why does the playerbase want communistic servers?

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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Lady_Sam - Lost City wrote: »
    Well what about me? What options do I have left? TT drops are useless, I'm not high enough for Nirvana, grinding drops suck.

    Did i mention the 1-2mil per gold?

    so you are the ONLY person in the game who cant get r8? if TTmats are useless then get a TT armor set, not as nice as rank 8 but far cheaper

    also, im sure there are other people as lazy as you that say "grinding drops sucks", sell them your TT mats. if you bust your *** hard enough, you will have 72 gold in no time.
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  • Lady_Sam - Lost City
    Lady_Sam - Lost City Posts: 196 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Well no denying my laziness I suppose b:chuckle but really, I farm 3rd map for 2 hours and I'm lucky to get 200k. I haven't found anywhere with better drop rate yet. So say I get a nice weekend off, I can get maybe 8-10 hours in Unicorn forest. 1.5mil, a whole weekend to get 1 gold.

    And I have a nice set of TT, I'm just sick and tired of rank 8er's calling my armor obsolete.
  • AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Technically, r8/r9 is only benefitial in pvp, TW and the "i aim for the highest branch on pve server, so NO ONE can ever beat me and i make boss's keel over by only pointing at them"- people...
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  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Some people are so damned stupid about this sale. It's not like people weren't cash shopping gear before this. The only thing this sale did was make it easier for more people not have to sport junk gear while hoping one day they'd have 5 APS. If anything this sale was better than the pack one that preceded it.
  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Technically, r8/r9 is only benefitial in pvp, TW and the "i aim for the highest branch on pve server, so NO ONE can ever beat me and i make boss's keel over by only pointing at them"- people...

    Not really. The weapons are better than tt ****... though, yeah, the armor for some classes are more TW-based.
  • Tsubakey - Heavens Tear
    Tsubakey - Heavens Tear Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Technically, r8/r9 is only benefitial in pvp, TW and the "i aim for the highest branch on pve server, so NO ONE can ever beat me and i make boss's keel over by only pointing at them"- people...

    not if you are a sin/caster in which cases its benefitial in both pvp and pve.
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Some people are so damned stupid about this sale. It's not like people weren't cash shopping gear before this. The only thing this sale did was make it easier for more people not have to sport junk gear while hoping one day they'd have 5 APS. If anything this sale was better than the pack one that proceeded it.
    I agree with you. The problem is perception. Generally the same % of this forum have QQ'd since the day anni packs came out last September. There is no pleasing this portion of players, who, it seems, base their fun on e-peen exclusivity and are herded around on a cool kid martyr-like bandwagon to bash the establishment (in this case, PWI) at every move they make (which includes character assassinations and over-analyzing every single thing a GM says to justify it) that goes in the direction a business in their industry would logically go.

    Go into the game and see that pretty much nothing has changed besides in recent events besides more people having Rank 8 and now Rank 9. Changes happen in every game, someone always complains. PWI, while having amongst the worst public relations (sorry Frankie, you stink at it), goes in the direction that paying players go because they want to profit as much as they can. Players dictate the direction not only the gold prices go, but the direction PWI goes. Too bad this negative nancy portion of the forums can't see the forest for the trees.
  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    janus i used your sig if you dont mind.
    im just glad sensible people lik you and zav exist
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    **** i hate how the sigpics work. im having a bit of trouble
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  • Tsubakey - Heavens Tear
    Tsubakey - Heavens Tear Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    i had to steal it to. i get a good chuckle from it.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    b:surrender What i see here is . .
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I love how every update gets compared to communism, even if it's relevant or not.

    All just because the game was developed by a communist nation.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    I love how every update gets compared to communism, even if it's relevant or not.

    All just because the game was developed by a communist nation.

    I wonder if every game made in America gets compared to America's government... b:question
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    I love how every update gets compared to communism, even if it's relevant or not.

    All just because the game was developed by a communist nation.

    ive stated several times this was not a thread about communism
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  • YordaUjain - Dreamweaver
    YordaUjain - Dreamweaver Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Epros - Raging Tide wrote: »
    actually businesses do, but since places like walmart or best buy dont provide forums on their sites, we dont see the massive QQ fest that is companies following their policies set to put themselves ahead while **** their customers. t

    oh and i already told you i coin farm most of my gold


    Epros. As you can already see already around 50 people are unhappy and 1 person is on average. Proof is in the game and forums, ask yourself how many people are unhappy with the game? Ask in game what people think and pwi and on forums and see what happens...

