So.... who's going to quit over no SP fix?
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frankieraye wrote: »SP fix is coming in the upcoming content update tentatively titled " _ _ _ (space) _ _ _ _ _ _ "
A month passes with people wanting answers and THIS is the best you can give us? Why not just tell us the truth ... it will be a cold day in hell before they admit they screwed up and will actually change it.
I long ago accepted the fact you have to wait for China but if this is the best you can do at communicating to the COMMUNITY you manage... you fail!0 -
You know i half made this thread to see if frankie would even BOTHER saying anything.... and srry but that fails. Why do we have to wait probably MONTHS now for some **** *** half-baked additional content that probably NO ONE will do cause it sucks just to have SP FIXED???????????? Tell them to send the damn code for the old SP, that damn simple.
Btw pretty sure barely anyone's looked at this yet and already 5 MORE people quitting..... keep it up, great way to run things..... b:laugh0 -
Don't really think that there's much of a poll on whose going or not, not that I'm fussed either way on what's "fixed", seemings as this game never get's any content and the game will eventually die off to to inept devs that are more concerned about money above making there playerbase happy with content.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Kantorek: we hope to see the economy in PWI come back "down to earth" if you will."
*One week later*
"Frankieraye: Lucky Corals and Platinum Charms are going to be in the Boutique indefinitely."
*few months later, PWI puts rank8/9 into the CS insanely cheap, raising gold 1mill+*0 -
Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »You're right but...
I would think the localizers for the game are in China, since that's where the bundle of patches are put together for us and then sent over a cable that takes months to reach our shores.
there's no other reason why they take forever
Frankie does nothing related to game coding.
I dunno, it seems like it would make far more sense for them to do it here, considering how many other versions and languages this is translated into. You could be right, but it doesn't seem to make very much sense to me considering the number of versions this game has. Then again, some of the decisions they make don't make much sense to me either, such as the change to SP. As for why it takes so long to get here:frankieraye wrote: »
The way that we get content from China is that, instead of giving us one new thing every week or two, they wait a few weeks and then give us a bigger patch with multiple things. Doing it this way makes it easier to test and ensures a more stable client for us.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Anyone want to pm me some suggestion on other games to play? I think I am going to be taking a long break from this game. I have a few xbox games to play if not. b:bye0
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frankieraye wrote: »SP fix is coming in the upcoming content update tentatively titled " _ _ _ (space) _ _ _ _ _ _ "
Okay Frankie maybe you could correct me if I am wrong. But from what I understand here... a patch is basically a correction of minor game errors, additions of sales, removals of sales, inclusions of minor game events (such as Anniversary Events) and the like.
A Content Update from my understanding on the other hand is a much broader scale update. Falling just short of a major expansion update. It would include major updates such as new content in the game like maybe new areas (Faction Base updates?), new gear (Earthguard Rank 9 Gear), modifications to existing gear (R8 / R9 Recasts) and other similar things would be my guess on this front. Which would in turn make it the ideal time to implement a massive reversion in the coding rules for an area such as Secret Passage would it not?Acc 1: TolanSky ~ ● Seeker / Daearena ~ Mystic / ThornLily ~ Veno
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im staying here just poking pps and play pwi totally free... damn u vat fees rules b:sad0
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Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »Don't really think that there's much of a poll on whose going or not, not that I'm fussed either way on what's "fixed", seemings as this game never get's any content and the game will eventually die off to to inept devs that are more concerned about money above making there playerbase happy with content.
Dn is equal as ****. Both gamewise and companywise.VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »I dunno, it seems like it would make far more sense for them to do it here, considering how many other versions and languages this is translated into. You could be right, but it doesn't seem to make very much sense to me considering the number of versions this game has. As for why it takes so long to get here:
It's not impossible to hire native speakers. I would have to double check on that though, but I don't recall hearing about the localizers being here in the us.
Also, I've seen that post by frankie before, and it should be obvious by now just how much of those patches actually gets tested...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »You know i half made this thread to see if frankie would even BOTHER saying anything.... and srry but that fails. Why do we have to wait probably MONTHS now for some **** *** half-baked additional content that probably NO ONE will do cause it sucks just to have SP FIXED???????????? Tell them to send the damn code for the old SP, that damn simple.
