[Discussion about the new UI]

Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »

If you survived this long without a convenient feature, more power to you, but the rest of us who bothered to find out and use the little shortcuts in the game and adapted our play style around it find it exceedingly irritating.

Agreed, that quick way to jump out to WASD movement was critical.

Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »

Here it is in a nutshell:

I want to see the thread where everyone has been complaining for months about the horrible UI, the one that prompted this change.

I'm assuming its the anti-horn post. Cause this change in the chat box, is a 100% rip off of the BoI chat box (including the inability to use escape to clear your currently typed message). And BoI uses a special symbol for their "horn chat" (called warcry). I think this is allowing them to just "improve" horn chat (not addressing our issues with horn chat however).

I remember the UI change from Age of Spirits to Rising Tide.

It was generally liked, took a bit of getting used to though, but it wasn't considered horrible at the beginning and our biggest problem with it was the loss of our EXP bars above our heads.

This change, on the other hand.... well.... I'm pretty sure all the threads about this speak for themselves. Perhaps they should consult the players before making unwanted "improvements" next time? Maybe?

I still think the new tags in the chat box make the game look like it was designed in the mid 80's.

Kephras - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Aside from the broken menus, which I expect will get fixed, the only change I really hate with any measurable degree is those stupid unnecessary channel boxes. [World] chat is yellow. We know. Faction is teal, squad is green, ect. The colors have a learning curve a goldfish with dementia could handle, the boxes are completely redundant. Hopefully those can be removed and the earth may resume spinning on its correct axis.

Honestly that's all I care about too. I can even deal with the glitches made by the font change, honestly. I've dealt with it before and I still can, but I honestly hate those boxes.

I still can't believe they call our squads team now and our factions guilds... it's so wrong and shows so well how little the devs know of their player base... *wants overpaint the guild/team icons*

frankieraye wrote: »

It's true, no one really complained about the old UI, but not all changes are fixes, some are just improvements. I believe the UI change was meant as an improvement, and while it does need a little more work to make everything fit nicely, I really think it does make the game look more sleek and modern.

Well thats true, the last expansion wasn't really needed either. No one was griping about the fact that there was only 6 classes.

It needs a lot of work, mainly where they messed stuff up. Everyone hates the tags, I personally like them I think it makes the chat more organized looking. But it is something they could implement that could be turned on and off just like the chat channels.

Really.. I tried to do a thread of all the good but it was slammed and moved to lower depths b/c no 1 angry wants to think any of this is positive. I may not like ALL of the updates but I really think it was a step in the right direction.

I am super excited about the new stuff coming up too. Thnx!

Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »

I agree with you on all the things you said need to be fixed. I think there's something you're not getting though - for ME and ALOT of others, IT ACTUALLY GIVES US A HEADACHE LOOKING AT IT. I'm not joking. It's painful. I also wear glasses and play on a 26'' monitor higher than 1280x resolution. For me, it's terrible. For you it's not. I'm jealous, seriously.

Along those lines, a question for you: When the old UI was around, were you aware of any single person that complained about it? None of the 110 people in my (lvl3, never going to TW now) guild did! None of my friends in my always-full friends list did!

And on a sidenote, I'm not one to look for things to complain about. I despise those people. I've played for over a year and a half and never posted ANYTHING in the forums until this last update.

To each his/her own, just my 2 cents... ^^

Oh no, your opinion is just as valid as mine, and so is everyone else's. My opinion holds equal value, no more, no less. The point I was trying to make is that this is a cosmetic change, for the most part. If it is giving you headaches, then that is not a good thing. But then again, the human eye is not meant to adjust to such things as suddent changes like this, so it is obvious it was going to give headaches. I thinkt he errors with the genie menu and others are the root cause of this, if they had not been left for us to deal with, I think everyone would have adjusted a little better.
Of course, I don't look at the chat very often, as I am a loner ingame. I don't do factions, I have very few friends, and I solo pretty much everything. That may be why I am not getting a headache.
Which, honestly, this is why I think this game should give the option of choosing your own chat layout. I have seen other MMO's I played in the past do such a thing, they even allowed the use of player-made layouts or "skins" as they were called, for the game. Unfortunately, most of the higher-ups seems extremely stingy(to a stupid level) as far as game files go, so this kind of thing will most likely not be happening.

teethewicked wrote: »

That argument has been used in other subjects of controversy in PWI(Same-sex marriage for one) and it FAILS. Because there are already things in the game that break that argument, such as the "modern" fashions we have available.

[FORUM]ViciousMinx How does it fail? Modern fashions should never have been introduced in to this game to begin with. Same sex marriage has NOT been included because it is recent abomination on our culture here in the west. Last I heard it is also illegal in most countries of the world. Why would it be included ?

teethewicked wrote: »

Oh no, your opinion is just as valid as mine, and so is everyone else's. My opinion holds equal value, no more, no less. The point I was trying to make is that this is a cosmetic change, for the most part. If it is giving you headaches, then that is not a good thing. But then again, the human eye is not meant to adjust to such things as suddent changes like this, so it is obvious it was going to give headaches. I thinkt he errors with the genie menu and others are the root cause of this, if they had not been left for us to deal with, I think everyone would have adjusted a little better.
Of course, I don't look at the chat very often, as I am a loner ingame. I don't do factions, I have very few friends, and I solo pretty much everything. That may be why I am not getting a headache.
Which, honestly, this is why I think this game should give the option of choosing your own chat layout. I have seen other MMO's I played in the past do such a thing, they even allowed the use of player-made layouts or "skins" as they were called, for the game. Unfortunately, most of the higher-ups seems extremely stingy(to a stupid level) as far as game files go, so this kind of thing will most likely not be happening.

Skins, yes ^^ very good.. options! xD

please change all fonts back to the original b:shocked

personally, I've heard no complaints of people with bad vision that they couldn't read it, nor will blind ppl be helped with this

it's just horror to see our so familiar UI ruined (just have a look at genie and char info screen)
btw i don't believe u actually believe that it's an improvement, devs just made a mistake and put everything in Arial 12 or something rofl

UI change is actually what made me quit the game I played before this one, together with the commercial greed of the ppl behind it ofc, so ...

WAY TO GO PWI !!

p.s.: item linking is nice, I don't want to be only negative
item linking without font change would be even nicer !

Something awesome too is when you click the tiny ( - ) on bottom of the general chat it was used to have a ( + ) too bring that chat back, that not the case anymore (gotta relog).......