5aps tt nirvana farming solution

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Admit I didn't realize the 650% base. But you get less atk per str than a BM, and I'm fairly sure anyway that base attack + fist mastery x 500% is still better than base attack x 650%. If you want to hit 4.0 base, you're gonna have to go fist/claw. Which means neglecting your magic ability completely to compete with the stats of a fist BM. Basically you become an auto-attack 4.0 machine with no skills unless you mess around with weapon switching for simple debuffs.

And you can't permaspark. That reduces your damage a lot too.

And where you getting +7% crit? o.o

you should read the damage formula

super easy version for str based mele for all classes (1+mastery+spark+procs+str/150)(rings+weapon+phys adds)

note that str gives the same boost for each class

650%+base str

vs 500%+75%+135%(demon DBB)+ base str =710%+base str so bm's do have a higher % multiplier

wind sheild costs 35 energy its spamable on a high mag geni so a full int veno would be 5 aps

hotkeying weapons is complicated? weird because instead fo the 2 a fist veno would need most bm's i know have about 5-7. really how hard is #weapon>fox form>debuff>crit buff>attack for 5 seconds>human>IW>spark? no need for perfect timeing as our cast cancle chains do

is it in any way a good idea for a pvp build? no is it exelent for pve farming yes

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Is "weapon>fox form>debuff>crit buff>attack for 5 seconds>human>IW>spark" really going to outdamage a 5.0 fist BM going for a straight forward spark+attack though, taking server lag and casting into account?

tbh a veno with sage degen a DD pet and sage amp will out damage a 5 aps bm in a 6 man squad it just will not take aggro from its dmaage

the demon 5 aps veno has a more damageing amp and slightly lower damage than a 5 aps bm spaming DBB cancle

this isnt counting the 100% debuff on demon IW or the myriads

so the veno's individual DD is lower but gives more contribution to the squad

Ruli - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Give the bosses reflect, that way barbs whom SHOULD be tanking bosses can start to do the job they was designed too do, they been healed anyway. An the TT's can be re tweeked too reflect that. Might make the 5 aps peeps think twice about it an basicly soloing somthing that needs a party. Then all the other nasties can permantly be removed an people can farm TT's together again.

Just a thoughtb:pleased
Origional idea subbmitted by FooFooKity

But than you can only have ranged DDs or you would need like 3 clerics to run TT, what a horrible idea really lol

Mele DDs would go through an entire gold charm if they got reflected every time they hit the boss.

What if the boss did 5.0 at melee range? His quicken is random, quick casting, and doesn't last long.

Ruli - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Give the bosses reflect, that way barbs whom SHOULD be tanking bosses can start to do the job they was designed too do, they been healed anyway. An the TT's can be re tweeked too reflect that. Might make the 5 aps peeps think twice about it an basicly soloing somthing that needs a party. Then all the other nasties can permantly be removed an people can farm TT's together again.

Just a thoughtb:pleased
Origional idea subbmitted by FooFooKity

Not a good idea.
Who are you going to have as a DD for this kinda run? Reflect would still hurt melee DD's. And, why would a melee damage dealer run TT
or nirvana at all if higher aps makes no point? Farming money for better fashion perhaps. Or to get a few more attack and defense levels.