Ultimate Noob Genie Guide

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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    phonub wrote: »
    MAG/INT: 50 points of magic increases the energy recovery rate by 1/sec

    so shouldnt i just finish that 50 mag points? b:surrender

    or should i distribute it to different areas like strength and vit and dex ect...

    I would stop at 50 for now. Later on you might want to add more...however...Look at the skills you are going to get. Some need str, some need dex etc to increase a certain effect of the skill. For example Holy Path skill will need Dex attributes to increase the duration of the skill.

    In a sense...depends on your skills more then anything.
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  • Gathmor - Dreamweaver
    Gathmor - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Thanks a lot for the effort! I am slowly starting to grasp this genie thing lol. And yes this thing should be stickied!
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Necro & Bump for justice!

    Why isn't this thread stickied!?
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  • mulanrouge
    mulanrouge Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    b:cute this thread is being watched by Rose too so any changes will be added to the Guide when and if they may occur and the sticky votes are nice b:cute
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  • godsbigstick
    godsbigstick Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Thanks so much for this guide. I just wish I had read it BEFORE. I'm a noob and I thought the genie was useless because it was the white one and the skill was only useful flying. As I'm not at that level yet I decomposed the genie not realizing I could later unlearn the skill or add new ones.

    Now I want to get one back and I have the stone I received in return. But I can't seem to get a new one from the Watcher of the Earth (Venomancer) in the City of the Lost.

    How can I get a new genie? Do I need something more than the EXP stone I received when decomposing? And can I pick my starting genie?
  • mulanrouge
    mulanrouge Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    godsbigstick wrote: »
    Thanks so much for this guide. I just wish I had read it BEFORE. I'm a noob and I thought the genie was useless because it was the white one and the skill was only useful flying. As I'm not at that level yet I decomposed the genie not realizing I could later unlearn the skill or add new ones.

    Now I want to get one back and I have the stone I received in return. But I can't seem to get a new one from the Watcher of the Earth (Venomancer) in the City of the Lost.

    How can I get a new genie? Do I need something more than the EXP stone I received when decomposing? And can I pick my starting genie?


    You can get a new Genie from the Watcher of the Earth with 3 mirages stones. With the 3 mirage stones, you will be able to pick which of the 4 Genies you would like. You can then use the decomposed EXP Cube to help level up your Genie.

    Good Luck b:victory
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  • godsbigstick
    godsbigstick Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    mulanrouge wrote: »
    You can get a new Genie from the Watcher of the Earth with 3 mirages stones. With the 3 mirage stones, you will be able to pick which of the 4 Genies you would like. You can then use the decomposed EXP Cube to help level up your Genie.

    Good Luck b:victory

    Thanks very much. I know now it was a stupid move. Now, hopefully I can get the 3 mirage celestones before I get too much further and lose ground on the genie leveling/skills. I have a lot of fragments and I THINK I can turn in a certain amount (25) for 1 mirage at a gem merchant but I'm still working on finding one (or another NPC) that makes the trade. It doesn't seem available at any of the NPCs in the cities I've been.

    I'll work on that part. Thanks again for your help. I appreciate the quick response.
  • mulanrouge
    mulanrouge Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    godsbigstick wrote: »
    Thanks very much. I know now it was a stupid move. Now, hopefully I can get the 3 mirage celestones before I get too much further and lose ground on the genie leveling/skills. I have a lot of fragments and I THINK I can turn in a certain amount (25) for 1 mirage at a gem merchant but I'm still working on finding one (or another NPC) that makes the trade. It doesn't seem available at any of the NPCs in the cities I've been.

    I'll work on that part. Thanks again for your help. I appreciate the quick response.

    You can exchange your Celestones at the Gem Merchant. This NPC is usually located near the Banker in all major cities.
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  • Yindra - Sanctuary
    Yindra - Sanctuary Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Nice manual.

    'Cause that's what it is --- apparently it explains how genies work (I don't have one, so I have no clue whether it's good or not). Contrary to the subject, however, it completely lacks a "guide" section.

    Of course, the usual excuse for making a guide that doesn't provide guidance is the good old "you can choose whatever skills you want, and raise the stats according to your preferences". Great. I don't need a guide to randomly place things since I don't know how it all fits into the bigger picture.

    Even class guides, which are often very reluctant on the guiding part as well, do try to provide some ideas about placing stats, and even try to judge the skills.

