Lack of personal responsibility

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  • storehammy
    storehammy Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lol. agreed.

    ~S

    adopt a hamster now?
    yesh?
    b:sin

    and gah if me were there...me would so KS all the mobs.....and then record it and since me know was of time reversal KSing probably end with the other person being temporarily banned.
    >.<
    hemoglobin: idk how the hell you can turn the word burrito into something sexual. perversion at its finest
    b:shocked
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    A clone of MagicHamsta... wow. He's original but you're not.

    Me are hibernating. *poof*
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Back to "rerailing" the topic...I'd have probably done the same thing. Tell 'em to suck it up, and maybe just stalk them a little to see how long I can keep riding their gravy train of free loot. Their loss; my gain; nothin' they can do about it.

    b:chuckle
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  • Hisuna - Raging Tide
    Hisuna - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    She knows my deep dirty, dark secrets. And I know hers!

    *doesn't want to know* b:shocked

    Things like this typically don't get to me either way. I've learned to accept that there are a great number of idiots out there, and that nothing I do will change that. If someone like this were to start giving me grief as in this situation, I would either say nothing and keep doing what I was doing, or tell them something like, "if you don't pick them up, I'm going to, your call".

    The individual obviously didn't want the items and didn't care enough to take them, meaning I see no issue in anyone else picking them up. That being said, I think everyone gets too easily worked up over things like this, many times on both sides. I find it's not worth the time I would spend angry, when I could just keep having fun.
  • Chillum - Dreamweaver
    Chillum - Dreamweaver Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I pick up stuff all the time that is laying around. Most of the time it is just coins. Ocassionally it is DQ items, mats or equipment.

    Just like La Zorra, I don't like seeing stuff go to waste.

    Generally the person who killed the monster for the drop will have had a fair chance to pick up the loot.

    The only exception (that I can think of at the moment) to this would be if you kill something but it is close to another monster that is aggressive. In that case you might want to pick it up later on when that monster has moved away or you're ready to take on said monster.

    Granted, we are relying only on Saitada & La Zorra's side of the story but judging on how he has been on the forums, in my mind he has a sense of honour and lying about the crux of the matter at hand i.e. threatening actual physical violence & death, doesn't fit his general behaviour.

    On balance, I would believe him.

    Regards.
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I pick up stuff all the time that is laying around. Most of the time it is just coins. Ocassionally it is DQ items, mats or equipment.

    Just like La Zorra, I don't like seeing stuff go to waste.

    Generally the person who killed the monster for the drop will have had a fair chance to pick up the loot.

    The only exception (that I can think of at the moment) to this would be if you kill something but it is close to another monster that is aggressive. In that case you might want to pick it up later on when that monster has moved away or you're ready to take on said monster.

    Granted, we are relying only on Saitada & La Zorra's side of the story but judging on how he has been on the forums, in my mind he has a sense of honour and lying about the crux of the matter at hand i.e. threatening actual physical violence & death, doesn't fit his general behaviour.

    On balance, I would believe him.

    Regards.

    Oh I have screen shots of all of it. I sent them to PWI and will let them handle it.

    ~S
  • Chillum - Dreamweaver
    Chillum - Dreamweaver Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Oh I have screen shots of all of it. I sent them to PWI and will let them handle it.

    ~S

    I'd say that is the right course of action. You provide the evidence and let someone else make the final decision.

    Perhaps receiving some kind of corrective action from PWI, warning, suspension or whatnot will lead to them behaving better in future because threatening behaviour like that, especially in those outlined circumstances, is unacceptable.

    You can always hope....

    Regards.
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  • Psytrac - Raging Tide
    Psytrac - Raging Tide Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I hope he player wasn't a phychic, they get a useful 1 minute attack buff and the player might just be trying to make the most of it.
    We can't judge on who's brash who wasn't without whole conversation pictures. We can debate if its worth it to not pick up loot for the reason that killer might be taking advantage of a short term buff or take the loot as its timer is gone.
    at level 4 they cost 52 mana and have a 10 sec (tops) cooldown, it's not that big of a deal to pick up a few items and continue attacking. that was clear bating, nd they picked a veteran to attack, big mistake
  • Dynaskid_MM - Dreamweaver
    Dynaskid_MM - Dreamweaver Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lol was too lazy to read through wat everyone else posted but i read the OP and thats hilarious hahah stupid idiots.....damn kids!! lol
    and long time Saitada O= b:bye
  • Lyryn - Dreamweaver
    Lyryn - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It is unfortunate that some people will not accept responsibility for thier actions. People who make threats should be banned, after all in the real world they are incercerated.
  • Coraline - Lost City
    Coraline - Lost City Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Couldnt you just blacklist them or ignore them? but then you couldnt make a topic about it...meh
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    eatswithspoons "*roll eyes* real money for virtual property? That's definitely not allowed"

    Lol what?
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Couldnt you just blacklist them or ignore them? but then you couldnt make a topic about it...meh

    This is more fun.

    b:chuckle
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    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    it wouldn't surprise me if the person was provoked into making threats by the OP.
    lack of responsibility? you can only push someone so far before they have to stick up for themselves.
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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I have not had much time to spend in-game lately but I was by the new tide-born area. I was searching for the Magmite looking fellows.

    Anyone know how they are comparable to the Magmite??

    I really like the effect when the Tideborns turn into Maids out of water. Its funny to see the blue names outside of West Arch on display.

    They are almost like bait sitting there. You go out and stroll near to take a look.

    then......

