Lack of personal responsibility

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I dunno, I agree with a prior post; you are the instigator. You flame, and troll and sarcastically call people cupcake.

So if I sarcastically called you cupcake, would that make you want to kill me?

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So if I sarcastically called you cupcake, would that make you want to kill me?

I do not know about the person you were quoting, but I would ask you what type of cupcake before getting mad.... some cupcakes are just too yummy to get mad over....

Taranta - Dreamweaver

DollParts - Sanctuary wrote: »

you see .... This is the instigator. This is the person that makes people want to kill other people. This is pure evil.

Wow...just wow.

Not to even mention my own opinions of Saitada, or my opinions of your previous posts, but honestly? You sound like an idiot. Let me explain, as most people get lost here.

Good and evil are relative concepts. There is no overlying theme, no standard definition to all people of good as applicable to the real world. Simply enough, "good" can be conceptually defined as catering to certain interests. I may not find something to be defined under what could be qualified as "good", but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Similarly, "evil" works upon the same principle, with the small exception of evil within a creation. Unfortunately, that would probably be getting too technical for most internet forums, and I'll get back to my original reason for posting.

You claim that Saitada is "evil", not providing any evidence besides a single quote, which had been removed from context. I will say, congratulations on joining the conservative media machine, as they'd love to have another person on the team. You also refrained from providing any evidence to the contrary, thereby changing your "argument" into a simple attack against another person.

The quote that you used, even when out of context, can be interpreted in multiple ways. The way you want, where Saitada is portrayed as an instigator, an aggressor, a being who cares little for the welfare of another. There is also the interpretation that perceives Saitada as a person fed up with the drama from someone else, and used extreme measures to force the person to realize their own mistakes. If you're going to use a quote free from contextual bounds, you have to realize that there will still be people who do not agree with your interpretation, and will be very much aware of what yours is compared to their own.

Do not try to claim something without being able to back it up. More importantly, do not try to argue a concrete issue while using relative concepts. Your argument will become a failed attempt, and anyone who has the slightest inclination towards logical arguments will not hold back for one second when you use such a weak strategy. If you dislike Saitada, fine. You're entitled to your own opinion, and I can't change that. This does not, however, give you the right to defame him because you disagree or dislike him.

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver

DollParts - Sanctuary wrote: »

you see .... This is the instigator. This is the person that makes people want to kill other people. This is pure evil.

This is pure evil? THIS. IS. SPARTA! b:angry



Gotta lighten the mood somehow. b:chuckle

Brutally - Lost City

I've heard this x amount of times from people.
Usually after PKing. Especially if they're red and drop/shatter.
But once for beating someone in a duel. Then he went on to say I was a spoiled brat who needed to be punished and blahblahrandomqq.
[I had better gear than him from what I remember, I think that's what started it.]
You were right in reporting.
It's a game but, threatening your real life isn't part of it.
I need to remember to SS.b:surrender

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So if I sarcastically called you cupcake, would that make you want to kill me?

kill you? nah (not me at any rate). a name by itself, is just a minor thing. easily shrugged off. however, if you were to galavant about the place ridiculing, demeaning, etc.. it certainly could **** someone off, especially if it hits a weak spot or insults an aspect of someones persona they hold in high regards. IE.. calling someone with an IQ of 142 an idiot (142 being apparently gifted - and above 144 being genius). The result of that person getting pissed all depends on their specific mindset. As I like to say, theres a fine line between genius and mad scientist. So... if you're of the habit of pissing people off, you're gonna have to expect retaliation of sorts. Don't want the retaliation, then its best to put a sock in it.

Bai_Qi - Heavens Tear

Uh uh, NO, No. Let me tell u something Brother, If somone runs off and leaves his stuff, It's mine! I don't wait for no stupid Timer. He turns his back and walks off from the drops, his/her Loss! I would tell that person, who prolly has no respect for ppl. in the first place, To Kiss My A..! Seriously, whats he/she gonna do, have their little character beat me up? hahaha! What a joke, the person that told your wife that is prolly 12 anyway, their Momma should Beat their A.., for disrespecting Women anyway! Whoa, I just read it again, and what that thing threatened ur life? Aww man why is it always on a different server?

