Is this considered a scam?

That's clearly a scam trying to pray on those that are tired from a full day of nirvana.
Most people just look at the first few numbers, and the comma for raptures. All those are there.

If you don't pay attention and double check, you could probably easely fall for it

If anyone fell for it, he is a idiot.

That aside, from a technical point of view its not forbidden to buy anything for a very low price, he's not states on his shop "k" or "m" so he's not lying about the price.

Oh and if I was in a squad were the banker trashed all the squad's efforts on that shop I would blacklist him and never run with such **** again.

Scam yes, in one sense. But not in the important -could get you banned- kind of scam. Technically he's not even being untruthful since he is advertising the prices he's buying/selling for evidently (with the absence of -k-, it's an important detail!), but he is being deceptive when the general standard for advertising buying/selling prices is considered.

If I was a GM, I'd ban him, because I know that his intent is dishonest, and jackazzery doesn't get light treatment in my world b:angry. However by the rules I don't believe this would constitute a ban, since if I recall the standard for scamming is something like, advertising one thing for one price, but replacing with something else... or some other complicated reason that no one really understands because there's so much gray area that it could mean anything and just equals nothing ever being done about anything, ever.

In conclusion always check before you sell/buy anything to make sure it's really the thing you want to buy/sell and the price is what it should be.

Not really a scam. Especially with color coded coin. I can setup a shop buying tokens for 1 coin each but if I don't give a false price and you're stupid enough to sell to me, that's on you.

Maybe the cat's main is using the shop to scam his squadmembers by saying he sold uncs and raps to the scamshop b:surrender

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »

If anyone fell for it, he is a idiot.

That aside, from a technical point of view its not forbidden to buy anything for a very low price, he's not states on his shop "k" or "m" so he's not lying about the price.

Oh and if I was in a squad were the banker trashed all the squad's efforts on that shop I would blacklist him and never run with such **** again.

Ah, I guess you must be one of those people who's never ever been caught off guard after a long day of drudgery. The only idiot here is you, who thinks himself unable to make such an error. The scam (and it is a scam) works by catching a handful of people at just the right moment when their attention isn't at 100%.


Happened to my squad a week ago, lost 3 Raps. I realized immediately what happened when the banker wrote "oh no!" just after posting the high price she found. We gave her some ribbing, and will continue to do so from time to time, but I'm not about to abandon someone for a careless mistake that cost me a paltry 600k.

i wish i knew who these type of ppl were so i could beat them to death... i just cant stand ppl like that... take the game out of it... its just the mentality of those type of ppl make me sick b:angry

I agree; check into mental facility and get lithium drip.

OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »

read before you buy,could be a typo,also if the person wants to buy the canny for 250 coins each then thats how much he wants to spend then.

It's not a typo, its a scam, plain and simple. That guy has been there for most of this x2, prices changing to look like the best deal at the time. Just because he's not technically lying doesn't make it any less deceptive and wrong.

Love how these threads always bring out the geniuses who could never fall for such ploys to side with the scammer and deride the victim for being "stupid". Even if it was the case that only the weak minded could fall prey, how does that make it any less wrong? Abusing the less fortunate, what a lovely business model.

ebay is a bad example. They allow buyers to bully their sellers. I was about to quit my job and sell full time on ebay until someone sniped 3 of my auctions and demanded a discount on shipping with a threat of bad feedback if I didn't. They violated 3 terms of the auction that I laid out clearly. I forwarded the messages to ebay, and told the buyer I would not sell to them. It said clearly in auction details that no multi-auction shipping deals would be made after the auction closes. The guy sent payment via paypal despite me telling them I cancelled. Not only did ebay allow his bad feedback on all 3 auctions; it also tried to charge me a reimbursement fee (they own paypal). They let him kill my 3 auctions, damage my feedback rating x 3, and would have cost me money if I'd stuck around. -**** ebay!

Is this a move worthy of a ***** and should be punished? Yes. Is it something that's a true scam and makes a real attempt to deceive large amounts of people? Not really.

mogwai wrote: »

and while we're at it why not ban all the "donations" shops, buying herbs, emblems, mirages, etc for 1 coin each MY GOD MAN!

