So.... who's going to quit over no SP fix?

Nniotora - Lost City

^^ this
exactly my thought also gotta love you cant fail lose refines when failing non cash shoppers actually stand a chance as new comers
EDIT: also lol at ppl thinking frankie could keep this promise news flash we are 3 MONTHS behind CN why would you even think they can give a patch in 3-4 weeks this is jsut stupid and should shoot yourself if you believed this

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear

idk cause he talked to the devs then told us that, idk kinda thought maybe they would rush to fix something they seriously f'ed up for once to please 80% or so of the playerbase at least.......? guess not

Ikarium - Dreamweaver

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

idk cause he talked to the devs then told us that, idk kinda thought maybe they would rush to fix something they seriously f'ed up for once to please 80% or so of the playerbase at least.......? guess not

What? I don't think the 17 ppl that voted "leaving" represent 80% of the playerbase. Its not even 20% of the few people who bothered to vote here.

ScarFury - Lost City

Wow who really cares...first of all..they are gonna just change it back to how it was..not "fix" it cuz it aint broke...ESPECIALLY FOR the PvE servers....it serves as an arena for anyone to do PvP...and apparently since soooo many people dont like this be happy that they are actually going to switch it back....

i dont even see how so many people actually CARE about this....i mean for one...only low lvls trying to do fb29 or bh29 should really have a reason to "NOT LIKE" this change....and TWO...if its THAT bad..JUST TELE into halls of deception and bypass SP all together...problem solved...RPKin people in SP was always fun...now they just made it so blue names can die too lol.

But either way..if u dont like it...Just tele into deception instead of whining to the point where u wanna quit..WOW lol

khethos0001

Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What? I don't think the 17 ppl that voted "leaving" represent 80% of the playerbase. Its not even 20% of the few people who bothered to vote here.

I didn't vote on the poll since I just didn't bother on that b:chuckle

Would I quit over the no SP fix? To me, it helps influence a decision to leave. PWE has had a major backlash in-game and from the very few people that come to the forums (which is still a sizable number of players) to voice their opinion against the decision and they still have not fixed something that we already know to be fixed in the flagship version of PW (China).

If there's one thing that players never like, is knowing they're being treated like second class people. This version pays good money to PWE and that should not be ignored if they have a prayer on staying in business on a global scale. Being treated like second class definitely seems to be the case with PWE's business style for our region.

It looks like there are no true developers on the PWE NA team. All it seems to be is maybe a couple people that walk to the server and upload a file per the instructions from China, not to mention crossing their fingers that it doesn't muck over the system during patching. If there was autonomy in the PWE NA subsidiary, we would not have all these extra issues and multi-month/year long exploits and bugs that just sit there waiting to be fixed. The PWE NA group does not seem to have any authority to fix anything. They sit and wait.

Bearish - Sanctuary

making big deal out of nothing!

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

idk cause he talked to the devs then told us that, idk kinda thought maybe they would rush to fix something they seriously f'ed up for once to please 80% or so of the playerbase at least.......? guess not

"Fix" is part or exist on their yearly project / plan ? b:shocked b:laugh

condo2009

You don't see many lvl 30-40 anymore except alts who can avoid sp quests. New players die in sp, they leave game without spending a dime. So how much future revenue loss do you think this has caused? Quite a bit from what I see. When you have no new cash shoppers, game folds.

SoulPlay - Heavens Tear

there are only like 4 quests in sp 3 start game one at lvl 70 i think

anyway my point all the time sp has been pk, i have been taking people in to kill silver and dismal.

i have taken in people to do their bh's not once have i seen any of my party get wiped nor myself get even hit.

BUT I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN

people are aware of the pk in there and stand n safe zone giving it the jaw about how Q.Q this is and how Q.Q that is and how that sin is a idiot hmm id pk em to lol. b:shutup

Sukinee - Heavens Tear

...are people actually going to quit over this, there are more legit reasons to quit this game, like all the other stuff that is going on.

