No More Hyper In Frost

Well i like to now how players will get lvl 101 to buy rank 9 and use it since they will need years to get the lvl... lol PWI this time you fail b:laugh

I totally quested my way through my levels with the occasionally fc here and there. I guess me and Wraithgate are gonna become best friends b:thanks



FC BABIES GO QQ b:cry

Instant Gratification truly is the norm these days.
If you want to be level 105 and in the best gears immediately to be on a "level playing field" with everyone else then why in the world are you playing an MMORPG?

The entire point in an MMORPG is taking the time to quest, experience a vast world, and meet/adventure with other people.

If you want to just all be equal asap and kill each other go play another style of game.

Removing hypers from frost is the first step in the right direction that this game has taken in a very long time.

I've been playing since 2008.
I leveled up without the use of hypers.
I farmed Twilight Temple for gears and made parties.
When I hit 70, 80, and 90 I was excited. They were impressive feats and I received copious congratulations.

Now, when someone says "Gz on 100!" I laugh, and want to spit. It's hilarious.
With removal of hypers in frost I hope to see use of the rest of this game's content.

I would like to see Twilight Temple regularly farmed again instead of totally skipped over because people don't remain at those levels for any more than a few days.

I would like to see people trying to level up as fast as possible through use of questing all about the world map, or maybe just hypering with zhen parties somewhere.

I would like to see spontaneous PvP and people actually doing world quest again.

I'd like to see people actually playing the damn game.

To everyone QQ'ing about the removal of hypers from frosts,
you're just pathetic.

lol,just lolb:laugh

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

Instant Gratification truly is the norm these days.
If you want to be level 105 and in the best gears immediately to be on a "level playing field" with everyone else then why in the world are you playing an MMORPG?

The entire point in an MMORPG is taking the time to quest, experience a vast world, and meet/adventure with other people.

If you want to just all be equal asap and kill each other go play another style of game.

Removing hypers from frost is the first step in the right direction that this game has taken in a very long time.

I've been playing since 2008.
I leveled up without the use of hypers.
I farmed Twilight Temple for gears and made parties.
When I hit 70, 80, and 90 I was excited. They were impressive feats and I received copious congratulations.

Now, when someone says "Gz on 100!" I laugh, and want to spit. It's hilarious.
With removal of hypers in frost I hope to see use of the rest of this game's content.

I would like to see Twilight Temple regularly farmed again instead of totally skipped over because people don't remain at those levels for any more than a few days.

I would like to see people trying to level up as fast as possible through use of questing all about the world map, or maybe just hypering with zhen parties somewhere.

I would like to see spontaneous PvP and people actually doing world quest again.

I'd like to see people actually playing the damn game.

To everyone QQ'ing about the removal of hypers from frosts,
you're just pathetic.

Just going to quote you sir for stating the most awesome point here.

I mean, some of us have played since the game came out, had many characters lv'ed to 100 by the "old methods," and we're not complaining.

I for one am glad that frost has been nurfed, and I hope it stays like that. Playing MMO's, you learn that the entire point to playing a MMO is because of the multi-player aspect of the game. If you want to go "solo" something, then maybe playing a MMo isn't the kind of game that you need to be playing. (Now I can see soloing certain things, but instances shouldn't be able to be soloed [unless your a lv 100 soloing a lv 10 dungeon] by anyone).

In my opinion, if you don't want to play the game anymore because of this change, then b:bye, maybe we can get back to a reasonable level pf play around here.
(now if we just got rid of those packs sooner...)

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

Instant Gratification truly is the norm these days.
If you want to be level 105 and in the best gears immediately to be on a "level playing field" with everyone else then why in the world are you playing an MMORPG?

The entire point in an MMORPG is taking the time to quest, experience a vast world, and meet/adventure with other people.

If you want to just all be equal asap and kill each other go play another style of game.

Removing hypers from frost is the first step in the right direction that this game has taken in a very long time.

I've been playing since 2008.
I leveled up without the use of hypers.
I farmed Twilight Temple for gears and made parties.
When I hit 70, 80, and 90 I was excited. They were impressive feats and I received copious congratulations.

Now, when someone says "Gz on 100!" I laugh, and want to spit. It's hilarious.
With removal of hypers in frost I hope to see use of the rest of this game's content.

I would like to see Twilight Temple regularly farmed again instead of totally skipped over because people don't remain at those levels for any more than a few days.

