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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Good to see you back roach.

    Very much so.

    IMO the Raptor needs a little umpf somewhere. Whether it is BC, BO arrangement, or something but I though it was a bit soft.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Roach wrote: »
    Thanks. Glad to be back.

    It's good to see you again.
    I was worried we'd lost you permanently.

    Anyway DStahl said we'd get a mix of new skins and new ships.
    Maybe a decent Raptor variant will be among them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    That reminds me I need to work on my sketch of a BoP/Raptor MVAM. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    mister_dee wrote:
    It's good to see you again.
    I was worried we'd lost you permanently.
    As was I.
    Anyway DStahl said we'd get a mix of new skins and new ships.
    Maybe a decent Raptor variant will be among them.
    Do you have a link or something?
    Sounds great and I hope so for the raptor love - as well possibly the BoP in light of recent new ships on the scene. Might be time to look it over again and maybe bring it up to base par.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Roach wrote: »
    Do you have a link or something?
    Sounds great and I hope so for the raptor love - as well possibly the BoP in light of recent new ships on the scene. Might be time to look it over again and maybe bring it up to base par.

    http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2370

    Last answer at the bottom.
    A: First we are looking at filling in the gaps in the KDF ship line so that there are appropriate class ships at each rank. Secondly we do have a goal to have variants of each ship eventually. For Season 4 you might see a small mixture of both, but no firm confirmation on exactly what yet (other than I can say I’ve seen a BOP variant near completion). As we get closer to Season 4 launch I can start talking about what is going to make the cut and what will come later.

    So we do seem to get a mix of new ships and additional skins (at least that's the way I interepret the term "variant" in the context ot this answer).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    mister_dee wrote:
    http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2370

    Last answer at the bottom.



    So we do seem to get a mix of new ships and additional skins (at least that's the way I interepret the term "variant" in the context ot this answer).

    I am hoping that this is the case...I mean after all...almost every Klingon ship I have come across does look the same...It kinda reminds me of when Japanese cars first arrived in America...they all...looked the same...well, not quite...at least those you could get in a different paint-job....lol :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I am hoping that this is the case...I mean after all...almost every Klingon ship I have come across does look the same...It kinda reminds me of when Japanese cars first arrived in America...they all...looked the same...well, not quite...at least those you could get in a different paint-job....lol :rolleyes:

    Honestly, I hope so as well. SOme more modernistic designs ( and maybe some player created concepts?)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Aoav160 wrote: »
    IMO the Raptor needs a little umpf somewhere. Whether it is BC, BO arrangement, or something but I though it was a bit soft.

    You think so?

    My latest KDF character went Raptor, and all the way through mid-captain I'm finding this to be one tough little ship. My damage output is easily on par with my BoP captain's (well in excess of 200K damage done in my last PvP match) but feels more durable, both in shields and hull strength.

    I actually feel like I survive more in it (a fact I find odd, since I made very good use of battle-cloak on the BoP and thought that nothing would out-survive that). In PvE I'm finding it just as easy to solo as the BoP and naturally easier than my cruiser. I'm a fan for sure.

    What specifically made you feel like it was soft, and in comparison to what?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    What specifically made you feel like it was soft, and in comparison to what?

    Starbases...?

    Just kidding.
    I'm leveling a liberated Borg Engineer on a Raptor and I intend to keep the Raptor.
    It feels tougher than the Fedration escorts I played at similar levels though I admit this might be
    due to the fact I'm leveling an Engineer and not a Tac as well.
    People will probably laugh at my config (DBBs, BAs and Photons) but I think the ships gives
    a very interesting gameplay.

    But I'd nontheless not mind some alternate BO layouts, one with a LtC Engineer would be quite handy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    mister_dee wrote:
    Starbases...?

    Just kidding.
    I'm leveling a liberated Borg Engineer on a Raptor and I intend to keep the Raptor.
    It feels tougher than the Fedration escorts I played at similar levels though I admit this might be
    due to the fact I'm leveling an Engineer and not a Tac as well.
    People will probably laugh at my config (DBBs, BAs and Photons) but I think the ships gives
    a very interesting gameplay.

    But I'd nontheless not mind some alternate BO layouts, one with a LtC Engineer would be quite handy.