While I can understand how SP can be frustrating if a newbie gets pk-ed, most of the quests in there are not needed except for OHT culti, and even then you can get an escort and run as a big group inside.

I once had to escort a low level cleric in the fb29 because she died after attempting to stone in, a mob one-shot her in the entrance of the instance, so I escorted her along. Despite the rather large number of red-named players, no one bothered us.

In some ways this is similar to the cube in a sense that, yeah, you may or may not get pk-ed, and you will sometimes run into a pk-er but you can always..

a) log until the instance has less pk-ers OR
b) ask for an escort in the SP from a faction mate

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

Sukinee - Heavens Tear wrote: »

...are people actually going to quit over this, there are more legit reasons to quit this game, like all the other stuff that is going on.

This is just the straw that broke the camels back. Lots of people have held out waiting and waiting for bugs to get fixed, then they throw this at us.
And on top of that.. they don't even fix it when they finally admit they screwed up. They just give us empty hope. People are fed up, and this is what is finally driving them away.

PWE shows us how much it cares about the player base when it doesn't respond in a timely manner. Especially given that they did respond in a timely manner on the CN server.

Envelope - Raging Tide

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

This is just the straw that broke the camels back. Lots of people have held out waiting and waiting for bugs to get fixed, then they throw this at us.
And on top of that.. they don't even fix it when they finally admit they screwed up. They just give us empty hope. People are fed up, and this is what is finally driving them away.

Exactly.

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver

still dont get why lvl 100+ QQ about this

mcfreakie

Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What? I don't think the 17 ppl that voted "leaving" represent 80% of the playerbase. Its not even 20% of the few people who bothered to vote here.

Read the other polls DA. Use your head for something then a hat rack.

mcfreakie

ScarFury - Lost City wrote: »

Wow who really cares...first of all..they are gonna just change it back to how it was..not "fix" it cuz it aint broke...ESPECIALLY FOR the PvE servers....it serves as an arena for anyone to do PvP...and apparently since soooo many people dont like this be happy that they are actually going to switch it back....

i dont even see how so many people actually CARE about this....i mean for one...only low lvls trying to do fb29 or bh29 should really have a reason to "NOT LIKE" this change....and TWO...if its THAT bad..JUST TELE into halls of deception and bypass SP all together...problem solved...RPKin people in SP was always fun...now they just made it so blue names can die too lol.

But either way..if u dont like it...Just tele into deception instead of whining to the point where u wanna quit..WOW lol

If you have no clue why people would be upset then go read the other threads on the topic... it has been spelled out in detail why people are upset. You have given ZERO to the conversation that was not already said and countered. In fact you arent even in the first 20 people to say the same lame excuses.

Ikarium - Dreamweaver

mcfreakie wrote: »

Read the other polls DA. Use your head for something then a hat rack.

This forum does not represent anything close to a sizable percentage of the playerbase population. So this poll, and any other, cannot represent that much of the in-game population. If you used your head, instead of pulling insults that make no sense due to grammatical errors, you would realize this was the only point I was making. Yes, there's other threads, that go on for pages - with the same handful of people arguing back and forth in a lot of cases.
You can't pull numbers out of your *** and claim 80% of the population is upset about this, when noone has any idea how much of the population even truly cares.

HildieGarde - Heavens Tear

The people who are going to leave probably won't bother coming to the forums to vote.

The sad thing is that most likely the majority that quietly leave are the Newbies, the new life blood that this game needs.

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear

Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This forum does not represent anything close to a sizable percentage of the playerbase population. So this poll, and any other, cannot represent that much of the in-game population. If you used your head, instead of pulling insults that make no sense due to grammatical errors, you would realize this was the only point I was making. Yes, there's other threads, that go on for pages - with the same handful of people arguing back and forth in a lot of cases.
You can't pull numbers out of your *** and claim 80% of the population is upset about this, when noone has any idea how much of the population even truly cares.

