Disable hypers in frost, yes, no or LV restricted?

if u disabled hypers in fcc or lvl restricted lots of ppl will not gonna continue playing and its hard enough to reach lvl 85

I voted for level restricted. Sick of hyper babies not knowing how to do things, not to mention it'll give Phoenix Valley at lower levels more of a reason to be used.

Level restricted 85+!

Level restricted 85+!

Baby needs love too! b:cute

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

theres only one big flaw with your suggestion, it would totaly make bh for warsong a totally unactive/deserted instance just like nirvana is now plus theres not enough 102s on each server to make warsong even worth running. if your saying to limit warsong from bh 100, then alot of players will be disgusted with that particular change. if you have a better idea on a different instance for bh 100 id like to hear what ya have in mind



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I agree with everything you said...I did Public quest for quite a few days not even hypering mobs down there...the quest itself cant be done by a person who cant get the quest...and the quest itself gives EXTREMELY good exp..its how I got from 60-80...I would find a good PQ squad, ussialy had a sin bm veno archer blahblahblah..cause im a cleric..and we would do PQ all day long :P

also, what they were saying "its a profit to a large protion of the player base" isnt true at all..its a profit to all the sins...-.- and the few bms and barbs that solo fc...its not a profit to the playerbase..its a profit to an OP class...people need T mats to get their G16, so either farm lunar and tt to sell mats or i guess they are SOL...thats how I got coins and still get coins.


Let us not forget how much of a profit AEU can be...free apo, and you get skills you can sell for coins..I sold a book for 20-25mil a few weeks back...so yea, there are WAY better ways to make coins...

ON my last note, ok fine...you don't want Hypers to be level caps? FINE...I would be happy if FC was level capped at 75 or 80 so no one can step their nooby little feet through the portal even if its manualy

LF hypers in fc b:laugh b:victory honestly itz good to hv plvl noobs around makes u appreciate ur skills n other good players around u.. b:pleased n they can alwayz learn be better so i want hypers in fc so i can get to 105 b:laugh

Yeah, I have no idea how to quote an edited version of my quote, so in response to Vanflyheight's responses:

"hypers should be lvl limited cause theres more to pwi than just running ff day in and day out and if you think that by putting hypers back to the original way before the update than you might as well ragequit and uninstall pwi completely. alot of us veterans of pwi are sick of all the powerlvled noobs that have totally taken over of how things are done in the game. i think it discourages ppl even more by not having things to challenge them. does it really matter how time consuming it is in pwi or is it cause your just so money hungry that you want to keep the powerlvling open for you to collect more income for yourself. there was more to money making than hypering ppl up. leveling slowly gives ya the chance to understand and knw entirely where and when to use our skills that will effect the squads that we join. every classes skill can be useful once ya know how to use em stead of choosing which ones to use and which other ones are useless. to me your a poor excuse for playing on here."


You confuse everything I had said. I said FF is a means to level yourself higher and then learn and develop skills. I never said that PWI was all about FF, it's just a means to get to end-game goals. I've been in the game since the get go, and I don't see an overload of "powerleveled noobs." In what ways have they taken over the game? Plus, I'm pretty sure quests under level 70 aren't that challenging... I don't know how you can assume that I am "money hungry" because I never have plvled for money. So please read carefully and don't make assumptions.

"learning how to execute certain skills at certain mobs and bosses can help a player learn alot from battling with the environment. its not just learning what skills do but rather also how they can be effective in every situation that you would come across. learning your class in pve gives the player an opportunity to develop their own personal and unique playstyle which is mostly possible in a pve environment stead of being dragged behind like some little kid who needs their parents help on everything. learning your class as a player is what makes the real fun out of it stead of being some idiot who got their way all the time by having some other high lvl give them something that they should of earned in the first place."

You're under the impression that everyone who plvls never bother to learn how to play their class, which is wrong. I'm saying I'd rather plevel to 80, and learn my class with a wide variety of skill options going into BH/quests/etc. This is a lot of player's "playstyle." Just because you take a huge stepping stone doesn't disqualify you from the capability of being skilled.

" can tell ya why ppl who have a 100+ toon can call or say who is fail and who isnt just by simply looking at their actions. id say its really unfair to have high lvls who worked over 4 years to get to where they are now and the plvled noobs get everything handed to them on a silver platter like they didnt have to work for it, but rather someone just gave it to em."

Times have changed, leveling is easier. Get over it. You're going to punish everyone because you're too stuck over yourself working hard? That's just selfish. A lot of the 100+ toons that have played for over 4 years worked hard, and the plvled noobs are characters they plvled themselves. So essentially, they worked hard to level themselves, not others.

"the only reason why those that have done all their quests and when they want to join in FF runs players reject them cause they have never been shown how FF is suppose to work and if you think that discourages them, think again. what really discourages them is when they have to stoop to your average plvled noob just so they can get onto the good stuff. its not cause they get discouraged from taking part in FF but rather those that arent willing to show them the ropes in which how an FF run is suppose to run. an ff run that runs smoothly and considers each of their members strengths and weaknesses."