I would like to see people trying to level up as fast as possible through use of questing all about the world map, or maybe just hypering with zhen parties somewhere.

I would like to see spontaneous PvP and people actually doing world quest again.

I'd like to see people actually playing the damn game.

To everyone QQ'ing about the removal of hypers from frosts,
you're just pathetic.

Krisnda wrote: »

Just going to quote you sir for stating the most awesome point here.

I mean, some of us have played since the game came out, had many characters lv'ed to 100 by the "old methods," and we're not complaining.

I for one am glad that frost has been nurfed, and I hope it stays like that. Playing MMO's, you learn that the entire point to playing a MMO is because of the multi-player aspect of the game. If you want to go "solo" something, then maybe playing a MMo isn't the kind of game that you need to be playing. (Now I can see soloing certain things, but instances shouldn't be able to be soloed [unless your a lv 100 soloing a lv 10 dungeon] by anyone).

In my opinion, if you don't want to play the game anymore because of this change, then b:bye, maybe we can get back to a reasonable level pf play around here.
(now if we just got rid of those packs sooner...)

Ty Krissy

Krisnda wrote: »

Just going to quote you sir for stating the most awesome point here.

I mean, some of us have played since the game came out, had many characters lv'ed to 100 by the "old methods," and we're not complaining.

I for one am glad that frost has been nurfed, and I hope it stays like that. Playing MMO's, you learn that the entire point to playing a MMO is because of the multi-player aspect of the game. If you want to go "solo" something, then maybe playing a MMo isn't the kind of game that you need to be playing. (Now I can see soloing certain things, but instances shouldn't be able to be soloed [unless your a lv 100 soloing a lv 10 dungeon] by anyone).

In my opinion, if you don't want to play the game anymore because of this change, then b:bye, maybe we can get back to a reasonable level pf play around here.
(now if we just got rid of those packs sooner...)

lame, if you wanna force ppl to play like YOU want them to play. **** style, ijs.

Abonimus - Raging Tide wrote: »

You really think anyone is gona bother to lvl and gear up till ... 2017 so they get to lvl102 and get gear that is decent ?

Considering all that is ingame already this is a wrong move if it is a move and not a bug anyway.

You have....

Bounty hunter, Crazy Stone, World Quest, Cube, Public Quest, Phoenix Valley, BH II orbs from alts, Gamma, Delta, Morai Jades, Tideborn Questline, Morai Questline, Massive exp on 60-80 quests.... and it's going to take to 2017 to level?

Get real. You can reach 80 in a few weeks, Fcc to 90 on eso's in a few weeks and as soon as you hit 95 morai bumps you to 96 and very soon you're on exp Jades to 100.

Not to mention hyper stones weren't removed. Go find some mobs with nice exp, switch on hypers, grind for an hour on 12x. Sell dq and junk, should fund a new set of hyper, rinse and repeat. Or Zhen hyper any arch assaults we get.

This isn't like 4 years ago, we're completely spoiled now with millions of ways to gain exp. Just that up until now, FCC was better. Go out into the game and try some of these things out. You might have fun. If it takes a determined player more than a month or two to reach 100 I'd honestly be surprised.

Krisnda wrote: »

Just going to quote you sir for stating the most awesome point here.

I mean, some of us have played since the game came out, had many characters lv'ed to 100 by the "old methods," and we're not complaining.

I for one am glad that frost has been nurfed, and I hope it stays like that. Playing MMO's, you learn that the entire point to playing a MMO is because of the multi-player aspect of the game. If you want to go "solo" something, then maybe playing a MMo isn't the kind of game that you need to be playing. (Now I can see soloing certain things, but instances shouldn't be able to be soloed [unless your a lv 100 soloing a lv 10 dungeon] by anyone).

In my opinion, if you don't want to play the game anymore because of this change, then b:bye, maybe we can get back to a reasonable level pf play around here.
(now if we just got rid of those packs sooner...)

so those who can solo, are left to reign as kings of tt mats?

this is not gonna invigorate anything. i use my alt account to solo bh's for my noobs. im not gonna be grabbing lvl 60 quests, nor am i finding parties for menial stuff.

PWI has long since abandoned the games 1-99 environment in favor of 100+. nerfing fcc is stupid and dumb. because you spent the games formative years lvling the hard way, doesnt mean that same process is attractive these days. i leveled 3 toons to 100 by questing and fcc past 85.

what about ppl who want to participate in endgame? TW? morai? NW?

so because some ppl like spending years to get to100, others also need to grind that **** just to get the point of this game that is currently its selling point?

i'm sorry but this better be a joke, its the most a$$-backwards decision i've ever seen.

