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Gozerrrrrrr! Kdf Honor Guard ..

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited January 2012 in Klingon Discussion
Gozer man!
I DID IT. Kuiama del Solima got all 3 pieces of the MK XI KDF Honor Guard ground set. I aaalso got the rest of the retro Assimlated Borg set on my ship.. Gonna work on getting the Mk XI ship set now.. 124 STF runs so far, and I haven't even touched the elite stuff.

I doubt if I was the first KDF to do it, but I haven't seen aanyone so far running around in the honor guard uniform. I suspect I know why. Its incomplete. But I am really hidiously dissapointed with the look of the armor and I got some issues. Art dept type issues..

1. Cannot wear my Vet rewards paldrons witht he honor guard arrmor...

2. Cannot wear rank sash with armor (no collar inignia in game ecen though its canon to replace them on the HG armor)

3. Female toon, see avatar? Orion female toon.. NO CLEAVAGE!!!!! 134 STF's after the built went live,
Hours aapon hours of time..family irritated with grandpa here because grandpa is playing STO while watching grand daughters, and MY KUI DOESN"T GET TO SHOW LOVELY GREEN CLEAVEAGE.
I am going to ask Zero to lecture you guys about fashion, and that you do NOT give a girl FAKE PRADA.

4. Wheres the cape? Why is there no cape? NPC's have a cape, how come I don't have a cape?

5. What happened tot he back armor detail? Why is it missing?

6. I heard the helmet is an issue right now. I can accpt that, but I hope what ever the hold up there gets fixed soon..
to denote rank for some reason. KDF side we just have our sashes.

7. Lack of seperate costume pieces wearabe with other existing costume pieces.

Mental picture time.. Think tall stately orion female, medium green skin, platinum hair in a Vulcan style short do. Eye patch, (look at the avatar) Orion strapped top in silver and black, Honor Guard neck armor, Life time pauldrons (bright gold, Bright white base, black, red strapiing) KDF Honor Guard gauntlets (option to have gloves or bare hands with them) Metal belt and garter again silver over black. BARE LEGS! KDF Honor Guard boots and. Tri foil cape to finish off the picture.

A vision of 25th century barbaric space vikingly orion decadant splendor.

This is what I as a player expect to be able to do.

SO, umm, how soon can I do this? I'd sure like to see all of this fixed up before F2P happens. It's the sort of thing that draws customers to stik around you know.

Khemaraa sends.

.................... edit............ after some photshop magic..(not very good with it, but its 'nuff to get the idea..)

now if I could just use elements of the honor guard uniform with.

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac46/tlroff/Startrek%20Online/WhatIwanttosee.jpg

Stock Orion, Stock Honor Guard, Not so stock utter coolness
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Oh I agree with all of this, the Honor Guard and other sets need to be compatible with other armors. And the XI sets need to look better...considering the time it takes to get them, they should at least have the cape and armor...maybe not the helmet.

    I dont think ill ever have a shot at the elite STFs because I just dont have the mental willpower to sit through an hour long STF with no guarantee of getting anything....and no guarantee of actually finishing it, people do bail on you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Hey Morgomir;

    it doesn't take that long per run.. Average time per run is about 15 to 20 min.. I did 3/4 of the runs as space STF's the rest were mostly infected ground. I wasn't realy trying for the tech drops.. Out of 134 runs I got exactly one "Common Borg Engine Technology" token.. A total of 145 EDC's and 23 rare borg Salvage.. Your thinking of the original STF's.. The remastered mission tage significantly less time per run.


    Right around 40 total hours running STF's to get the set. I got the assimlated borg engine, scanner, and shields from running them also from trading in 5 EDC's per piece. The KDF Honor Guard Mk XI set is 40 EDC per piece.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    I wasn't realy trying for the tech drops.. Out of 134 runs I got exactly one "Common Borg Engine Technology" token.. A total of 145 EDC's and 23 rare borg Salvage..

    Yeah... they really need to do something about that drop rate.

