GM Response: DQ Mats price change

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  • Quinnie - Heavens Tear
    Quinnie - Heavens Tear Posts: 314 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    goo frankie b:victory
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  • Esnemyl - Dreamweaver
    Esnemyl - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,079 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    i has one better >.>
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    but on a higher note and on topic, im gflad to see something will get done
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  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    If it doesnt compensate for us non-cash shoppers than it fails, Nuff said

    D@mn straight.
  • Kilala - Lost City
    Kilala - Lost City Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    ty yor a true rinestone cowboyb:thanks
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    50mil says it's a double drop event.
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  • Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    This ^
    *FACEPALM*
    If you reduce the price increase the drop rate b:surrender
  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I hope that indeed the droprate will increase :) That would be a fair way to make up for it.
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  • ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear
    ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear Posts: 147 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    50mil says it's a double drop event.

    I doudt they actually need to Dev's permission the activate a x2 drop session, so hopefully it will be something permanent and not a CS sale " compensation "
  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    Nice, but PWE and proper compensation rarely go hand in hand.

    Wouldn't be surprised if compensation: DQ items now in packs.
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  • ViennaMcFly - Dreamweaver
    ViennaMcFly - Dreamweaver Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    Ahahaha PWI economy looool.
  • _Kahn_ - Raging Tide
    _Kahn_ - Raging Tide Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    Thats sounds good but lets wait what we get at least...
    b:sad

    But anyway thx for that frankie.

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  • OneHottShot - Heavens Tear
    OneHottShot - Heavens Tear Posts: 704 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I doudt they actually need to Dev's permission the activate a x2 drop session, so hopefully it will be something permanent and not a CS sale " compensation "
    axt57 wrote: »
    Nice, but PWE and proper compensation rarely go hand in hand.

    Wouldn't be surprised if compensation: DQ items now in packs.

    If either of you are right, it will be just another slap in the face to us all. Even the cash shoppers have to be getting annoyed by the amount of 2x events we continue to have for PWI to "make stuff up" to the community.

    No doubt there will be many rage quitters, and unlike the past; there aren't 3 new players for every rage quitter. PWI has to be feeling the sting.
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I'm guessing it's permanent 1.25x drop rate, of course will apply to TT and Nirvana as well. So yes, cool to have a compensation, but no matter what kind of thing it is, I still don't like not getting a full response. They can't really make another drop thing such as DQ items, since then there would be no reason to decrease the price in the first place.

    Btw, good job Frankie for telling us this.
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  • J_Balt - Heavens Tear
    J_Balt - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I dont really like this, I know you said you talked to the dev's, told how most pwi players dislike this, and yet the Dev's are gonna implement dq value decrease.

    You say they're gonna come up with a backup plan, I say aint gonna happen anytime soon.
    For a game that's been out for quite a while now, they sure take their time fixing things, if ever.
  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited May 2010
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    Maybe an exchange npc where you turn in a dq item for an item worth the original dq price of that item.
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    volst wrote: »
    Maybe an exchange npc where you turn in a dq item for an item worth the original dq price of that item.

    Wouldn't that be harder to do than just change the value of the DQ items back?
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  • Segreta - Sanctuary
    Segreta - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    IF the compensation is a lame 2x Event of 1/2 week then **** i quit and say goodbye to a Zen buyer b:bye

    I bought Zen to buy some un-essential stuff like Fashions,Fashions and Fashions,while I grind a lot for upgrading Skills and getting gear.

    The ONLY compensation I see it may a RISE of DQ Drop rate especially on high levels since its crappy low.
    And don't even try to rise it by only 5% b:angry
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  • ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear
    ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear Posts: 147 Arc User
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    I'm guessing it's permanent 1.25x drop rate, of course will apply to TT and Nirvana as well. So yes, cool to have a compensation

    If it applies to TT and Nirvana etc its not solving the problem its just moving it to somewhere else. Since Instance drop price's will continue to fall = Players still having the same problem of earning money by working " ingame "
  • Maragon - Dreamweaver
    Maragon - Dreamweaver Posts: 645 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I've said it before and this thread has confirmed what i've said.

