Miss the Original PW?

ShoeFury - Sanctuary wrote: »

Wow! A level 60 with a green TT weapon!

b:cry

I remember those thoughts

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I strongly got the impression that the reason people were falling over themselves to help with FBs had less to do with kindness and more to do with wanting rep.

A lot of people were like that. I can't say I didn't like the rep or exp, but I've always enjoyed helping people with their cultis and I'd always make sure that whomever's FB I was running would get all their quests done and would get to keep any mold drops, back when molds actually kind of mattered.

1. Fbs were tossed around like hotcakes u had an fb and theyd swarm to ya to help you. 2. People dident cash shop there lvls. 3. Sure gold was still kinda climbing but never as absurd as this. 4. Packs. 5. The list goes on and on...

seitori wrote: »

Yes I miss the old days "B4 the boutiques constant Pack sales & B4 they brought in the concept of hypers..." and B4 they ignored the glitchers "Who then, really realized how much more glitching would be able pay off for them, under the new (hyper/Pack Items) based game economy... As they 'even more fervently' violated many of the (ToS) rules without punishment..." while the Admins turned a blind eye to their Newest rabidly active cash shoppers, actions....

And All that, while the newly reassured CS'ing Glitchers, (payed/glitched) their ways to the top outta nowhere... And then began to manipulate the (TW Map) right out from underneath the old REAL TW~factions, and as a result began to Monopolize! Not only the ingame (coin/price) market, but also the F'ing! Gold Prices Aswell!!? b:angry


Yes I miss the old days, where all players were treated 'fairly & equally' on the F2P Game, and no one was (bypassed & ignored) by the 'powers that be!'

And that no matter how much you spent on the game, you still would be punished for violations incurred, rather then givin a 'free hand' too do whatever ya basically wanted to do, so long as they don't catch ya doing it themselves (Or until so many peaple have to report your violations that it practically has the chance to crash the Ticket system) just because you gave the DEVS more of your cash, then others that played the game normally "Within the (ToS) Rules" gave them, as a cash influx......

Ohh! how I miss those days, where everyone whether (CS'r) or just ingame (coin quester) was all givin a fair shake, at accomplishing something equally in a balanced well thought out game, instead of what now exists..........b:surrender


b:sad Oh how I miss the good old days.........b:bye



Oh and by the way, can you say, a Major Q to the Q!! ??!!!



I only wish we could laugh! about how bad its really become......b:spit

lolz i hate when poor people QQ about their spot in society... you all just need to relize that if u had money to blow on the game you would cash shop too, who has time to farm 5 aps gear or r9? if u have that much free time u have no life XD

Ckato - Lost City wrote: »

lolz i hate when poor people QQ about their spot in society... you all just need to relize that if u had money to blow on the game you would cash shop too, who has time to farm 5 aps gear or r9? if u have that much free time u have no life XD

I have money to blow on the game yet I didn't cs my gear. Not everyone is as completely **** as yourself.

Ckato - Lost City wrote: »

lolz i hate when poor people QQ about their spot in society... you all just need to relize that if u had money to blow on the game you would cash shop too, who has time to farm 5 aps gear or r9? if u have that much free time u have no life XD

It should be the other way around. If you're too busy and have no time for yourself. Then you have no life.

ImperfectDan - Archosaur wrote: »

the day PWI will be closed.. i will have lot of nice memories.. u will just have the bill of how much u spent lol

till that moment.. i will go on spending my money on RL!

I don't get this mentality. Spending money on PWI (or any form of online entertainment) is no less "RL spending" than buying a ticket to a movie. It's disposable income used on a temporary form of entertainment. In the end, you're not keeping what you *paid* for.

Hell, I'm sure most people spend more money on alcohol per year than it would cost to buy r9. If you took that money and spent it on r9 instead of the alcohol, you'd get to enjoy it way longer (i.e. until you decide to quit) and your liver would probably be grateful.

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

I don't get this mentality. Spending money on PWI (or any form of online entertainment) is no less "RL spending" than buying a ticket to a movie. It's disposable income used on a temporary form of entertainment. In the end, you're not keeping what you *paid* for.

Hell, I'm sure most people spend more money on alcohol per year than it would cost to buy r9. If you took that money and spent it on r9 instead of the alcohol, you'd get to enjoy it way longer (i.e. until you decide to quit) and your liver would probably be grateful.

There are a lot of proven benefits to person-to-person interaction that you just won't be getting online. Same thing with physical exercise. So I wouldn't call them the same thing just because you paid for the same type of service, because the medium is different. And that does matter. For one thing, you tend to miss out on micro expressions, even if you use Skype, because of the delay between the connection. You also miss out on certain body language, and environmental factors that occur when your with a group of people. I'm not saying that people who spend money on video games are inferior, or that the only thing they'll have is a bill, or anything of the sort. That's patently untrue and sounds like a bunch of sour grapes. It's coming from someone who thinks they are better than someone else, or from a place of jealousy that they can't afford to do the same. Perhaps it just comes of thinking their form of entertainment is superior. Which is ridiculous for the reason you pointed out. I'm just saying going to dinner and movie with a friend is different than raiding a dungeon with a friend.

I think this is why a lot of people who ultimately find love on video games, tend to make arrangements to meet each other face to face. And why sometimes this can suddenly cause things not to work out, or can cause the passion to grow into a full blown marriage. The internet attracts anti-social people who can't interact with others face-to-face exactly because it's missing that human element and emotion that they just aren't as well equipped to handle as others. It's not that everyone on the internet is anti-social or that everyone who is anti-social like the internet. Certainly not, but that element could potentially be attractive for that reason, the lack of human contact..

