Arc Integration General Discussion/Feedback

JYUUU - Harshlands wrote: »

Just **** quit then, no one gives a **? All we see are nubs bitchin for something u have to use once a week for an update. You ******* always have a reason to QQ about. Just get over it & quit, lowbie not even dropping 1 cent in the game are always the one complaining.

It is replies such as this that aid PWE in killing this game even faster. Do you even realize that in order for this game to have any reason for anyone to play still, it takes the heavy cash payers, the true free players, and everything in between? It is a balance of the 2 extreme ends of, cash payers and true free players, that keeps this game alive at all. If the true free players just "****ing quit", like you believe you would like, there would be no game to **** about.

JYUUU - Harshlands wrote: »

All we see are nubs bitchin for something u have to use once a week for an update.

And if you have been reading the entire thread, as of April 2nd, no... You do NOT just use ARC once a week anymore to update, it will become mandatory to have running in order to play. The game in and of itself is laggy enough without running ARC to play it.

Now, if PWE/ARC has been making tweaks in the background programming somehow so that ARC will run the game smoother than it has been running since the New Horizons expansion, that would be GREAT! But given PWE's record on the way they go about everything, I am quite sure this would be delusional to think it is the case. IF it is the case (sparkie, rest of sentence for you ), it would be VERY wise to let us know.

JYUUU - Harshlands wrote: »

Just get over it & quit, lowbie not even dropping 1 cent in the game are always the one complaining.

Actually... the ones doing the most b!tching are the people that spent a lot of $ relative to what they earn at their jobs. The ones doing the most b!tching are the ones that know they are paying WAY more than they really should compared to any other game...

Not the ones that spend nothing, those are the people laughing because they didnt spend an ****ing cent. So learn who it is that doing the b!tching nob nub b:shutup b:bye

I hope you guys have the DQ point replacement ready to roll out.

Time to start packing my stuf b:cry

If Arc really prohibits dual clienting still, I'll be out in less than a week. The countless dailies are a strain already and with one client... yea **** it. I'd rather kill some Great Warhogs full time.

Devilskarma - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well, maybe...

Me, Im just not spending a penny on march 28th... and ill wait to see what april 4th looks like after nw, before throwing anything into this game at this point. I "had" plans to build my toon

I have already deleted my misc toons and will delete the rest once i have all the tradable gear items and coins put in the faction bank that i have not already promised to others. So sometime this weekend. Also already resigned as Marshall of Marine. It was just a matter of time. I just got my laptop back just to see I wont be able to play this game anymore.

I hope PWE and their parent company in China are proud of themselves

TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »

How about the fact that most people cant dual client using it....which means that they cant play and have a cat shop open?

It wouldn't surprise me if this was partially a measure to prevent people abusing multi clienting. Right now I don't think (though I could be wrong, as I haven't been paying a lot of attention to the forums for the last few months) they really have any way of enforcing their multiclienting rules, short of threatening to ban people who break them.

JYUUU - Harshlands wrote: »

Just **** quit then, no one gives a **? All we see are nubs bitchin for something u have to use once a week for an update. You ******* always have a reason to QQ about. Just get over it & quit, lowbie not even dropping 1 cent in the game are always the one complaining.

lol,
I used too be one who spent between $20-$100 dollars US every month in this game for about 5 years, but being a computer minimalist, I refuse to run any unneeded frontends such as Steam, Arc or any other gaming frontend, some may say that in some ways I am nerfing my own ability to play some games online, but I see it as they just do not want my money, and because their usage statistics come from the net they have no way to accurately work out how much income they are really missing out on from us computer minimalists.

In some ways I am glad you are doing this, since I decided to leave and take my money with me, my gaming now actually costs me less in total $15/month and I do not have to use your unneeded software to play, thank god.

If you are still having problems understanding where I am coming from think about it like this:

When some people buy cars they want all the addons that are available for that model including Fuzzy dice on the rearview mirror, CB radio, Bullbar and Fox tails on the radio aerial as well, but some of us think that all that stuff is just garish rubbish and just want a plain no options car.

At least car manufacturers are smart enough to recognize this and give us the choice, plus when a newer model with a different body shape comes out they do not immediately cease to offer the old models and support for the old models as well.

I actually love Arc its introduction has saved me a lot of money since I have stopped playing PWI, I did dream of coming back if Arc remained optional, but this has just put the nail in the coffin for me.

Goodbye and goodluck to all the wonderful players I met in this game, I may keep an eye on the forums still, but am unlikely to post again unless PWI does the seeming impossible thing and actually thinks about it.
b:sadb:bye

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

See this is just one of the stupidest things.

You're completely giving up because you will have to download an extra program that will use about 3% maximum system resources (and we're going on the minimum system requirements to enjoy the game, to to actually play it) and in the long run will actually provide you with better services that they PWE sites have so far.

God forbid you might have to re-download 8GB of data again. (Though by the time they force it, I'm pretty positive that that issue, along with a couple of other issues will be resolved. It's a known fact that the abilities are already being developed.)

If it's going to take something that small to make you give up, be gone already. You should have left a couple of years ago. Talk about a complete failure. In this instance, it isn't Arc.


And just to re-iterate, if your system can barely play the game, or if your internet sucks so bad that you have trouble just downloading a client, give up and go play outside.
All you will ever accomplish is frustrating yourself and those around you by expecting to get something out of a pile of ****. It's your pile, deal with it. You don't like it, upgrade or find something that better suits what you have. Leisure Suit Larry still works great on a lot of those systems, and it wouldn't surprise me if it were available on Steam for you.
Oh, wait.....
If you can't run Arc, you most definitely can't run Steam.

