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Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »Because totally fb51 is the only instance with a 20/20/20 (or even less!) quest and not enough mobs in there. b:bye0
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Because this post had totally a lot to do with why I mentioned Warriors to begin with. b:bye
Never had to go back to the repops & never had to repeat the instance for warriors on FB51's 8/8/8. Sorry but too many take the direct route to the bosses & forget they've only gone through about 40% of the dungeon in total. There's PLENTY of warriors in that place, without repops or re-openings.0 -
Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »Never had to go back to the repops & never had to repeat the instance for warriors on FB51's 8/8/8. Sorry but too many take the direct route to the bosses & forget they've only gone through about 40% of the dungeon in total. There's PLENTY of warriors in that place, without repops or re-openings.
This. I never had any problems with that quest when I did it on my chars or when doing it for someone else. Nowadays people just tell them to wait for their BHs though.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »Never had to go back to the repops & never had to repeat the instance for warriors on FB51's 8/8/8. Sorry but too many take the direct route to the bosses & forget they've only gone through about 40% of the dungeon in total. There's PLENTY of warriors in that place, without repops or re-openings.
There is no guarantee whatsoever by taking a direct route to bosses that you get the 8 quest drops required. I remember getting it done in my first char's FB51 when we killed the ones that respawned, following having to go back for the 3rd tab, and obviously not having a high level, high DPS BM or DD in squad like mine who could kill each boss in 5-10 seconds.
So how about that 20x3 in FB79? How many 3-3's does it take to get an orange mat? I can only wonder which turn responses to my posts will take now.0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Oh well, I suppose I'll just play along then since we want to venture out in left field on some meaningless pedantic one-upsmanship..
There is no guarantee whatsoever by taking a direct route to bosses that you get the 8 quest drops required. I remember getting it done in my first char's FB51 when we killed the ones that respawned, following having to go back for the 3rd tab, and obviously not having a high level, high DPS BM or DD in squad like mine who could kill each boss in 5-10 seconds.
So how about that 20x3 in FB79? How many 3-3's does it take to get an orange mat? I can only wonder which turn responses to my posts will take now.
She said:Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »Never had to go back to the repops & never had to repeat the instance for warriors on FB51's 8/8/8. Sorry but too many take the direct route to the bosses & forget they've only gone through about 40% of the dungeon in total. There's PLENTY of warriors in that place, without repops or re-openings.
Which means taking the direct route is not the best idea unless you want to wait for the mobs to respawn.
In case I happen to run a FB51 I will always run through it normally and then back-track if needed.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Yes, 24 hours, because there aren't any Warriors (and other walkers) who re-spawn in 15 minutes.. right? Have you been to FB51 like.. ever? If so, might not have made such a foolish retort.
For the record...there is NO reason you cannot get all of the mobs done in one run.
I have done it on more then a few alts and in tons of fb's. ijs...
Anyone who does not get it done in one run = *sigh*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
"Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
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Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »She said:
Which means taking the direct route is not the best idea unless you want to wait for the mobs to respawn.0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Really? And should a player have their tabs when doing an FB51 too? Just curious, while we're completely on subject. (this is also for RedsRose)
On all my characters & all the friends who's characters i've taken through FB51, they have all their tabs (requiring 1 exit to get final tab), the added Myriad Wyverntail quest from Misfortune, the 1/2/3 quest, & the 8/8/8 quest. And we get them all done for whoever the FB is for. You see back in the day we believed in helping people do all their quests in any FB where its possible in a single run (so obviously this ends at FB69 202020 time). FB19-FB59 we always made sure they got everything done, even verifying they had the quests before going in & not pummelling through all the mobs with the FBer out of range. Its part of the responsibility of helping with an FB.0 -
Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »On all my characters & all the friends who's characters i've taken through FB51, they have all their tabs (requiring 1 exit to get final tab), the added Myriad Wyverntail quest from Misfortune, the 1/2/3 quest, & the 8/8/8 quest. And we get them all done for whoever the FB is for. You see back in the day we believed in helping people do all their quests in any FB where its possible in a single run (so obviously this ends at FB69 202020 time). FB19-FB59 we always made sure they got everything done, even verifying they had the quests before going in & not pummelling through all the mobs with the FBer out of range. Its part of the responsibility of helping with an FB.0
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Really? And should a player have their tabs when doing an FB51 too? Just curious, while we're completely on subject. (this is also for RedsRose)
If you are calling it an FB, then yes...they should have at least 2 of the 3 tabs. Otherwise it would not be an FB. -.-
I am not sure where you are going with this as I ONLY commented on the fact that you CAN get all of the mobs in one run through FB51.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
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not poorly programed but was designed to reuse resource instead of creating new ones (new objects in programming) and get more memory occupied but obviously they failed somewhere and probably dont bother reworking the code just doing a workaround. thats why sometimes some people that went offline/dc can get in other people instances like FC. they reuse resources even in the most cheapest way
This instance glitch only occurred if you were disconected or logged out (for more than 10 minutes) inside of an instance with an instance identifier still tied to you. If you are in an instance actively, nobody will port in or spawn in. Someone may log in with an old identifier and temporarily appear an a current instance but that is not the same thing.
