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  • HolyInferno - Sanctuary
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary Posts: 767 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Isn't regi's color green? Or am I just color blind b:question
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  • tenj#7625
    tenj#7625 Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Isn't regi's color green? Or am I just color blind b:question

    Looks pretty green to me, what are you talking about?
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    You're definitely color blind Holy. b:bye
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  • Emerald_Lady - Sanctuary
    Emerald_Lady - Sanctuary Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Isn't regi's color green? Or am I just color blind b:question

    Yep same color as Dreaming was when they was on Map. Must be the next choice of color when a new Faction wins a piece of land from either Nefarious or Legendary.
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Wow, Regicide, Legendary and Recluse attacking Nef within 3 minutes of each other. We might see another color change this week.b:victory
  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wow, Regicide, Legendary and Recluse attacking Nef within 3 minutes of each other. We might see another color change this week.b:victory

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  • XAsch - Sanctuary
    XAsch - Sanctuary Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wow, Regicide, Legendary and Recluse attacking Nef within 3 minutes of each other.

    Copy / Paste ftw?
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Some very impressive strategic thinking and quick adaptation on Nef's part. They basically ceded territory to Legendary in order to win against Regicide and Recluse.

    2 minutes into the battle, Recluse had streamrolled Nef defenders and was inside their camp. Had they been able to cocoon there and have catas catch up, it would've been over in 5 minutes. Nef withdrew their battle with Legendary and poured ppl into battle with Recluse. They turned the table and won in just 25 minutes, then focused on Regicide and defeated them too. Losing to Recluse, especially being steamrolled in 5 minutes, would've been devastating for Nef moral. As we all know, Nef members aren't loyal. This is especially true for their newer recruits, some of whom can be best described as "miscellaneous scum," who would betray them at the earliest convenience. Losing to Leg is acceptable, losing to Recluse or Regicide is unacceptable.

    Nef lost to Leg quickly this week, but only because they ceded. They had a bad time slot, but managed to come through losing only one land. It was as good an outcome for them as can be reasonably expected.b:victory
  • MiniST - Sanctuary
    MiniST - Sanctuary Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Don't think there was much strategy on nef's part. From what I saw and heard, nef was trying to keep all territories. Legendary steam rolling nefarious was definitely not in nefarious's plans. Because of that, I heard that there was pure chaos in regicide's TW and that nef's crystal was down to 20%.
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    MiniST - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Don't think there was much strategy on nef's part. From what I saw and heard, nef was trying to keep all territories. Legendary steam rolling nefarious was definitely not in nefarious's plans. Because of that, I heard that there was pure chaos in regicide's TW and that nef's crystal was down to 20%.

    Ah, that guy I heard it from must've duped me.b:embarrass

    Well, can only be in one tw.b:sweat
  • Risingdragon - Sanctuary
    Risingdragon - Sanctuary Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    b:surrender
    well nothing more i can said here. me and my 4 mans squad do our best to defend our base till i call in reinfoecement @ recluse;s TW

    good job to whoever in my squad last night b:victory
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    That was an interesting battle. We had Nef's crystal down to 40% until Legendary won. Reinforcements poured in, but we kept pushing hard and got the crystal down to 20% 30 minutes later. Then when Recluse lost, Nef went into a full turtle pretty much till their crystal regenerated back to 40%. Good fight all.
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  • Jack_Nel - Sanctuary
    Jack_Nel - Sanctuary Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Risingdragon - Sanctuary wrote: »
    b:surrender
    well nothing more i can said here. me and my 4 mans squad do our best to defend our base till i call in reinfoecement @ recluse;s TW

    good job to whoever in my squad last night b:victory

    Stalked b:bye
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  • Risingdragon - Sanctuary
    Risingdragon - Sanctuary Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    b:shockedb:shocked
    stalker
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  • Venomeow - Sanctuary
    Venomeow - Sanctuary Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Risingdragon - Sanctuary wrote: »
    b:shockedb:shocked
    stalker

    Stalked again. b:chuckle

    And imo, this week was more interesting than 3 minute steamrolls. Lose land, okay, only gives us motivation to reflect and improve. ^.~
  • Strife_son - Sanctuary
    Strife_son - Sanctuary Posts: 1,217 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Well done Regicide and Recluse.

