So.... who's going to quit over no SP fix?
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Eh frankie never said it would be fixed by tonight lol He gave a rough time estimate for when it *could* be fixed. It's gonna get fixed whenever China has the next big patch ready, pwe can't do it earlier.
/don't care, staying. Why would I quit over something that's not even in the hands of the people managing our pwi lol[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Wow man, try to find an even stupider reason to quit...I
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Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Wow man, try to find an even stupider reason to quit...
You just don't get it dude! SP is such an important place. I mean people go there on a daily bases for the mobs inside. Why farm for 5 minutes to get the 5k coins you need to tele in for FB/BH 29 when you can just quit?0 -
.......... there's more things in there besides FB adn BH and u can't PORT IN TO SP, just the f'ing BH. ALOT OF PEOPLE like to play the freaking game, ya know? not have quests they cant' complete just sittign in their log.......
I swear you'd think after a 500+ page thread and OTHER threads people would f'ing GET that by now.Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »Who the hell cares if SP is pk enabled? You don't need to go in there to advance through the game with the exception of Silver Frost, and I would hope by that time you made a friend or two that can come protect you and kill it for you.
Keep it as is, change it back, I couldn't care less. I enjoy having a pk spot where people actually show up, but if the PvP area goes back to West I won't really care. At least then I can actually get drops b:chuckle
Who cares? Look above..... and when r9 +12 people from a certain guild on here that dont' give a flying rat's **** about anyone else camp it 99% of the time ONE SHOTTING even lvl 90+ that walk through the f'ing doorway (15 times over even after trying to pound it into their heads we have quests to do)....... ya.... it's kinda hard to f'ing get anything done.
You idiots on dreamweaver seem to think that cause the people are being nicer over there that this isnt' a problem.0 -
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: ».......... there's more things in there besides FB adn BH and u can't PORT IN TO SP, just the f'ing BH. ALOT OF PEOPLE like to play the freaking game, ya know? not have quests they cant' complete just sittign in their log.......
I swear you'd think after a 500+ page thread and OTHER threads people would f'ing GET that by now.
Yes by all means, instead of doing 500 other "kill 50 ____ and come back to me" quest you have while save the quests in SP for when the fix comes, just quit right now and get it over with.0 -
Quests go poof after twenty levels moron..... as long as this has been going on it's quite possible for things to have gone poof by now if people outlvl'ed it, and idk... it's been awhile but one or two of those might be needed for one later on to pop up.
still that's besides the point. we shouldn't have to f'ing put **** on hold all because some CS'ed brat with a epeen problem wants to grief low levels..... o wait isn't that against the TOS in the first place?
Considering how many people that actually got ON the forums were and ARE b!tching about this Oke, i'd say you're in the minority here of people that don't care if they get to play the actual GAME or not....0 -
I laugh at people if they leave because of SP.. i'll hope its worse on other servers then, else ppl QQ for nothing <,<105 - 105 - 105 (14th march 2014)
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Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Quests go poof after twenty levels moron..... as long as this has been going on it's quite possible for things to have gone poof by now if people outlvl'ed it, and idk... it's been awhile but one or two of those might be needed for one later on to pop up.
Umm that's only FB tabs and ONLY if you don't pick up your tabs. My 102 BM still has lvl 20 quests. And no, I can tell you right now that other than cultivation, none of the quests in PW are "needed for one later on".
Yeah, except for the fact that the fix is coming. It's not coming "soon enough" so might as well quit instead of doing other quests amirite?Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »still that's besides the point. we shouldn't have to f'ing put **** on hold all because some CS'ed brat with a epeen problem wants to grief low levels..... o wait isn't that against the TOS in the first place?
Considering how many people that actually got ON the forums were and ARE b!tching about this Oke, i'd say you're in the minority here of people that don't care if they get to play the actual GAME or not....
(BTW, get use to sht like this. IRL there are a lot of sht you want or want to do, but can't right away because of other people being d1cks)0 -
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: ».......... there's more things in there besides FB adn BH and u can't PORT IN TO SP, just the f'ing BH. ALOT OF PEOPLE like to play the freaking game, ya know? not have quests they cant' complete just sittign in their log.......
I swear you'd think after a 500+ page thread and OTHER threads people would f'ing GET that by now.