    I was strangely looking forward to that cape too... I was also considering rolling a female Klingon toon so I could see some Duras' sisters style cleavage, too. Now I'll wait until they patch it, I suppose.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Agree completely with all your points.
    In fact I find the fake cleavage totally unacceptable.
    For those of us who play with female characters without standard color the set is COMPLETELY RUINED because of this. :(

    And the costume options must be customizable and able to mix and match with other uniforms.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    editted my reply post up there with an image of the uniform.. used dark burgandy an tan colors in the customization.. Kui is standing there with the honor guard Mk XI weapon also..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Hey Morgomir;

    it doesn't take that long per run.. Average time per run is about 15 to 20 min.. I did 3/4 of the runs as space STF's the rest were mostly infected ground. I wasn't realy trying for the tech drops.. Out of 134 runs I got exactly one "Common Borg Engine Technology" token.. A total of 145 EDC's and 23 rare borg Salvage.. Your thinking of the original STF's.. The remastered mission tage significantly less time per run.


    Right around 40 total hours running STF's to get the set. I got the assimlated borg engine, scanner, and shields from running them also from trading in 5 EDC's per piece. The KDF Honor Guard Mk XI set is 40 EDC per piece.

    Yes I know the normal STFs dont take that long, but I was talking about doing the elite STFs for the XII gear with a non premade group...it can take 30+ minutes at least....but it depends on who you are with. I am more of a casual player however, and seeing as how the elite STFs have completely random drops...could take 1-10 or more runs just to get any tech drops....it just doesnt seem worth doing.

    But the worst part is, you have to have all 3 pieces of the set to unlock the armor visuals. Which is dumb to me, you get the gun and you get the gun visuals, but if you get the armor, you have to have the whole set to unlock it? It just seems dumb to me, I should have got the gun first, I mistakenly bought the armor first.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    editted my reply post up there with an image of the uniform.. used dark burgandy an tan colors in the customization.. Kui is standing there with the honor guard Mk XI weapon also..
    That's the entire mark XI costume?

    Where's the fur? Where's the cape? I thought just the helmet was MK XII only.
    Not gonna waste any ECD on this unless they spice it up a little.

    At least give me the fur and the cape. I don't care about the helmet.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    afraaiid so.. for the Mk XI unlocks what you see is what I got.. I've seen some male toons running about and its pretty much the same story. The armpr pieces on the upper arms aren't there., the spine armor (or what ever it is) is missing. the cross belts/chest sutaway piece. The fur piece over the pauldrons, and of course the cape.

    I understand the feddy MACO set is missing its pauldrons, and that the Omega set is also short some elements.

    ...honestly I spent about 40 hours of running STF's and I seriously feel like I got robbed of my reward.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    majQa' , translates Well Done!

    Congratulations, that is a great achievement. It takes a real gamer to get that done so soon. For The Empire! :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    From what I understand, some of the pieces are unlocked via the mark XII set. I think the helmet falls into this category.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    the klingon in the header is ;

    female

    wearing the honor guard set

    how can you tell she is in fact , she ?

    visable cleavage.

    I expect this will be fixed probally the same time the art dept. gets the female shoulder guards to scale properly, so female klingons do not look like linebackers for the NFL.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Huh... Mk XI only has partial costume?

    What a ripoff!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Huh... Mk XI only has partial costume?

    What a ripoff!

    No joke, its not a huge deal that its missing the helmet...but missing the arm pads and cape too?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Also the chest detail.
    Cleavage for female characters and sash for male.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Alexraptor wrote: »
    Also the chest detail.
    Cleavage for female characters and sash for male.

    Yeah it should definately at least have the sash and cleavage.....sheesh!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    im 2/3 of the way through my honour guard set and it sounds like a waste of time. half the stuff is not there by the sounds of it. i can live without the helmet even if it looks sweet, and maybe the cape but it sounds like half of the actual armour is not there either. its feels like ive been grinding like crazy and its becoming soul crushing.