Seriously guys. grow up already.

Sylen, you're one of the few people on this forum that should know by now that common sense doesn't work around here, only rage and MUH CHANGE IS BAD works. And threatening to quit.

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

If Arc really prohibits dual clienting still, I'll be out in less than a week. The countless dailies are a strain already and with one client... yea **** it. I'd rather kill some Great Warhogs full time.

This is pretty much me atm. I wouldn't mind DLing and using it, but unfortunately, if I can't multi-client, it will impact how I play the game too much.

seitori wrote: »

Wish i could say anything positive about this, but I can't >>> b:sweat


I wonder if any heads are gonna finally roll within PWE's board member rankings over this, or if they're still just gonna blindly let Bad Administrative decisions from ill-advised members with to much interests (as in not Healthy or advised) in the ARC company, keep ruining the player bases happiness until everyone just ditches PWE until they finally go belly up?? ? b:puzzled

"Seriously now Big Wigs of PWEs board, when other companies have 'officers of the board' that are making this many continuously ill-begotten choices that are constantly alienating the vast majority of ones own clientele base (inspite of the clienteles obvious distressed protests of all of it) the other companies are usually beginning to ask for or just simply demanding the resignations of those who've been deliberately sabotaging & risking everything that the said company still has to offer (with those Ill-begotten decisions) before they continue to ruin it to the point of no return..." b:embarrass

Unlike many, I'll still try to stay on after this, but may I suggest you finally get your acts together, because you're obviously gonna be losing alot of people because of this (perhaps too many)...

Im guessing that as long as they have a handful of peeps left willing to give them 15K+ or more for the next new gears release, they will be okay with everyone leaving. Just think of the profit! Will only need 1 server to maintain for the same if not more income. Need cash - release higher priced gears every 3 to 6 months. Could be a win-win for them. Might even see a GM on their 1 server from time to time again. Last one I remember seeing was Bearclaw, and that was only once.

Respin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I love how we're being completely ignored now. b:victory

But, ARC will be good for the people who own PWI. It's a way to gather user information. Everything you look up on the browser? Sold as information to third parties. This is how the internet makes money, and PWI wants a part of it. Even things not on the browser are going to be logged and sold.

We can scream until we're blue in the face, PWI won't notice. All they're seeing is dollar signs in front of them.

It's not good for us, but makes money for them. We'll be ignored forever.

A little snipit from the top of the Arc page.

"This site uses cookies to improve your browsing experience. By continuing to browse Arc Games you are agreeing to use our cookies."


In other words....ACCEPT OUR COOKIES AND MAKE US MONEY OR DIE!!!!!!!

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

See this is just one of the stupidest things.

You're completely giving up because you will have to download an extra program that will use about 3% maximum system resources (and we're going on the minimum system requirements to enjoy the game, to to actually play it) and in the long run will actually provide you with better services that they PWE sites have so far.

If it's going to take something that small to make you give up, be gone already. You should have left a couple of years ago. Talk about a complete failure. In this instance, it isn't Arc.

Oh, wait.....
If you can't run Arc, you most definitely can't run Steam.

Seriously guys. grow up already.

Arc will not run on my computer. If that makes me stupid, then I guess I am stupid. I have never bothered to install steam because I don't need it and i don't buy games from there. Why download something I don't need? There are no extra or even better services that Arc gives that we do already have.

I am not giving up, PWE if forcing me to. It is not my failure its theirs.

Comparing one release platform is beyond fail

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

Arc will not run on my computer. If that makes me stupid, then I guess I am stupid. I have never bothered to install steam because I don't need it and i don't buy games from there. Why download something I don't need? There are no extra or even better services that Arc gives that we do already have.

I am not giving up, PWE if forcing me to. It is not my failure its theirs.

Sorry to see you go Salari...and sad that you wont be the last to go either. Take care in all your endeavors. b:bye

SakuLv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I dont like torrent download anyways. Most of those stuff are not legal and are already closed by FBI or w.e

Torrent files/programs in and of themselves are not illegal. It's only illegal if you're using the torrents to download/upload material that infringes copyright. There is nothing illegal about it when a game publisher distributes its games via torrent.

Torrenting sites, on the other hand, often do contain material that isn't authorized for sharing. Those are what tend to get closed.

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

The real question then would be WHY won't Arc run on your computer.

Because truly, if you've got the specs to play the game, you've got the specs to run Arc. (Unless maybe you're one of those that insists on using a system without a mainstream OS to play games designed for a mainstream OS. I like Linux and all, but I'll never have it as my main system because I like for the popular stuff to actually work.) In which case, again, it's on you, not PWE. They didn't force you to play on an un-supported platform.

If you had any real programming experience you would know the problems between software and hardware compatibility that date to the dawn of computing. There is no magical API that will work on all hardware.

I had the very same problems with another game launcher. It would run on one computer and would not run on another. In that specific instance they used an obscure API within WMI that would break on some hardware because it was not fully implemented for all hardware. It is a known issue that has been around for a while and there are work around's but most just further complicate the issue. This same issue is not only in games but other types of software.

You act like this is something new. There are plenty of posts of people that cant get Arc to run on their computer and I bet the issue is tied to the same problem. Comparing the specs of a nearly outdated game engine to newly written software is pretty poor on your part and I would expect a bit more from you.