New CN Expansion Thread #2

XKurayami - Lost City wrote: »

Somebody know any further information about the new gear?
Cuz I dont wanna waste millions to get r8 on my alt now if that new gear is better.

The new gear might not become very interesting for pvp servers cz those new attack/defence lvls work only on mobs/bosses.

+ with map resets every 6 months pvp will become more interesting for many ppl who had no chance to join a tw yet.

Imo they r too late with the idea to make gear for pve purposes only. They should have released this kind of gear BEFORE they put rank stuff on sale... And even before they have released nv gear. But now its too late. Mybe i'm wrong. But with the info i got till now i dont think so...

XKurayami - Lost City wrote: »

The stupid thing is that repu sale ends just before they release the expansion so I need to take a desition now.

Take the rank gear. Be mindful they've been very much against -int gear recently (R9 chest: no -int, R8 recast: low as hell chance) and additionally this stuff seems to be pretty much PvE only powerful.

This is specualtion of course, but personally I'd take the rank still.

I just took the decition if my momaganon psy doesnt hit 95+ before expanion ill joinnew worlds with my lc sin. gosh I totally feel like sin again b:pleased

I found a post showing the prices of acquiring the books:

http://w2i.178.com/201112/117257150496.html

My rough estimate from this spreadsheet is that it would take 3-4 weeks per order to get that order's skills. So like 2-3 months to get all the skills.


Basically it works like this:

There are 3 orders Corona, Shroud, and Luminance. For each you have merit and prestige (I dont know the PWI names). Your prestige will always go up while you spend merit points on items.

Daily tasks you can do twice a day and come randomly as purple blue or white quests. These award 40 prestige and 20 merit (not sure which).

Weekly quests can be done I think for each order and award 60 prestige for that order.

There is also a weekly quest for your own faction that gives 80 prestige and 30 merit.

I'm not too sure if there are other ways of gaining prestige / merit but this gives you an idea how much you will be getting for doing stuff.

To leave a faction sacrifices 5% of your prestige and merit. You can't join another faction for 24 hours and have to remain in your new faction for at least 7 days.


The beginner version skill books require you to have 40 prestige and cost 15 merit points + 105k coin.
The big-boy skill books require 3500 prestige and and cost 675 merit but no coin to buy. These beginner skills are tradeable but the big boy skills are not (probably can't account stash them either).
You still need coin and spirit to learn these books though.

There are other things you can buy with merit:
Spirit - up to 450k a day for 100 merit
Experience - up to 2m a day for 100 merit
Reputation - 1,600 a day for 100 merit
Shards
Baby pet eggs (dino, fish, double headed eagle)
g15 weapons / armor / reroll mats
runes
fly mounts (nothing good I tink)
mounts - 8.5m/s (red unicorn, gold unicorn, purple unicorn)
Pheonix Valley Ticket
Nirvana Talisman
Cube of Fate Directorate Letter

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I found a post showing the prices of acquiring the books:

http://w2i.178.com/201112/117257150496.html

My rough estimate from this spreadsheet is that it would take 3-4 weeks per order to get that order's skills. So like 2-3 months to get all the skills.


Basically it works like this:

There are 3 orders Corona, Shroud, and Luminance. For each you have merit and prestige (I dont know the PWI names). Your prestige will always go up while you spend merit points on items.

Daily tasks you can do twice a day and come randomly as purple blue or white quests. These award 40 prestige and 20 merit (not sure which).

Weekly quests can be done I think for each order and award 60 prestige for that order.

There is also a weekly quest for your own faction that gives 80 prestige and 30 merit.

I'm not too sure if there are other ways of gaining prestige / merit but this gives you an idea how much you will be getting for doing stuff.

To leave a faction sacrifices 5% of your prestige and merit. You can't join another faction for 24 hours and have to remain in your new faction for at least 7 days.


The skill books require 3500 prestige and and cost 675 merit but no coin to buy.
The beginner version skill books require you to have 40 prestige and cost 15 merit points + 105k coin.You still need coin and spirit to learn these though.

