New prices on mounts

Kymi - Sanctuary wrote: »

But here's the kicker.. It's 20 Gold in the cash shop, which works out at around 2 Mill (for the time that I got him) or 4 Mill-ish for current coin/gold conversion rates. So here's my question. What did I spend the best part of 18 million coins for? I have, for all intents and purposes thrown 14 Mill coins down the toilet and wasted a whole chunk of my life for nothing.
For nothing? You got the horse you wanted, how is that for nothing? If you buy a car today, when you drive it off the lot it depreciates in value. These are just pixels yes, but I see a bunch of children learning valuable life lessons. That is how life works, most things go down in value over time.



This only solidifies my belief that PWI bigwigs do not care for their existing players, and prefer to cater only to drawing in new people. It happens everywhere, heck even my ISP does similar marketing strategies. "I'm sorry, this deal is available to new customers only" comes to mind.
But you still have internet don't you?


I loved PWI from the first day I set foot in this game. I am still trying to love it almost a year later. But stunts like this certainly make it difficult.
Love the game, its still the same game. Just like every1 complaining of the bounty hunter. Don't do it, welcome to the same game you had before. You will likely not find a game this nice that is free to play. Truly, this game is enjoyable. Too many people sweat the small stuff.


So what if I leave? I am just one person. So what if some others of similar mind sets also go? There will always be someone new, with much more ready cash to spend who will take my place. But is that what you really want PWI powers-that-be? Do you really want to lose your loyal players in favour of the casual gamer who spends a bit, then leaves in search of something new, some three months down the line?

With all the people suggestion what they do and don't want in forums and in emails, PW can't be anything but confused. People want want want.. they give give give. No one is still happy. No matter what the company does people complain. They are trying to change things FOR the loyal players, DQ was one of the main complaints. No one could get a horse and it took forever, they've changed that; and now the complaints will roll.

~ Kymi

kosake666 wrote: »

I only have 1 major complaint about the new mount prices...

All the damn crying over World Chat about "oh noez! I wurked so hard! End of world!!!!11111oneone"

- How many people spent 25m+ for a herc right before a Battle Pet Pack sale?
- How many times have people bought fresh charms, right before another charm sale?
- How much "bonus" gold has been lost by them randomly announcing a 15% bonus zhen, AFTER people have charged hundreds on there accounts?
- How often have people bought a new mount just to have the special edition mount of there dreams released soon after?

My point is this: These events are really just sprung on us. We can all cry about it, flood world chat with needless complaints, and go sit in the emo corner, -OR- we can just accept that maybe our being impatient, greedy, selfish players has something to do with it some times.

Oh, and god forbid the idea of it just being bad luck that you bought something full price right before it goes on sale.

/rant

Notgood - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You don't get it enough is enough, people are on there last nerves here. The gms have done enough with the result of disadisfaction and quitting, with all these threads still no solution. Well this has almost got to the point where it seems like they're doing it on purpose. Maybe that's why.

BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Last night when they news came out there were literally probably 50 threads on the subject. All were flaming and this is against the Terms of Service on the forums. THAT is why they were shutting down threads. This is one of the main ones that was left open due to the fact it was the first one started.

BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Please note: the GM's have NOTHING to do with the sales, the patches, the updates or anything else you are unhappy with this game about. They are merely the complaint department and damage control. Please quit blaming them for anything, they are here to take your concerns to the owners/developers.

AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So step off your high horse Brat its unsightly.

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BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I am on the verge of thinking your a GM alt or some such thing similar.

Wow look at that, I achieved status without even trying. Anyone who knows me on this forum can definitely tell you, I am no such thing. Altho I think its quite awesome you would imply so.

You are welcome.


I have been working towards getting a Silvermane. Its not easy. I'm not rich. I'm poorer for it. (not selling DQ's sucks)


And now you know why I didn't do the quest. Too many people said it wasn't worth it when I started. Now looking back, I can see why. I made way more coins in game then I ever would have if I'd done the quest. But I can tell you one thing, I do every single quest other than DQ this game has to offer, I work my tail off grinding in game to get the things I think I deserve.

