Anniversary Pack Discussion

Packs Back = fine, some like and many do not.

BUT

For the love...the Red Text b:surrender <

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This is more the issue imo

Duke is perma KOS b:angry

eatwithspoons wrote: »

keep expressing your displeasure in this thread, I appreciate those who have kept it contained to here. b:victory

Everyone else, consider this:
-We can't read all duplicate and spam topics on days like this, there's just not time.
-The above is why we ask you to post here, makes it much easier.
-GMs and moderators do not control sales, so making their jobs harder is not helping anything.
-Less spam threads needing lock means more time I can compile this feedback and count how many folks are responding here, so it's a win-win situation to post here.

I'm sorry to those who are angered by this sale, but please remember that feedback that is written calmly and without flames is what we need, flames come a dime a dozen and they don't help the situation.

Please give us an explanation spoons. b:surrender What was the purpose of bringing these back? What was PW thinking?

#include <iostream.h>
#include <conio.h>
void main( )
{
clrscr( );
int x;
cout<<"DA BOSS: Should we release the Anniversary Packs again?"<<endl;
cout<<"Type: 1 for Yes, 0 for No"<<endl;
cin>>x;
if(x==1)
cout<<"YOU GOT RAISE!"<<endl;
else
cout<<"YOU FIRED!"<<endl;
getch( );
}

Centetric - Lost City wrote: »

i demand u equip my sig b:angry

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am rotating b:cute

#include <iostream.h>
#include <conio.h>
void main( )
{
clrscr( );
int x;
cout<<"DA BOSS: Should we release the Anniversary Packs again?"<<endl;
cout<<"Type: 1 for Yes, 0 for No"<<endl;
cin>>x;
if(x==1)
cout<<"YOU GOT RAISE!"<<endl;
else
cout<<"YOU FIRED!"<<endl;
getch( );
}

+1

Otherwise, appreciate spoon posted, but it's deja vu, just "post on this thread." Where will the compilation go?

instead y dont the GM's put all these items in the cash shop to buy?

eatwithspoons wrote: »

Everyone else, consider this:
-We can't read all duplicate and spam topics on days like this, there's just not time.
-The above is why we ask you to post here, makes it much easier.

Maybe but the clearest most easiest to read (would have saved you even reading this thread) thread was shut down.

Cant get anymore easier to read than a Poll indicating wether players wanted these packs back or not.

TBH your choice, read countless posts of players saying they are not happy or having a quick look at a poll result which says the same thing.

So it would be nice (cant see it happening) if that poll was re-opened and also makes it easier for the GM's at a glance to gauge players reaction

do you come into a game advertised as "F2P" to spend a ton of money to feel 1337? most people don't do that. they come into a F2P game to play a game that's free, and if they like it, they buy something for themselves.

Not, i'm not come to spend a ton of money BUT i'm understand that good game cannot be free. If someone not like disbalance between free players and donators - he go to month fee games. If u come to play to F2P server - u must be ready that donators will have advantage.
And really - in PW very good balance between free and donate. If compare with some other games.

and have you any ideas how much high levels spend on charms, shards, gear, GAs, refines, sockets? do you even know what refines are?

The ones that spend thousands of dollars over a period of time as opposed to the ones that spend one hundred and then quit

Let's look from "PW Co" side They ALREADY spend that money. And most high lvl players reduce game activity... because next level is sooo far... no need to hurry.
But new members ready to spent new money.
How long from 1 to 80? 1-3 months. It's TT60, TT70, TT80... mats, refine, shards...
How long from 80 to 100?... i think u understand.

And one more... how many TOPs in this topic who spend hundreds per month and continue to do it? I saw lot of TOPs in Duke's shout on my server... but noone here. m?...

The servers aren't even close to being full...are you actually suggesting that they did this with the purpose of making people leave?

Not really But this situation is real - this trouble happens on russian servers (and they have 8 servers).

People leaving because they are ready to leave. So this is little impulse. May be without ann packs it happens few months later. IMHO.

Poison - Heavens Tear wrote: »

http://www.benzinga.com/23741/bookkeeping-stopped-out-of-good-portion-of-perfect-world-pwrd

$40??? ya that is ****ing high ...

