So.... who's going to quit over no SP fix?

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear
Tallain_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 197 Arc User
edited October 2011 in General Discussion
With the lack of maintenence again and the promised fix to SP BY TONIGHT straight from the horse's mouth..... who's going to another game? If so there any that actually play this well? (even with thall the bugs this has).... cause i've yet to find another F2P game this good. b:surrender
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  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Sonic Generations November 1st YEAH!!!!

    nope not a MMO but who cares... platforming goodness is always welcome.
  • TolanSky - Heavens Tear
    TolanSky - Heavens Tear Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    we have to bear in mind that Frankie in all likelyhood is not one of the games developers. We also do not know what problems or difficulties the actual game developers may or may not have run into while attempting to implement a fix to the problem. Additionally Frankie gave us a rough estimate. He did not promise that there was no way it could possibly ever take longer than his estimate to fix. That would have been stupid of him to say given the nature of reality in this regard. Reality always seems to take longer than the best estimates of any given individual.
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  • Tallain_ - Heavens Tear
    Tallain_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    bah damn it.. can't edit a poll... shoulda put 4th option... staying for now, if it's not fixed soon I'm leaving........ meh lol

    Um Tolan, we all know damn well frankie isn't a dev. And honestly a 12 year old could fix this ****....
  • SkogDyr - Lost City
    SkogDyr - Lost City Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    TolanSky,

    Did Frankie happen to eat corn last night?
    I figured you would know due to you having your nose so far up his ****...

    TBH, Frankie has no say about this game at all. His sole job is to moderate the moderators, pop in game now and then to show off GM gear and to tell us all that
    the reason everything is going to heck in-game is due to "Client Instability".

    That is what Frankie is paid to do...

    You wouldn't go QQ to the fry cook at McDonalds because you are upset at no ice in your drink...
    You shouldn't go QQing to Frankie for anything to do with this game (outside of claims of "Client Instability").

    b:bye
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Don't care about SP, don't care about EG R9.
  • TolanSky - Heavens Tear
    TolanSky - Heavens Tear Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    TolanSky,

    Did Frankie happen to eat corn last night?
    I figured you would know due to you having your nose so far up his ****...

    TBH, Frankie has no say about this game at all. His sole job is to moderate the moderators, pop in game now and then to show off GM gear and to tell us all that
    the reason everything is going to heck in-game is due to "Client Instability".

    That is what Frankie is paid to do...

    You wouldn't go QQ to the fry cook at McDonalds because you are upset at no ice in your drink...
    You should go QQing to Frankie for anything to do with this game (outside of claims of "Client Instability").

    b:bye

    Ad Hominem Attacks against me are not going to help your case here.

    Also, considering that Frankie has very little to do with how this game is programed or designed other than informing us of the details of what is going on behind the scenes. I fail to see how your idea of complaints directed to him makes any sense at all whatsoever. Technically Frankie isn't even to the best of my knowledge Customer Support. He is at best Customer Relations.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'll probably call it quits in like a month unless something changes.

    Not really mad about a sale or anything. I'm just getting tired of the repetitiveness of the game.

    There's not much to do aside from TW.
    I'm tired of spending hours trying to gear up just for someone to CS something better.
    PK is fairly dead because of sins, let alone r9s.
    A certain "Faction Battles" is due to come out later this year or early next year, and the mere anticipation of it makes me want to leave PWI.

    Anyways if anyone knows of a new MMORPG pm me, I'd be glad to test it out while I wait for Faction Battles."
    Or if you want the titles of some games I'm looking at trying pm me, maybe you'll enjoy something I didn't.
  • OmniX - Heavens Tear
    OmniX - Heavens Tear Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Don't care about SP, don't care about EG R9.

    Then why do you post on all the threads that have to do with EG R9 and SP? Seems all the threads ive read about EG R9 have a response from you saying how much it EG R9 fails and how it wont change their status when they get R9.

    I personally could careless about the SP situation but i don't sit around typing away posting "I dont care" if you don't care. AND this thread isnt even about EG R9 stuff yet you still mentioned it...wtf? lol
  • Tallain_ - Heavens Tear
    Tallain_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    And frankie's job is to tell the devs what needs to be fixed... etc etc etc...... Tolan just stop b4 u make yourself look like a idiot. I guess u missed the FIVE HUNDRED page thread on this, then the other two threads after that.......