    It kind of sad to see how things have degenerated over the years --- game manuals no longer exist, and are replaced by "guides". To compensate for this, guides no longer guide, they just explain the facts like a manual would. Actual guides seem to be rare these days.

    Still, as a manual it doesn't look bad at all. A bit repetitive at times, probably to make it look bigger.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yindra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Nice manual.

    'Cause that's what it is --- apparently it explains how genies work (I don't have one, so I have no clue whether it's good or not). Contrary to the subject, however, it completely lacks a "guide" section.

    Of course, the usual excuse for making a guide that doesn't provide guidance is the good old "you can choose whatever skills you want, and raise the stats according to your preferences". Great. I don't need a guide to randomly place things since I don't know how it all fits into the bigger picture.

    Even class guides, which are often very reluctant on the guiding part as well, do try to provide some ideas about placing stats, and even try to judge the skills.

    It kind of sad to see how things have degenerated over the years --- game manuals no longer exist, and are replaced by "guides". To compensate for this, guides no longer guide, they just explain the facts like a manual would. Actual guides seem to be rare these days.

    Still, as a manual it doesn't look bad at all. A bit repetitive at times, probably to make it look bigger.

    If you do not have a Genie then you do not get it. Go get one. and my reluctance to "tell" people what skills to get has a reason. Each skill is based off str, dex, vit, etc. If you get skills with all different attribute additions, then you are going to have a seriously gimped Genie. Also, each class has skills that require different things, in terms of attribute distribution, because of the skills that are specific to their class.

    I would much rather people rely on their class community to help them build a Genie then me tell them what to use. I could do a skill distribution however, there is a link for all of the skills and their descriptions in this Guide. But I thank you for your imput.


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  • Ayako_x - Heavens Tear
    Ayako_x - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    who exactly do you talk to to "feed" your genie the stones?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ayako_x - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    who exactly do you talk to to "feed" your genie the stones?

    Once you have chi stones you just drag it to the Genie in your inventory. You can do this while equipped. It is the same thing as re-fueling your Aero-gear.
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  • GreenBeans - Dreamweaver
    GreenBeans - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Genie skills still confuse me a little. How do i learn them? Sorry if it was in the guide, i must have missed it..
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    GreenBeans - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Genie skills still confuse me a little. How do i learn them? Sorry if it was in the guide, i must have missed it..

    Go to the Watcher of the Earth and there will be an option to "Learn Skill."

    You have to drag your Genie into the box at the top left of the skill box (make sure to unequip then drag it).

    Once there, the skills will pop up for you to see.

    Now, all of the skills will come up, the highlighted ones means that you have the Affinity Points set to learn the particular skill, while the grayed out ones means you do not have the proper Affinities set.

    You can always look and find the ones that you want before you set your Affinities to ensure that you get the skills that you want.
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  • Feito - Dreamweaver
    Feito - Dreamweaver Posts: 165 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Thank you for this guide. A couple of hours ago, I was a total newb at genies and after reading this through I feel like an expert.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Feito - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Thank you for this guide. A couple of hours ago, I was a total newb at genies and after reading this through I feel like an expert.

    Glad to hear!!

    Feel free to post any further questions.


    Side Note --> This guide is up-to-date, the Guide I made for the PWI-Wiki is as it was for the entry. I have made attempts to try and get it unlocked it so that I can make the changes to no avail thus far. Once I get that taken care of, the Wiki will also be up-to-date. I requested it be locked unless I make a change so that not too many people can mess with it b:surrender
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  • orchadiea
    orchadiea Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    HELP! Everyone keeps saying to just "drag the chi stone to the genie." I do that, and it asks if I want to drop the stone. Then I try dragging it to the icon showing her on my stat screen, and it just shows back up into the bag. Do I need to place the genie back into my bag to feed it?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    orchadiea wrote: »
    HELP! Everyone keeps saying to just "drag the chi stone to the genie." I do that, and it asks if I want to drop the stone. Then I try dragging it to the icon showing her on my stat screen, and it just shows back up into the bag. Do I need to place the genie back into my bag to feed it?

    Drag it to the Genie "slot" in your equipment/inventory.

    Does that make sense?