Who cares? Look above..... and when r9 +12 people from a certain guild on here that dont' give a flying rat's **** about anyone else camp it 99% of the time ONE SHOTTING even lvl 90+ that walk through the f'ing doorway (15 times over even after trying to pound it into their heads we have quests to do)....... ya.... it's kinda hard to f'ing get anything done.
You idiots on dreamweaver seem to think that cause the people are being nicer over there that this isnt' a problem.
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize how important it was to kill the mobs for 8k xp. Oh darn, you can't kill Silver Frost the day you get the quest, so the **** what? I rerolled a BM on Loth, I had to sit there with some cultis in my logs for days and I didn't cry about it. So what if you have to hold off a day or two and wait for SP to die down to kill a boss? You'll still get it. A little thing called patience would benefit you.Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Quests go poof after twenty levels moron..... as long as this has been going on it's quite possible for things to have gone poof by now if people outlvl'ed it, and idk... it's been awhile but one or two of those might be needed for one later on to pop up.
still that's besides the point. we shouldn't have to f'ing put **** on hold all because some CS'ed brat with a epeen problem wants to grief low levels..... o wait isn't that against the TOS in the first place?
Considering how many people that actually got ON the forums were and ARE b!tching about this Oke, i'd say you're in the minority here of people that don't care if they get to play the actual GAME or not....
Um... if you level without the quest then what's the big deal? People have always camped low levels, the only difference is now they can do it on PvE servers too. So. What. Learn to deal with it. People get camped from time to time on PvP servers and yet they still manage to level, gee I wonder how they accomplished such a thing! Certainly not by crying about getting killed while trying to do quests they don't even need.0 -
Pick up the quests then, they won't *go poof*. lol
And wow, your server must suck then lol Though I somehow doubt there's a r9 person 24/7 oneshotting everything in sight...
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tbh I was avoiding SP all this time for the pk thing, but lately I entered a couple of times and it wasn't so bad:
on RT the high levels are polite enough to kill you on your way out b:chuckle
anyway, SP is a bad place for it and it should be reverted, as it gonna happen sooner or later.
but is not a reason to quit the game man!
calm down a bit and wait a couple of days, this endless whining is useless, frankie can't do anything about it... ANYTHING.
It's gonna be reverted, you just have to wait for the ****ing patch!
That's all.
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Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Umm that's only FB tabs and ONLY if you don't pick up your tabs. My 102 BM still has lvl 20 quests. And no, I can tell you right now that other than cultivation, none of the quests in PW are "needed for one later on".
Yeah, except for the fact that the fix is coming. It's not coming "soon enough" so might as well quit instead of doing other quests amirite?
(BTW, get use to sht like this. IRL there are a lot of sht you want or want to do, but can't right away because of other people being d1cks)
I think you just proved what kind of player you are and its not one who does all the quests. You dont want to hear people complain... GET THE F*CK OFF THE THREAD. How long did it take you to get to 100? Its quite easy to level to 40... It would be quite easy to SKIP anything to do with SP... PEOPLE WANT TO DO THEM DUMBA$$. We are NOT able to do them because of turds wanna have a play land in a low level questing area. FOUR F*CKING WEEKS is not reasonable time frame for something they had just changed and then Frankie claims they have already implemented in China.
If you wanna be one of the poor turds who races to 100+ only to cry cause they are bored then dont bother coming to this thread cause those of us complaining DO LIKE TO DO EACH AND EVERY QUEST. If you want us to stop complaining then stop stirring the pot with your apathy.0 -
I think you just proved what kind of player you are and its not one who does all the quests. You dont want to hear people complain... GET THE F*CK OFF THE THREAD. How long did it take you to get to 100? Its quite easy to level to 40... It would be quite easy to SKIP anything to do with SP... PEOPLE WANT TO DO THEM DUMBA$$. We are NOT able to do them because of turds wanna have a play land in a low level questing area. FOUR F*CKING WEEKS is not reasonable time frame for something they had just changed and then Frankie claims they have already implemented in China.
If you wanna be one of the poor turds who races to 100+ only to cry cause they are bored then dont bother coming to this thread cause those of us complaining DO LIKE TO DO EACH AND EVERY QUEST. If you want us to stop complaining then stop stirring the pot with your apathy.