Yet people who didn't even KNOW about the forums were posting in the 1000+ post 500 or so page thread, not to mention the other threads.....b:bye

And no one said 80% of the population unless i missed something.... I SAID 19% (as it is now) of the people bothering to even LOOK at the forums anymore (it's died off alot since this **** started too) or bothering to even look at this thread have quit. GOD KNOWS how many others that haven't got on here just up and left the game. Hell McFreak's got a whole list of people he met recently that quit, and that's just him. MY guilkd's lost 5 people that went back to WoW of all things lol

Ikarium - Dreamweaver

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And no one said 80% of the population unless i missed something....

You missed yourself saying this only one page back.

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

idk cause he talked to the devs then told us that, idk kinda thought maybe they would rush to fix something they seriously f'ed up for once to please 80% or so of the playerbase at least.......? guess not

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

nevermind the noob seeker who have his head up his ***.

ignore him as you wont get nothing but trolling let them enjoy there silly moronic 1shoot noobie untill its reverted.

let see how dead it get once it does get reverted and i hope no arena shows up
i mean how badly this silly kids show themself they should not get anything but isolation
if i was a gm b:chuckle

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear

o that.. rofl well i said that cause almost everyone was posting in that 500+ page thread a month ago..... and MOST of the playerbase was and is pissed the hell off now, whther they're posting here or not

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear

eh i hope they DO give them something like the arena for free pk... if i can't drop **** io might even try it on my mains lol

Although al the R9's would make it kinda pointless b:surrender

mcfreakie

Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This forum does not represent anything close to a sizable percentage of the player-base population. So this poll, and any other, cannot represent that much of the in-game population. If you used your head, instead of pulling insults that make no sense due to grammatical errors, you would realize this was the only point I was making. Yes, there's other threads, that go on for pages - with the same handful of people arguing back and forth in a lot of cases.
You can't pull numbers out of your *** and claim 80% of the population is upset about this, when no one has any idea how much of the population even truly cares.

...and thanks for keeping the topic hot. Correct YOUR errors and come back for a gold star.

XDracona - Heavens Tear

One of the links in my sig is the link to said thread, Tallain

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear

no, i said 500 page, not 50 :P the 500 + page thread didnt' have a poll. in fact i think it was a former sticky

XDracona - Heavens Tear

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

no, i said 500 page, not 50 :P the 500 + page thread didnt' have a poll. in fact i think it was a former sticky

Ah sorry :P my bad

Ikarium - Dreamweaver

mcfreakie wrote: »

...and thanks for keeping the topic hot. Correct YOUR errors and come back for a gold star.

You're right about the hot topic thing. You and I arguing over grammar and making this thread longer might be construed as a reason to make up numbers about the population. b:bye

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

so your saying DEV should give these spoiled lil brats a place once they miss behave whats gona we next.

NO new nothing for the lil spoiled brats we have a pvp and a pve server for a reason and in pvp server there really no need for sp as we have the whole map YET to fill out takeing them from the so called hot spots wish by the way are ocupied why lv30 quest places
and one wonders why.

see when ur sopused to make ur culty 29 one is adviced to do as a blue name for a reason
the dev do not need to give these spoiled lil brat anything

mcfreakie

Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hot topic about grammatical corrections and pulling percentages and numbers out of your *** is win b:victory
Anyway, this topic is beaten to death. People who felt this was reason to quit have done so. Many probably quit every day for reasons other than a lame PK-enabled zone, but we may as well include them as quitting over this.
Its supposed to be fixed at some point. Yeah, it's been a long while coming. Either quit now or stay the hell out of SP until it does.

But you're right about the hot topic thing. I hope this topic dies off because otherwise you and I arguing over grammar and making this thread longer might be construed as a reason to make up numbers about the population. b:bye

Then why do YOU keep coming back to add to the endless rant? No victory... just you doing the very thing you accuse me and others of doing. THANKS.... love when you keep it on top.

RosangeIa - Heavens Tear

I think what would minimize the griefing in SP at least until it's fixed is having active GMs in there keeping an eye on things... why should we have to do their work for them? If they have strict rules against griefing they should enforce them... which they clearly do not do... not even when tickets are submitted.