    The point is a huge chunk of players, i'm talking over 80% are "pissed" at pwi. With good reason!

    Just look at the economy for example, it's only going to get worse for you. Eventually coin will become so worthless in value items will be used to trade instead, rendering auctioneer useless. That's if the game lasts that long.

    Now because PWI have taken a huge aspect of the game and made it easy, the lifespan of your typical player has gone down - dramatically. This means most CS players who are happy with their rank 8/9 gear will get bored within 2 - 3 months and quit. Those still coming into the game will find it surprisingly difficult past the level of 80, and begin to realize how bad the game actually is.

    The red duke shouts are already enough to make me gag, and that's just one problem we are facing on a huge chain. Let's not forget that these problems are still merging on now, what's next bringing back perfect horns?

    Bottom line, the rank 8/9 is not the only issue with PWI. Let's face it, and the people speak for themselves like I said every 50 people unhappy means 1 person happy, but that doesn't matter anyway as most of the people who are happy will soon get bored and quit.

    Effectively to them PWI will become a 3D chat room with no big value, as far as PWI is cornered most of their playerbase is only staying because of their friends. Most of which will probably not be charging zen.
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    YordaUjain - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Epros. As you can already see already around 50 people are unhappy and 1 person is on average. Proof is in the game and forums, ask yourself how many people are unhappy with the game? Ask in game what people think and pwi and on forums and see what happens... NERDRAAAAAAGE

    The point is a huge chunk of players, i'm talking over 80% are "pissed" at pwi. With good reason! 80%? where do you get your statistics? who are you to define what reasons are "good"

    Just look at the economy for example, it's only going to get worse for you. Eventually coin will become so worthless in value items will be used to trade instead, rendering auctioneer useless. That's if the game lasts that long. GMs dont set gold price, players do. blame yourself for this

    Now because PWI have taken a huge aspect of the game and made it easy, the lifespan of your typical player has gone down - dramatically. This means most CS players who are happy with their rank 8/9 gear will get bored within 2 - 3 months and quit. Those still coming into the game will find it surprisingly difficult past the level of 80, and begin to realize how bad the game actually is. i know many people that had r8 gear MONTHS ago and are not bored. leveling past 80 is SUPPOSED to be difficult you say you dont want things easy, why is it different when it comes to level?

    The red duke shouts are already enough to make me gag, and that's just one problem we are facing on a huge chain. Let's not forget that these problems are still merging on now, what's next bringing back perfect horns? idk about you but im able to ignore the duke shouts. as for perfect horns? id LOVE to have them back seeing how much they make everyone nerdrage

    Bottom line, the rank 8/9 is not the only issue with PWI. Let's face it, and the people speak for themselves like I said every 50 people unhappy means 1 person happy, but that doesn't matter anyway as most of the people who are happy will soon get bored and quit. rank isnt an issue, if it was it wouldnt exist. people arent going to get bored and quit because PWI evened the playing field.

    Effectively to them PWI will become a 3D chat room with no big value, as far as PWI is cornered most of their playerbase is only staying because of their friends. Most of which will probably not be charging zen. im totally sure you know what the company is thinking. also the value of the game. oh and the fact you apparently know how much zen will be charged.


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  • Anfisa - Lost City
    Anfisa - Lost City Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »
    Agreed.
    You got Yulk to agree with you. Your argument is invalid.
  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Anfisa - Lost City wrote: »
    You got Yulk to agree with you. Your argument is invalid.

    amazed this response took as long as it did to get


    but is yulk not allowed random bouts of intelligence?
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  • Anfisa - Lost City
    Anfisa - Lost City Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Epros - Raging Tide wrote: »
    amazed this response took as long as it did to get


    but is yulk not allowed random bouts of intelligence?
    Nope, I'm pretty sure it violates a rule of the forums.
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Epros - Raging Tide wrote: »
    amazed this response took as long as it did to get


    but is yulk not allowed random bouts of intelligence?