Those aren't scams. Those are pretty clear that you're just donating to the faction. IT's meant for faction members to get things like bases.

Licancura - Archosaur wrote: »

Ive read complains from people new to the game that didnt understand the concept, and thought they were getting something by donating. And, in all these years, Ive seen a fair share of catshopt that accept personal donations, clearly stating so.

So, who decides what's a scam and what's not? Just because someone understand a selling/buying prize is weird, it doesnt mean is not a scam.

Which I believe is clearly a scam, is selling a sadness card for 1million coins but, I may be wrong since Ive seen many catshops buying sadness cards. I'm tempted to sell mines.

A scam is when someone uses fraud or deception to gain something. A seller cannot know what everyone is thinking and how they understand the world. Just because someone is under the bizzare impression that they every last donation in the world means they will get something for donating, doesn't mean they were scammed out of their money for selling to a donation shop. Neither are personal donations scams, since the person clearly is telling you that what you are giving them is a donation. A donation is a gift. Gifts are clearly things you give people for free. Anyone expecting all donations to give them something in return, don't have a very good grasp of how donations work. That isn't anyone else's fault but their own.

Just because you don't like a purchase you made, it doesn't mean you were scammed out of your money. You have a responsibility to understand what you are purchasing.

However, here are some common practices that are scams:

1) Opening up more than two clients to give people the false impression that your prices are the best in town. You're using deception (by putting up a bunch of cat shops) to make it seem like an item is one price, when it's actually another.

2) Pretending an item is a different item.

3)Using an alt to pretend to you're someone you're not in order to convince someone to part with an item. You're using fraud to get an item, so yes you're scamming someone.

4) Pretending to buy for one price when you're buying for a much lower price

5) Telling someone that an item is worth less than it is so that you can get the item for cheaper

Some things that are not scams, but people think they are just because they don't like it.

1) Offering to buy something from someone for a low price

2) Selling an item for a high price

3) Accepting donations.

4) Offering to pay the fee for entry into an instance, in order to keep all the drops to yourself

5) Selling someone an item that doesn't work as good as they had hoped. I've seen some people consider packs a scam for example. They aren't. They are gambling items, and it's not PWI's fault that you don't bother to read the easily available information about the item.

The key thing about scams and frauds is the use of deception. If there is no attempt to deceive someone in order to get their stuff, there is no scam.

SoulRequiem - Sanctuary wrote: »

Now,its catshop states " buy 286 / 1.280 " he didn't wrote "k" so APPARENTLY he's being honest and not liyng while in the other hand he's obviously trying to make people fell into it.

Would you consider it a scam?,if you were a GM would you ban him?

Technically, it isn't a scam since he's not lying. So no, it isn't scam, which is an over used word in this game and it's forums.

However, that doesn't mean it's legal (with all precautions to this word as it's a game based on an international community), and even less moral, to do that. It is a form of abuse and trickery. It should be banned, and it's easy to justify a ban really. He/she is obviously trying to mislead the sellers, abuse their rush that is created naturally by 2x and abuse the situation of a zillion catshops at the same spot also due to 2x.

GMs should use the ignorance off those immoral players to their advantage. Those players only know the word "scam" and totally ignore that there is more juridictional vocabulary in that part of law. Ban them directly !

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lying is not a requirement for it to be a scam. You just have to be deceptive / misleading. So yes it is a scam.

Then I'll be more specific, here it wouldn't be a scam as a scam in the litteral translation refers to an infraction of lying/misleading on the componants of the transaction, which isn't the case here.

In the presented case, the misleading lies on the emplacement and time of the shop, not the items offered, their price or the the title of the shop. If that shop were situated in any other place without 2x, nobody would find it misleading. It would be called a rip-off maybe, which isn't an infraction unless it concerns specific categories.

Idk what you refer too, maybe other countries have more open legal infraction definitions but I honestly doubt that as the distinction between misleading on the situation or on the substance is very important.

If you're refering to a dictionairy, then sure, whatever you want to call it is fine with me.