Consider I already leveled a BM on DW to 92 the old fashion way through quests, I didn't feel like doing a few hundred of "kill X mobs then come back" quests AGAIN, sorry. I'm not saying I don't want to hear them complaining, as all I've been doing is pointing out the flaw in their logic behind the complains. If you WANT TO DO THEM, by all means learn something called patience, because the fix is coming. I'm just point out the stupidity in quitting because they can't get what they want when they want, right away.0 -
Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »Um... if you level without the quest then what's the big deal? People have always camped low levels, the only difference is now they can do it on PvE servers too. So. What. Learn to deal with it. People get camped from time to time on PvP servers and yet they still manage to level, gee I wonder how they accomplished such a thing! Certainly not by crying about getting killed while trying to do quests they don't even need.
Exactly the reason that most people choose a PvE server - they don't WANT to HAVE to deal with it *rolls eyes in sheer disbelief at the level of ignorance*
In frankie's defence, he did say *should* be within the time given. Annoying that it hasn't happened yet...but oh well...0 -
What Purge said, thnx i dont' have to type it.....
Oke u got a point, it IS coming..... point is it should BE HERE by now if these people (I mean the PW devs and management) didnt' suck at their job so BADLY......
and ya Zan.. you're a idiot.
Edit: Oh and Xain, you're an idiot too..... just pick up the quests but don't do em huh? Ok what happens when we have 20 quests in the log and need to pick something else up? CAN"T FIT MORE THEN THAT LOL
So ya instead we get to leave it in our Find Quests and have all that **** to sort through all the time cause the devs are too damn stupid to revert this quickly so we're able to play the "actual game". Ya..... anyway.....0 -
My small feelings on the topic of SP is on the basis of the type of server I rolled my chars on.
I rolled on a PvE server so I could spend time farming, questing, and playing the game the way I want to play and the way I understand PvE meaning Player VS Environment. I did not roll on a PvP server which is Player VS Player for this reason. I've always hated the generic MMO PK bully that thinks they're all that and a bag of chips cause they can nuke someone questing, must be a real self esteem fix, let's tell Dr. Phil about it eh? b:laugh
Flight in dungeons would be nice since you could get around some things, but the free griefing in the dungeons I have to say is not right. If they want to do it on PvP servers, that's fine, because you agree to enter the PK world when you roll on PvP servers. You know what you're getting into, if not, reroll on PvE.
However, having this PK-fest on PvE servers makes it wonderfully unbalanced and asinine. I would like to know just how many people that have been pissed off about SP are from PvP servers VS PvE ones. If the majority of the people dissenting are from PvE servers, then I say it's justified because it's not in the nature of that server's overall setup to have free zones with no repercussion on the mass PKers when you didn't want it in the first place. PvP server ragers I say don't have a reason to rage, but they probably wouldn't if they know they signed up for it by going on a PvP server.
Tl;dr: Get this b:shutup off of PvE servers since it's not in it's nature to have this set up in a lowbie area. Either make a new dungeon or make a new map for Arena in PvE servers. PvP players... You signed up for a PvP server, your loss.0 -
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Edit: Oh and Xain, you're an idiot too..... just pick up the quests but don't do em huh? Ok what happens when we have 20 quests in the log and need to pick something else up? CAN"T FIT MORE THEN THAT LOL
What's in there... 3 or 4 quests? Well, if they're really that important to you, you surely can spare that bit of space if your quest list.
People who call names and use caps lock when they don't have any logical arguments left
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Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Consider I already leveled a BM on DW to 92 the old fashion way through quests, I didn't feel like doing a few hundred of "kill X mobs then come back" quests AGAIN, sorry. I'm not saying I don't want to hear them complaining, as all I've been doing is pointing out the flaw in their logic behind the complains. If you WANT TO DO THEM, by all means learn something called patience, because the fix is coming. I'm just point out the stupidity in quitting because they can't get what they want when they want, right away.
