Wizards dueling clerics ... a mistake?

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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
    lol no. When you've been occult iced, you can't atk back sry. Pretty sure freeze and stun are basically the same thing

    thats cuz ocult ice do stun and not freeze like description tells, normal freeze like archers/mobs/wizards do u can atk while in freezed status.....hope u understand now
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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    thats cuz ocult ice do stun and not freeze like description tells, normal freeze like archers/mobs/wizards do u can atk while in freezed status.....hope u understand now

    simple because have translation confuseion, until pw my/pw ms use same name pwi use another names for everything included skills/skills effects (overall 99% name changed since pw my or ms)

    whatever i think freeze is a wrong sentence in what u say indifferent was used because if something freezed then in normal sentence cant do nothing. immobolize is maybe better.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    thats cuz ocult ice do stun and not freeze like description tells, normal freeze like archers/mobs/wizards do u can atk while in freezed status.....hope u understand now

    freeze = stun
    paralyze/immobilize is where you can't move but you can use skills
    ".....hope u understand now"
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
    freeze = stun
    paralyze/immobilize is where you can't move but you can use skills
    ".....hope u understand now"

    i may be playing the wrong pwi version so, rolf


    Edit: ok i tested it now, and frozen efect just makes target unable to move or use teleport skills, NOTHING ELSE...ocult ice must have a diff type of freeze than most of the skills
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  • Yulon - Lost City
    Yulon - Lost City Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
    wrong skills? The fastest skill you could use in sutra still had a .8 second cast time (pyro).. After you've used FoW (5 second seal but 2 seconds of that you are stuck casting it... so its 3 seconds where they can't attack and you can). So I'm missing how unreasonable 2-3 skills would be. Lets say you started with D.pyro (1 sec cast) followed by glacial snare (1.8 sec cast).. thats 2.8 seconds, and assuming you have absolutely 0 lag (which is impossible) you could probably get one more skill off before they have that wellspring going. Now lets say we are **** and use quick casting skills with sutra (kinda defeats the purpose).. pyro .8sec gush 1sec Crown of flames? 1sec (lol) thats again 2.8 seconds.. so theoretically you have a chance at a 4th skill.. but with the lag that is always there.. that will almost never happen (and using pyro -> gush -> CoF -> pyro isn't gonna kill a cleric anyway.. so ya). So I'm curious what you mean by using the "wrong skills".

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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i may be playing the wrong pwi version so, rolf


    Edit: ok i tested it now, and frozen efect just makes target unable to move or use teleport skills, NOTHING ELSE...ocult ice must have a diff type of freeze than most of the skills

    occult ice have new debuff when u test on player than not similiar than paralyze/seal or with stun, its a new skill.

    if u cant use tp then u cant attack too, no? what u cant do if u cant attack and move?

    whatever genie freeze a new thing, dont got any class in pwi this skill, this why i used the genie freeze word (but still for me was better in another server the paralyze/seal/stun and freeze from genie and dont was confusion what do what effect)
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »
    occult ice have new debuff when u test on player than not similiar than paralyze/seal or with stun, its a new skill.

    if u cant use tp then u cant attack too, no? what u cant do if u cant attack and move?

    whatever genie freeze a new thing, dont got any class in pwi this skill, this why i used the genie freeze word (but still for me was better in another server the paralyze/seal/stun and freeze from genie and dont was confusion what do what effect)

    so u are just telling i am right, right? b:chuckle
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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    so u are just telling i am right, right? b:chuckle

    no, i clearly explained if i talk about genie freeze then i dont talk about character skills! genie freeze is totally stun both ur genie and ur skills and i dont care what other sentence got in game, if i talk about genie freeze.
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »
    no, i clearly explained if i talk about genie freeze then i dont talk about character skills! genie freeze is totally stun both ur genie and ur skills and i dont care what other sentence got in game, if i talk about genie freeze.

    i just told that, try scroll up it clears. I told ocult ice isnt a normal freeze it is like a stun, i was trying to argu the ppl who say freeze=stun all the time, cuz when i get freezed by a hailstorm or some archer arrow i can still atk and same from mobs, also my hailstorm doesnt stop the mobs from casting, so stun =/= freeze, only the ocult ice make a freeze that unables u to atk
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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i just told that, try scroll up it clears. I told ocult ice isnt a normal freeze it is like a stun, i was trying to argu the ppl who say freeze=stun all the time, cuz when i get freezed by a hailstorm or some archer arrow i can still atk and same from mobs, also my hailstorm doesnt stop the mobs from casting, so stun =/= freeze, only the ocult ice make a freeze that unables u to atk

    i scrolled up
    Originally Posted by FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver View Post
    thats cuz ocult ice do stun and not freeze like description tells, normal freeze like archers/mobs/wizards do u can atk while in freezed status.....hope u understand now

    false because more than stun. and i think genie skill use the right sentence and other skill descriptions the wrong(occult ice description is same in other version so there dont have another thing what called freeze only genie skill).

    if u see in other version then this ~true(exclude genie skill useage part) because there have the right sentences =>
    lol no. When you've been occult iced, you can't atk back sry. Pretty sure freeze and stun are basically the same thing
    Originally Posted by Shadowvzs - Lost City View Post
    ok i got the difference between genie freeze and stun.

    during stun u cant move and attack/cast but can use genie skills but during freeze u cant move/attack/use genie.

    this was ur reply
    u told freeze efect u didnt told ocult ice, isnt the same thing cuz actually the ocult ice does some type of stun instead of freeze

    because description is **** b:shutup
    Aim Low

    Requisite Cultivation Aware of Harmony
    Focus all of your energy to aim a single shot inflicting
    base physical damage plus 953.1 and has a 90%
    chance to stun the target for 5.3 seconds.

    Requires 1 arrow, bolt or unit of shot.
    Requires one Spark
    Hailstorm

    Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Adept
    Conjure a hailstorm to rain down on the target causing it and all
    surrounding enemies to suffer Water damage equal to base magic
    attack plus 318.0 of weapon damage . Has a 33% chance
    to freeze enemies for 2.2 seconds. Higher Level gives wider range.

    both same only 1st place paralyze have stun title and in 2nd is freeze but both is paralyze in pw my/ms version. sry i prefer use that because here was swaped something in description.
    Focus entire vigor energy and perform a single shot, when hit right on target,
    can inflict basic physical attack damage with 953.1 of physical
    damage add-on, with 90% chance to paralyze the target for 5.3 seconds.
    Summon a shower hailstorm to bash onto the target, causing target and its'
    surrounding enemies to suffer a basic magic attack with 318.0 of water
    elemental damage add-on, and also a 33% chance to render the enemy in
    paralyze state for 2.2 seconds, if level go higher, the area effect will be larger .
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    we are in pwi....b:surrender

    as far as i know demon pitfall and hailstorm does freeze and i can still atk, mobs do freeze efect and i can still atk, i freeze my opponents and they can still kill me.....b:chuckle
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