New prices on mounts

Aerilya - Sanctuary

BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I swear, some ppl find anything to complain about. You can buy them in game cheaper than the cat shop, Or could! Whats the problem?

It would be the same thing if someone bought 20 gold and sold it in game and bought the horse from you. They might not work in game, but I guarantee you most ppl work their backsides off for the real money they spend that keeps this game afloat. Quit complaining.

He is right. I hardly make anything, yet I enjoy this game enough to support it by spending money to get some gold. Seriously, buying 20g is literally a tithe of a paycheck for me. I just don't get the complaining all the time.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

OK get this:

Everyone wanted genies: PW did that.

Everyone wanted more clothing: Pw did that.

Everyone wanted more mounts: PW did that.

Everyone wanted charm packs: PW did that.

Everyone wanted dragon orb sales: PW did that.

Everyone wanted cheaper prices on stuff: PW did that.

Everyone wanted new aerogears: PW did that.

Everyone wanted a new instance: PW did that.

Miasora - Lost City

btw, before this thread close too, let me say something...

yeah it sucks!

i created many characters just to collect dq items... to collect dragon orders... just because i wanna get that silver mane, but now...

ALL OF THOSE DRAGON QUEST IS USELESS !!!

it's just a waste of time and effort

i see no more point in collecting them now... since ppl can almost "buy" everything... maybe even hh mats, exp cube or molds as next ~

and even i'll got that silver mane, it won't be cool anymore if every of us can have it from boutique... not rare anymore

so, where's the perfect world?

it's all long gone... it's not a RPG game anymore, where players works to get the reward... but it's an eBay now, where it's all about money ~

i think, i'll just delete all of my alt characters and stop collecting dq items... it's not worth collecting, and the price will surely also drops on catshop

and what about those dragon orders for... i spent many coins to buy some of them on catshop and auctioneer, but now... such a waste ~

b:cry

ps: i wonder, if pwi gonna removed the whole Dragon Quest on the next patch and put all rewards into boutique for cash to sponsor that new game . . .

edit:

ps: they better fix those glitches and "refine" the game... instead ruining it theirself ~

FoxRunning - Heavens Tear

why is everyone always so cruel here? instead of being happy that things are good for others who have not had the good fortune and gaming skills you have, it has to be meaness and snarling? if people are leaving the game, i strongly believe that to be the real reason. people should be happy and helpful, not KSing and PKing everyone. the cruel people forget the whole reason for the game: for the races to band together, work together, to defeat the wraiths. not to fight each other. and any equipment, mounts and such that can aid us in this are things to be welcomed, and good fortune of others.

if i were as good a player as you, i would use some of my time and money to help folks to become as good a player as you....anger does nothing constructive, only helps to tear down the game we love.

KeeleyRin - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well many of us worked our asses off for your/our dream come true. Many of us that would have rather paid 20G.....we didnt have that option...Now all our hard work is worth 2m.....total bull ****. Must be nice to have everything handed to you. Also dont tell me about....PWI needs GOLD to stay afloat because I know I have spent plenty. Infact I was more than happy knowing PWI used zen to keep their game running. But to undermine someones time and effort put into their horse was shady.

BratFury - Heavens Tear

Miasora - Lost City wrote: »

btw, before this thread close too, let me say something...

yeah it sucks!

i created many characters just to collect dq items... to collect dragon orders... just because i wanna get that silver mane, but now...

ALL OF THOSE DRAGON QUEST IS USELESS !!!

it's just a waste of time and effort

i see no more point in collecting them now... since ppl can almost "buy" everything... maybe even hh mats, exp cube or molds as next ~

and even i'll got that silver mane, it won't be cool anymore if every of us can have it from boutique... not rare anymore

so, where's the perfect world?

it's all long gone... it's not a RPG game anymore, where players works to get the reward... but it's an eBay now, where it's all about money ~

i think, i'll just delete all of my alt characters and stop collecting dq items... it's not worth collecting, and the price will surely also drops on catshop

and what about those dragon orders for... such a waste ~

b:cry

ps: i wonder, if pwi gonna removed the whole Dragon Quest on the next patch and put all rewards into boutique for cash to sponsor that new game . . .

how are they useless? You can still turn them in for a horse? Honestly what is your problem. Matter of fact now they will be cheaper for you to buy to finish off the quest.

Viper_girl - Heavens Tear

I think the point that is getting lost is that nothing in this game appears to have any stability anymore. Obviously this is not going to change so we either adapt or leave.

When I first started playing I believed there was some structure and stability to the rewards and values on items in game. This no longer seems to be the case. There is therefore little point saving up for something long term or working towards a long term goal unless you enjoy the journey and would not mind a bit if your goal or wealth was taken away from you in a flash.