Well I dont plan to quit... You got me here till its fixed. My point would be its sad to hear so many people complain they dont like something then sit around with their head up the one person who has direct contact with management/developers. Frankie is the community manager. It IS the job of taking those complaints to management and the complaint IS the fact FOUR weeks is NOT acceptable. Frankie in the last month has NOT even made a comment about the issue despite NEW complaints over the issue and would NOT have even made a comment yesterday about it if it were not for the fact people are growing MORE upset. If its out of your hands and you are the community manager you SHOULD at minimum address the issue more then saying its coming soon which is what you said FOUR weeks ago.
This poll wasnt even created cause people actually plan to quit ... it was made to get a comment out of the ONE person who has any contact with China... OUR COMMUNITY MANAGER who has been silent ever since it was said to be completed in 3-4 weeks. Someone hears 3-4 weeks they figure they will just put quests on hold and work on another character. When 4 weeks passes and still not even ONE WORD... that is **** poor communication.
So... if you dont wanna hear the complaints... STAY OUT of the thread. If you dont share the complaint.. GO OPEN YOUR OWN THREAD. We dont go to YOUR threads and **** and try to minimize YOUR complaints. If someone wants to rage quit... FINE. No loss for you is it? The idiots are the people here who are trying to minimize someone elses complaint.
Kritty... I give you respect for making your statement. But for other mods to sit around stiring the fire and calling players names is pathic and very bad example for anyone who represents the game. AND YES if you have MOD next to your name... YOU DO REPRESENT the game and the company. I have sent Frankie 2 private messages about the topic and still have not heard anything. If they want people who are upset to chill they should STOP saying things like SOON or 3-4 weeks (with in that time frame) and they should be making more comments KNOWING this is a hot topic to a large group of people.
Sure there might be a few people who actually leave the game who have played longer then six months but I have a list of NEW players whos introduction to the game came with being one shot in SP the first week it was changed and most of them will NEVER return. I recruited them to the game and now they wont play. If I had that many people leave who just started playing I am sure there were many more people who just found the game and due to HARASSMENT have left. So to anyone over 100 crying about someone with a complaint... cry all you want but this game will choke itself if it cant get something minor fixed in less then FOUR WEEKS.0 -
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »What Purge said, thnx i dont' have to type it.....
Oke u got a point, it IS coming..... point is it should BE HERE by now if these people (I mean the PW devs and management) didnt' suck at their job so BADLY......
and ya Zan.. you're a idiot.
Edit: Oh and Xain, you're an idiot too..... just pick up the quests but don't do em huh? Ok what happens when we have 20 quests in the log and need to pick something else up? CAN"T FIT MORE THEN THAT LOL
So ya instead we get to leave it in our Find Quests and have all that **** to sort through all the time cause the devs are too damn stupid to revert this quickly so we're able to play the "actual game". Ya..... anyway.....
Are you serious.
Don't you feel the least bit of shame or embarrassment to kick up such a fuss? IF you already have too many quests, do those. I can guarantee you the amount of quests where mobs are found exclusively in sp will not clog your list.
And the Find Quest list is quite organized, I don't know what your problem with it is.
Pvp is also part of the game, the Pkers are too playing the "actual game", you simply feel more entitled, even with the vast amount of content low levels do have.0 -
Purge - Raging Tide wrote: »Exactly the reason that most people choose a PvE server - they don't WANT to HAVE to deal with it *rolls eyes in sheer disbelief at the level of ignorance*
In frankie's defence, he did say *should* be within the time given. Annoying that it hasn't happened yet...but oh well...
It's not ignorance at all, I'm well aware of the reason people choose it, but think about it. It's SP. Secret freaking Passage, an instance that isn't NEEDED at all except one boss that if you can't get it you simply come back later. Same concept as oracle hogs, if there's a higher level hogging the oracle mobs you come back later. The other two bosses in there are only needed for quests that give little xp, and if you need to do FB/BH29 you can simply pay 5k and teleport in without worry of being killed.
Sooo yeah, sorry if I don't sympathize with the people whining about it when it's not even a big deal.0 -
Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »What's in there... 3 or 4 quests? Well, if they're really that important to you, you surely can spare that bit of space if your quest list.
People who call names and use caps lock when they don't have any logical arguments left
Dude... if you dont even know what quests are in the building... YOU GOT no valid or logical argument against our complaint. In fact you are doing more to stir the argument then if you took the advice given to us... go out for a walk buddy... take some time away... do some dishes... walk the dog.0 -
_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »Are you serious.
