Any Venos worried Mystics will make us obsolete?

i dont know which class i like the best im stuck between barb/archer/wizard

Tsubakey - Heavens Tear wrote: »

they will replace wizzards at the very least and compliment venos. having multiple pets tank a boss while no characters take any real dmg will be very nice and luxurious.

mystics and venoe will be doing all the work. and by work i mean healing pets.

wizzies in nirvana? does-not-compute

Mystic = pseudo-veno-cleric that can be male.

Morty - Raging Tide wrote: »

How Do You Go From Being Stuck Between A Barb And A Wiz L.o.l

It's too inappropriate for this forum. b:cry

noo venos will always have a placee

Alphae - Lost City wrote: »

It's not necessarily faster. People who don't lure a lot with Earthflame have no approximation of its range, and have to inch towards whatever they are luring (or they just charge in a la Leeroy and kill themselves).

You're obviously not familiar with it.

cant wait for a male mystic to marry me b:victory so we can solo TTs and make tons of money together the best thing that could happen for a veno is a mystic to squad up with, finally we are no longer a complete solo class we have the perfect partner

Alphae - Lost City wrote: »

It's not necessarily faster. People who don't lure a lot with Earthflame have no approximation of its range, and have to inch towards whatever they are luring (or they just charge in a la Leeroy and kill themselves). As for buffing your herc, do you do things in parties? Does your party know how to catch? Good. You don't need to buff your herc in a timely fashion. If you're luring with your (buffed) herc, chances are it's because he needs to run past a bunch of mobs to get to the one you want, which makes Earthflame with its short range useless anyway. I don't consider being able to use it in tandem with something else making it better than veno luring, it remains inferior and is being used with a superior skill for a double lure. And I haven't any idea where time is so of the essence that a 2 in 1 lure needs to be used--it may speed things up slightly but I really don't think it's terribly essential. The reduction of attack and defense by Earthflame is so tiny and short that the idea that it would give the tank a better head start on aggro than you placing a no-weapon Ironwood on the lured mob is laughable.

There's lots of value in veno luring. I'm pretty sure I never said that venos ONLY should lure. Earthflame is simply inferior, in my opinion.

Not to mention those who 'accidentally' aggro other mobs while trying to use earthflame.

I laugh every time I see that as they are usually the ones who order the veno to stifle because they're going to do the luring of the squad only to end up dead wondering wtf happened.

As for unsummoning and summoning my herc, most of the time I'm far enough away that I can do that without getting hit after a lure and I also buff my herc as it is attacking the boss or mob.

And yes I do believe venos are the best lurers for we have a few different ways to do it which allows us to choose the best method for each circumstance. To say that it is of little value for a veno to lure is absolute bulls**t. Well, That idiotic remark came from Tweakz so We just have to consider the source I suppose.

their res buff is really nice. not only so the cleric doesnt loose exp but also for letting the cleric heal while the player resses himself.

Pennince - Lost City wrote: »

I am a little bit, but I don't think we will be made completely obsolete but I think the classes are suppose to compliment each other.

-veno pets are more customizable, you can have various different types and put whatever skill combos you want on them.

-mystics do not have things like metabolic boost, nature's grace, and soul transfusion for instant refueling without stopping to rest

-there is no possible way to make a successful heavy armor mystic

-mystics can't transfer sparks to other players

mystics will definately not replace venos, because any veno thinking a mystic will be just like a veno only with amale option is going to switch to a mystic, and go "this sucks" and switch back to a veno right when they figure out that other than the fact that mystics have a pet, they're nothing like venos.

as for supplimenting other classes, yes, mystics are anouther support class, and not only can they heal players and their own summoned pets, they can also heal a veno's pet aswell as a veno being able to heal a mystic's summoned pet. so now yall will have anouther class that only very slightly, or not at all hinders the population growth of the veno's class that can heal your pets if no other venos are around.

the only people who should think they have ta worry is clerics, i mean, they should be like "omfg anouther class with decent healing skills? wtf are we gonna do???b:shocked"

and then they'll realize, oh, wait, they don't have all the kick *** buffs clerics got b:laugh

so the only population change we might see is people who prefer to be a heal bot cleric with little to no party buffing capabilities switching from clerics to mystics. and come on? how much of the cleric population wants to be just a heal bot without buff capabilities?

only reason i'm goin to mystic is because they're like a filler class, and i'm a pick up the slack in a party typa person^^

The mystic is going to be hilarious in my opinion.
To sum it up, the mystic is a watered down cleric+veno.

To bad the veno is already a jack of all trades, not especially good at any one thing, but also no horrible weakness class. Having a gimped version of that is going to be funny to watch in PvP.

And I can totally imagine 5aps farmers leveling a mystic high enough just so it has lvl 10 auto rez, then buff their main file with said auto rez before a Nirvana run.

Chances are with these "summon pets" They will only be able to remain out for a certian period of time where as a veno pet can stay out as long as its called out..now lets also not Forget Herc... Herc can tank...mystic doesnt have herc lol. I am also sure these summon pets will have cooldown. Reason i say this is.. The Arden on Jade dynasty is like Archer/Venomancer mix.. They have summon pets that can stay out for maybe 2 or 3 mins at a time and have a long cooldown until skills are upgraded ect.. And like other have said.. A veno with purge/amp/bramble/and even lending hand cant be replaced.. So no im not worried..

Why do you say clerics should be worried?

Clerics, if anything, should be happy. Personally, I would much rather a Cleric res me than a Mystic, because my guess is the Mystic res will have less exp loss than the Cleric. Just as well though, Cleric now has a way to keep from losing exp if there is a squad wipe. Just cast the res buff on the Cleric, if the squad wipes, Cleric can res and have less exp loss, then res the rest of the squad.

Plus, as someone said, they don't have the buffs Clerics have.