Btw pretty sure barely anyone's looked at this yet and already 5 MORE people quitting..... keep it up, great way to run things..... b:laugh
SP fix is just the tip of the iceberg. This update actually has a ton of new stuff that a lot of you will enjoy, including pretty cool content for the PWI veterans out there. High level players especially will be very happy with it.
It's in its final testing phase, and we'll be doing a full-fledged preview very soon, along with a formal announcement of the official release date.0 -
This question is a spinoff of another thread.
Since the reversion will happen somewhere around the 5th of never, your left with few choices.
*Quit
*Play
LoL thats it. How many of you needed SP and were waiting for the SP reversion? ( Me!!!)
If so are you going to say F it and take your chances in SP?? ( I am!! Heads up, don't knock me on my a** high lvls)0 -
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »You know i half made this thread to see if frankie would even BOTHER saying anything.... and srry but that fails. Why do we have to wait probably MONTHS now for some **** *** half-baked additional content that probably NO ONE will do cause it sucks just to have SP FIXED???????????? Tell them to send the damn code for the old SP, that damn simple.
Btw pretty sure barely anyone's looked at this yet and already 5 MORE people quitting..... keep it up, great way to run things..... b:laugh
I agree on your point that the communication regarding the sp fix to the community could be handled more professionally. However your second point shows that you had not been reading what others had posted.
Firstly, you ask them to send old code over....to who? for what? pwi probably doesnt have the authority to modify any code and hence no developers. China probably wouldnt released core code to pwi either.
Secondly fyi, when a patch happens...there are a lot of processes involved from modification to deployment, its not as simple as change and patch.0 -
frankieraye wrote: »SP fix is just the tip of the iceberg. This update actually has a ton of new stuff that a lot of you will enjoy, including pretty cool content for the PWI veterans out there. High level players especially will be very happy with it.
It's in its final testing phase, and we'll be doing a full-fledged preview very soon, along with a formal announcement of the official release date.
You see I figured this would be the case. I even said as much regarding the scale of the update in my last post. I figured that we would be getting a much more massive update in the months to come and this is good news as it sounds like we are finally going to be getting REAL end game content aside from what little we already have.Acc 1: TolanSky ~ ● Seeker / Daearena ~ Mystic / ThornLily ~ Veno
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frankieraye wrote: »SP fix is just the tip of the iceberg. This update actually has a ton of new stuff that a lot of you will enjoy, including pretty cool content for the PWI veterans out there. High level players especially will be very happy with it.
It's in its final testing phase, and we'll be doing a full-fledged preview very soon, along with a formal announcement of the official release date.
if it doesnt have anything non rank gear related alot veteran players dont care make this game more like forsaken world where non cash shoppers stand a chance on competing with massive cash shoppers and dont have to merchant 24/7 to get their gear.Spending 90k normal tokens of luck for a full rank9 recast is jsut plain stupid making 2.2bil coins even more expensive by making a 1.8bil coin upgrade b:bye0 -
I got plenty to do till SP reversion. I'm not in a hurry.
If all else fails, I'll rally hundreds of players that need SP quests and swarm SP bosses all day till most of us get credit (AoE PKers would have a blast at that lol)0 -
Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »Dn is equal as ****. Both gamewise and companywise.
It's not impossible to hire native speakers. I would have to double check on that though, but I don't recall hearing about the localizers being here in the us.
Also, I've seen that post by frankie before, and it should be obvious by now just how much of those patches actually gets tested...
I'm not saying they couldn't hire a native speak for every single version of the game to translate all the patches, I'm just saying it seems like a waste of money and manpower for that version of the game to take on. I could be wrong though, your way is just as possible and less frankie says otherwise we'll probably never know. :P Although the patch notes lead me to believe that it's done here. :PMonkeyShatter wrote: »Faction Base
The Wandering Artist is getting senile and wandered off prematurely. We have relocalized most of the quest text for the Wandering Artist and his pets so that they make a bit more sense. Things to note:
The greeting text for most of the pets have been changed.
Tears Bamboo is now Young Bamboo.
Bird's Nest is now Giant Bird Egg.
Lost City Oil is now Lost City Honey. We don't know why your pets would want to eat oil.
