
Yep all the above plus trying another of the 8/16 different alts.
Tell you what, what do you do when you reach end level here?
I can´t really answer why other players like STO, maybe they´re fans of the series, maybe they´re really geeks (no offense) or maybe they´re just players that like some part of the game.
If you´re confortable playing a game just because of its story, to see how it "ends", and then reroll another character to do the exact same thing, well... Good for you.
So you don't really have a good response to his post then?
So now that the haters have finished hating. (For the moment)
If anyone wants to meet up in TOR. I play on Space Slug, character name Authurious. If you decide to roll a republic force users I might even fix you up with some free orange gear.
So now that the haters have finished hating. (For the moment)
If anyone wants to meet up in TOR. I play on Space Slug, character name Authurious. If you decide to roll a republic force users I might even fix you up with some free orange gear.
Can you get me a Purple LS for by level 23 Guardian???
I'm hoping with 1.2 that I can get a Purple LS at lower levels, without waiting for 50. My consular has one, but I bought it from the vendor for 200k.
I'm all for top level hard to achieve gear, but it was one of the things I think BIO failed on when they decided to give purple at level 50 and to the Empire and stopped colour from been available to everyone.
People weren't asking for great stats, just the colour of their choice. Now it seems with 1.2 we will get something like this?
I'm just waiting to start my Chiss Sentinal...:) I believe if you have enough in game currency you can buy races if you don't have one at 50 of that race? Hope so, or it's rolling a Chiss Agent.
Can you get me a Purple LS for by level 23 Guardian???
I'm hoping with 1.2 that I can get a Purple LS at lower levels, without waiting for 50. My consular has one, but I bought it from the vendor for 200k.
I'm all for top level hard to achieve gear, but it was one of the things I think BIO failed on when they decided to give purple at level 50 and to the Empire and stopped colour from been available to everyone.
People weren't asking for great stats, just the colour of their choice. Now it seems with 1.2 we will get something like this?
I'm just waiting to start my Chiss Sentinal...:) I believe if you have enough in game currency you can buy races if you don't have one at 50 of that race? Hope so, or it's rolling a Chiss Agent.
I haven't heard anything about lower level purple colour crystals. Though I have a feeling we'll be able to learn how to craft Purple and Cyan crystals at some point pretty soon. It seems like only White will be going away for a while.
As for the Chiss Sentinel, I think it's 1.5 million credits and legacy level 8. I could be wrong on both accounts, I didn't spend much time looking at the system on the test realm.
I haven't heard anything about lower level purple colour crystals. Though I have a feeling we'll be able to learn how to craft Purple and Cyan crystals at some point pretty soon. It seems like only White will be going away for a while.
As for the Chiss Sentinel, I think it's 1.5 million credits and legacy level 8. I could be wrong on both accounts, I didn't spend much time looking at the system on the test realm.
Gah.
Ahh well, because I'm enjoying the game immensely, as it has loads of content and lots of classes to play;), I will start a Chiss Agent.
Just do the Ilum and Belsavis dailies for a week, you'll get the credits and legacy experience needed. I almost hit 15 million before they released the crystal vendor. I'm up to legacy level 37 or 38 now. Stopped doing dailies to level my trooper.
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you should see his checking in from swtor thread
did you do raids? if not the game is not over when you hit 50 and also there not 5 man to there 8 man to 16 man raids sto don't even have one raid to its name
There you go again, sounding silly.
What do you think has been labeled at STO since day 1?
1. You can solo all the way to end level (within a weekend and a red bull).
2. You can group without saying a word.
3. It's heavily geared for single players.
Man, you come right out of a comic book...
But I have to say, where have you been for 2 years? I don't recall seeing your sig and you would have given me so much entrainment in reading your posts.
Please don't stop. I am getting more content entertainment from reading your posts, then I am from Cryptic.
Are you going to be the new season 6 or 7 content?
As much as i hate to repeat myself but... you like TOR? By all means, go play it. There you go.
Lol. Yep, I am a 50 Consular and yes, I agree it is like dressing up as a doll. They haven't quite got the hang of costumes for the consular yet me thinks. I have to have helmets/head gear turned off as it's terrible.
But that said, you have completely shot yourself in the foot by saying when you get to 50 that's it.
I don't have to go into what you can do as you will just say it's another EQ clone, but yes you can do raids and PVP. And when they fix Illum, which I am sure they will, I will enjoy more of the PVP aspect.
