Ultimate Noob Genie Guide

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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Aerilya - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Ok, thank you. :D
    One more question, when do you find out if the genie you have is one of the rarer ones? Like, right now I have a lvl28 genie that has 18/20, but it is green. If my genie stays lucky, and gets over 41 lucky points, would the color change to blue?

    If it reaches 41 Lucky Points, if will have its First Evolution. And the Lucky Point Color code will turn to Blue, yes.

    Try this Link...It is my Guide on the New PWI WIki. It is in an easier layout to read in my opinion.

    Ultimate Newbie guide to Your Genie
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Sticky this <_< tired of searching for it... *Btw the damn Search button doesnt work on the forums... fix it..*

    Edit: btw im up to 9/30 lucky points :D epic fail no?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    Sticky this <_< tired of searching for it... *Btw the damn Search button doesnt work on the forums... fix it..*

    Edit: btw im up to 9/30 lucky points :D epic fail no?

    b:thanks For the Sticky vote!!!

    And as for the Lucky Points b:surrender...You will have a hard time catching up. b:sad
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    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    b:thanks For the Sticky vote!!!

    And as for the Lucky Points b:surrender...You will have a hard time catching up. b:sad

    i think i may bring it up to lvl 40 tops if that.. and wait til i have extra spirit <_<
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    i think i may bring it up to lvl 40 tops if that.. and wait til i have extra spirit <_<

    Be careful....once it is level 40 you have to wait the 7 days before you can even decomp it into an experience cube b:surrender

    Level 39 and below you can decomp the Genie for the experience (although the ratio is kind of horrible...but it is better then nothing) without waiting the 7 day Trade-ready time frame.
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    hai rose

    Repeating my earlier question o,..,o

    If i add another wood affinity, how does it help extreme poison? :o

    Does it last longer? Does it increase the extra % of damage?
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I got problem, I think the ecatomb genie skill list don't work properly anymore I can't click on the skill it always display error. :(
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    hai rose

    Repeating my earlier question o,..,o

    If i add another wood affinity, how does it help extreme poison? :o

    Does it last longer? Does it increase the extra % of damage?

    Ok.....I do not know the exact "numbers" or what exactly it does. But think of it this way...When you add Attribute points into your character (similar to the Genie's) you get "stronger" in that area. Whether it be mag, str, dex, etc.

    It is really no different then the Affinity of the Genie. Adding more Wood will make the Wood spell stronger. Along with the Level of the skill and the extra attribute points you add.

    In this case, Extreme Poison: Dexterity: Every 10 Genie Dexterity points increases the damage by 1%.

    HOWEVER....I would not worry about the "extra" Affinity points you have until you are 100% sure on all the skills you are going to be getting. This is because you have to use Boutique items to reset the points and even then you coulc be in some trouble.

    Genies are all about planning around the skills you are going to get. I currently have 3 Genies b:sweat. And all are built VERY differently, in fact they are built very specifically to the skills on them. Grinding/normal, PvP and GV (Rebirth). Which in the Rebirth one had NO room for error b:surrender. Pain in my side really...

    I know this may not be the very specific answer that you are looking for, but when it comes to the Genies there is still a lot of "ummm's" or "whys"
    ilystah wrote: »
    I got problem, I think the ecatomb genie skill list don't work properly anymore I can't click on the skill it always display error. :(

    What skill are you trying to look at/view?
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I was trying to browse the skill to see which one is better, so I don't think you can help me with that because rewrite everything here is quite time-consuming.
    All skill except Venom Stinger and Balance cannot be clicked on. There is always an error message when I hover my mouse over the icon and I cannot click it at all. I think this happen after ecatomb add Balance to the skill list (and perhap update other skill too to remain in sync with the patch but I don't know since I cannot click on others). I can see the skill perfectly fine before.
    Btw, Skill List by Affinity is erronous too, 2 skill have wrong affinity and 3 skill do not state correctly the water/air requirement. I cannot remember what they are but "tree of protection" and "frozen domain" are 2 of them.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    I was trying to browse the skill to see which one is better, so I don't think you can help me with that because rewrite everything here is quite time-consuming.
    All skill except Venom Stinger and Balance cannot be clicked on. There is always an error message when I hover my mouse over the icon and I cannot click it at all. I think this happen after ecatomb add Balance to the skill list (and perhap update other skill too to remain in sync with the patch but I don't know since I cannot click on others). I can see the skill perfectly fine before.
    Btw, Skill List by Affinity is erronous too, 2 skill have wrong affinity and 3 skill do not state correctly the water/air requirement. I cannot remember what they are but "tree of protection" and "frozen domain" are 2 of them.

    I just went on the site and am having no problem clicking on any of the skills:

    However....I do know that they are trying to update some of the Genie skills on the site since in this version some things have been changed with the various patches.

    Here is the Thread
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I gave up, I still got same error. It work fine before the update though. :bcry
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    I gave up, I still got same error. It work fine before the update though. :bcry

    So it is just the site...not in-game play right?

    Because that is odd.