How this relates to an instance staying open as long as you are in it? Please explain.Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »Because totally fb51 is the only instance with a 20/20/20 (or even less!) quest and not enough mobs in there. b:bye
Borsuc, again, you're a moron. You can easily get all quest mobs in one run in FB51 without having to reset the instance or wait for mobs to respawn. Want me to show you the route?
FB51 doesn't have a 20/20/20, it has an 8/8/8. You need to get drop items. There are enough mobs to get this in one run.
FB69 has a 20/20/20. There are not enough mobs in FB69 to do your 20/20/20 in one run. There are not enough Deadmarsh Adalwolves.
That's the real problem I have with you. You always state things as fact when you're just talking out your ***. You don't even have a clue what you're saying. It's not a lie, you're too stupid for that, you're just an idiot.MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »It be amusing watching michael go.
>:3
^.^
*deleted irrelevant stuff that did not cover your mistake*
("')(O.o)("')
missa thinkin yousa ne to eaten some more fiber and yousa ne some sleepin cause yousa only make sense to rodents and brain damaged children.
hamster might hear soon LucasArts hiring for a new mascot, they be payin mighty nice oats so you can eats yourself to bliss. Mr Dark thinks that it might raise your iq a little.
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Ahh. Should I do my FB51 at 51 or like level 101?
<_< 51 of course, even tho i sense strong sarcasm in your comment, i dont know why you would be tho.0 -
b:shocked But if no one cashed shopped... we would have no fashion *visible panic* b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Borsuc, again, you're a moron. You can easily get all quest mobs in one run in FB51 without having to reset the instance or wait for mobs to respawn. Want me to show you the route?
FB51 doesn't have a 20/20/20, it has an 8/8/8. You need to get drop items. There are enough mobs to get this in one run.
FB69 has a 20/20/20. There are not enough mobs in FB69 to do your 20/20/20 in one run. There are not enough Deadmarsh Adalwolves.
That's the real problem I have with you. You always state things as fact when you're just talking out your ***. You don't even have a clue what you're saying. It's not a lie, you're too stupid for that, you're just an idiot.
And yes fb51 has a drop based quest. Potentially you can't get items in one run but that wasn't even the point.
Are you so stupid to not see the point? He believed that you can't get them without mobs respawning -- it doesn't matter if this is true or not. I countered by saying fb69 (for example) is similar. So the respawn time of walkers has nothing to do with completing the quest. Because he seemed to think it was proving it was intended or something, I don't know.
So grow some common sense or learn to read arguments I'm replying to. b:bye0 -
Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »*deleted mentally challenged nonsense*
Do you even really remember what you said? You said there weren't enough mobs in there. You're an idiot. There are enough mobs in there. I've never run a FB51 I didn't get all the mobs in one run.
Go away. Come back when you know how to run a lowbie fb.
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »I've not made any mistake in this particular topic, imo.Michael_dark - Lost City wrote:*deleted irrelevant stuff that did not cover your mistake*
*Part 2 of trap card activated Go Ego Smack!....sheesh Michael took quite some time to move on.*
Has you wondered why you be talking about the game's instances and it's issues in a thread about:_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Now we can see who cash shops or not by looking at their forum profile! this is win.
Time to see who REALLY cash shops when they claim to be F2P
Redsrose
b:chuckle
Also don't be silly.
Me make too much sense sometimes.
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Which be part of the reason why me alter the translator's speech patterns.
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »This instance glitch only occurred if you were disconected or logged out (for more than 10 minutes) inside of an instance with an instance identifier still tied to you. If you are in an instance actively, nobody will port in or spawn in. Someone may log in with an old identifier and temporarily appear an a current instance but that is not the same thing.
How this relates to an instance staying open as long as you are in it? Please explain.
of course an instance was designed to stay open as long as players were in there, to finish what they have to do and they expected from players to leave after they finish but since they didnt and since every mob to have a respawn time... they had to add a timer, like every other game had it in the first place. it was patched because it wasnt intended to be like that, player were exploiting this.0 -
MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »b:chuckle
Also don't be silly.