At least I can try alts (the other 3 classes as you mention) and get a different story as well as game play and different parts to the planets.
Where's the end level game here? Ahh, I know, it's change the types, get a new paint job and take the care for a drive.
Over to you.
Feel free to do so.
I should have spent too much time away from MMOs.
I didn´t noticed that story is considered MMO content.
World Pvp, raids, quests / missions, these things are content. Story? Meh.
You actually posted this? Haven't you just been doing this for the last 2 pages for STO?
Shesh mate.
story mission is the same thing its still a mission for that class only
What exactly do you do nowadays with your 50 toon, besides doing the SAME 3 WZ over and over, FP on HM and bugged Ilum? Come on, throw me a bone, chief.
ummmmmmm RAIDS they are the type of thing you need a guild for sto fleet aka guild really no use for them
Don't forget Tribbles and Lock boxes and C-Store fluff. These are consider Content in STO by Cryptic and a lot of the players, so they must be part of an MMO?
Story isn't eh? Why do so many people in STO rush to play FE?
I have said it before but allow me to repeat.
Man, you come right out of a comic book...
And if you're more into PvP - there is now a ranking system! Suddenly, there is even a long-term motivation even without territory control.
Funny, and here I thought that Featured Episodes where one of the most liked and desired features in Starterk Online. But delivering story content with cut scenes and voice overs is not good enough if TOR does it? From the start, for 2 factions?
And yes, of course that's MMO content.
Ah, remember the glorious days when the Klingons could travel everywhere and you could meet them in every single Sector Block and you could choose to enter battle with them?
And remember the glorious days when you'd roll up an Engineer instead of a Science Officer and you suddenly had some completely new missions that you never played before?
Funnily enough, I don't remember any of that. But I am bad with memorizing dreams, usually I forget them after I wake up (except the ones where I lose teeth).
But Startrek Online has one thing TOR definitely hasn't: Ferengi Lockboxes.
Pretty much more of the same with a pinch of salt.
Though I'm quite amazed at how active this thread is. Wasn't expecting a response till tomorrow.
Well said...
Me thinks in his haste to reply to us all, he is not thinking clearly.
He must really hate TOR and love his Tribbles.
He's still up waiting for 1.2 to hit.
Me thinks he's he secret TORer...
I can name something tor don't have sto dose a CStore
lmfao you are toooooo funny
I can´t really answer why other players like STO, maybe they´re fans of the series, maybe they´re really geeks (no offense) or maybe they´re just players that like some part of the game.
If you´re confortable playing a game just because of its story, to see how it "ends", and then reroll another character to do the exact same thing, well... Good for you.
Yep all the above plus trying another of the 8/16 different alts.
Tell you what, what do you do when you reach end level here?
Next.
So you don't really have a good response to his post then?
One thing is for sure: i don´t waste my time on TOR forums. I have some friends there, but hey, thats what VENT / TS / MUMBLE is for, right?
Ahh, I see you've lost your fiss now m8.
You slate TOR for what it has, but when asked about STO, you cannot answer.
Well that says it all.
I was right from my first reply to you.
I think you will find your CDF badge might be taken off you for failing so bad
If anyone wants to meet up in TOR. I play on Space Slug, character name Authurious. If you decide to roll a republic force users I might even fix you up with some free orange gear.
Can you get me a Purple LS for by level 23 Guardian???
I'm hoping with 1.2 that I can get a Purple LS at lower levels, without waiting for 50. My consular has one, but I bought it from the vendor for 200k.
I'm all for top level hard to achieve gear, but it was one of the things I think BIO failed on when they decided to give purple at level 50 and to the Empire and stopped colour from been available to everyone.
People weren't asking for great stats, just the colour of their choice. Now it seems with 1.2 we will get something like this?
I'm just waiting to start my Chiss Sentinal...:) I believe if you have enough in game currency you can buy races if you don't have one at 50 of that race? Hope so, or it's rolling a Chiss Agent.
I haven't heard anything about lower level purple colour crystals. Though I have a feeling we'll be able to learn how to craft Purple and Cyan crystals at some point pretty soon. It seems like only White will be going away for a while.
As for the Chiss Sentinel, I think it's 1.5 million credits and legacy level 8. I could be wrong on both accounts, I didn't spend much time looking at the system on the test realm.
Gah.
Ahh well, because I'm enjoying the game immensely, as it has loads of content and lots of classes to play;), I will start a Chiss Agent.
Thanks for the info.