    I do however have other skill layouts in this guide that may help...or if you can narrow down a few skills I might be able to help.
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    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    I gave up, I still got same error. It work fine before the update though. :bcry

    what browser are you using?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    what browser are you using?

    Not a question I would have asked...but good point. b:surrender
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    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Yes it is just the site. And I'm using IE latest version (not the beta one).
    Yes I heard that IE is horrid but it used to work, so I don't know what happened to the site :b cry
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    Yes it is just the site. And I'm using IE latest version (not the beta one).
    Yes I heard that IE is horrid but it used to work, so I don't know what happened to the site :b cry

    Ummm...try a different browser and see what happens.
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    hmm thats odd... did you recently update IE? *btw are u also using Vista?*
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    hmm thats odd... did you recently update IE? *btw are u also using Vista?*

    b:angry Vista

    I cannot use IE on my home comp...Zzzzzzzzz...I prefer Firefox b:victory
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    b:angry Vista

    I cannot use IE on my home comp...Zzzzzzzzz...I prefer Firefox b:victory

    yea i have vista at home, and i think I have the same issue when I try using IE on that site, thats the only reason I ask lol. * I use Firefox too, I have to use IE for other things like dirty sites and Netflix...*
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    yea i have vista at home, and i think I have the same issue when I try using IE on that site, thats the only reason I ask lol. * I use Firefox too, I have to use IE for other things like dirty sites and Netflix...*

    ^^ Eh... to some of the above ^^

    Anyways.....ilystah.....give me the top 5 skills you are looking at and I will look them up for you if you are skill having issues or questions.

    There is also a large response in this thread regarding some skills that maybe you might find helpful.
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    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Tigerhammer - Heavens Tear
    Tigerhammer - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Um i just got my genie but i cant use it. What should I do? It says I cant equip it because its locked. I also cant use a EXP stone. Please help!
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Tigerhammer - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Um i just got my genie but i cant use it. What should I do? It says I cant equip it because its locked. I also cant use a EXP stone. Please help!

    Hmmmm....not sure about the "locked" thing. The only thing that I can think of for that is the Safety Lock. This however should never be touched, if you have there is a sticky in the forums here in regards to that issue. Also, when you first log in there about a minute of cooldown in which one cannot trade, open mail, etc (Safety Lock but this is with everyone).

    Only other thing I can think of is that the Genie you may have is a higher level then you and in that case you cannot use it. Your Genie cannot be a higher level then your character.

    Also, in terms of using the Experience Cube. Once again you cannot use a Cube that is a higher level then your Genie's level.

    Let me know if any of these are the issue.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Tigerhammer - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Um i just got my genie but i cant use it. What should I do? It says I cant equip it because its locked. I also cant use a EXP stone. Please help!

    since you are a barb make sure you are not in tiger form or have safety lock on when trying to equip the genie if that doesnt work you better sumbit a ticket
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    since you are a barb make sure you are not in tiger form or have safety lock on when trying to equip the genie if that doesnt work you better sumbit a ticket

    Thank you!! I did not think of him being in Tiger form b:surrender
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Tigerhammer - Heavens Tear
    Tigerhammer - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I know its not bcause of safty lock. but the tiger form thing i dont know about and the level thing
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Thanks for trying to help me. I have to install another browser but still have error, but at least it let me click on the skill rather than just freeze the browser.
    But I got a question to ask about True Emptiness: does the shield activate at the same chance everytime you use it no matter the amount of mana the genie have? does the bonus damage work if you cast from non-air and hit a air target?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    Thanks for trying to help me. I have to install another browser but still have error, but at least it let me click on the skill rather than just freeze the browser.
    But I got a question to ask about

    True Emptiness:

    does the shield activate at the same chance everytime you use it no matter the amount of mana the genie have?

    The activation is based on the the level of the skill not the amount of mana you have. At level 1- it has a 100% chance to activate. At level 1 the chance is 55%.

    does the bonus damage work if you cast from non-air and hit a air target?
    The skill cause "Causes triple damage to targets in the air." Therefore there would be no "bonus" when used on the ground.

    Have a good day and gl with the browser.
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • raymp3
    raymp3 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Certainly, if it takes 3 CHI to make 1 higher level CHI, same as most gems do, and they only give you 2X the stamina for your genie that is a losing trade 3 for 2.

    One reason for converting lower CHI into higher CHI is that only certain specific CHI stones can be used for specific Apothecary recipes. Such as level 5 Apoth recipes for charms require perhaps level 5 CHI stones as a raw material. Lower stones could be combined to help you gather the specific level CHI stone needed to do your combines and make the specific CHARMS you needed to gain crafting skillups.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    raymp3 wrote: »
    Certainly, if it takes 3 CHI to make 1 higher level CHI, same as most gems do, and they only give you 2X the stamina for your genie that is a losing trade 3 for 2.

    Exactly....

    Perfect Stones are just easier to fine then the lower grade Chi stones, thus making it simpler to feed your Genie. Additionally, high levels can decomp OHT gear and receive Perfect Stones form them.
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • HIPHOPM - Lost City
    HIPHOPM - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    so when my ginie gets 51 LP does it automatically evolves to a purple ginie?

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