Me make too much sense sometimes.
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Which be part of the reason why me alter the translator's speech patterns.
x.x'
No, your fixation with acting like an adolescent is actually quite interesting. Publicly, I can't relate, but I understand. When you act like this privately? Red flags pop up.
Mr Hampsta, it's time for your medication.
b:byehow is this related with the initial question which i tried to explain it, why mobs have a respawn timer? we went from one thing to another but anyway, yes it happened for others that logged out/dc to pop in someone else active instance. why is happening in the first place? i called that poor programming or bug never fixed, lots of things are poorly programmed in this game engine anyway. im pretty sure if most of the players will do that, instance saving, the buffer will get full at some point and i dont know what will happen... cant enter instance or pop in others instance? since FC is more populated i see why is happening more often there.
of course an instance was designed to stay open as long as players were in there, to finish what they have to do and they expected from players to leave after they finish but since they didnt and since every mob to have a respawn time... they had to add a timer, like every other game had it in the first place. it was patched because it wasnt intended to be like that, player were exploiting this.
Having the recycling instance identifiers is a sign of poor, lazy or misguided programming? Perhaps this was actually discussed during the coding stages. Since you seem to have an intimiate knowledge of exactly what was or wasn't discussed or expressed by the developers when they were coding this, can you enlighten us on this in more detail please?
Having the instance not kick you out when there wasn't a timer doesn't reflect on this, it was working as intended. Mobs respawning is not poor programming, but a necessary mechanic of the game. One can say that HH bosses weren't intended to respawn, but then why the 20 hour limit as opposed to the 24 hour limit on world bosses? You can blow off any suspicion that there was no thought involved to that, but that's an assumption. We don't know if there was or wasn't. Or at least I don't, I'm not privy to the development notes or original source code.
And again, you're also assuming that instance identifiers have some sort of number. What number is that?
Please enlighten us to why you decided to code the instance tags the way they were done.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
how is this related with the initial question which i tried to explain it, why mobs have a respawn timer? Because mobs are suppose to respawn otherwise we would run out of mobs to kill. we went from one thing to another but anyway, yes it happened for others that logged out/dc to pop in someone else active instance. why is happening in the first place? i called that poor programming or bug never fixed, lots of things are poorly programmed in this game engine anyway. im pretty sure if most of the players will do that, instance saving, the buffer will get full at some point and i dont know what will happen... cant enter instance or pop in others instance? since FC is more populated i see why is happening more often there. Because mobs are what gives quite a bit of exp and tis faster to just go out and walk back in to reset it.
of course an instance was designed to stay open as long as players were in there, to finish what they have to do and they expected from players to leave after they finish but since they didnt and since every mob to have a respawn time... they had to add a timer, like every other game had it in the first place. it was patched because it wasnt intended to be like that, player were exploiting this.
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b:avoidMichael_dark - Lost City wrote: »No, your fixation with acting like an adolescent is actually quite interesting. Publicly, I can't relate, but I understand. When you act like this privately? Red flags pop up.
Mr Hampsta, it's time for your medication.
b:bye
O.o'
Me acting like an adolescent? (Me presume you mean a human, ours end in a few weeks and doesn't have any noticeably behavioral quirks that humans do.)
While you be the one attempting to belittle my brain size and mental capabilities?
waffles very amusing. ^.^
xD
Also you has made a mistake in this thread.
You has been trolled hard to be talking about instances and it's flaws in a thread about the new core system thingy.
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Hamster....Do you run around your room on all fours in your spare time, while making very annoying little squeaks? If so then may I ask who cleans your cage when you take a poopie? I would assume your motherb:shutup.0
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Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »Hamster....Do you run around your room on all fours in your spare time, while making very annoying little squeaks? If so then may I ask who cleans your cage when you take a poopie? I would assume your motherb:shutup.
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Me don't bother running around on the floor in me spare time.
Me don't live in a cage.
Me live in the offices of PWI.
Me also has certain devices which be beyond your comprehension to take care of any waste products me or my projects produce.
And me live alone with occasional visits from my colleagues.
o.O
Also me mother be located in the great city (? that be about as close of a translation me can get.)darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
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MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »You has been trolled hard to be talking about instances and it's flaws in a thread about the new core system thingy.
b:chuckle
1) Trolled? The people making the assumptions about instances actually believe what they're typing.
2) This isnt' a thread about the new core system. This is a troll thread originally aimed at Rose mocking the fact she farmed her 8jun. I guess you missed the black text in the first post. Not a very observant rodent. Perhaps you've been eating sugar again.