    If PWE wants to keep its player base they need to renegotiate their contract with PW china. they need to get some amount of veto power for the International version on some changes (not major content but things like this) and they need to have access to some of the game coding.

    Also Frankie I know this has been an interesting couple weeks for you thanks for all the help you are one awesome CMb:thanks
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    If it applies to TT and Nirvana etc its not solving the problem its just moving it to somewhere else. Since Instance drop price's will continue to fall = Players still having the same problem of earning money by working " ingame "

    Not like they care. If they had, then why did this was done in the first place? Unless Dev's said there's no other option.
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I saw that coming. They never give you any explanation for whatever major changes to take place. They keep it well inside a big black box, but everything boils down to more profit generation for their company. Well you may not see it but I can see it.

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    This is what they care the most.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    First.... STOP THE DAMNED WHINING. The changes haven't been made yet and the 'compensation' hasn't been revealed, yet people are still crying like babies and begging/threatening for reparations. Just STOP already.

    If 'they' didn't care at all, the management here wouldn't have removed perfect horns, the devs there wouldn't even consider making a unique modification for this version of the game just for us, as it will mean they will need to maintain two different versions of the code which may mean our localization patches may even be further delayed from the CN servers. So you might as well start griping about that now.
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  • KnaveslLobo - Heavens Tear
    KnaveslLobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    people never listen

    you was just handed a line and you sallowed it hook line and sinker

    so .... gms: they are not happy campers
    devs: **** them we are doing it anyways
    gms:so what do we tell them
    dev: you know the drill make a vauge promiuses and we'll think about it



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  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I'm not sure if this is true, but I've been hearing the whole reason they are decreasing the DQ prices is because apparently we've been having a rising botting problem.
    >.<
  • gleardramearth
    gleardramearth Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I am hearing that after spending money on a herc that soon they will no longer be able to tank bosses. they are weak now, but what is the point in buying one if they become useless. I don't mind that DQ is being weaned from the game entirely. but another drop in ingame revenue needs a serious reconsideration. No one will be able to play if all the clerics are run off. Pot prices need to be dropped substantially. Best if they are dropped more than DQ to encourage clerics to stay. Then zen prices in game would come down.
  • Seirura - Heavens Tear
    Seirura - Heavens Tear Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    I think they will add the 2x Exp permanent but with no 2x drops b:angry
  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    First.... STOP THE DAMNED WHINING. The changes haven't been made yet and the 'compensation' hasn't been revealed, yet people are still crying like babies and begging/threatening for reparations. Just STOP already.

    If 'they' didn't care at all, the management here wouldn't have removed perfect horns, the devs there wouldn't even consider making a unique modification for this version of the game just for us, as it will mean they will need to maintain two different versions of the code which may mean our localization patches may even be further delayed from the CN servers. So you might as well start griping about that now.

    QQing about QQers how ironic b:laugh
  • _Rosaly_ - Lost City
    _Rosaly_ - Lost City Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    50mil says it's a double drop event.
    And how are you planning to pay for that? b:chuckle

    My best bet is that there will be something called an item drop booster for sale for a low price in the CS which makes drop rate go up for ten minutes after equiping it. b:laugh

    But no really... I agree with Michael... let's not start whining before this is actually in effect.
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    You do need more whining to change devs's ideas, just like the horn case. But I HIGHLY doubt this is the same, or even a similar, case. Their agendas settle in different planets.
  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    oyamajio wrote: »
    You do need more whining to change devs's ideas, just like the horn case. But I HIGHLY doubt this is the same, or even a similar, case. Their agendas settle in different planets.

    You are right on the whining part. I like to fight for what I believe in.
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