Fashion
JJ fashion set with Chinese characters in the name have now been changed to the Celebrity fashion set.
Misc.
Fixed instances of "Bowmans" to "Bowmen".
"Frangrances Wine" will now be referred to as "Fragrant Wine".
Some of the Maiden-Kissed Chests were incorrectly named. They have been changed back to Heroic Chests.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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XDracona - Heavens Tear wrote: »Anyone want to pm me some suggestion on other games to play? I think I am going to be taking a long break from this game. I have a few xbox games to play if not. b:bye
Try reading my post carefully.Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »Dn is equal as ****. Both gamewise and companywise.
If you don't like action games, then yeah its ****, I'm not on the US either, I'm over on the SEA so the company's are different and personally, I'm having a lot of fun playing it with friends, especially with PvP not being the paint dry that PWI has turned into.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Kantorek: we hope to see the economy in PWI come back "down to earth" if you will."
*One week later*
"Frankieraye: Lucky Corals and Platinum Charms are going to be in the Boutique indefinitely."
*few months later, PWI puts rank8/9 into the CS insanely cheap, raising gold 1mill+*0 -
frankieraye wrote: »SP fix is just the tip of the iceberg. This update actually has a ton of new stuff that a lot of you will enjoy, including pretty cool content for the PWI veterans out there. High level players especially will be very happy with it.
It's in its final testing phase, and we'll be doing a full-fledged preview very soon, along with a formal announcement of the official release date.
There's that word again "SOON". I have a feeling that it'll be next year before the China devs get off their a$$es. And already tried that one Renza. I played for 5 minutes and uninstalled lol.0 -
frankieraye wrote: »SP fix is just the tip of the iceberg. This update actually has a ton of new stuff that a lot of you will enjoy, including pretty cool content for the PWI veterans out there. High level players especially will be very happy with it.
It's in its final testing phase, and we'll be doing a full-fledged preview very soon, along with a formal announcement of the official release date.
Hmm, where have I heard this before...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Kantorek: we hope to see the economy in PWI come back "down to earth" if you will."
*One week later*
"Frankieraye: Lucky Corals and Platinum Charms are going to be in the Boutique indefinitely."
*few months later, PWI puts rank8/9 into the CS insanely cheap, raising gold 1mill+*0 -
Honestly, if people would quit the game over the amount of content in SP, it really probably wasn't a matter of time until they quit anyway due to, say, seeing a spot of light on the wall.0
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Personally I wonder why is this something to quit about? I mean its only needed for a small Level range and even then most people in there try not to kill you its only the AoE's from ppl fighting that kill and if i was a low lvl id be waiting and trying not to get near anyways. Iv gone in there to help and 9/10 times if u let the PKers know ur helping low lvls they leave u alone. Now I dont go in there every day, and i really dislike the lack of consideration on the part of the low lvls but I dont feel this is something to Be Freaked out by and quit over. Its just another area to be Careful of and make sure ur with friends at-least.0
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Maiyr - Lost City wrote: »I agree on your point that the communication regarding the sp fix to the community could be handled more professionally. However your second point shows that you had not been reading what others had posted.
Firstly, you ask them to send old code over....to who? for what? pwi probably doesnt have the authority to modify any code and hence no developers. China probably wouldnt released core code to pwi either.
Secondly fyi, when a patch happens...there are a lot of processes involved from modification to deployment, its not as simple as change and patch.
Obviously i didn't mean for china to hand over the CODE........ meant send a small patch with the OLD SP in it, can't be that freaking difficult if they have ANY SEMBLANCE of competency and keep the coding from changes in case something's screwed up (course by now we all know they don't)....frankieraye wrote: »Update: Just wanted to be up front with you all and set a realistic expectation-
The way that we get content from China is that, instead of giving us one new thing every week or two, they wait a few weeks and then give us a bigger patch with multiple things. Doing it this way makes it easier to test and ensures a more stable client for us..
Say what? I'm no developer, but that makes absolutely NO sense. It's easier to test things in smaller bits. If something screws up you have to find it, and the more **** there is to look through the longer it takes. If it's even fixed at ALL..... guess there's one reason there's so many glitched parts of the game. lol.......0 -
Renza - Raging Tide wrote: », where have I heard this before...