    Frankie SAID (after SPEAKING to the devs) this would be fixed in a couple weeks, 4 at most... well it's been 5 i think, at least 4.....

    And quite honestly if it takes more then a WEEK (giving some leeway ehre for time for translation although putting code BACK that was already THERE shouldnt' need any) (was going to say 2 DAYS) to fix something like this they need to go look at other jobs cause they suck at this one.

    I've NEVER seen devs fail this horribly in ... well... honestly everything rofl
  • SkogDyr - Lost City
    SkogDyr - Lost City Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Sorry if you took it as an attack...
    It was meant as an observation, that's all.

    "Also, considering that Frankie has very little to do with how this game is programed or designed other than informing us of the details of what is going on behind the scenes. I fail to see how your idea of complaints directed to him makes any sense at all whatsoever."
    Seriously, you think Frankie has knowledge of what is going on "behind the scenes"?
    He doesn't even know what's going on in-game let alone in China. He is paid to tell us what his coorporate handlers tell him to. That is all.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Frank is our only direct contact with china, why shouldn't he take the shiet.

    Of course, he as a person shouldn't give a damn about our QQs, he clocks out, hits the mainstream. Prob plays *** *** games that have better graphics and awesome GMs on his off days.


    but end of the week, he submits our QQs, collects his better than intern check, and hits a few more tabs.

    **** you PWI-ers... J
    re
  • TolanSky - Heavens Tear
    TolanSky - Heavens Tear Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    And frankie's job is to tell the devs what needs to be fixed... etc etc etc...... Tolan just stop b4 u make yourself look like a idiot. I guess u missed the FIVE HUNDRED page thread on this, then the other two threads after that.......

    Frankie SAID (after SPEAKING to the devs) this would be fixed in a couple weeks, 4 at most... well it's been 5 i think, at least 4.....

    I saw the thread where he said that. However I also know that there have been a few scientific studies done where it has been shown that when people make estimates on how long it will take them to accomplish something, given their best estimate usually under ideal circumstances, they usually under guess the amount of time it will actually take them to accomplish the task by a large margin. This is because reality is not kind enough to give you the ideal circumstances in most situations. Thus usually you want to guess in favor of the least ideal circumstances. Thus Frankie should have guessed a much longer period of time than just 4 weeks if he wanted to be realistic.
    Sorry if you took it as an attack...
    It was meant as an observation, that's all.

    "Also, considering that Frankie has very little to do with how this game is programed or designed other than informing us of the details of what is going on behind the scenes. I fail to see how your idea of complaints directed to him makes any sense at all whatsoever."
    Seriously, you think Frankie has knowledge of what is going on "behind the scenes"?
    He doesn't even know what's going on in-game let alone in China. He is paid to tell us what his coorporate handlers tell him to. That is all.

    I am fully aware of that fact. Still what he is paid to tell us is about as close to a behind the scenes view as we are liable to ever get considering Perfect World Entertainment is under absolutely NO obligation to even tell us as much as they do tell us. It is a privately owned company afterall, not to mention its a privately owned company in an entirely different NATION subject to laws that don't even exist in the United States.
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  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Until better games come into the market with a good company, I'm staying / dont give a f. of SP, I never go there if they want to fix it do it so, if not, leave it and don't bother noobs to start playing in SP, just let them skip all fb/bh29 + mobs in there needed for em.

    If they do that, then they will be happy, as of me, I. DO. NOT. CARE.

    b:bye
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  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Lol.
    If you're wanting to quit over a silly fix that will obviously not happen anytime soon, you may as well quit now.
    Also, don't be surprised if Frankie makes empty promises. It's his job to lie to us to make us "happy".
    client instability roflmao


    This game has 6 year old bugs. I don't see anyone threatening to quit over that.
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  • Tallain_ - Heavens Tear
    Tallain_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Tolan why you bringing fail arguments that sound like scientific studies of their own? lmao Why you trying to rationalize the fact our devs can't do sht right? lmao Dude i've played 3 other mmo's and if **** got screwed up this bad there was a emergency maint. THAT NIGHT and it was fixed...... shoudln't be so hard to fix this (for competent devs), especially since they should ALREADY HAVE the old code.....