Darkangelbri - Lost City

In my opinion don't say something to someone you wouldn't say to your own mother, father, spouse or child.

I also know that I do have no room to talk about trash talk at times. But then again. We all have tempers, right? We all at some point loose them, right? **** happens and then you get the heck over it.

As far as someone threatening you IRL ingame thats just stupid on their part for even saying it. And I'm sorry to but it's also stupid on your part for letting it get to you.

Here are so key points to remember about the person making the threats:

1. They are sitting in front of a computer screen issueing threats to another person sitting in front of a computer screen. Seriously!?! I could see it if they had your personal information and actually knew you for you to be alarmed. But they don't.

2. They are most likely a teenage child who has yet to experience the true hardships of RL. Therefore are not to be taken seriously.

3. Are more than likely used to having things given to them with out actually having to "earn" them or "work" for them.

Of course this is just my twisted view.

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver

Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

kill you? nah (not me at any rate). a name by itself, is just a minor thing. easily shrugged off. however, if you were to galavant about the place ridiculing, demeaning, etc.. it certainly could **** someone off, especially if it hits a weak spot or insults an aspect of someones persona they hold in high regards. IE.. calling someone with an IQ of 142 an idiot (142 being apparently gifted - and above 144 being genius). The result of that person getting pissed all depends on their specific mindset. As I like to say, theres a fine line between genius and mad scientist. So... if you're of the habit of pissing people off, you're gonna have to expect retaliation of sorts. Don't want the retaliation, then its best to put a sock in it.

I think that's funny. My IQ is 142. b:chuckle

Yes, I've been called an idiot lots of times. But I'm not an idiot. I'm just lazy. b:cute

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I think that's funny.

gorramit!! I'm trying to make a point! stop laughing at meb:angryb:cry

I chose that number cuz that's the average score I've gotten from doing several on line IQ tests. Of course, none of them are likely a true IQ test. But I guess its close enough without paying for a test.

storehammy

err...
human IQ tests be...horribly horribly flawed lols...
they're bad enough to claim that teh current pseudo AI humans currently use can be classified as a "genius"
b:surrender

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So if I sarcastically called you cupcake, would that make you want to kill me?

No, but it might very well make me want to smack you upside your head.

There have been several people convicted of numerous crimes they didn't commit; by having pushed someone to the limit.

For instance. Sitting and torturing a 25 year old woman reminding her time and time again about abuse she may have sustained as a child til she finally snaps and offs you, I think they have a word for that don't they.. OH YES, they do. Like temporary insanity.. yeah thats it! And you were saying...

Taranta - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wow...just wow.

Not to even mention my own opinions of Saitada, or my opinions of your previous posts, but honestly? You sound like an idiot. Let me explain, as most people get lost here.

Good and evil are relative concepts. There is no overlying theme, no standard definition to all people of good as applicable to the real world. Simply enough, "good" can be conceptually defined as catering to certain interests. I may not find something to be defined under what could be qualified as "good", but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Similarly, "evil" works upon the same principle, with the small exception of evil within a creation. Unfortunately, that would probably be getting too technical for most internet forums, and I'll get back to my original reason for posting.

You claim that Saitada is "evil", not providing any evidence besides a single quote, which had been removed from context. I will say, congratulations on joining the conservative media machine, as they'd love to have another person on the team. You also refrained from providing any evidence to the contrary, thereby changing your "argument" into a simple attack against another person.

The quote that you used, even when out of context, can be interpreted in multiple ways. The way you want, where Saitada is portrayed as an instigator, an aggressor, a being who cares little for the welfare of another. There is also the interpretation that perceives Saitada as a person fed up with the drama from someone else, and used extreme measures to force the person to realize their own mistakes. If you're going to use a quote free from contextual bounds, you have to realize that there will still be people who do not agree with your interpretation, and will be very much aware of what yours is compared to their own.

Do not try to claim something without being able to back it up. More importantly, do not try to argue a concrete issue while using relative concepts. Your argument will become a failed attempt, and anyone who has the slightest inclination towards logical arguments will not hold back for one second when you use such a weak strategy. If you dislike Saitada, fine. You're entitled to your own opinion, and I can't change that. This does not, however, give you the right to defame him because you disagree or dislike him.

All of this is why you would lose in court, especially against a jury of your own peers who you better hope to hell don't dislike Saitada and his "persona".