    You never use the word "Yulk" and "intelligence" in the same sentence unless the words "isn't in ANY WAY" are inbetween them.

    Dear OP--
    Originally Posted by YordaUjain - Dreamweaver
    Epros. As you can already see already around 50 people are unhappy and 1 person is on average. Proof is in the game and forums, ask yourself how many people are unhappy with the game? Ask in game what people think and pwi and on forums and see what happens... NERDRAAAAAAGE
    Are you for serious? Nobody is happy about these changes you moron. It's not nerdrage, it's RELEVANT being-pissed-off-ness. With a good reason. Learn to troll better.

    The point is a huge chunk of players, i'm talking over 80% are "pissed" at pwi. With good reason! 80%? where do you get your statistics? who are you to define what reasons are "good"
    Are you like....blind? Or has Yulk's disease finally spread to another poor member of the forums. I'm sorry sir, there's no cure.

    Just look at the economy for example, it's only going to get worse for you. Eventually coin will become so worthless in value items will be used to trade instead, rendering auctioneer useless. That's if the game lasts that long.
    GMs dont set gold price, players do. blame yourself for this
    Wrong, developers set the gold price with boughts of stupid sales. Try again.

    Now because PWI have taken a huge aspect of the game and made it easy, the lifespan of your typical player has gone down - dramatically. This means most CS players who are happy with their rank 8/9 gear will get bored within 2 - 3 months and quit. Those still coming into the game will find it surprisingly difficult past the level of 80, and begin to realize how bad the game actually is.
    i know many people that had r8 gear MONTHS ago and are not bored. leveling past 80 is SUPPOSED to be difficult you say you dont want things easy, why is it different when it comes to level?
    Name 6.

    The red duke shouts are already enough to make me gag, and that's just one problem we are facing on a huge chain. Let's not forget that these problems are still merging on now, what's next bringing back perfect horns?
    idk about you but im able to ignore the duke shouts. as for perfect horns? id LOVE to have them back seeing how much they make everyone nerdrage
    ....Everybody hated the shouts when they came out....everybody celebrated when they left. You really DO have Yulk's disease.

    Bottom line, the rank 8/9 is not the only issue with PWI. Let's face it, and the people speak for themselves like I said every 50 people unhappy means 1 person happy, but that doesn't matter anyway as most of the people who are happy will soon get bored and quit. rank isnt an issue, if it was it wouldnt exist. people arent going to get bored and quit because PWI evened the playing field.
    Sir, you are a moron. Roll a PvP server and THEN come talk about nerdrage.

    Effectively to them PWI will become a 3D chat room with no big value, as far as PWI is cornered most of their playerbase is only staying because of their friends. Most of which will probably not be charging zen. im totally sure you know what the company is thinking. also the value of the game. oh and the fact you apparently know how much zen will be charged.
    Pssst....super nab? If you've been here for more than two years, you can tell a mile away what they're thinking of doing. (unless it's this case....which nobody really predicted.) You sir, are an idiot.

    Learn to play, learn to troll, consult a doctor for that case of stupidity you seem to be suffering from.
  • BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear
    BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    seriously i dont know why every1 is raging.... i personally dont need to be competitve to others, i dont need my refines at +10 or higher, my gear on most of my chars is +3 on mirage stone and pve wise im still able to do anything.

    i dont need to solofarm things after all this is a mmo rpg, so playing together with other ppl is what i expect from a mmo rpg.

    seriously i found enough friends in this game and i dont need to get to 5 aps on any char to farm things.

    now the complains - well thats pretty slow then. my answer : so who cares? i still play this game as it has been 2 yours ago, and i still have fun (i dont run the same thing over and over again) if u need to cash shop for ur items go for it, im not against cser i dont need to. i will try to get the stuff the old hard way, the way a game is supposed to be.
  • Myrrmidonna - Dreamweaver
    Myrrmidonna - Dreamweaver Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    seriously i dont know why every1 is raging.... i personally dont need to be competitve to others, i dont need my refines at +10 or higher, my gear on most of my chars is +3 on mirage stone and pve wise im still able to do anything.

    i dont need to solofarm things after all this is a mmo rpg, so playing together with other ppl is what i expect from a mmo rpg.

    seriously i found enough friends in this game and i dont need to get to 5 aps on any char to farm things.

    now the complains - well thats pretty slow then. my answer : so who cares? i still play this game as it has been 2 yours ago, and i still have fun (i dont run the same thing over and over again) if u need to cash shop for ur items go for it, im not against cser i dont need to. i will try to get the stuff the old hard way, the way a game is supposed to be.