    Ebs_son, _juliet, Dannyboi *thumbs up*

    Grats to Nef as well, still tough as nails >_>
  • masuku
    masuku Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Just confirms that neither faction can hold off the other when supported by the server, though that Nef only lost the 1 land to the 2 that Leg lost in the same situation last week indicates some remaining difference in power. Not sure why Nef stopped attacking cities; if it wanted, it could go for the kill by taking Dream/Archo with Outlaw and an Emi or Lion (someone who can field 70 or 80) attacking alongside. If the two smaller factions turtled to stop a fast kill, they would force Leg to spread itself too thin again and lose another city, or more likely retreat for a 3h defense against Nef and leave only its reserve forces on the other 2 lands, which could then be taken. Either way, Leg takes a big hit, and even with the win this weekend still has lost a lot of ground to Nef in funding; if Nef could manage Archo, Leg probably dies without the funding and super meds. Bad strategy shift by Big Red I think, and other factions best bet at taking land is for the weaker of the two mega factions to be forced to put everything on the other; Leg hasn’t shown in weeks it can handle multiple real defenses as well as Nef, dunno why change things now.
  • Byno - Sanctuary
    Byno - Sanctuary Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I wouldn't say losing a city would be enough to kill either faction. Both have plenty of members who are there for loyalty and not for money. Also, there are more reasons to pick a land than just the money it gives.
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  • riddiculus
    riddiculus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Just confirms that neither faction can hold off the other when supported by the server, though that Nef only lost the 1 land to the 2 that Leg lost in the same situation last week indicates some remaining difference in power. Not sure why Nef stopped attacking cities; if it wanted, it could go for the kill by taking Dream/Archo with Outlaw and an Emi or Lion (someone who can field 70 or 80) attacking alongside. If the two smaller factions turtled to stop a fast kill, they would force Leg to spread itself too thin again and lose another city, or more likely retreat for a 3h defense against Nef and leave only its reserve forces on the other 2 lands, which could then be taken. Either way, Leg takes a big hit, and even with the win this weekend still has lost a lot of ground to Nef in funding; if Nef could manage Archo, Leg probably dies without the funding and super meds. Bad strategy shift by Big Red I think, and other factions best bet at taking land is for the weaker of the two mega factions to be forced to put everything on the other; Leg hasn’t shown in weeks it can handle multiple real defenses as well as Nef, dunno why change things now.

    Doesnt this apply to Nef as well? IF Legendary gets the same timeslot as other higher ups faction like Regicide n Recluse everyweek, they too could lose land to leg or the other 2 factions. I dont think both dominant factions could hold up spreading their forces out like this week or last week.. I think the decisive factor lies not in the Nef or Legendary but in the third and 4th faction that hit em
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Byno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I wouldn't say losing a city would be enough to kill either faction. Both have plenty of members who are there for loyalty and not for money. Also, there are more reasons to pick a land than just the money it gives.

    Yes like the free tele b:dirty
  • masuku
    masuku Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    riddiculus wrote: »
    Doesnt this apply to Nef as well? IF Legendary gets the same timeslot as other higher ups faction like Regicide n Recluse everyweek, they too could lose land to leg or the other 2 factions. I dont think both dominant factions could hold up spreading their forces out like this week or last week.. I think the decisive factor lies not in the Nef or Legendary but in the third and 4th faction that hit em

    To an extent, but Nef has shown it can hold 2 out of 3 lands, Leg got 2 lands rolled including the city when it took the same attack, including with Reg as the 2nd power, and Recluse is arguably stronger than I think it was Lionsoul on Leg last week. Leg has shown it isn't as good as Nef at holding multiple lands under the exact same circumstances, it's how we got the green back on the map in the first place. Nef can force their hand by going for the cities again, which makes it likely that either they implode when losing cities or other factions get on map while Leg holds with all forces against Nef.
  • Byno - Sanctuary
    Byno - Sanctuary Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    masuku wrote: »
    To an extent, but Nef has shown it can hold 2 out of 3 lands, Leg got 2 lands rolled including the city when it took the same attack, including with Reg as the 2nd power, and Recluse is arguably stronger than I think it was Lionsoul on Leg last week. Leg has shown it isn't as good as Nef at holding multiple lands under the exact same circumstances, it's how we got the green back on the map in the first place. Nef can force their hand by going for the cities again, which makes it likely that either they implode when losing cities or other factions get on map while Leg holds with all forces against Nef.

