Myth Buster: make a veno to get rich....

...Or you could quit being lazy and QQing and use a Golem to farm TT for your cash just like the venos in my guild do.

Just like you don't need charms to play this game, you as a veno don't necessarily need a Herc.

Why do you think you can tame the magmites for free?

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Arverna - Sanctuary wrote: »

Some ppl on those forums, as always,are very fast at using QQ in a sentence and at softly flaming people down without even understanding the post it seems

What about sarcasm maybe and stating a fact that somehow is kind of funny...

Also about informing other new players... Look into other threads, some players are still advising to make a veno for new players in order to make cash....

But it is apparently pointless to even start a discussion thread of those forums as the only discussion possible is about QQ'ing....

And I agree you do not need a Herc, was only stating a strange fact

Over and out, learn to read before you post !!

Let's break it down.

1. You say that venos are claimed to be the best way to get rich.

2. You then complain at how expensive Hercs are and claim you need one to get rich in the first place.

3. You then complain that you will never see a Herc.

So firstly, yes that was a QQ post.
Secondly, what is there for us to discuss besides remind you that magmites are free?

Arverna - Sanctuary wrote: »

1-WRONG: title says Myth Buster, so you go look at the thread little below from new player asking how he can be rich and you count how many ppl say make a Herc.

2-Wrong again, stated, Myth used to be true but not anymore, then give few datas to explain why it is not...

3- True: 1 sentence yes can be interpreted as QQ ing i agree

But the myth isn't busted because a veno can get just as rich using a magmite.


Are you on drugs or something?

Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »

But the myth isn't busted because a veno can get just as rich using a magmite.


Are you on drugs or something?

So can every other class....... Its called merchandizing.

If you look for other ways besides buying low/selling high:

1. Every other class, with the exception of barbs, can AOE farm faster for more drops/money than venos can
2. Barbs can make far more in a TT run with a full party, when you take into account time it takes to do the run, since they will always have 1st or 2nd pick (depends if subber gets first pick or just extra mirages)
3. Clerics can do almost as good in a TT run, since they get 2nd or 3rd pick (depends if subber gets first pick or just extra mirages)
4. If subber gets first pick, than any class can make nice money in TT, if they sub.

Biggest advantage of the veno is just that they can do most things alone, if they choose to. The disadvantage is that they are much slower at it, when they choose do it alone.

Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »

NO OTHER CLASS CAN FARM TT SOLO. PERIOD.

and you need herc to be able to farm TT solo???

Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »

EDIT: Jazmin, anyone who says any other class can make as much as a veno does farming TT solo by grinding or collecting mats is wrong, period. TT mats can go for millions. Grind drops or mats can't.

With an equal time investment, any non-fail veno will come out on top.

LMAO.... You telling me that a barb in a full squad will be worse off than a veno soloing a TT run?

Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »

Uh, no.

Venos in my guild manage just fine with their Golems.

You really should lay off the oracles if you really believe a veno soloing with a magnite can do better than a barb or cleric can with a full squad....

Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »

Uh, no.

Venos in my guild manage just fine with their Golems.

what level is she? and which TT is she soloing?
dont say that she's lvl8x soloing TT 1-1 chientien, cause you cant get rich from that

b:chuckle ok veno with mag can do solo TT, correct. usub/subs for each run. the fact that one might end up with 0 mats on each run is also a norm. getting rich or not using a veno? thats just one's oppinion. Any other class who wish to prove using a veno to make easy 80mil? train one, there will be no argument there after. Any veno who thinks other class get money just as easy? train one!... i find it weird anyone has to be even discuss bout it, just train one of which u think is right and find out.

amberine wrote: »

b:chuckle ok veno with mag can do solo TT, correct. usub/subs for each run. the fact that one might end up with 0 mats on each run is also a norm. getting rich or not using a veno? thats just one's oppinion. Any other class who wish to prove using a veno to make easy 80mil? train one, there will be no argument there after. Any veno who thinks other class get money just as easy? train one!... i find it weird anyone has to be even discuss bout it, just train one of which u think is right and find out.

Sounds great to me, I'm sick of arguing a stupid point anyway.

I'm off to bed.

You're honestly going to tell me that Barb/Cleric/DD/DD isn't better than Veno? Sure, a Veno can solo ANYTHING. But does that mean it's the most cost efficient? Not a chance. In the time it takes one Veno to solo something, a decent party could plow through it several times. Why is this? Simple. It requires 4 people to open the door. A Veno trying to solo has to gather 3 other people, as well as trying to let the instance reset. All a party of four has to do is disband, and once someone is outside, invite the rest of the party back. Boom. Clean instance. They've got 4 times the destructive power, as a barb can gather up clusters of mobs while the DDs AoE them. A Veno either has to pick one by one, or let the Herc tank a handful, which is a whole other set of problems to itself.

However, in terms of grinding, which supposedly is another thing Veno's are "Best At" the only thing Venos come out ahead on (against other casters) is MP saving. Although, once a Wizard, or Cleric reaches 59, they can double spark, combined with their MP regeneration, to keep theirs up. Hell, they could even take the effort to get some MP regen gear, or tomes. I know someone with a +12 MP Regen Tome. There goes the "Veno Advantage". A good Wizard or Cleric barely gets hit, as well, so there goes the repair costs. Combine that with the very high DPS combined with variety of spells, and you've got a faster kill speed than a Veno, with the ability to grind for quite a long time. If you start to run out of MP, you simply use the MP pots you get as you grind, and you don't even have to go to town until your inventory is full, or your weapon breaks.

So, no. Venos aren't the best money making class. They are the best SOLO money making class, yes, because of people's willingness to spend crazy amounts on TT Mats. But a party of people can make more profit at a Veno's own game, if only people understood the concept of working together.

Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »

But the myth isn't busted because a veno can get just as rich using a magmite.

now thats not true

Nastassiya - Sanctuary wrote: »

I honestly don't understand why people complain about a nix and herc are so expensive. If you have a family, I can see. Feed your kids before you spend $200 on a pet. If you are not tied down instead of your fast food runs put that $7.00 per meal in s savings jar for a pet. Eat at home! It cost less...

u can always grind those lege pets but with current gold price its waste of time

Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »

A good Wizard or Cleric barely gets hit, as well, so there goes the repair costs. Combine that with the very high DPS combined with variety of spells, and you've got a faster kill speed than a Veno, with the ability to grind for quite a long time. If you start to run out of MP, you simply use the MP pots you get as you grind, and you don't even have to go to town until your inventory is full, or your weapon breaks.

This is wrong. Every1 must repair their gear. It doesn't matter if you are hitted or not. If you casting spell you always have to repair your gear not just weapon.