Of course the idealists will say well you should enjoy the journey with no regard for the goal and that the in-game wealth is all pixels anyway. In practice most players aren't that perfect and having a goal snatched away from them or significantly devalued does sting.

vampirevane

Viper_girl - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I think the point that is getting lost is that nothing in this game appears to have any stability anymore. Obviously this is not going to change so we either adapt or leave.

When I first started playing I believed there was some structure and stability to the rewards and values on items in game. This no longer seems to be the case. There is therefore little point saving up for something long term or working towards a long term goal unless you enjoy the journey and would not mind a bit if your goal or wealth was taken away from you in a flash.

Of course the idealists will say well you should enjoy the journey with no regard for the goal and that the in-game wealth is all pixels anyway. In practice most players aren't that perfect and having a goal snatched away from them or significantly devalued does sting.

EXACTLY!! can't be put in better words. No Goal/ No RPG feeling.

Mephistic - Dreamweaver

For all those people who earned their Violet Lightenings and SwiftWinds through the DQ system, your efforts were not wasted... you got your mount!! Also you will always have that moment of satisfaction when you turned in those Orders and got the egg!! (In my opinion that is priceless). Don't let this turn you sour and forget that moment of happiness! ^^

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Miasora - Lost City wrote: »

and even i'll got that silver mane, it won't be cool anymore if every of us can have it from boutique... not rare anymore

so, where's the perfect world?

its Perfect World, not Perfect Epeen

BratFury - Heavens Tear

Mephistic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

For all those people who earned theor Violet Lightenings and Swift Winds through the DQ system, your efforts were not wasted... you got your mount!! Also you will always have that moment of satisfaction when you turned in those Orders and got the egg!! (In my opinion that is priceless). Don't let this turn you sour and forget that moment of happiness! ^^

Nicely put, 10 gold stars for you.

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear

KeeleyRin - Sanctuary wrote: »

BratFury, that was a horse one could only get through hard work.....now they can get it threw a push of a button. Now what was thought of as precious, will now become an over populated piece of junk. It sounds to me, you refuse to understand this, because you were not willling to put the effort into the horse. Those of us that were willing to put the effort into it just got screwed.

No,most just bought the orders off others to get the horse/bought off someone else.

Just because it cost a lot more before patch didn't mean you worked your **** off more for that money,seriously that money can be gained after a couple of tw's,world bosses lol

If the horse was non tradeable,the orders non tradeable,then that would be truly working your **** off for it.

Oh,i gained enough for one in ONE fb89,demon belt and pearl drop,yeah...

xkementaryx

Oh sure.. i will get 16 mil very fast again... sure sure...


Is about the social value also... who had that mounts had a valuable thing that few ppl have... this is about rpg should work. But now it's a comercial thing that gives everything for everyone for a price.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

rofl 20g =D

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear

xkementaryx wrote: »

Oh sure.. i will get 16 mil very fast again... sure sure...


Is about the social value also... who had that mounts had a valuable thing that few ppl have... this is about rpg should work. But now it's a comercial thing that gives everything for everyone for a price.

It was always commercial lol,those things were merched by the players just like any other item with value.

xkementaryx

At least the money was going to other player inside game helping the player. Now it is going to the company.

BratFury - Heavens Tear

xkementaryx wrote: »

Oh sure.. i will get 16 mil very fast again... sure sure...


Is about the social value also... who had that mounts had a valuable thing that few ppl have... this is about rpg should work. But now it's a comercial thing that gives everything for everyone for a price.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you bought the mount so you'd have it. Do you not still have the mount? If so then you have your 16 million you spent. The only way you'd lose money on the deal is to sell it. But that generally isn't why most people buy it. Now if you spent 16 mil on the mount which you say you did, then you bought the mount so you would have it to use. Otherwise, you would have just used all your time in acquiring the dragon orders to get said mounts. If that was the case and you did not want the horse you would have sold them upon earning them well before today.

again.. what was the problem?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

xkementaryx wrote: »

At least the money was going to other player inside game helping the player. Now it is going to the company.

Good >_> means they wont go bankrupt ...at least atm.

xkementaryx

Ok.. so tell me... Why some ppl prefer have a Panda beside a Rex? Because it give status. And liking you or not, status is the soul of the rpg games. It measn a lot and when you lose your status because someone just tooked it from you, a company i mean, well, it breaks all.

BratFury - Heavens Tear

xkementaryx wrote: »

Ok.. so tell me... Why some ppl prefer have a Panda beside a Rex? Because it give status. And liking you or not, status is the soul of the rpg games. It measn a lot and when you lose your status because someone just tooked it from you, a company i mean, well, it breaks all.