A court of law; regardless of YOUR perception of right and wrong, has its own dictation of it. It is, in fact; relative.

Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

kill you? nah (not me at any rate). a name by itself, is just a minor thing. easily shrugged off. however, if you were to galavant about the place ridiculing, demeaning, etc.. it certainly could **** someone off, especially if it hits a weak spot or insults an aspect of someones persona they hold in high regards. IE.. calling someone with an IQ of 142 an idiot (142 being apparently gifted - and above 144 being genius). The result of that person getting pissed all depends on their specific mindset. As I like to say, theres a fine line between genius and mad scientist. So... if you're of the habit of pissing people off, you're gonna have to expect retaliation of sorts. Don't want the retaliation, then its best to put a sock in it.

Exactly. My Iq is 138 btw. But I agree with your last line. If you like to **** people off, expect retaliation. If you don't like retaliation, then you best quit trying to **** people off. Thats pretty simple.

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No, but it might very well make me want to smack you upside your head.

Just making sure.



Cupcake.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Ok so i'm on my Sin helping my wife while we are looking for a particular mob. Another character is running around killing things, and not picking up their loot. My wife picks up the stuff (obviously the loot timer has expired) and this other player calls my wife a Thief (wrong move) for picking up loot that is 'free for all'.

Now.. as most of you know, most of the mobs in the new TB area don't agro unless you smack them, and they don't normally have a group agro response. Such was the case here, I could whack-a-mob right next to it's brother and it's brother wouldn't agro.. so there was no mob agro excuse for not picking up their loot right away if they wanted it.

Being nice, I first said that once the loot timer was up, the loot was free for anyone to pick up (this is simple truth), I didn't figure I needed to explain more than that. Except.. the individual kept saying my wife was stealing from her. (again... not smart on their part).

I stopped being so nice. I told them again, that once the loot timer expired loot was free for anyone to pick up, so quit crying about it.

They said it was their loot etc etc ad nauseum...

I got a little meaner.

I told them again.. once the loot timer was up, loot was fair game and to stop being a baby about it. To quit whining.

They told me to Go Away.

I told them and here I quote myself exactly...

"Why Should I? Just because you can't handle the truth?"
"Whine some more baby"

Their response...

"How would you like me to find you and kill you in real life punk?"

I took a screen shot, told them I had and told them to enjoy their ban.

Now here is where it gets interesting...

A few minutes later I get a PM ostensibly from this persons 'friend' trying to blame me for her friend making threats. Trying to say that I egged her on, and goaded her into her making the threat, and that it was MY fault her friend made the threat.

Now understand here, at NO TIME did I make ANY threat of ANY KIND to this person, either to mess with them in game, or out of game. I just called them a whinny baby (that is literally the worst I said to them) and that they couldn't handle the truth about the loot timers.

Anyway this 'friend' tried for 20 minutes or so to get me to admit that it was my fault, and that I was responsible for her 'friend' making the threat. And there fore that I was liable for her friends behavior.

One of the final statements they made was this...

'It doesn't matter what anyone says, they shouldn't get banned for it"

Now to the point of this topic.

Each person is responsible for what they say. It doesn't matter if God himself pushes you to say something, YOU are responsible for your own actions. Nobody else 'makes' you do or say anything.

At no time in this conversation with either of these 'people' did I say anything more than calling them a crybaby. Whiner. And that they were unable to handle the truth. Yet they somehow feel it is MY responsibility for THEIR behavior.

You know.. when I was a kid, it was fairly well explained to me (I had trouble sitting down more than once) that I was responsible for my own behavior. That if another kid did something I knew they were not supposed to do, and helped them with it anyway, it wasn't the other kids fault I did wrong. It was my own.

I'm not going to name names here. But I have this to say to you little whining crybaby. The only person that can make you do anything, is yourself. You are obviously a child that has not yet been taught by your parents personal responsibility for your own actions. You should be removed from your parents because they have obviously failed in their duty as a parent in teaching you this.

~Saitada

If nub QQs to you about you picking up their **** when they don't, ignore them. Even better, pick up more of their ****. Hell, follow them around waiting for the timer on every thing that drops to be up. If anything, it'll teach 'em a lesson, that if they want their drops, to pick them up. The fact that you went this far over a very small issue shows you're a drama queen. Not that I'm complaining, because you made a popcorn worthy overreacting post and turned molehills into mountains just like the other person.

