Wizards dueling clerics ... a mistake?

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  • Nukesrus - Harshlands
    Nukesrus - Harshlands Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    that wont work on a smart cleric..

    smart clerics know that BT can 1 shot them so they use that shell skill that reduce p dmg taken which make u hit them 2k with BT which is not enough to take a cleric out

    That's why you run until they stop playing and start typing. :P

    Usually, though, I gush the cleric for a tiny bit of damage, then let them sleep me. Then, I just sleep + seal them until it wears of and pray BT doesn't get interrupted and that their 79 skills are on cooldown.
  • Lyzzern - Lost City
    Lyzzern - Lost City Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    First thing clerics do on a duel is Sleep, so start off with FoW > Undine Strike > Sleep and nuke, works for me :D
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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lyzzern - Lost City wrote: »
    First thing clerics do on a duel is Sleep, so start off with FoW > Undine Strike > Sleep and nuke, works for me :D

    on low hp or light cleric maybe work,sadly i cant find any low hp cleric after 90 :P
  • Lonicera - Dreamweaver
    Lonicera - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »
    on low hp or light cleric maybe work,sadly i cant find any low hp cleric after 90 :P

    After 90 you should not be low hp, so you let the cleric put you to sleep and after you wake up you do that combo but use a sutra for your "finisher"
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lonicera - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    After 90 you should not be low hp, so you let the cleric put you to sleep and after you wake up you do that combo but use a sutra for your "finisher"

    ok after 79 they got too 60% dmg absorb skill so a bit harder, depend what kinda a cleric, few is 8-10k hp at 9x b:sad but allways have ideea how to finsih them (but not allways in duelb:chuckle)
  • Lyzzern - Lost City
    Lyzzern - Lost City Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »
    on low hp or light cleric maybe work,sadly i cant find any low hp cleric after 90 :P

    Worked on 2 pure vit clerics my level
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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lyzzern - Lost City wrote: »
    Worked on 2 pure vit clerics my level

    on ur lv maybe bad a lv9x ep got 6k+ pdef and 8k+ with with build and a lower refined eq (+4-5)

    in ur lv everybody lv up fast and mainly the truely pk starting after 90, because most of ppl after 90 starting the eq refine and get hit final spark etc etc
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »
    on ur lv maybe bad a lv9x ep got 6k+ pdef and 8k+ with with build and a lower refined eq (+4-5)

    in ur lv everybody lv up fast and mainly the truely pk starting after 90, because most of ppl after 90 starting the eq refine and get hit final spark etc etc

    ill start with...FoW,undine, sleep, BT+genie skill extreme poison and tangling mire** there u have a one hit... wizards have some crazy physical dmg that can one shot arcane and most La builds*Lvl 7 BT atm* even without the **genie skills** thats just to make sure u one hit them lol but always start with FoW undine then Sleep **if u have it**b:chuckleb:bye
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ill start with...FoW,undine, sleep, BT+genie skill extreme poison and tangling mire** there u have a one hit... wizards have some crazy physical dmg that can one shot arcane and most La builds*Lvl 7 BT atm* even without the **genie skills** thats just to make sure u one hit them lol but always start with FoW undine then Sleep **if u have it**b:chuckleb:bye

    but if he use shell he wont die
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »
    That's why you run until they stop playing and start typing. :P

    Usually, though, I gush the cleric for a tiny bit of damage, then let them sleep me. Then, I just sleep + seal them until it wears of and pray BT doesn't get interrupted and that their 79 skills are on cooldown.


    bad tactic dont count on it vs a good cleric uselly when they sleep u then use any debuff they can then sage/demon spark and poof 1 shot u
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    but if he use shell he wont die

    how wud he get a chance...? FoW= 5.0sec seal Sophoric Whisper = 4second..use it like this**either start with FoW or SW,undine,FoW or SW,while in the middle of casting BT use extreme poison+tangling mire...the point of FoW is to stop something from Channeling ther skills..use it wisely
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    but if he use shell he wont die

    also remember this clerics use metal which is weak against fire.. BTs mixed with fire and physical...wat are clerics weak against..? fire and physical lol
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    but if he use shell he wont die

    sutra->silence->WOP->BT if WOP isnt enought to weak him then do +1 skill and u ok....is easy, howver at later lvls BT gets bad as even arcana classes start having huge pdef, if they know how to equip
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    also remember this clerics use metal which is weak against fire.. BTs mixed with fire and physical...wat are clerics weak against..? fire and physical lol

    clerics aren't mobs,,,sry b:shutup



    but all u said is for mid/high lvls and thats when wiz start to rock i think the guy who posted this mean how to defeit a cleric at this lv.....
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  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    how wud he get a chance...? FoW= 5.0sec seal Sophoric Whisper = 4second..use it like this**either start with FoW or SW,undine,FoW or SW,while in the middle of casting BT use extreme poison+tangling mire...the point of FoW is to stop something from Channeling ther skills..use it wisely
    he can use it before count down that skill last untill the cleric mana is gone so keep in mind he can always always have it on..