ImperfectDan - Archosaur wrote: »

the day PWI will be closed.. i will have lot of nice memories.. u will just have the bill of how much u spent lol

till that moment.. i will go on spending my money on RL!

I didn't like this kind of comment.... b:surrender
It a comment that simply mean to make those who charge zen look stupid... b:beatup
A comment that can easily create haters. b:shutup

Most people that charge $ in game are people that doesn't have much time to spent their precious time to work for in game money. Especially with fact that gamers this day usually are a casual type.
They can play for a long time like the old hardcore type, but just for the fun. They can be careless about immersion or hard work in game, all that matter is fun factor. (aka end game in today PW, or people that play skyrim but don't know and didn't want to know about elder scroll lore)

I remember times when, CSer or not, you had to be skilled to be successful.


The game now is: charge Zen, buy levels, buy gears, buy refines, double click enemy -> win.



I remember doing my own FB's with just 2 friends of same level
I remember when grinding or farming mats gave you enough coins to buy good mount or aerogear, or TT mats for gear
I remember when doing TTs took some effort but was worth it
I remember when TT90 green and gold were suitable for PvP and PvE
I remember when doing instances required good team composition and skill
I remember when 1vs1 fights in PvP took longer than 5 seconds, even with 5-10 lvls difference
I remember when you had to fight for grinding/farming spots and World Bosses and that fights often turned into huge mass PvP
I remember doing Friendship Quests
I remember when only "obvious" dailies was 1 BH and Crazy Stone, then you could go and do whatever you wanted
I remember when hitting lvl 100 was a real achievement, people would WC it and get congrats from friends and randoms alike
I remember when playing this game was about having fun, PK-ing or doing instances with bunch of friends and not about endless farming or charging Zen to get OP gear and run around oneshotting others.

/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »

I remember when playing this game was about having fun, PK-ing, pure drama, or doing instances with bunch of friends and not about endless farming forever 24/7 catshop, complaining, bullying people, open pack, buying cash shop pet, become 5 aps, or charging Zen to get OP gear so we can run around oneshotting others, compete in tw, and accepted in random squad.

Oh and don't forget to +12 our equipment after new skills from underworld come. b:chuckle

/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »

I remember doing my own FB's with just 2 friends of same level
I remember when grinding or farming mats gave you enough coins to buy good mount or aerogear, or TT mats for gear
I remember when doing TTs took some effort but was worth it
I remember when TT90 green and gold were suitable for PvP and PvE
I remember when doing instances required good team composition and skill
I remember when 1vs1 fights in PvP took longer than 5 seconds, even with 5-10 lvls difference
I remember when you had to fight for grinding/farming spots and World Bosses and that fights often turned into huge mass PvP
I remember doing Friendship Quests
I remember when only "obvious" dailies was 1 BH and Crazy Stone, then you could go and do whatever you wanted
I remember when hitting lvl 100 was a real achievement, people would WC it and get congrats from friends and randoms alike
I remember when playing this game was about having fun, PK-ing or doing instances with bunch of friends and not about endless farming or charging Zen to get OP gear and run around oneshotting others.

Through all this, what's sad about it is that all these game elements (or most of them anyway) are still there, still playable. But most people regard them as obsolete or "inefficient" despite the fact that... y'know, they're fun.

You can still form good teams for instances. You can still run anything in PVE with TT90 gear and do just fine, assuming you know how to play your class properly. You can still hit 100 with BH/CS and MQ and probably Cube, with maybe an occasional FF on the side if you feel like it. I'd say PVP is the only thing that's irreparably damaged, and even that can be done among friends. Just not, y'know, TW.

If people would actually try to play the game the way it was designed, they'll find that it's still mostly intact. Hurting, but intact. The number-one mistake you can make in this day and age is to say "oh, that's just the way it is now" and scramble to keep up with the Jonses.

to add: no one seems to use Chat Room in-game anymore nowadays :P

Untamed 1 - Sanctuary wrote: »

I just came back recently to see how much this game has changed.
Sadly it doesn't seem to be for the better, so yeah, we can reminisce of the good ol' days.

Now I have to ask, am I now the only Player with a space in his/her name?

look !!1! a rare Barb !!1! quick throw ur pokeball 1!123!!

The only thing I really dislike about the game the way it is right now is how unwelcoming it is to new players. The game is already so established that it's hard to get into it if you're new (or not coming from a different server).

I don't know a single person who is actually 'new' to the game. If somebody tries to join it's really way too hard to get into it the way you could several years ago.

The community's inability to grow is the only thing that pisses me off.

I don't mind the high gold prices, because it's now possible to make tens of millions of coins in a day. (Through BH100, Nirvana, Selling FC). Packs I actually find to be great, they support merchanting and keep a large supply of tokens available for the F2P community to use. As the price of things goes up, so does the amount a person is able to earn.

The only thing that isn't cool is if someone is coming into the game with 0 knowledge about it or how it works, it really isn't easy to learn your way around without CSing. On top of that, who would want to spend several hundred dollars on a game they just started a couple days ago?

Because these are all valid points. And no one is saying we don't like the game, we are here and in forum so obviously we do care. I think this page says sooo much about the game and where it's headed. Take head of this pretty well done thread. I adore this game and adore playing. Girly dry humps everyone cuz well I'm me, staz! Don't make me come up there! LOL

b:cute

Aaaah ****...page 12 not this one! FFS