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Just making sure.



Cupcake.

Aww you must be the wifey. It doesn't offend me I been called worse, by better.

DollParts - Sanctuary

Taranta - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wow...just wow.

Not to even mention my own opinions of Saitada, or my opinions of your previous posts, but honestly? You sound like an idiot. Let me explain, as most people get lost here.

Good and evil are relative concepts. There is no overlying theme, no standard definition to all people of good as applicable to the real world. Simply enough, "good" can be conceptually defined as catering to certain interests. I may not find something to be defined under what could be qualified as "good", but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Similarly, "evil" works upon the same principle, with the small exception of evil within a creation. Unfortunately, that would probably be getting too technical for most internet forums, and I'll get back to my original reason for posting.

You claim that Saitada is "evil", not providing any evidence besides a single quote, which had been removed from context. I will say, congratulations on joining the conservative media machine, as they'd love to have another person on the team. You also refrained from providing any evidence to the contrary, thereby changing your "argument" into a simple attack against another person.

The quote that you used, even when out of context, can be interpreted in multiple ways. The way you want, where Saitada is portrayed as an instigator, an aggressor, a being who cares little for the welfare of another. There is also the interpretation that perceives Saitada as a person fed up with the drama from someone else, and used extreme measures to force the person to realize their own mistakes. If you're going to use a quote free from contextual bounds, you have to realize that there will still be people who do not agree with your interpretation, and will be very much aware of what yours is compared to their own.

Do not try to claim something without being able to back it up. More importantly, do not try to argue a concrete issue while using relative concepts. Your argument will become a failed attempt, and anyone who has the slightest inclination towards logical arguments will not hold back for one second when you use such a weak strategy. If you dislike Saitada, fine. You're entitled to your own opinion, and I can't change that. This does not, however, give you the right to defame him because you disagree or dislike him.

your missing my personality

... i'm dramatic.


i didnt take anything out of context.. didnt he say he handed a suicidal person a knife and wouldn't care if they killed themselves with it, that it would be one less idiot and no big loss? seriously.. how can anyone defend that.
Maybe i'm an idiot, but i would have found that person some help or atleast tried to make them feel better about themselves.
Knowingly handing a suicidal person a knife and they use that knife to do it? you better believe His butt would be in prison.

ninjabear33

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Or perhaps your off to do other things due to the fact that you are the same as the person you are crying about? You in the past have prided yourself on not caring what other people have to say, yet you care about this?

It didn't start from them saying something to him, it started from them calling his wife names...what was he supposed to do? just be like "oh that's alright you can call my wife whatever names you want."? You're insulting him for sticking up for his wife...Caring about what people say to you is a LOT different from caring what people say to loved ones.

Saitada - Sanctuary

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If you like to **** people off, expect retaliation. If you don't like retaliation, then you best quit trying to **** people off. Thats pretty simple.

I Am a blunt, no nonsense type person. I don't pull any punches when I talk to people. Not here, nor in real life. I call things as I see them, and I don't give three damns if a person doesn't like how I stated it.

If they can't handle the blunt cold truth and if they want to make threats, and get physical, I'm game and they can bring it on any time they want. I don't HIDE behind the Internet and make threats. I have told people where I live, and I have posted pictures of myself on these forums. If they are so intent to act on their threats, then I say bring it on and lets see what it nets them. I am doubting very much the results they expect by showing up will be what they get. I can back up my mouth.

~Saitada

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Aww you must be the wifey. It doesn't offend me I been called worse, by better.

I was wondering what was going to come first, calling me the wife or Saitada's alt. Unfortunately for you, I'm neither.

Saitada - Sanctuary

DollParts - Sanctuary wrote: »

your missing my personality

... i'm dramatic.


i didnt take anything out of context.. didnt he say he handed a suicidal person a knife and wouldn't care if they killed themselves with it, that it would be one less idiot and no big loss? seriously.. how can anyone defend that.
Maybe i'm an idiot, but i would have found that person some help or atleast tried to make them feel better about themselves.
Knowingly handing a suicidal person a knife and they use that knife to do it? you better believe His butt would be in prison.