    Nef barely fended off Rec and Reg from what I've heard; they had their squads spread strangely and had to move people over to Rec, and Reg was almost able to take them out. In fact, if Rec had held out longer, there's a good chance Reg could have gotten a last assualt inside of the base for that last 20%. Really, if Leg prolonged their attack in the first place, Reg also probably would have won (but no one was expecting a 9 minute win over them).
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  • RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary
    RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary Posts: 593 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Byno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Nef barely fended off Rec and Reg from what I've heard; they had their squads spread strangely and had to move people over to Rec, and Reg was almost able to take them out. In fact, if Rec had held out longer, there's a good chance Reg could have gotten a last assualt inside of the base for that last 20%. Really, if Leg prolonged their attack in the first place, Reg also probably would have won (but no one was expecting a 9 minute win over them).

    Quoted as truth. ^^
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  • HolyInferno - Sanctuary
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary Posts: 767 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Byno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Nef barely fended off Rec and Reg from what I've heard; they had their squads spread strangely and had to move people over to Rec, and Reg was almost able to take them out. In fact, if Rec had held out longer, there's a good chance Reg could have gotten a last assualt inside of the base for that last 20%. Really, if Leg prolonged their attack in the first place, Reg also probably would have won (but no one was expecting a 9 minute win over them).

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  • masuku
    masuku Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Like said, it's been shown both factions will lose land when ganged by a legitimate alliance. But, even if Nef almost lost more land, they didn't; exact same scenario, just with Nef as the ones using Reg, Leg got rolled even worse and opened the door to another faction. Leg hasn't solo killed Nef's crystal since whatever crisis it through last month, Nef has gotten theirs multiple times. So until proven otherwise, Leg is the most reliable bet for other factions to get on the map, and actually make the server interesting again.
  • Byno - Sanctuary
    Byno - Sanctuary Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    masuku wrote: »
    Like said, it's been shown both factions will lose land when ganged by a legitimate alliance. But, even if Nef almost lost more land, they didn't; exact same scenario, just with Nef as the ones using Reg, Leg got rolled even worse and opened the door to another faction. Leg hasn't solo killed Nef's crystal since whatever crisis it through last month, Nef has gotten theirs multiple times. So until proven otherwise, Leg is the most reliable bet for other factions to get on the map, and actually make the server interesting again.

    Nef's recent losses mean another turn in of events in the power struggle between the two factions. 'Nef won a lot before' has turned into 'Nef lost now'. The dynamics are changing.
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    riddiculus wrote: »
    Doesnt this apply to Nef as well? IF Legendary gets the same timeslot as other higher ups faction like Regicide n Recluse everyweek, they too could lose land to leg or the other 2 factions. I dont think both dominant factions could hold up spreading their forces out like this week or last week.. I think the decisive factor lies not in the Nef or Legendary but in the third and 4th faction that hit em

    Well I could only hope for the best interest in many of the server that the only deciding factors aren't Nef or Leg otherwise that would mean only 2 viable factions on the server Lol. So that's about 400 people... Of all the people on Sanctuary, I think the same 200 fighting the same 200 every week would get stale. b:bye
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    If we keep this up for a few weeks Nef should weaken, they've shown an inability to take on all three at once. Unless they change what they're massively they'll slowly lose territories week by week. Thats a pretty bad blow for morale. 1vs1 against nef might be hard for us but together we're strong.
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  • Venomeow - Sanctuary
    Venomeow - Sanctuary Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well I could only hope for the best interest in many of the server that the only deciding factors aren't Nef or Leg otherwise that would mean only 2 viable factions on the server Lol. So that's about 400 people... Of all the people on Sanctuary, I think the same 200 fighting the same 200 every week would get stale. b:bye

    More like 80 vs 80, first one to 'get stale' loses.
  • masuku
    masuku Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Byno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Nef's recent losses mean another turn in of events in the power struggle between the two factions. 'Nef won a lot before' has turned into 'Nef lost now'. The dynamics are changing.

    The only dynamic that changed was that Reg attacked with Leg instead of Nef, and that now it's Leg taunting in WC and forums instead of Nef. Nef lost one territory facing Reg and Leg, Leg lost two territories facing Nef and Reg; that they were the exact same set-ups shows that Nef is still the stronger faction between the two, regardless of spin. Leg has not proven in over a month it can beat Nef in any battle 1v1, Nef has. Essentially, both factions are at the mercy of the third power, which at this point is Reg. It's just a question of how Reg, and the rest of the server, wishes to use this position; Outlaw getting back in the game would also make a difference. Both factions will lose land if ganged by two more good factions alongside the other power, main thing is to make sure that both are killed at the same time and aren't just trading lands to each other.

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