Don't you feel the least bit of shame or embarrassment to kick up such a fuss? IF you already have too many quests, do those. I can guarantee you the amount of quests where mobs are found exclusively in sp will not clog your list.
And the Find Quest list is quite organized, I don't know what your problem with it is.
Pvp is also part of the game, the Pkers are too playing the "actual game", you simply feel more entitled, even with the vast amount of content low levels do have.
Oh I know you arent sticking your nose back in this topic.... Didnt you get enough looking like an idiot on the other thread?0 -
Oh I'm all relaxed, mc freakie outie lol Just tabbing into forums on this slow TT run
Fine, give me a list of all quests that are in there. Show us all how important SP actually is.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh I'm all relaxed, mc freakie outie lol Just tabbing into forums on this slow TT run
Fine, give me a list of all quests that are in there. Show us all how important SP actually is.
Lucky, we're killing bosses so fast I hardly have time to read the forums at the moment.
Oh, and wow.. didn't notice Tell's post from before... someone seems butthurt b:chuckle
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Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh I'm all relaxed, mc freakie outie lol Just tabbing into forums on this slow TT run
Fine, give me a list of all quests that are in there. Show us all how important SP actually is.
There have already been listed time and time again in the other threads and yet you are the one claiming there are very few... I think you got the point to prove as you clearly have lost touch with what quests are there. And I am plenty relaxed too... Im here to stay. So glad you are willing to admit you are just TROLLING the thread.... Stirring the argument as you are BORED. How would it be if someone just popped into your TT and killed you while you were fighting a boss? How is your game play more important then my game play? I dont interfere with yours and yet you feel its ok for you or others to interfere with MY (and others) game play. (And we dont give a **** about PVP servers which seem to be empty)0 -
There have already been listed time and time again in the other threads and yet you are the one claiming there are very few... I think you got the point to prove as you clearly have lost touch with what quests are there. And I am plenty relaxed too... Im here to stay. So glad you are willing to admit you are just TROLLING the thread.... Stirring the argument as you are BORED. How would it be if someone just popped into your TT and killed you while you were fighting a boss? How is your game play more important then my game play? I dont interfere with yours and yet you feel its ok for you or others to interfere with MY (and others) game play. (And we dont give a **** about PVP servers which seem to be empty)
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Oh I'm a troll lol I never denied that
But it's just too fun too people freak out and call you names about stupid stuff
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_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »Are you serious.
Don't you feel the least bit of shame or embarrassment to kick up such a fuss? IF you already have too many quests, do those. I can guarantee you the amount of quests where mobs are found exclusively in sp will not clog your list.
And the Find Quest list is quite organized, I don't know what your problem with it is.
Pvp is also part of the game, the Pkers are too playing the "actual game", you simply feel more entitled, even with the vast amount of content low levels do have.
You think i give a flying f'ing shi!t? Sorry if i'm used to games that deliver fixes when they SAID THEY"LL BE. And ya i do all my quests EVERY GOD DAMN LVL< cause i like doing my quests...... thing is i also leave the new EG quests till LATER when quests start runnign short. and the TB chain for the 60's. But some poeple don't, and some people have f'ing filled up quests logs all the time and dont' know what the hell's what w/o sifting through it for awhile. Maybe your dumbass forgot what it's like to be low level but i've seen it said quite often lately since this fvck up, even in my guild.
And PvP is NOT PART OF THE GAME U F"ING TARD, not when you're on a PVE server. The rare instance where PvP is forced on you you can pretty much avoid even going in there.... But that in itself is f'ing bullsh!t in my opinion. I dont' like PvP, and i dont' like having to worry about some idiotic BRAT getting his jollies off while i'm exploring something new. Yet the few times i tried to run cube or try Dragon Temple etc etc.... can't do it....... So basically i can't play certain part of the game even though i'm on a f'ing PVE SERVER..... go figure....
I swear to god the stupidity from the people on this forum is getting worse and worse..... I'd go back to FFXI if they didn't just just **** everyone over after all this time and giving the game a easy button ( all i'm getting into that.... or it'd be pages....)
Btw, 17% of forum goers at least that have even seen this yet have quit.... that's a pretty high number actually, not to mention all the people that dont' even come here.0
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