    I don't know about laughing, DBB is pretty popular (I'm running three in the fore right now). I come up on top damage in PvP, making good use of Beam Overload for single targets (with a very satisfying boom to make me think I made the right choice) and Beam FAW which seems to be the flavour of the month for everyone.

    If I want to play with cannons I'll just hop back in my BoP. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I don't know about laughing, DBB is pretty popular (I'm running three in the fore right now). I come up on top damage in PvP, making good use of Beam Overload for single targets (with a very satisfying boom to make me think I made the right choice) and Beam FAW which seems to be the flavour of the month for everyone.

    If I want to play with cannons I'll just hop back in my BoP. ;)

    It's certainly encouraging to know I did not make a totally useless choice, which was irrespective of FAW btw.
    Thanks.:)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I don't know about laughing, DBB is pretty popular (I'm running three in the fore right now). I come up on top damage in PvP, making good use of Beam Overload for single targets (with a very satisfying boom to make me think I made the right choice) and Beam FAW which seems to be the flavour of the month for everyone.

    If I want to play with cannons I'll just hop back in my BoP. ;)

    I still am using cannons w/ a DBB on my raptor.....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I still am using cannons w/ a DBB on my raptor.....

    2DHCs / DBB / Torpedo. Its the classic loadout.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Roach wrote: »
    2DHCs / DBB / Torpedo. Its the classic loadout.

    Excellent loadout for a Defiant-R, as well. I use it on both my Raptor and Def-R. :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Roach wrote: »
    2DHCs / DBB / Torpedo. Its the classic loadout.

    I use a Tricobalt on my tail soz I have 3 HC/1DBB up front. 2 turrets in the rear w/ the tricobalt.
    If I come in and see someone w/ a shield facing down, I come in and shoot that side...lol...sneaky tricks are always the best. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    atemporal wrote: »
    Excellent loadout for a Defiant-R, as well. I use it on both my Raptor and Def-R. :P
    No reason to fix what already works. :)
    I use a Tricobalt on my tail soz I have 3 HC/1DBB up front. 2 turrets in the rear w/ the tricobalt.
    If I come in and see someone w/ a shield facing down, I come in and shoot that side...lol...sneaky tricks are always the best. :)
    That nasty sit-n-spin reversal to let that Tric float in for a kill can be quite a surprise.:)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Roach wrote: »
    No reason to fix what already works. :)

    That nasty sit-n-spin reversal to let that Tric float in for a kill can be quite a surprise.:)

    Why else do you think I use it?....It reminds me of a line the French soldier uses in Monty Python's Holy Grail movie...about doing something ina one's general direction...lol....Klingon ones can be deadly...lolz. :eek: :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Azurian wrote: »
    Well with all the love Federation ships are getting to even up with Imperial warships, what love should the Raptor Get?


    Turn-Rate Booster?

    More Damage?

    Better Armor?

    Universal Ensign Slot?

    A Beam Lance?

    The Raptor is already sexy as hell, but still I wouldn't mind seeing some more skins.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Roach wrote: »
    No reason to fix what already works. :)

    That nasty sit-n-spin reversal to let that Tric float in for a kill can be quite a surprise.:)


    Here is a nasty surprise. When ever you see a ship sitting still on a cap point get with in 7km buff up APA, APO, GDF, FOMM, CRF, TT, Tac Fleet, decloak you should be about 1km off and once you are almost on top of the ship drop the tric. 50-75K crit through shields. It is good times I have killed Sci ships and cruisers galore with this tactic. I have even been lucky with trics against BFaW boats if you are practically at 0km
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Here is a nasty surprise. When ever you see a ship sitting still on a cap point get with in 7km buff up APA, APO, GDF, FOMM, CRF, TT, Tac Fleet, decloak you should be about 1km off and once you are almost on top of the ship drop the tric. 50-75K crit through shields. It is good times I have killed Sci ships and cruisers galore with this tactic. I have even been lucky with trics against BFaW boats if you are practically at 0km

    The buff up, drop cloak, and smoke 'em routine's an oldy but a goody. I think another raptor at T5 with an ensign engineering slot as opposed to the tactical one would be pretty useful.

    I may have to get a DBB, since when I go for joyrides in my Raptor (I still prefer the Negh'var, and also the Vor'cha), I find with 3DHCs and a torpedo that you can't buff (tricobalt), I've got a wasted ensign slot as it stands now. Even without being specced into Raptors though, the ammount of damage on tap is obscene.
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