Yes, you do live on another planet don't you.Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »Hamster....Do you run around your room on all fours in your spare time, while making very annoying little squeaks? If so then may I ask who cleans your cage when you take a poopie? I would assume your motherb:shutup.
lol. You win.
b:chuckleI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »?
Me don't bother running around on the floor in me spare time.
Me don't live in a cage.
Me live in the offices of PWI.
Me also has certain devices which be beyond your comprehension to take care of any waste products me or my projects produce.
And me live alone with occasional visits from my colleagues.
o.O
Also me mother be located in the great city (? that be about as close of a translation me can get.)
When your colleagues visit what is the first thing they say? "Omg it smells like hamster **** again >.<' ". Then you look at them with those cute hamster eyes and say "squeak".0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »1) Trolled? The people making the assumptions about instances actually believe what they're typing.
2) This isnt' a thread about the new core system. This is a troll thread originally aimed at Rose mocking the fact she farmed her 8jun. I guess you missed the black text in the first post. Not a very observant rodent. Perhaps you've been eating sugar again.
Yes, you do live on another planet don't you.
lol. You win.
b:chuckle
Yes trolled._Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Now we can see who cash shops or not by looking at their forum profile! this is win.
Time to see who REALLY cash shops when they claim to be F2P
Redsrose
It be aimed at people *note moar then one* who "REALLY cash shop when they claim to be F2P" while merely pointing at Reds as one of the possible suspects.
b:bye
And me still live on Earth.
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Me only lived in another planet when me required certain....conditions for part of me research.
Also me can see in a wider color spectrum with more clarity then you can, the black stands out quite clearly to me. b:byedarthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
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Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »When your colleagues visit what is the first thing they say? "Omg it smells like hamster **** again >.<' ". Then you look at them with those cute hamster eyes and say "squeak". Then they all go to the watercooler or coffee station and whisper about how much of a freak he is and contemplate offering him to come to a party they're having so they can laugh at him.
Fixed it for ya!MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »Yes trolled.
I thought you were a friend of Rose's?
You didn't even notice this was a troll thread aimed directly at her?
lol
Bad little vermin. You should be shot. Like most ground squirrels. They carry contagious diseases and should be eliminated.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Fixed it for ya!Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »When your colleagues visit what is the first thing they say? "Omg it smells like hamster **** again >.<' ". Then you look at them with those cute hamster eyes and say "squeak".
Pift, me don't smell at all.
o_O'
Would be rather hard to reside in an office complex if me had a scent.
b:bye
Also the first thing they would "say" would most likely be an exchange of information.Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Fixed it for ya!
I thought you were a friend of Rose's?
You didn't even notice this was a troll thread aimed directly at her?
lol
Bad little vermin. You should be shot. Like most ground squirrels. They carry contagious diseases and should be eliminated.
Me wouldn't consider that "directly"
Also humans carry contagious diseases.
Me merely manufacture some of them. (Not deadly, might seem that way but that be because you be only human and it be all for your benefit...)
And why be you violently hating on the ground squirrels?......You silly primitive.
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frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »Pift, me don't smell at all.
o_O'
Would be rather hard to reside in an office complex if me had a scent.
b:bye
Also the first thing they would "say" would most likely be an exchange of information.
Correct.
There Exchange:"Why do you smell like poopie"
Your Exchange:"Squeak"
There Exchange:Do you want us to clean your complex(cage)
Your Exchange:"Squeaking in terror while clawing at them with your paw paws".
Im so boredb:surrender.0 -
MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »Me wouldn't consider that "directly"
Go look at the first post. Highlight it or quote it. If you don't see how that isn't direct, look at one of their following posts directly calling her out.
Sad little hampster, and a bad friend too.
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Go look at the first post. Highlight it or quote it. If you don't see how that isn't direct, look at one of their following posts directly calling her out.
Sad little hampster, and a bad friend too.
tsk tsk.
Again this be merely yet another flaw of humans and their languages (especially one as odd as english.)_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Now we can see who cash shops or not by looking at their forum profile! this is win.
Time to see who REALLY cash shops when they claim to be F2P
Redsrose
Being very technocal and following the "rules" of the English language, "their" be a term for multiple people.
Bloody has to say "She" to be direct.
b:bye
You fail at your own language.
(>.<)'
tsk tsk Michael.
And me am well aware Reds farmed her rank8. Hence there be no reason to be upset or take that "hidden" part seriously.
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Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »Again this be merely yet another flaw of humans and their languages (especially one as odd as english.)
Did you actually go look?
How is that not directly a troll thread bashing Rose?
Hamster logic is a fallacy in itself.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0
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