I don't get what you mean by having to stoop down to a noob to get the good stuff? But I essentially was saying all the rest, guess I didn't make it clear enough.

"id say its a very good reason to make hypers lvl restricted cause it makes those that are beginners to not fully understand how the game is suppose to work and with the rise of powerlvling in FC, it has made more fail noobs than i could probably count."

First of all, beginners to a game don't have enough money to powerlevel. And if they do, there's very little compared to the current playerbase. Hence, your statement is invalid. Beginners to a particular class however are aware of the gameplay, just not the class at a particular instant.

"lvl restricting hypers would promote lower levels to do quests, bhs and other things besides being stuck in 1 instance day after day after day. it would make a big or huge impact if this was to be added. plus you dont always need a high lvl to breeze through an instance for their low lvl toons, it would encourage squad play to where you start seeing your average same lvl range squads doing a bh run that is worth conquering."

Yes, there would be a rise in quests, bhs, etc at lower levels. I never denied this. But since the majority of the player base is filled with high levels, or low leveled characters with high leveled mains, they would just do BH's themselves without needing the help of other individuals. I'm not saying this will NOT happen, just that there won't be a drastic change since it can just be done solo and faster.

"there is more ways to making profit than selling heads or ff runs. doing tt runs for mats regardless of how much of a drop rate is at this time is alot more challenging and worth the effort than running the same old instance of killing the same ole bosses again and again. if you want to make a profit, go and do what the rest of us did before all this chaos and nonsense came out. DO SOME ZHENING even if it means doing it on 2x drops the dq drops above lvl 80 have not been affected by this dq nerf so whats stopping you from making real profit by selling the drops you make. ppl will also quit when they arent being challenged enough either. if you want something like ff, then how bout porting down to raging tide and spend all day there doing public quest. "

Yes, doing FF runs repetitively would be terrible and I could never do it. But others can. Look at world chat, there is rarely ever a person not doing an FF plvl run. Doing TT runs can be just as repetitive, with lower chance rates. TT is fun and challenging at higher levels, but sometimes I'd rather do something that wouldn't tick my charm and have a higher profit rate. And hahahaha zhenning... You honestly think that's anywhere near profitable compared to today's market? Just because it worked in the past doesn't mean it will work in the future. You must adapt to your current circumstances, and that just doesn't cut it. Plus, how is zhenning challenging? How is this not repetitive? You're contradicting yourself with these statements.

SaphirHealer - Archosaur wrote: »

also, what they were saying "its a profit to a large protion of the player base" isnt true at all..its a profit to all the sins...-.- and the few bms and barbs that solo fc...its not a profit to the playerbase..its a profit to an OP class...people need T mats to get their G16, so either farm lunar and tt to sell mats or i guess they are SOL...thats how I got coins and still get coins.


Let us not forget how much of a profit AEU can be...free apo, and you get skills you can sell for coins..I sold a book for 20-25mil a few weeks back...so yea, there are WAY better ways to make coins...

Sorry, I guess I shouldn't have worded in that sense. I meant it more in a way in that it makes up a huge profit for people who run them. Of course, a lot of people in the playerbase have alts that are bms/sins/barbs to make their mains money. They're not an OP class, they're just an aps/aoe/str class that makes plvling faster. But you are right that a lot of classes don't rely on plvling others for profit.

AEU is luck and there isn't a 100% chance that you'll get them. FF you'll know you'll get your money, or you can just kick.

so, ur only way to farm coins is on fc? ur gear must be like r8+tt99+1st to third cast vana dags, so, u r a free kill on pk for the most of pkers

Well that was just a stupid assumption. I have r9 with aps gear and r9 armor all to +7, which was all gained through farming ff and NW. Dang you are dumb if you think people with good gear dont farm it. I know r9s3 jaded BM who still farms ff. So don't make stupid assumptions. People of all gear levels use ff to make coin and it would be a travesty to ruin that market.

restricted to 85+ so now when u hit 80 you have to get another 5 levels? Ugh..and what about your alts? This seems really stupid. Some people an only play for an hour or so a day so it would take longer then a month to get 85.

Plus the instance is a great way to make money for sins/bm's and even other classes selling heads...just gonna throw that away..really makes me NOT want to lvl my sin now because i made him for that reason and to lvl alts.

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

No.

**** over anyone who wants to level now isn't gonna fix the problem.

I agree.

well all talk abt plvled noobs n all bt in a sq there r 6ppl even if there is 1 plvl person who is new to things shouldnt be much of a prob unless the rest of the sq sucks to n blame it to the new guy lol b:laugh

Level restriction 85+
no more PLVL noobs please

even if they put a lvl cap on fc, there still zhen so either way you will have the power lvling people u complain about? b:chuckle

if u stop fc they will strt plvling in pq lol b:laugh so doesnt matter b:laugh