    *sigh*. i hate complaining but for god sake doing 120 task forces is more than most people will ever do. how hard does it have to be? im not sure if ill even bother going for the MACO or Omega at this rate and im not even going to think about trying to get this stuff for different characters.

    i understand the idea that the mkii gear is meant to be the awesome and the person who gets it will feel epic and be one the the best players on the game, but thats a microscopic fraction of the playerbase. i feel the artist who made these pretty much wasted his time.

    sorry but not impressed at all with this.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    IMO they should give us the entire armor set.
    But leave the Helmet and Cape for the "Elite" version.

    And for gods sake let us mix and match the honor guard pieces with other costumes! PLEASE!
    I really do want to show off my Lifer badge or show off my veteran shoulders.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    im 2/3 of the way through my honour guard set and it sounds like a waste of time. half the stuff is not there by the sounds of it. i can live without the helmet even if it looks sweet, and maybe the cape but it sounds like half of the actual armour is not there either. its feels like ive been grinding like crazy and its becoming soul crushing.

    *sigh*. i hate complaining but for god sake doing 120 task forces is more than most people will ever do. how hard does it have to be? im not sure if ill even bother going for the MACO or Omega at this rate and im not even going to think about trying to get this stuff for different characters.

    i understand the idea that the mkii gear is meant to be the awesome and the person who gets it will feel epic and be one the the best players on the game, but thats a microscopic fraction of the playerbase. i feel the artist who made these pretty much wasted his time.

    sorry but not impressed at all with this.

    I find that the only thing Epic or Awesome about ANY of these sets , are the Visuals.

    As far as the Functionality is concerned, if I Actualy were an Officer of the KDF , I would have the Project Manager, Lead System Engineer, and System Designer , Shot , for " Treasonable actions against the Empire"

    Awesome visuals are MEANINGLESS , without Awesome FUNCTIONALIY .
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Gozer man!
    I DID IT. Kuiama del Solima got all 3 pieces of the MK XI KDF Honor Guard ground set. I aaalso got the rest of the retro Assimlated Borg set on my ship.. Gonna work on getting the Mk XI ship set now.. 124 STF runs so far, and I haven't even touched the elite stuff.

    I doubt if I was the first KDF to do it, but I haven't seen aanyone so far running around in the honor guard uniform. I suspect I know why. Its incomplete. But I am really hidiously dissapointed with the look of the armor and I got some issues. Art dept type issues..





    3. Female toon, see avatar? Orion female toon.. NO CLEAVAGE!!!!! 134 STF's after the built went live,
    Hours aapon hours of time..family irritated with grandpa here because grandpa is playing STO while watching grand daughters, and MY KUI DOESN"T GET TO SHOW LOVELY GREEN CLEAVEAGE.
    I am going to ask Zero to lecture you guys about fashion, and that you do NOT give a girl FAKE PRADA.

    4. Wheres the cape? Why is there no cape? NPC's have a cape, how come I don't have a cape?

    5. What happened tot he back armor detail? Why is it missing?

    6. I heard the helmet is an issue right now. I can accpt that, but I hope what ever the hold up there gets fixed soon..
    to denote rank for some reason. KDF side we just have our sashes.

    First Off... Congrats on the sets... :)

    Second...

    Cleavage... Capes.... Helmets... Sash... and Back Detail are all part of the Mark XII unlock.... :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Umm the complete Klingon set gives you a Free Hypo power with unlimited uses that does not share cooldown with normal hypo's.
    It also gives you a built in insta-remodulate power which can augment the standard lenghty one or free up another slot for another device.
    And finally, you get boosted hitpoints AND +25% melee damage.

    I would say thats pretty good functionality, and probally the "best" Melee equipment out there.(set effect still works if you use Bat'leth, as long as the gun is in the other slot)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Cleavage... Capes.... Helmets... Sash... and Back Detail are all part of the Mark XII unlock.... :)

    and therefore "Elite"...
    can you say "DOH!"?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    First Off... Congrats on the sets... :)

    Second...