I missed the poll, actually, which irritates me somewhat.

But and however, that point aside! As many, many players have repeatedly pointed out - a poll isn't just a post or three made by a player who's irritated and annoyed by the actions of game management (please note I'm keeping that vague on purpose) - a poll is an actual bunch of statistics.

If you were to write, say, an essay, or report, on the effect of the anniversary packs being re-released, then you could include as many opinions as you can bare to read. But what really actually makes a difference in such reports is those statistics - the statistics that were so nicely shut down and made to disappear.

GMs, mods, we are all very aware you are not responsible for these packs. Yes, some are blowing their top unnecessarily, but the majority of players here have been quite calm while expressing their opinion and have stated that they understand you do not run the game. But as GMs, and as moderators too, you are the only people we can come to about these sorts of problems - the "upper boundaries" of management are behind a thick steel door with the words "off limits" burned into it a thousand times over to us players.
Spam threads are unhelpful, I agree.
That poll was a bunch of statistics that not only saved page after page to read through, but was also at the end of the day a bunch of evidence that these packs are not wanted. Whether they would help in the long run or not, to throw such things aside with the same age-old excuse we are seeing used more often is a dismissal of important opinion, in all honesty, or (and I mean no offence at all, I understand your jobs are not easy and I respect what you have to put up with) the beginnings of the shunning of the responsibility you hold.

But apparently, it was already calculated by popular numbers that these were 'back by popular demand!'

if you dont like cleaning up the forums when the player base is in an uproar, try coming up with something better than the automated, prepackaged reply of 'we the gms cannot control this or that' 'its all the dev's fault'

Guess what? we cant get ahold of the devs, and we submit tickets, but never get responses 75% of the time, even a few months down the road. what do you suggest we do? organize a march to san francisco and barge through your front doors and bust into your cubicles/offices?

trust me, as much as I would love to see that vision come to life and see the pure panic strewn all over 'the guys to blame's' faces, I dont want to waste another dime on this game, no matter what it is.

Why bother guys... there's no point in talking about this. I use to think that we can make a difference on here. But:

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=406242

190 pages later...

DELETED see the next page, don't see the delete button and if i do i'll delete it

MiksIr - Harshlands wrote: »

Not, i'm not come to spend a ton of money BUT i'm understand that good game cannot be free. If someone not like disbalance between free players and donators - he go to month fee games. If u come to play to F2P server - u must be ready that donators will have advantage.
And really - in PW very good balance between free and donate. If compare with some other games.



Let's look from "PW Co" side They ALREADY spend that money. And most high lvl players reduce game activity... because next level is sooo far... no need to hurry.
But new members ready to spent new money.
How long from 1 to 80? 1-3 months. It's TT60, TT70, TT80... mats, refine, shards...
How long from 80 to 100?... i think u understand.

And one more... how many TOPs in this topic who spend hundreds per month and continue to do it? I saw lot of TOPs in Duke's shout on my server... but noone here. m?...


Not really But this situation is real - this trouble happens on russian servers (and they have 8 servers).

People leaving because they are ready to leave. So this is little impulse. May be without ann packs it happens few months later. IMHO.

you suggest that the new members would spend a ****load of $$ to heavily refine their gear only to have to do it again a lot sooner because they level fasterrrr? thus they spend more because they change gear more...right? you know what? NO! you don't get many of those around because most people are not R - E - T - A - R - D - S. do you have any idea how much it costs in real $$ to refine something to higher levels? just by straight buying gold? any ****ing idea?? of course, everyone here is ready to refine their TT60 to +10 sharded with perfects wooohooooooo

frankly, if someone just spends $200 bucks to refine +8, then they've spent more than a p2p player spent in a year, now think of the ppl with lategame gear that refine their **** to +11, how much money is that? does it still matter how long their gear lasts in terms of game profits? and what about charms, GAs, what about those? that is steady income as long as players pvp, much much more than what they'd spend in a p2p game by far. and even on pve servers, as higher levels take longer to level up, a LOT of them start pking. if a high lvl is made to stay, he/she generates much more income than some lowbie unless said lowbie is a **** that pisses money but then, it can be reasoned that said lowbie would become an even bigger spender at higher levels and just have money diarrhea out.