    BAMMMMMM, one-shot from above. b:chuckle
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    it wouldn't surprise me if the person was provoked into making threats by the OP.
    lack of responsibility? you can only push someone so far before they have to stick up for themselves.

    its actually a lack of responsibility by the OP for not turning the other cheek. Instead he called the person names and believes he is a responsible adult.
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  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    thats what worries me so much...the numbers of very young children playing games online that are far too mature for them. i know this for certain, because they tell me their age, and, if i didnt stop them and give them some internet basics for kids, they would have told me where they live and much more. and almost always, they tell me their parents are unaware of just what PWI is, telling me their folks think its something disneyesque.

    what sort of parents must they be, to let children that young have full run of the interent?!b:shocked


    Sounds pretty much like a 13 year old playing the game and acts like they are some tough person.

    Until the Ban card comes out and they start crying and say that its not their fault.

    All I can say is, that's why I am glad I play on a PvP server.

    *I agree, it is the fail of the parents in this situation. With the internet how it is now I find many parents are just ignorant to what their children are up to.
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  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    'It doesn't matter what anyone says, they shouldn't get banned for it"

    QFT. Like, srsly.
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Sai, I'm dissapointed to see a thread like this from you. To give you your own advice... suck it up. :P
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    its actually a lack of responsibility by the OP for not turning the other cheek. Instead he called the person names and believes he is a responsible adult.

    Personal responsibility is not the same as "turning the other cheek"

    personal responsibility is accepting the consequences of your actions, and accepting that your actions are the cause of those consequences.

    turning the other cheek is the opposite of personal responsibility, as the person to whom you are presenting the other cheek, who has just defied the first cheek, is not being asked to take responsibility for their action, but is instead being asked to tire themselves out by defiling your cheeks.

    turning the other cheek is a non-retaliatory on the part of the reciever
    personal responsibility is acceptance of reaction on the part of the initial giver.
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  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Personal responsibility is not the same as "turning the other cheek"

    personal responsibility is accepting the consequences of your actions, and accepting that your actions are the cause of those consequences.

    turning the other cheek is the opposite of personal responsibility, as the person to whom you are presenting the other cheek, who has just defied the first cheek, is not being asked to take responsibility for their action, but is instead being asked to tire themselves out by defiling your cheeks.

    turning the other cheek is a non-retaliatory on the part of the reciever
    personal responsibility is acceptance of reaction on the part of the initial giver.

    but isnt turning the other cheek a responsible move? instead of calling someone names?

    i didnt actually say personal responsibility.. i said its a lack of responsibility of the OP for calling names.
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    but isnt turning the other cheek a responsible move? instead of calling someone names?

    No. It's a sissy move.

    If you turn the other cheek, I'll just beat on that cheek, too.
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    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    No. It's a sissy move.

    If you turn the other cheek, I'll just beat on that cheek, too.

    so continuing the fight or argument is the right thing to do?
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    so continuing the fight or argument is the right thing to do?

    Yes. Because trolling = lulz = ???? = PROFIT!
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    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Yes. Because trolling = lulz = ???? = PROFIT!

    right.. so lets start world war 3 because it would be a sissy move not to.
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  • Kawakami - Dreamweaver
    Kawakami - Dreamweaver Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Quite the fuss over something I wouldn't even bother to post on the forums.
    Few people make mistakes with fire after being once burned, of people who regard water lightly many have been drowned - Yamamoto Tsunetomo
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ah but WW3 would not meet the 3 criteria.

    It may be profitable and quite questionable ???? but its far from lulz so WW3 is out of the question.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ah but WW3 would not meet the 3 criteria.

    It may be profitable and quite questionable ???? but its far from lulz so WW3 is out of the question.

    No. It's totally lulz-worthy. You just gotta be able to laugh at those who said it wouldn't happen. There's your lulz, and there's your EPIC WIN.

    *readies the nukes*
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    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • IDaun - Raging Tide
    IDaun - Raging Tide Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Turning the other cheek=they get their way with you and whoever else they want to. Turning the other cheek is one of the worst options out there. If someone walked up to you and hit you, would you seriously just turn the other cheek and let him hit you again? How about if someone walked up and hit your wife/kid? "Oh well, I better not say anything, let's all just turn the other cheek".

    Personally, I don't think Saitada acted out of turn in any way. I've had people threaten me online to do something to me IRL (and one of said people was friends with someone who would give them the necessary info if they meant the threat.) It's not a nice thing. And nothing should provoke you to threaten to kill someone.

    The idiot yelled at his wife. He responded with calling the idiot a baby. The idiot threatened to kill him. It's clear who's in the wrong here.
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Rofl@People getting trolled by Konari.

    You've still got it, man. b:heart
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  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Turning the other cheek=they get their way with you and whoever else they want to. Turning the other cheek is one of the worst options out there. If someone walked up to you and hit you, would you seriously just turn the other cheek and let him hit you again? How about if someone walked up and hit your wife/kid? "Oh well, I better not say anything, let's all just turn the other cheek".

    Personally, I don't think Saitada acted out of turn in any way. I've had people threaten me online to do something to me IRL (and one of said people was friends with someone who would give them the necessary info if they meant the threat.) It's not a nice thing. And nothing should provoke you to threaten to kill someone.

    The idiot yelled at his wife. He responded with calling the idiot a baby. The idiot threatened to kill him. It's clear who's in the wrong here.

    either way ..they are all losers for taking a fight seriously on the internet.

    i would find more satisfaction in telling someone to bug off and ignoring them. After you ignore their names and insults are meaningless. They can keep saying what they want, but if you dont react to it.. then they have nothing else to fight you with. They are then powerless.

    but really.. its both fault. I'm not saying the other person is not accountable.
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  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    also for some people.. saying your going to kill someone is the same as your saying your going to beat them up.

    Its not like your actually going to eat that horse......
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