    Cleavage... Capes.... Helmets... Sash... and Back Detail are all part of the Mark XII unlock.... :)

    Which you have made virtually unobtainable. :(

    Oh and please let us mix and match parts like Collar, Wrist attachments, shoulder guards, boots etc, with other outfits.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Alexraptor wrote: »
    Which you have made virtually unobtainable. :(

    Oh and please let us mix and match parts like Collar, Wrist attachments, shoulder guards, boots etc, with other outfits.

    So what *does* the Mk XI outfit look like for Honor Guard? ... Anyone have a screen picture?

    And a note to say that really should be clarified in the descriptino somewhere as many people are thinking the get what we see on that image tweet leaked several weeks back.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    This is what the Boring Veteran Honor Guard outfit looks like. :(
    http://startrek.alexraptor.com/images/STFHGveteran.jpg

    Please Gozer, consider a compromise.
    Include all the attachments but leave the Cape and Helmet as Elite rewards.
    The costume should at least somwhat resemble what the NPC's are showcasing.

    And let us customize it with our own rank sashes and badges and shoulders, etc.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    showing them in full kit on esd as advertising was a "bait and switch"

    Here is what you can have

    ohhhh shiney me wants

    <later>

    What?! I have to run a lottery to get the full visuals over and over possibly taking jsut a week or even a year

    scammed!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Alexraptor wrote: »
    Umm the complete Klingon set gives you a Free Hypo power with unlimited uses that does not share cooldown with normal hypo's.
    It also gives you a built in insta-remodulate power which can augment the standard lenghty one or free up another slot for another device.
    And finally, you get boosted hitpoints AND +25% melee damage.

    I would say thats pretty good functionality, and probally the "best" Melee equipment out there.(set effect still works if you use Bat'leth, as long as the gun is in the other slot)

    The "Free Hypo" you refer to is the proc " HPP ".

    HPP is a 7.5% chance of +19 hit points , Twice.
    Not "Unlimited"
    HPP was Never on the Hypo cool down.

    +25% melee dmg is a Wopping 8 points.

    Melee is 50% through sheilds, the same as grenades.
    Grenades count as " kinetic "

    My photon grenade III from my kit is 283 dmg.

    Yes , it is the best melee weapon out there, at 50% through sheilds.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    ProfHat wrote:
    The "Free Hypo" you refer to is the proc " HPP ".

    HPP is a 7.5% chance of +19 hit points , Twice.
    Not "Unlimited"
    HPP was Never on the Hypo cool down.

    +25% melee dmg is a Wopping 8 points.

    Melee is 50% through sheilds, the same as grenades.
    Grenades count as " kinetic "

    My photon grenade III from my kit is 283 dmg.

    Yes , it is the best melee weapon out there, at 50% through sheilds.

    Nope, the set effect with 2/3 pieces is an "Adrenal Booster" that heals +304 hitpoints and increases melee Damage by %40 for 5 seconds, while breaking any holds and stuns.
    It has a cooldown of 30 seconds.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    First Off... Congrats on the sets... :)

    Second...

    Cleavage... Capes.... Helmets... Sash... and Back Detail are all part of the Mark XII unlock.... :)

    In that case, could you pleeeeeeeeeeeaase look at fixing the collar piece so that it doesn't clip through the shoulderpads on the MkXI armor? I'm not sure if it does that for male toons, but it sure does for females. :(

    I tried every possible combination of body sliders to fix it (no shoulders, skiiiiiiiny arms, narrow shoulders, no bust, etc.), and nothing seemed to do it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    First Off... Congrats on the sets... :)

    Second...

    Cleavage... Capes.... Helmets... Sash... and Back Detail are all part of the Mark XII unlock.... :)

    Uh...yeah people know that. Looks like you missed the point, or are choosing to ignore the point of this thread.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    ...family irritated with grandpa here because grandpa is playing STO while watching grand daughters, and MY KUI DOESN"T GET TO SHOW LOVELY GREEN CLEAVEAGE.

    I'm sorry, but... did anyone else read this line?

    You sir are the best grandpa evar. With an "a".
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