    And i guess you missed the part that this wasnt' a guess on frankie's part... he SPOKE to the devs and was told .... 3-4 weeks or w/e. And a time frame like that's just pathetic in itself for this...
  • Tallain_ - Heavens Tear
    Tallain_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I saw the thread where he said that. However I also know that there have been a few scientific studies done where it has been shown that when people make estimates on how long it will take them to accomplish something, given their best estimate usually under ideal circumstances, they usually under guess the amount of time it will actually take them to accomplish the task by a large margin. This is because reality is not kind enough to give you the ideal circumstances in most situations. Thus usually you want to guess in favor of the least ideal circumstances. Thus Frankie should have guessed a much longer period of time than just 4 weeks if he wanted to be realistic.



    I am fully aware of that fact. Still what he is paid to tell us is about as close to a behind the scenes view as we are liable to ever get considering Perfect World Entertainment is under absolutely NO obligation to even tell us as much as they do tell us. It is a privately owned company afterall, not to mention its a privately owned company in an entirely different NATION subject to laws that don't even exist in the United States.

    Um, our version's in the US.... California genius..... we jsut get updates from china since our guys are too cheap with the THOUSANDS they get a month to hire our own devs...
  • SkogDyr - Lost City
    SkogDyr - Lost City Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I saw the thread where he said that. However I also know that there have been a few scientific studies done where it has been shown that when people make estimates on how long it will take them to accomplish something, given their best estimate usually under ideal circumstances, they usually under guess the amount of time it will actually take them to accomplish the task by a large margin. This is because reality is not kind enough to give you the ideal circumstances in most situations. Thus usually you want to guess in favor of the least ideal circumstances. Thus Frankie should have guessed a much longer period of time than just 4 weeks if he wanted to be realistic.



    I am fully aware of that fact. Still what he is paid to tell us is about as close to a behind the scenes view as we are liable to ever get considering Perfect World Entertainment is under absolutely NO obligation to even tell us as much as they do tell us. It is a privately owned company afterall, not to mention its a privately owned company in an entirely different NATION subject to laws that don't even exist in the United States.

    Well, let me tell you that after the letter I got back from PW China, I'm not expecting too much from PWI.

    You see, this company has a habit of slowly killing the games they manage.
    Look at the games tab up at the top of here... you might see that there are already a couple games missing...

    This cash cow is injured. She still gives milk but it's starting to go dry. They expolited her for all she could give and now it's about time for that poor cow to become burgers.
    b:sad
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  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    yuo gais r all soo depresting.....i can gonna go die now

    b:cry
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  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Well, let me tell you that after the letter I got back from PW China, I'm not expecting too much from PWI.

    You see, this company has a habit of slowly killing the games they manage.
    Look at the games tab up at the top of here... you might see that there are already a couple games missing...

    This cash cow is injured. She still gives milk but it's starting to go dry. They expolited her for all she could give and now it's about time for that poor cow to become burgers.
    b:sad

    Meanwhile there are plenty of cloned cows that give lesser quality, but still enjoyable, milk.
    If things go well, there may be a way to increase that quality and make it better than the original. Those newer, improved cloned cows will enjoy all the attention while the original will be butchered up and forgotten...

    And by clones I mean those that are... private in nature, and not quite official.
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  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn....
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  • SkogDyr - Lost City
    SkogDyr - Lost City Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn....

    Quit Yawning on this thread!!! Go to bed!
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  • Dethprowl - Raging Tide
    Dethprowl - Raging Tide Posts: 411 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'll probably call it quits in like a month unless something changes.

    Not really mad about a sale or anything. I'm just getting tired of the repetitiveness of the game.

    There's not much to do aside from TW.
    I'm tired of spending hours trying to gear up just for someone to CS something better.
    PK is fairly dead because of sins, let alone r9s.
    A certain "Faction Battles" is due to come out later this year or early next year, and the mere anticipation of it makes me want to leave PWI.

    Anyways if anyone knows of a new MMORPG pm me, I'd be glad to test it out while I wait for Faction Battles."
    Or if you want the titles of some games I'm looking at trying pm me, maybe you'll enjoy something I didn't.

    Im with you after the first of the new year or whenever Guild Wars 2 and/or Tera online kick in. I dont need to spend 2 grand for R9 to feel good about myself ingame and there really isnt anything but TW after level 100 to keep you interested in this game. I'd rather buy the starter kit for Guild Wars or pay a monthly fee for Tera and be able to earn ingame the things they charge a small fortune for here.
  • bearyflair
    bearyflair Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'm pretty sure that the fix been implemented weeks ago on the Chinese servers, do we now have to complain and ***** about the fix STILL not being here after waiting for it for a month?