There are other things you can buy with merit:
Spirit - up to 450k a day for 100 merit
Experience - up to 2m a day for 100 merit
Reputation - 1,600 a day for 100 merit
Shards
Baby pet eggs (dino, fish, double headed eagle)
g15 weapons / armor / reroll mats
runes
fly mounts (nothing good I tink)
mounts - 8.5m/s (red unicorn, gold unicorn, purple unicorn)
Pheonix Valley Ticket
Nirvana Talisman
Cube of Fate Directorate Letter

Sounds pretty good :O

Any chance you could clarify the bit in red? Do you mean the skills that we get 2 versions of can have the worse version obtained cheaper? (And quicker ofc)

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=Perfect+World+International%3A+Descent&month=02&day=15&year=2012&hour=00&min=00&sec=00&p0=179

Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Looking at the link it also says some skills are tradable (Seeker pet skill for example). So presumably that will shorten the over all time to gain the complete set for your class if you can outright buy certain books from other players.

Ya the baby-level books are cheap and tradeable. Big boy books are not.

Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »

Can you please clarify? To learn new skills i.e wing leap and archer stealth and sunset arrows requires baby and big boy books? If so what are the differences?

Some books (the "baby" books) can be gotten at a lower level such as lvl 80 and they are tradable. The big boy books on the other hand you have to be level 100 to get them plus the merit/prestige requirements are much higher.

From what I gathered however... there are also lvl 100 versions of those tradable skills which are more powerful but I don't see them in the lists for the various orders.

Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

hey here is the patcher from the new expansion

The patcher skin is usually different. Ours probably won't look like that.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

The beginner version skill books require you to have 40 prestige and cost 15 merit points + 105k coin.
The big-boy skill books require 3500 prestige and and cost 675 merit but no coin to buy. These beginner skills are tradeable but the big boy skills are not (probably can't account stash them either).
You still need coin and spirit to learn these books though.

There are other things you can buy with merit:
Spirit - up to 450k a day for 100 merit
Experience - up to 2m a day for 100 merit

Reputation - 1,600 a day for 100 merit
Shards
Baby pet eggs (dino, fish, double headed eagle)
g15 weapons / armor / reroll mats
runes
fly mounts (nothing good I tink)
mounts - 8.5m/s (red unicorn, gold unicorn, purple unicorn)
Pheonix Valley Ticket
Nirvana Talisman
Cube of Fate Directorate Letter

And these are earned by doing the special quests? Wow, that really makes questing for these blue purple white quests worthwhile. They kinda sound like divine orders on crack.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thats the daily limit on turning in merit for xp / sp. I'm not sure if you can actually earn 100 merit a day. You can probably earn like 60 or so merit a day but you want to save it up for skills at least at the start.

Well yeah, but after you get the skills it gives an incentive to continue to do the quests. I hope more expansions also give more incentives to questing. TBH I think the whole system needs a overhaul, but this expansion sounds like it's a step in the right direction.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

g15 weapons / armor / reroll mats

Is there more info on this? IE, how long it would take to collect reroll mats to do one reroll (like how its forever on R8...)

I'm just going by that spreadsheet. I'm not really sure what's the max prestige / merit you can get per day...

The weapons cost 900 merit and require 5000 prestige.
You can see this on the bow called: ★★天兵-化蝶
which has stats: http://image.81813.com/w2i/2012/01/27/wm270401.jpg

The reroll mat "华光会徽记" is also there and can be used to reroll the above bow.
http://i.imgur.com/5JNAX.png
There are 2 different reroll recipes with that mat, one that takes 60 + bow = bow, another takes 45 + bow = bow.
I'm assuming this is like r8 recast where one of them is reshaping and one is honing

You need 5000 prestige to buy "华光会徽记" but it only costs 1 merit each. I think you are limited to 15 a day though?

Each faction has their own particular set of weapons and their own recast mat.


EDIT: I checked some threads on the chinese forums and it seems like it took them about a month to farm their first good skill. This makes it seem like my initial rough estimate of 3-4 weeks per order is about right.