    You do not have to drag the stone out of your inventory...
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  • ThanatosEnyo - Raging Tide
    ThanatosEnyo - Raging Tide Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    *huge sigh of relief!* I think I know exactly what you are talking about. Thank you... now if only the server was up so I could log on to feed the genie and the beast. LOL
  • rafaelgfx
    rafaelgfx Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i read the guide but you didnt say which build is better for a genie... theres a build for them just like there is for classes right?

    i dunno if it depends on my class too, but im a psychic and my genie is magic affinity.

    i have some stats and affinity points to add on her. any suggestions?

    thx..
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    rafaelgfx wrote: »
    i read the guide but you didnt say which build is better for a genie... theres a build for them just like there is for classes right?

    i dunno if it depends on my class too, but im a psychic and my genie is magic affinity.

    i have some stats and affinity points to add on her. any suggestions?

    thx..

    I have made it clear that I try not to give Genie build advice. This is because, as you mentioned, there are so many possibilities and each class tends to have their own way of building.

    I would recommended looking in the Psychic section of the forum, as I have seen a few threads regarding your question(s).

    However, I would recommend you getting a Dex genie. This is better for skills like Holy Path and Extreme Poison 9which most tend to take early on.
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  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I have a question if you can kindly answer please ^^

    Can I change my affinity points to other elements of the points where set to one element?

    And thanks for this guide, I was about to buy a new genie because in another guide they said Zeal And Discipline are recommended for Venos. b:surrender
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Can I change my affinity points to other elements of the points where set to one element?

    You can change the Affinities with a Stone of Refreshment.

    You can get from the Boutique, Another player selling or I believe you get one free once your Genie gets to a certain level (level 80 I think) (like the Genie exp cubes you get from the NPC).
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  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    You can change the Affinities with a Stone of Refreshment.

    You can get from the Boutique, Another player selling or I believe you get one free once your Genie gets to a certain level (level 80 I think) (like the Genie exp cubes you get from the NPC).

    Do you think it's worth it to buy it now or wait for level 80? Sorry for asking a lot of questions but I need help >_<;;
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Do you think it's worth it to buy it now or wait for level 80? Sorry for asking a lot of questions but I need help >_<;;

    If it is for 1 Affinity...not worth it.

    I personally did very little to my Genie until about level 90+
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  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    If it is for 1 Affinity...not worth it.

    I personally did very little to my Genie until about level 90+

    I just started noticing last week what I could do with my Genie. I didn't know what do with Affinity points and put them all towards fire. >____< (a very stupid mistake) I need other skills specially that I'm going for TW x.x;;
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I just started noticing last week what I could do with my Genie. I didn't know what do with Affinity points and put them all towards fire. >____< (a very stupid mistake) I need other skills specially that I'm going for TW x.x;;

    The I would most likely suggest a restat >_>

    However, pick skills before you place...it is kind of a pain in the rear, but worth it to not have to restat too often.
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  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    The I would most likely suggest a restat >_>

    However, pick skills before you place...it is kind of a pain in the rear, but worth it to not have to restat too often.

    Thank you so much! <33

    Do you recommend any special skills for PvP or is it all my preference?
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Thank you so much! <33

    Do you recommend any special skills for PvP or is it all my preference?

    I try not to give Genie build/Skill advice for the most part...

    I would look at the Veno section of these forums, as I know there have been a few posts about this. If not, you can start a post, but I know there have been a few rather recently.
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  • tiasung
    tiasung Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    I have made it clear that I try not to give Genie build advice. This is because, as you mentioned, there are so many possibilities and each class tends to have their own way of building.

    I would recommended looking in the Psychic section of the forum, as I have seen a few threads regarding your question(s).

    However, I would recommend you getting a Dex genie. This is better for skills like Holy Path and Extreme Poison 9which most tend to take early on.
    If you intend to have a genie that supplements the Holy Path skill, get a Zeal (magic affinity).
    Holy Path genies rely on heavy magic (not heavy dex), to increase the benefit you gain from said skill.

    Personally, i agree that this guide could use more thorough skill explaination, probably grouped by stats affinity. (there really isnt much knowledge about the benefits of most skills around on the forums)

    At any rate, apart from some missinformative details the guide is okay for getting to know a genie.
    You may want to change the effects of dex in the guide, as it does not affect over time skills, its effects are identical to str, except its used by mostly different skills.

    In the guide it also mentioned that the starting genie wont matter.
    This is only true at first, when your genies stats are low.
    Below stats 40-45 increasing a stats could costs 1 stats point, where as above it costs 2 stats point, per 1 stats increase.
    For the genies affinity however, it costs 1 point below 55.
    So your starting genie will matter if you decide to raise any of the stats above 45.

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