Was the above paragraph even necessary?? Well...um..good for you?!

I would congratulate them. Such perseverance deserves a reward. And a bit of respect.
Now this I can agree on. The perseverance does deserve respect and reward. Both of which they still get by completing the quest. But how many people used a spur from the CS to make their horse faster? If they did that, then the reward truly wasn't the original...

You start off well here. But at the end more.....

Now I understand your statements before saying that they might/could have been high level players that bought the DQ's with coin. Or they are players who sold gold. But understand, not all are like this.

Quite frankly, a lot are like this. If there wasn't so many CS sales do you think they'd keep putting new stuff in there? They put it there, because someone buys them.

Another meaningless statement of nothing.

Your belittling of this achievement, I find to be rude. Your "Suck it up drive on. This is life." attitude, although accurate I find to be a little out of place in this particular area.

I have not once belittled the achievement. If you do the DQ you still get the horse. Its still an achievement. Even more now since you can buy it in the cash shop and not getting it that way and taking the easy way out makes it more of an achievement you should be proud of by doing so.

Why would someone work to get this now with DQ orders? It doesn't make sense. You could sell all the DQ's drops needed to get your DQ orders and buy the horse in auction or from another player. And have coin left over.

This is a game. We set goals for ourselves. This is one of those things that allows us to enjoy the game. Like the 13 year old boy who worked so hard just for a panther.

Your goal can still be set. I am failing to see this. They did not remove the option to DQ your way to a mount. They just gave a secondary option to get it.

The 13 year old boy has a luxury some of us don't. At 13 I was working, I had a job. At 16 when I got a learners permit I bought MY own car I earned. I took care of it, and cherished it more than my friends who had parents buy them a car. But today... I am a better person for it. I appreciate things more b/c I know the value of earning it myself. That same little boy learned that same lesson. My car I bought at 16, decades ago is not worth what I paid for it then. Thats just life.

Exactly that's life. This is a game.( a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators.) And changing up the rules in the middle of a game is not the best thing to do. DQ'n your way to the mount now would be a waste of time. As for the rest it has no relevance.

So step off your high horse Brat its unsightly.

My soap box is in the same city square yours is, its just a different kind of soap.

Today its plum.

Whew....a sigh of relief. I've worked hard for over a month doing DQ's. And now I can stop and take the easy way out. And get the mount I wanted for my cleric. Either with my coin or some Gold. Heck I could have bought the mount with all the DQ's I've given to NPC's during the quests. But a feeling of sadness is with me. What I was working so hard to get is now so easily attainable. The image I had of my cleric being on the hard to achieve Silvermane is tarnished. Eh..what can I do.

So after all your complaining and justification instead of finishing the quest so you can feel that sense of pride you are going to just buy it? What was your argument agaiN?

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I've played games before where rare items became more common later in their life cycle. The thing is, I cherish the experience I had in getting these items over the item itself. I know it's not always about that for everyone, and by no means am I asking anyone to agree with me. The thing is, my enjoyment of MMOs comes from two things:

a) the challenges that are presented to me that I overcome
b) the friends who I collaborate with to overcome said challenges

So yeah, it sucks when I see every one with something that previously was very rare, but that doesn't devalue my experience and the memories I have working with friends to achieve my goal.


We understand player concerns, and we really do our best to voice them to our developers. The process is definitely not easy, but as long as people don't flame and keep telling us their personal feelings in regards to content changes we will get the message loud and clear. We appreciate your feedback, I know that sounds like a canned response but we're serious, I didn't become a forum admin because I'm a robot, I actually like this stuff!

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Well as much as i couldn't give a fig about any mount and their price dropping,no one got their wish,people want prices down on the items you use everyday from boutique,consumables,not a rubbishy mount.

metorica wrote: »

Does that also mean Warsoul fragments will be sold in the Boutique also for that same reason?

eatwithspoons wrote: »

That's called jumping to conclusions. Also, if you have no constructive criticism why post?