Clerics. What pisses you guys off or annoys you when your in a squad?

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Those are much better options than just helping them pickup coins so the squad benefits, too... Especially since you get a share of the coin they've picked up for you.

You can go into details what BH one talks about, but what i try to explain is that yes money = time, espescially when its about a boring job like picking up coins, waiting for a cleric who is doing it or dying because the cleric is doing it. And many people are much more happy finishing their instance 3 minutes faster than getting an extra 5000 coins out of that instance that this wonderfull cleric picked up for us. And that is a perfectly logical choise.

Sure pick up some things, i do so myself when the time and opportunity is there, but dont let your squad wait for it because indeed if it costs time for everyone, it is often a pretty bad investment of time.

sargana wrote: »

The most annoying thing that I hear is ...aww my charm is ticking!!! What do you think that my healing cost or my BB?? yes surprise surprise it cost MANA. So pls don't whine about your charm cuz by healing you we use ours.

those that were about every other sentance nagging about possible charm ticks....
I just stopped healing before my charm was about to tick.
one or two deaths later they have left the squad or learned not to nag.

clerics use charms like every other class and also for us the price is the same as for Barbs or whatever. We use charms and I also use herbs to not let my charm tick but for example in Delta..if someone dies..revive..buff again give full health and fast going back to BB THAT cost a lot of mana and you forget herb because you are in a hurry to save everyone so yeah charms ticks..and do you hear me about that while i heal? no. Because you make a class and stand behind what you do and that means also the cost to keep you or in my case others alive.

I consider it my job to keep the charm from ticking when on cleric.

Someone told me one day that:

''A good cleric will keep you alive, a great cleric will save your charm.''

Which I totally agree with, am I perfect? No, but I don't wait to see people charm tick to start heal, I stack IH to prevent their charm to tick, while a bunch of cleric start to heal AFTER the charm tick or when see ONE person hp low use chromatic which is so slow cast that the charm tick before the person got the heal.

Clerics need to stop chromatic when there's only ONE person that need heal, drop a wellspring then IH the person that need it.

folks out of bb range,toons that let the healer get damage whilst in bb,bm that steam off in to the distance and die but then ask were I was and why I did not heal em,by the way if I got a mob giving me agro im gona look after my self ! if u die its rez rez if I die its back to town and then a long run to catch up wiv u and I lose exp, 2nd healer in a group who don't res me,and finaly folks that run off at the start and don't wait for me to buff em:angry lvl 80 cleric

When there is another cleric in squad, and you're doing all the healing, purifying, ressing, etc while the other one dds (poorly at that), and he doesn't even use elemental/dimensional seal.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Oh my gosh same, I don't care to be the healer, but pls pls the second cleric should keep the boss always debuff without being asked.

I did ask, that's the sad thing.

XSonOfCircex - Sanctuary wrote: »

I did ask, that's the sad thing.

Well that was something that was happening more in casters for me, cause usually if I'm not in BB I can debuff, but in casters when I was in BB and the other wasn't debuff that was like ... zzzz -.-.

-.- Other clerics who BB instead of purify person who needs it

Clerics whom don't answer when you ask them whether they want to heal or DD..

Awwww mannnnnn. There are quite a few (from my own personal experience or from friends that were clerics and I had the displeasure of seeing them going through ****). First one, which a few of you already mentioned, the constant nagging of "rez". I see you dangit, I know to rez. Another, "purify", as if I don't see you need it and don't know the skill -.-. Oh, and my fav, "heal cleric". I know you need healing, but it's kind of hard when I'm dying myself while trying to heal several other people in squad. One thing I've gotten used to (more so from adaptation) is aggro sharing. I don't mind when some OP DDs take aggro from tank, but I don't like it when they complain that you need to make it your business to figure out when they're stolen aggro and you need to heal them instead of the assigned tank (barb in squad, most would automatically assume he's tank unless a higher lvl is in squad). Sometimes it does bother me when everyone runs off when I start group buffing, because they're usually the ones spam requesting buffs even though I just used up a whopping amount of my mana to do group buffs. And the worst part of all that bothers me to no end is when people let me or other clerics in squad die. Sometimes I know the risk and will heal the squad even though I know I'll get aggro, but I feel it's worth saving them because they can possibly save me in turn (if they don't, well I knew the risk. if they can then yay!). But there are the other times, which some of you already pointed out, where they call for a heal, don't have aggro all the way on other mobs they've aggroed, and you heal and get killed because they not only fail to get the mobs but don't even bother to aoe to try to get mobs off of you. And I hate it when they try to blame you as the cleric for why it happened. I didn't aggro the mobs >.<, so why blame the poor healer who tried to save your romp in the process of killing ours? And here's my all time favorite..."We don't need a cleric 'cause we're pro without them", and keep in mind this is after they've spammed Worldchat for one, got them in squad, used their buffs and heals, and had the audacity to say such a buffoon statement. I literally stopped healing a barb once after he said that until he apologized. Okay, now I'm done ranting.

Korpinsulka - Raging Tide wrote: »

" Oh you're a demon cleric, I guess you can't heal then. "

" Ain't demon clerics DDs? "

Lol, same thread going on in the barb forums. Sage hp buff is better (both are 35%). You're demon? You must be aps. Demon barbs can't pull... Ignorance is fun, isn't it?

Demon clerics have tons of healing advantages, just our IH is slightly weaker (adds a refine to weapon, k, now we're even).

What can **** me off is when a cleric stops healing me 2 DD its like yes im at full HP no but in 3sec when boss hits me again i will need to heal again.

NzPanda - Archosaur wrote: »

What can **** me off is when a cleric stops healing me 2 DD its like yes im at full HP no but in 3sec when boss hits me again i will need to heal again.

Once you are maxxed stacked, there is no reason to keep healing you and a cleric would do better to debuff, perhaps DD a little bit, to minimize the total damage done to you over time. They can do that for a couple seconds or so, before they should go back to healing. If you cannot handle being almost maxed out in your heal stacks, then your gear is bad or you're doing something wrong. You shouldn't need a cleric to continuously, non-stop heal you. They should have time (in the majority of instances) to throw in a debuff, or a plumeshot/cyclone. Complaining about 3 seconds shows me there may be something on your end. IT would be another thing entirely if they wait until your almost dead to start healing you again, but 3 seconds? :P

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lol, same thread going on in the barb forums. Sage hp buff is better (both are 35%). You're demon? You must be aps. Demon barbs can't pull... Ignorance is fun, isn't it?

Demon clerics have tons of healing advantages, just our IH is slightly weaker (adds a refine to weapon, k, now we're even).

Two clerics in the exact same gear, the sage cleric will have a stronger IH. I think demon clerics bring plenty to the table and it's stupid to discount them. But refines are not a strength of going demon or sage, and a fair comparison would be to compare these culti's same geared. I personally think that demon clerics are better when are you just there to BB anyway, since they have a faster rez and bubble doesn't have a sage/demon verision. OFC in that situation YMMV since sage debuffs are more PVE oriented since they last longer. Demon clerics p.def buff is also stronger and comes packed inside a heal. Yada yada yada. I think the two cultis are pretty balanced, even if I personally prefer Sage.