DollParts read my response to your statement, and you will have more information that might help you better decide if what you said here is worthy of an edit or not.

~S

Malei - Sanctuary

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If nub QQs to you about you picking up their **** when they don't, ignore them. Even better, pick up more of their ****. Hell, follow them around waiting for the timer on every thing that drops to be up. If anything, it'll teach 'em a lesson, that if they want their drops, to pick them up. The fact that you went this far over a very small issue shows you're a drama queen. Not that I'm complaining, because you made a popcorn worthy overreacting post and turned molehills into mountains just like the other person.

Going to back up with Sai on this, 100%.

The issue here was not the fact that there was any "QQ" about drops or anything of the like. The issue here was the fact that personal responsibility must be taken for every action that each of us, as adults, teens, children, whatever, has made. Sai, though in a brash form, had tried to explain to the person about the timer. The person continued to badger and pester them, when obviously they didn't want to listen to the explaination about the timer on the drops given to them.

Notice he said that his wife was being harassed, not himself. I wouldn't have done anything different if someone harassed someone I loved. I would tell them to get over it, stop being a baby, and actually listen to what I was trying to explain to them and move on.

When the death threat was made, that is when things got serious. Sai posted this thread to let others know that this is not okay. If you do something, you must own up to it. You can't think that your actions will go without consequences. Though this is the internet, it is indeed a part of the real world, and like it has been stated before, you have no idea what the intentions of the other person on the other side of the monitor intends to do. What if they do fulfill out such a threat? what if they meant every single word they said? Would you just "ignore" them then?

I hope that character got exactly what he deserved, even if it was a ban. In the real world, you need to learn to watch yourself, your mouth, and your actions. And, if you act out of line, you take the freakin' punishment. I've had similar experiences with death threats over the "interwebz" before. Some of those that you think you can just "ignore" are very real.

I agree with Sai. Calling someone a whiny baby will never justify killing anyone. Period. Take responsibility, people, and think about the moves you make against any other player.

Taranta - Dreamweaver

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

All of this is why you would lose in court, especially against a jury of your own peers who you better hope to hell don't dislike Saitada and his "persona".

A court of law; regardless of YOUR perception of right and wrong, has its own dictation of it. It is, in fact; relative.

Right and wrong are completely different as compared to good and evil. Right and wrong are the socially accepted rules and regulations, enforced by some sort of presiding body (in most cases a legal system), and normally carrying some sort of cost/benefit situation. Good and Evil, however, are not. People will inaccurately use these terms, partially because it is easier for people to think in broad terms when judging someone. People are trained to think along one process of Good and Evil, but are also told to be willing to accept that what many think is right may be wrong elsewhere.

The sides of the legal system uses this to their advantage, however often the opposing side attempts to stop them. It is very easy for someone to make a judgment on whether or not a person is good or evil, but right and wrong are much more of a grey area. It becomes harder for the average person to figure if someone was right or wrong when evidence is presented. Therefore, many lawyers attempt to use good and evil, or words synonymous to good and evil to allow people to make quick judgments.


And I know I would lose in court. Here's a few reasons why:

a) There are far more appealing people in the world as compared to myself. I'm kind of a smartass in real life, no matter how hard I try not to be.

b) I think more in terms of grey compared to the black and white ruleset of the legal system

c) I have an extremely short temper, and respond very easily to provocation. Lacking the ability to reliably control this, I could very well fly off the handle on nearly anyone in a courtroom for anything that really annoyed me.

Understanding my own limitations, I stay away from legal situations as much as possible. I do, however, enjoy a little verbal bout, and it makes it all the more entertaining when my opponent hates me. Although I know I'm vulnerable to provocation, I have also become very adept at the same thing, and can have a person in a red-faced rage rather easily. Even without doing that, an angry or upset person is more likely to make mistakes. Mistakes are exploitable instances that should be used at every opportunity within an arguemnt.


Now, if you'll excuse me, it is very late and I would like some sleep. Hopefully this all comes to a conclusion soon.

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't HIDE behind the Internet
~Saitada

I don't really know you much tbh, but just from this thread I will state this much about your character:
A) you like to talk tough, like you're some bad ****
you may not "hide behind the internet" but you sure as hell hide behind a shotgun.

btw.. I thought you were off to do other things?