    As for the OP's question, not going to quit cuz the only other game I know is way worse than this game in terms of bugs and glitches. They do have a lot of new content but at the price of mass crashes, multiplied unscheduled maints with many extentions of duration and other things.
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Um, our version's in the US.... California genius..... we jsut get updates from china since our guys are too cheap with the THOUSANDS they get a month to hire our own devs...

    Our coding and developing is done in CHina because China owns the game. They can't hire their own devs, even if they wanted to do so. It's the same as books.

    I write a book and own the copyright. I allow you to sell copies of the book at your store, translate the book to your language, maybe hold events for it, and maybe even allow you to put together a few themed events. That doesn't make you the owner of my book. You can't just write an new chapter, change the conclusion, or write a sequel of my book. You can't do anything to the material itself. It's the same concept with PWI and PWCN. China owns the game. Frankie and PWI cannot make changes to it. Frankie can't hire our own devs to make fixes. Frankie can't do anything to the game's code besides localize it (ie change the text from Chinese to English.) Our GMs did what they can and now we just have to wait for the patch. Frankie gave us a rough estimate about how long patches usually take, it was another poster who came up with some hard deadline.
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  • Fip - Dreamweaver
    Fip - Dreamweaver Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    isnt **** online a better version of this game
    olol censored
  • XDracona - Heavens Tear
    XDracona - Heavens Tear Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I will stay but will be only playing my high level. Staying till I find another game anyway.
  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Our coding and developing is done in CHina because China owns the game. They can't hire their own devs, even if they wanted to do so. It's the same as books.

    I write a book and own the copyright. I allow you to sell copies of the book at your store, translate the book to your language, maybe hold events for it, and maybe even allow you to put together a few themed events. That doesn't make you the owner of my book. You can't just write an new chapter, change the conclusion, or write a sequel of my book. You can't do anything to the material itself. It's the same concept with PWI and PWCN. China owns the game. Frankie and PWI cannot make changes to it. Frankie can't hire our own devs to make fixes. Frankie can't do anything to the game's code besides localize it (ie change the text from Chinese to English.) Our GMs did what they can and now we just have to wait for the patch. Frankie gave us a rough estimate about how long patches usually take, it was another poster who came up with some hard deadline.

    You're right but...
    Frankie can't do anything to the game's code besides localize it (ie change the text from Chinese to English.) Our GMs did what they can and now we just have to wait for the patch. Frankie gave us a rough estimate about how long patches usually take, it was another poster who came up with some hard deadline.

    I would think the localizers for the game are in China, since that's where the bundle of patches are put together for us and then sent over a cable that takes months to reach our shores.
    there's no other reason why they take forever
    Frankie does nothing related to game coding.
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  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    SP fix is coming in the upcoming content update tentatively titled " _ _ _ (space) _ _ _ _ _ _ "
  • Maiyr - Lost City
    Maiyr - Lost City Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Our coding and developing is done in CHina because China owns the game. They can't hire their own devs, even if they wanted to do so. It's the same as books.

    I write a book and own the copyright. I allow you to sell copies of the book at your store, translate the book to your language, maybe hold events for it, and maybe even allow you to put together a few themed events. That doesn't make you the owner of my book. You can't just write an new chapter, change the conclusion, or write a sequel of my book. You can't do anything to the material itself. It's the same concept with PWI and PWCN. China owns the game. Frankie and PWI cannot make changes to it. Frankie can't hire our own devs to make fixes. Frankie can't do anything to the game's code besides localize it (ie change the text from Chinese to English.) Our GMs did what they can and now we just have to wait for the patch. Frankie gave us a rough estimate about how long patches usually take, it was another poster who came up with some hard deadline.

    Finally, someone who knows whats hes talking abt. Bunch of whiners before him simply dont have a clue how the coorporate world works. You guys have to realise that frankie or rather pwi has little power or say on the core development/patching etc of the game. They are just reps for the game which is essentially a franchise from china. Pw china still have the final word over almost everything.
  • Darqueanisa - Raging Tide
    Darqueanisa - Raging Tide Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    SP fix is coming in the upcoming content update tentatively titled " _ _ _ (space) _ _ _ _ _ _ "

    If any of you believe that I've got some lottery numbers for ya and some land I can sell ya.

    Bunch of bullb:shutup