They took nothing from you. PERIOD! Your status in any MMORPG comes from lvl and skill, not a glowing horse with a flowing mane that no one hardly sees you ride.

xkementaryx

aham... I can see that we don't have a very experienced player off rpg here...

KeeleyRin - Sanctuary

But im sure your gonna go spend your measly 20g on it right BratFury. You like getting things handed easy to ya.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

xkementaryx wrote: »

Ok.. so tell me... Why some ppl prefer have a Panda beside a Rex? Because it give status. And liking you or not, status is the soul of the rpg games. It measn a lot and when you lose your status because someone just tooked it from you, a company i mean, well, it breaks all.

"My father would beat me if he found out I was QQing over a virtual pony." -Neurosis

KeeleyRin - Sanctuary

It hasnt been up for 30 mins and its already overflooded with Silvermanes, something that use to be special. Well not anymore.

xkementaryx

I will fell ashamed using mine...

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear

xkementaryx wrote: »

Ok.. so tell me... Why some ppl prefer have a Panda beside a Rex? Because it give status. And liking you or not, status is the soul of the rpg games. It measn a lot and when you lose your status because someone just tooked it from you, a company i mean, well, it breaks all.

It was a buyable item before,just went down in value,it had no status value in my mind...the top rank gear,now that to me is status(if theres even such a thing as true status on a game)

BratFury - Heavens Tear

xkementaryx wrote: »

aham... I can see that we don't have a very experienced player off rpg here...

"rolls eyes" thats all you get for that comment.

KeeleyRin - Sanctuary wrote: »

But im sure your gonna go spend your measly 20g on it right BratFury. You like getting things handed easy to ya.

No Keely I'm not. I have a dual spurred panther on ALL 4 of my characters. They are cheap, and go just as fast as anything else in the game. I value my money. Could care less what I'm riding on, it gets me there just as fast.

You can keep your attitude, I really don't want it. But some free advice for you, don't sweat the small stuff, it only makes you stink.

asgreborn

I think that all this flaming and QQing could be easily stopped by the mods with a few answers to all our questions.

Maybe they want to turn PW from a free to play game into a pay to play game.

When I joined molds were selling for decent prices, 300k+ , TT mats were selling for decent prices 100k+ starting with TT60 mats. Now everything dropped. You can just buy zen for 10$ (beer money) and make your TT armor. While people that don't pay spend hours, days in TT's to make that money/armor.

I think all in all it's the ppl's that don't pay fault. PPl that spend money stick together and raise gold prices while free players look for fast profit and sell cheaper and cheaper.

About the DQ mounts. I think a mount it's rare as long as there is only a number of them in the game. Let's say PW considers that limit to be 1000. When there are 1001 mounts in game it's not rare anymore.

Here you have to options. Change the mount reword for DQ and leave the number to 1000 or put it in cash shop cuz there already are over 1000 in game and not considered a rare mount anymore. Both this solutions would need to add new mounts as DQ rewards although the second one is not really fair to the hard DQ'ers in the game.

I am urging the mods to give an explanation for this sale to stop all the flaming and QQ'ing. FOrums are a mess right now.

BratFury - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

"My father would beat me if he found out I was QQing over a virtual pony." -Neurosis

^^This^^b:chuckle

Terraa - Lost City

xkementaryx wrote: »

Ok.. so tell me... Why some ppl prefer have a Panda beside a Rex? Because it give status. And liking you or not, status is the soul of the rpg games. It measn a lot and when you lose your status because someone just tooked it from you, a company i mean, well, it breaks all.

People prefer a panda over a rex? With what study are you quoting from?

Status is the soul of RPG games? I want proof. I submit to you this: I don't give a damn what status I have. I'm playing this game because I like the PVP system and because gearing up takes more than one day for a full set of relevant level gear. Status? I'm not worried what you care about me. I'll get a job to get my "status" fix, thanks.

Now you're making the assumption that, if I did hold status because of an item, the item becoming less rare will strip that away from me. I've already covered that: it's happened to me time and time again, and letting someone else have some glory is what the soul of RPGs is for me.

A company you mean well breaks it all? I can see your playering off rpg here is far beyond my capability, because I can't understand you for the life of me. Are you trying to be a prick, or just pretending? Because deciphering this bs would take years.

AiriJen - Heavens Tear

I think im going to still try the DQ quest for it , this way the mount will still and the hard work meaning , this is if i don't get up to 3.5 mil in game firstand if i don't make it to some place thast is still selling ultimate gaming cards