    and clerics arnt mobs fire wont dmg then more cuz their metal
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sutra->silence->WOP->BT if WOP isnt enought to weak him then do +1 skill and u ok....is easy, howver at later lvls BT gets bad as even arcana classes start having huge pdef, if they know how to equip



    clerics aren't mobs,,,sry b:shutup



    but all u said is for mid/high lvls and thats when wiz start to rock i think the guy who posted this mean how to defeit a cleric at this lv.....


    trust me u dont need to give me tactics to beat clerics up i got some nice ones of my own which im not gonna share but just to let u know ur tactic wont work when he got shell on bt will bearly hit 2k and phonix will do maybe 1k dmg since most are arcane and u ddint even undine him and uselly clerics have 4k + hp on 8x
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sutra->silence->WOP->BT if WOP isnt enought to weak him then do +1 skill and u ok....is easy, howver at later lvls BT gets bad as even arcana classes start having huge pdef, if they know how to equip



    clerics aren't mobs,,,sry b:shutup



    but all u said is for mid/high lvls and thats when wiz start to rock i think the guy who posted this mean how to defeit a cleric at this lv.....
    <----came from a P.Server u guys have no idea...eventually a cleric Plume shot wont even touch us...so look b4 u come in here talking big plz go out and fight a cleric lol...u all must suck bcuz ive never once been killed by wimpy cleric rofl u fail wizards u!
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sutra->silence->WOP->BT if WOP isnt enought to weak him then do +1 skill and u ok....is easy, howver at later lvls BT gets bad as even arcana classes start having huge pdef, if they know how to equip



    clerics aren't mobs,,,sry b:shutup



    but all u said is for mid/high lvls and thats when wiz start to rock i think the guy who posted this mean how to defeit a cleric at this lv.....
    b:laughb:laugh and p.s u wud loose with that kind of combo rofl!! FAIL!b:bye
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i do hope u didnt count me in that ''you fail wiz's'' cuz im pretty sure i can kill u as soon as 3 2 1 count down ends.. anywayz im not a wiz that having hard time dueling clerics i got planty of tactics to make clerics say ''no thanks'' when i asked them to 1v1/duel i simply post here to tell others that thos fail tactics wont work /cheers b:bye
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i do hope u didnt count me in that ''you fail wiz's'' cuz im pretty sure i can kill u as soon as 3 2 1 count down ends.. anywayz im not a wiz that having hard time dueling clerics i got planty of tactics to make clerics say ''no thanks'' when i asked them to 1v1/duel i simply post here to tell others that thos fail tactics wont work /cheers b:bye

    not u surfer i kno u kno wat ur talkin about..but this other buddy like come on...FAIL FAIL FAIL!! LolzxD also his combos suck and he has no clue wat hes doingxP us on the other hand wud be a FORCEb:laughb:thanks
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i do hope u didnt count me in that ''you fail wiz's'' cuz im pretty sure i can kill u as soon as 3 2 1 count down ends.. anywayz im not a wiz that having hard time dueling clerics i got planty of tactics to make clerics say ''no thanks'' when i asked them to 1v1/duel i simply post here to tell others that thos fail tactics wont work /cheers b:bye

    b:chuckletry out mi combo and let me kno how it works for yaxP get bakb:bye
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sutra->silence->WOP->BT if WOP isnt enought to weak him then do +1 skill and u ok....is easy, howver at later lvls BT gets bad as even arcana classes start having huge pdef, if they know how to equip



    clerics aren't mobs,,,sry b:shutup



    but all u said is for mid/high lvls and thats when wiz start to rock i think the guy who posted this mean how to defeit a cleric at this lv.....
    oh yes btw Mr.big ol bad wizard ur not even lvl 79 to get sophoric whisper nor undine....once u get them then u can count urself semi OP+ max ur FoW as fast as u can
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    b:chuckletry out mi combo and let me kno how it works for yaxP get bakb:bye

    i use that combo just incase they dont use shell before. if i dont see the shell icon on them i use it and 1 shot bye bye cleric but if they use it i got something else waiting for them xD
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    also remember this clerics use metal which is weak against fire.. BTs mixed with fire and physical...wat are clerics weak against..? fire and physical lol

    I loled...

    in that theory wouldnt mages be weak against phys, water, earth and wood?