We are sorry, your "Hmm" had to be removed due to "Client Instability".
b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
LOL, I really don't care.
To be perfectly honest, the only time I was even in SP at all in recent months was to go kill some ppl for kicks one day when this was changed to a pk zone (no, not low levels =P) I haven't been back since.
Couldn't be any more of a non-issue.0 -
ya ya we all keep seeing how nice it is on Dreamweaver... comm try to get your **** done in HT with Enrage people tabbinga nd one shotting anyone , and i mean ANYONE, who walks through the entrance..... not to mention all the other randoms who think it's funny.0
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frankieraye wrote: »SP fix is just the tip of the iceberg. This update actually has a ton of new stuff that a lot of you will enjoy, including pretty cool content for the PWI veterans out there. High level players especially will be very happy with it.
It's in its final testing phase, and we'll be doing a full-fledged preview very soon, along with a formal announcement of the official release date.
You really should take the word "soon" out of your vocabulary, it's extremely misleading. b:shocked
SP.. fixed "soon"
EG rank 9.. "available "soon".
Soon is within weeks. Your soon expands over months.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Obviously i didn't mean for china to hand over the CODE........ meant send a small patch with the OLD SP in it, can't be that freaking difficult if they have ANY SEMBLANCE of competency and keep the coding from changes in case something's screwed up (course by now we all know they don't)....
Say what? I'm no developer, but that makes absolutely NO sense. It's easier to test things in smaller bits. If something screws up you have to find it, and the more **** there is to look through the longer it takes. If it's even fixed at ALL..... guess there's one reason there's so many glitched parts of the game. lol.......
except that almost every game does extremely large content updates (Expansion Updates) from time to time, and usually does decent sized to fairly large Patch Updates on a much more frequent time frame. Thus quantifying it by saying this makes no sense is kind of moot. The question really is whether Perfect World Entertainment has the resources to manage such large updates and go through the software piece by piece if something does break.
@ the word "soon": Frankie really can't get any more precise than that without allowing us to lock him and the development team into another deadline trap like the one that lead to this thread in the first place and I would wager that Development, upon seeing the problem that the last thread caused, has issued a decree that he never do that again or never permit that to happen again.Acc 1: TolanSky ~ ● Seeker / Daearena ~ Mystic / ThornLily ~ Veno
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Frankie did give himself a timeline. He posted on Sept. 13th:
"The patch with the reversion should be in our version in 3-4 weeks, along with some other cool new content."
It has been 4 weeks since he posted that. He said 3-4. I guess someone just has a poor sense of time?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »And frankie's job is to tell the devs what needs to be fixed... etc etc etc...... Tolan just stop b4 u make yourself look like a idiot. I guess u missed the FIVE HUNDRED page thread on this, then the other two threads after that.......
Frankie SAID (after SPEAKING to the devs) this would be fixed in a couple weeks, 4 at most... well it's been 5 i think, at least 4.....
And quite honestly if it takes more then a WEEK (giving some leeway ehre for time for translation although putting code BACK that was already THERE shouldnt' need any) (was going to say 2 DAYS) to fix something like this they need to go look at other jobs cause they suck at this one.
I've NEVER seen devs fail this horribly in ... well... honestly everything rofl
Obviously you never saw C&C 4 beta. Biggest dev fail ever. Bugs, balance, arifacts, you name it, there was a problem with it. Wasn't even an RTS like other C&C's, was an RTT, yet they insisted on calling it an RTS.0 -
Lunaryl - Heavens Tear wrote: »Frankie did give himself a timeline. He posted on Sept. 13th:
"The patch with the reversion should be in our version in 3-4 weeks, along with some other cool new content."
It has been 4 weeks since he posted that. He said 3-4. I guess someone just has a poor sense of time?
QFT b:cute0 -
more like the whole company has poor... sense lol
EDIT: hey how bout that NEW glitch where you can't click on **** in that invisible box uner the bar and to the left of the mini map? You know, where our incompetent devs were too STUPD to aplha map that rectangle correctly and we can't click on anything that's there?
If there's a mob in that part of the screen..... can't click it, that part of the screen is where u wanna click to move.. can't.... it's getting really damn annoying. b:surrender0
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