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

ninjabear33 wrote: »

It didn't start from them saying something to him, it started from them calling his wife names...what was he supposed to do? just be like "oh that's alright you can call my wife whatever names you want."? You're insulting him for sticking up for his wife...Caring about what people say to you is a LOT different from caring what people say to loved ones.

My response was from his prior posts on this forum, had nothing to do with THIS specific circumstance. Please reread.

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

I Am a blunt, no nonsense type person. I don't pull any punches when I talk to people. Not here, nor in real life. I call things as I see them, and I don't give three damns if a person doesn't like how I stated it.

If they can't handle the blunt cold truth and if they want to make threats, and get physical, I'm game and they can bring it on any time they want. I don't HIDE behind the Internet and make threats. I have told people where I live, and I have posted pictures of myself on these forums. If they are so intent to act on their threats, then I say bring it on and lets see what it nets them. I am doubting very much the results they expect by showing up will be what they get. I can back up my mouth.

~Saitada

So what you are saying is, that while you are complaining that someone outright "threatened" your life, you welcome; hell even invite them to come let you back your own mouth up. You say you post pictures and have given out where you live, like you are taunting someone to come give you a reason for violence.

Sorry, I think that you believe the wrong person here has the issue.

When you invite trouble, what do you expect to get.

As the saying goes, no need to bring your own gasoline to an already raging fire. (ok I made that up but it sure sounds good)

Saitada - Sanctuary

Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't really know you much tbh, but just from this thread I will state this much about your character:
A) you like to talk tough, like you're some bad ****
you may not "hide behind the internet" but you sure as hell hide behind a shotgun.

btw.. I thought you were off to do other things?

And a Glock. And a .06. And a Remington under/over. And the belief that it is always better to meet stupidity with overwhelming force.

I am multi tasking atm.

~S

perire

Epic thread.

I don't think Saitada was wrong responding the way he did to the accusations the other player was making against his wife. Sometimes people get called what they are, in this case a whiner and crybaby.

Those of you saying he's the one responsible for provoking the other player to issue an IRL death threat? I think you're the ones who should think about what they say, and how it makes you look.

Enough said.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

As the saying goes, no need to bring your own gasoline to an already raging fire. (ok I made that up but it sure sounds good)

There are far better choices for flamable materials than gasoline.... I am sure Saitada would use something with a much bigger punch... pun intended.

BeingHope - Harshlands

The lesson of this story kids:

If someone picks up your drops, live with it. Its a game after all, right?


b:chuckleb:laugh hahahahaha, thats awesome. Those people are such fails :P

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

And a Glock. And a .06. And a Remington under/over. And the belief that it is always better to meet stupidity with overwhelming force.

I am multi tasking atm.

~S

You see, now we are down to the nitty gritty of things. The fact that you are here telling us this stuff an implied threat in itself. Sure the words aren't implicitly written - but its enough for a person to think that you're just looking for an excuse to shoot/maim/kill someone. I mean, you're pretty much saying, from telling us this stuff, that "I welcome you to come and try to fulfill your threats, because I'm gonna kill you". Sure you didn't say it outright, but that's what I'm getting from it. The fact that you openly give out your address and pictures in the face of confrontation tells me you have nefarious plans of your own. So it begs the question... why point out that X person saying X thing is wrong, but its okay for you to do the same thing in an implied manner?

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

perire wrote: »

Epic thread.

I don't think Saitada was wrong responding the way he did to the accusations the other player was making against his wife. Sometimes people get called what they are, in this case a whiner and crybaby.

Those of you saying he's the one responsible for provoking the other player to issue an IRL death threat? I think you're the ones who should think about what they say, and how it makes you look.

Enough said.

I don't think anyone said he was responsible. We all believe he could have just ignored it and went on. I liked Janus' idea about not saying anything and just following him picking up his loot.

However; the other player called his wife a thief. Believing that HE thought she was one. No different than him calling the other player a whiner/crybaby. Both parties were in the wrong here with how they dealt with the situation.

Have you read all the posts? I should think that anyone who hands their friend a knife and encourages suicide is the one who should be worried about what they are saying and how it makes them look. At least call the popo and have them admitted into an asylum. Jeez.