    +1 to that
    PW seems to have gotten into my blood, somehow. I just like spending my time simply enjoying the game, playing with others, etc.
    I do use CS - because I wanted that one specyfic mount and flyer when I moved to this servers - but I rather sell gold and buy used durables from players for 30-50% of the CS price. Thus, I rather like the gold price fluctuations - it makes possible for me to get my expences covered (as little as they may be, veno being my main) just from the differences. Know when to buy and when to sell - and you can get rich. All you need is some starting capital.
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    +1 to the last 2 posts. Not "everyone" is nerdraging. It's a specific group of people, if you pay attention to their history of posts on this forum, or even in game, complaints are very common, and from a business perspective one can only shrug their shoulders at those who are what one would designate as a "perpetual malcontent". In some cases it looks like they got tired of the game so now their goal is to make others leave, even if it's by a tactic of a passive-aggressive persistent negativity.
  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    +1 to the last 2 posts. Not "everyone" is nerdraging.
    100% PvE players have no reasons to rage, true.
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »
    100% PvE players have no reasons to rage, true.
    100% of your post made no sense, true.
  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Read again the posts you valued so high. They come from players who enjoy killing mobs and chatting with friends.

    And that's the only fun thing to do now. Game maybe isn't dead, PvP surely is.


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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Ok I read through most of the posts. Explain to me how wanting OP, Uber, Leet gear to stay reserved for the upper tier without making it available to everyone and their mothers is communist.
  • YordaUjain - Dreamweaver
    YordaUjain - Dreamweaver Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Epros - Raging Tide wrote: »
    my response is in red (thought i would have to spell THAT out for you too)

    ok number 1, picking on my spelling is sad and beyond necessary it just proves how low you are. 2, look at the good sum of posts here and in the forums in general, how many people agree with you, how many don't? Ask in game also.

    I'm pretty sure most of the answers coming back will be the same, I said most. But even most is still too much.

    There wouldn't be any reason to be mad if there wasn't a problem is there? Now regarding gold prices, you are actually wrong Epros. Players set the prices yes, but the developers have a HUGE impact on the prices in general. It's a very complicated system, which I really don't feel like typing up right now. Moving on.

    The perfect horns were terrible, I don't know what your smoking. Seriously... Your telling me running an instance/tw/talking in faction chat with "I'M SPAMING HORNS" HI NEWBS! popping up every 2 seconds? ...On-top of bidding hall, pack spam and wedding spam?
    With that in mind, it would take away talking in game, or at least make it very difficult to read. If that's what you want....fine, continue playing pwib:chuckle

    As for the rank 8/9 issue. Yes, effectively it WILL get boring, you are correct people did have rank 8 before, only a handful of people I might add. However those people worked very hard for the gear it was a "status" which kept them playing. Now that "status" is no longer special, the effect will diminish in time and as a result people will leave - If you want to argue about it, try waiting a few months and actually seeing what happens yourself.

    On a side note, leveling to 80 is not difficult. FC and Hypers make leveling way too easy, ontop of CS and BH. It's anything but difficult. But hey this is just another issue with PWI, but we arn't going there so moving on.

    Now going back to my above comment. Look at you, then look at the many, many people who are unhappy. I count about 20 threads... What does that say Epros? You may enjoy the game, but if things continue like then PWI is no better then a private server. In which case you can expect war soul weapons popping up next.b:bye
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Why don't all of you take a rest for a bit ?
    If you keep continue, it would be bad for your health. b:pleased

    After resting you can continue again from what you left. b:victory
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  • YordaUjain - Dreamweaver
    YordaUjain - Dreamweaver Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Why don't all of you take a rest for a bit ?
    If you keep continue, it would be bad for your health. b:pleased

    After resting you can continue again from what you left. b:victory

    Eventually it'll die downb:chuckle might take a few weeks though.
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