Krisnda wrote: »

Just going to quote you sir for stating the most awesome point here.

I mean, some of us have played since the game came out, had many characters lv'ed to 100 by the "old methods," and we're not complaining.

I for one am glad that frost has been nurfed, and I hope it stays like that. Playing MMO's, you learn that the entire point to playing a MMO is because of the multi-player aspect of the game. If you want to go "solo" something, then maybe playing a MMo isn't the kind of game that you need to be playing. (Now I can see soloing certain things, but instances shouldn't be able to be soloed [unless your a lv 100 soloing a lv 10 dungeon] by anyone).

In my opinion, if you don't want to play the game anymore because of this change, then b:bye, maybe we can get back to a reasonable level pf play around here.
(now if we just got rid of those packs sooner...)

as much as i would agree, it causes competition to get stale. you can't sit there and say that the game isnt at that point. the point where the only competitive players are 100+. it's no longer the tt90 can beat tt99 days...consider everything about the game really...coins are scarce, DQ was nerfed, PVP is dominated by r9 3rd cast gear. so if a new player is starting, how are they to be up to par with high end play?

Krisnda wrote: »

Just going to quote you sir for stating the most awesome point here.

I mean, some of us have played since the game came out, had many characters lv'ed to 100 by the "old methods," and we're not complaining.

I for one am glad that frost has been nurfed, and I hope it stays like that. Playing MMO's, you learn that the entire point to playing a MMO is because of the multi-player aspect of the game. If you want to go "solo" something, then maybe playing a MMo isn't the kind of game that you need to be playing. (Now I can see soloing certain things, but instances shouldn't be able to be soloed [unless your a lv 100 soloing a lv 10 dungeon] by anyone).

In my opinion, if you don't want to play the game anymore because of this change, then b:bye, maybe we can get back to a reasonable level pf play around here.
(now if we just got rid of those packs sooner...)

It will certainly be interesting to see how the community deals with this change. Though I will echo the sentiment that capping FF entry at 75 or 80 would solve the problem easily without inconveniencing the level-appropriate squads.

And of course, let's not forget what Sylen said on... what, page 3?... that this was likely just an "oopsie" on the part of the devs, ala Secret Passage PK. If you guys want it to stay, then you'd better show your support strongly and loudly, or the whiners will drown you out and give it more chance to come back.

Personally, I'll need some time to decide what to think about this one. I can't stand powerleveling (I just call it Frost Abuse), but I do have several characters who used hypers in FF at legitimate levels, so the removal of the practice certainly impacts me as well. At this point... I just wish they'd capped it instead of removing hypers. :P

Made 5-6% just doing cube, morai daily, and 10 AoE farming runs on my cleric every day to get from 100 to 101. Just don't be a terrible player, and it's pretty easy to lvl up with the bare minimum of time spent. One set of hypers would last 12-14 days, and I'd earn around 20K per run in DQ and item drops. So not sure how it is difficult to 101 or even 102.

What would be nice is if they added coins back to Rebirths. People might actually start doing Gamma and Delta then, and just hyper on the bosses like used to be done. Good coin, good drops, cultis done, and people learn their roles in a squad based system. Much better than FCC.

Father_gold - Sanctuary wrote: »

so those who can solo, are left to reign as kings of tt mats?

this is not gonna invigorate anything. i use my alt account to solo bh's for my noobs. im not gonna be grabbing lvl 60 quests, nor am i finding parties for menial stuff.

PWI has long since abandoned the games 1-99 environment in favor of 100+. nerfing fcc is stupid and dumb. because you spent the games formative years lvling the hard way, doesnt mean that same process is attractive these days. i leveled 3 toons to 100 by questing and fcc past 85.

what about ppl who want to participate in endgame? TW? morai? NW?

so because some ppl like spending years to get to100, others also need to grind that **** just to get the point of this game that is currently its selling point?

i'm sorry but this better be a joke, its the most a$$-backwards decision i've ever seen.

Please quit if you hate it so much, looking very much forward to your type disappearing from the game.

Earlier there was a post(from vallaince) that said they didn't mean for it to happen so im guessing they will change it back sometime in the near future, so it's pointless to argue about it. The post didn't seem to stick around though for long.

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