    They must be because their elements are:
    Fire: weak to Water
    water: weak to Earth
    Earth: weak to Wood

    sorry but im not buying what you said about coming from a pvp server if you really think clerics are weak to fire..
  • Mizzzzz - Sanctuary
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    I loled...

    in that theory wouldnt mages be weak against phys, water, earth and wood?

    They must be because their elements are:
    Fire: weak to Water
    water: weak to Earth
    Earth: weak to Wood

    sorry but im not buying what you said about coming from a pvp server if you really think clerics are weak to fire..
    okay explain this...y is that when a archer uses metal attacks on me it hits me for 300...when they use quick shot it hits me for 1.2k...? also wizards are weak against physical...also explain y its so hard for a cleric to kill a archer... cuz an archer uses metal elements as well...i still think to this day BT was meant for archers and clerics **archers having lowww pdef and mdef) and well clerics have low Pdef and they **can** have low mdef with Undine strike... anything else u need to say...?
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    okay explain this...y is that when a archer uses metal attacks on me it hits me for 300...when they use quick shot it hits me for 1.2k...? also wizards are weak against physical...also explain y its so hard for a cleric to kill a archer... cuz an archer uses metal elements as well...i still think to this day BT was meant for archers and clerics **archers having lowww pdef and mdef) and well clerics have low Pdef and they **can** have low mdef with Undine strike... anything else u need to say...?

    sorry.. i 1 shot (most) archers my level with tempest, i missed ur point.

    Clerics arent weak to fire, end of discussion, only a fool would think otherwise.

    edit: archers metal attacks would OBVIOUSLY hit less on you since im assuming you are arcane with over 9k metal resist, duh?

    edit 2: its somewhat "hard" clerics vs archers becauce of their constant physical damage/ dps.....+ crits

    i hope to god your trolling.
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    okay explain this...y is that when a archer uses metal attacks on me it hits me for 300...when they use quick shot it hits me for 1.2k...? also wizards are weak against physical...also explain y its so hard for a cleric to kill a archer... cuz an archer uses metal elements as well...i still think to this day BT was meant for archers and clerics **archers having lowww pdef and mdef) and well clerics have low Pdef and they **can** have low mdef with Undine strike... anything else u need to say...?

    omg lol
    rolf lmao
    noo pvp is not pve u missed it....
    archers/clerics arent weaker to fire if they have normal armors/acess
    arcana are weak to phy! light are +/- to both! heavy is weak to mag!



    btw the combo i said works great for me assuming u would 1shot the cleric wiht 1 bt as u said if he doesnt have shell on try silence->sutra->undine->WOP->BT soo...
    i dont rly know why u make it souds so hard,,,,
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    omg lol
    rolf lmao
    noo pvp is not pve u missed it....




    btw the combo i said works great for me assuming u would 1shot the cleric wiht 1 bt as u said if he doesnt have shell on try silence->sutra->undine->WOP->BT soo...
    i dont rly know why u make it souds so hard,,,,

    + just kite/distance shrink til shell wears off if u can
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mizzzzz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    okay explain this...y is that when a archer uses metal attacks on me it hits me for 300...when they use quick shot it hits me for 1.2k...? also wizards are weak against physical...also explain y its so hard for a cleric to kill a archer... cuz an archer uses metal elements as well...i still think to this day BT was meant for archers and clerics **archers having lowww pdef and mdef) and well clerics have low Pdef and they **can** have low mdef with Undine strike... anything else u need to say...?
    sorry.. i 1 shot (most) archers my level with tempest, i missed ur point.

    true, they do sleep so enough time to debuff the archer do a 3rd spark+tempest and archer most of archer died (exclude maybe the con with hp eq and right guys).

    the magic really hurt on archer at high lv but cleric will be better in pdef view and dont forget he got 2 defensive skill too (1 agaist pattack, another agaisnt both pattack/mattack)
    u would 1shot the cleric wiht 1 bt

    try that on 8-9x cleric who got a bit brain about how he can get good pdef/mdef and hp. you need luck or genie debuffs or if good ep then 3rd spark+debuffs+bt for 1hit.
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    + just kite/distance shrink til shell wears off if u can

    no need shell isnt game over for wiz belive it or not BT isnt the only way to kill cleric (not saying it just 2 u to every wiz that think it is)
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    no need shell isnt game over for wiz belive it or not BT isnt the only way to kill cleric (not saying it just 2 u to every wiz that think it is)

    yea spells still hurt x-x BT is the easiest way though if the cleric is spam IHing

    but undine + spammage = owie

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