FB tabbers dont deserve drops

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I only brought that up because you were preaching, and calling people selfish and self-righteous, I was just pointed out that people were not running FBs out of the goodness of your heart either (you included, as you said on your reply). You know, the all thing "those with glass roofs should not be throwing stones" or "let the one without sin cast the first stone".

It is quite simple. As long as everyone agreed to how the drops are going to be split, there is no right or wrong way. Some parties give ALL the drops to tabber, others only molds and 3*, yet others split everything. As long as everyone agreed, what is the big deal how things get split???

Ultimaly the tabber will pick the party he wants, so this all thread is really an exercise in futility.

Ok i agree with that. if the tabber does want to split drops or give drops whatever it's their choice. What I'm arguing against are the people who think that all tabbers should be forced to either split or give their drops (like the OP and teartroll). They can call me an ******* or whatever but in the end they're just trying to cover up the fact that they're asking for even more than they're getting already for helping out. Obviously it's fine to ask for less, but when you ask for the other person to give even more for your help that's being selfish.

Teartroll - Sanctuary wrote: »

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There are three types of FB squads.

The Elitist
The Elititst will do the FB and snag all the drops they can, for themselves. They are usually well over the FB level and have made many passes at it, in their time. They leave the newer players with a sense of awe and wonder over the how they were lucky enough to get such high level characters to help them, with the FBs. In most circumstances, their levels keep the mobs and bosses from dropping anything, but coins. On those rare occasions when something worthwhile does drop, it is attacked swiftly, and without warning, feeling justified by their levels to get anything of value. When the FB is over, they pat the tabber on the head and further impress the tabbers good fortunes, before vanishing forever.

The Needy
The Needy will do the FB, for the sole purpose of getting the Exp, SP, and Rep. They can negotiate the drops, but they are most likely going to the tabber. The impress upon the tabber that the tabber is the one that has to power, in such runs. However, they are usually such high level that there are no drops, leaving the tabber disillusioned about their fate, at higher levels. When the boss is killed, and the FB completed, they thank the tabber before scurrying away, before the tabber realizes they just got screwed outta drops due to levels.

The Generous
The Generous will do the FB, for the sole purpose of giving the drops to the tabber. Usually, they are just over the FB level, leaving the bosses a chance to drop. Sometimes, they will load the party with low level characters, to guarantee drops. On the occasions that they are unsuccessful at getting drops, they will rerun the FB, untabbed, to force the boss to drop more than coins. When the boss is dead, and they are leaving the instance, they will try to leave as fast as possible, to get away from temptation and make their repairs in private, never letting the tabber know what sacrifice they had to make.

Not too many people realize that they fall between the top two types. Somewhere, deep down, they wish it was them getting the sexy mold. They wish they had been a little more greedy, in terms of drops. It's ok. Just don't let it go to your head with you're level 90, trying to bully your way through an FB19. You'll end up with egg on your face when that person turns out to have a level 100 main. And they want to PK you.

AndromedaB - Sanctuary wrote: »

considering how 99% of squads for fbs are random loot and not free, the same would apply to all2tabber which means this is a $hitty and useless argument

Umm yeah but the odds of a tabber on a "all tabs go to tabber" rule fb, would dramatically increase as opposed to "free for all!!!woot" rule.

ahh but im not aware it takes a squad to win lotteries, does it? for ex if you want to persue the lottery example, its closer to a group of people making a group, just because you paid the most out of the group dosnt mean you get the car, it goes to whoever wins it or somone who can use it with prefrence to the person who paid most then leaders/helpers unless you want to sell it and share profitz, coins/others are in enough abundance that its already split equally

Yeah but tabber is the only one with the ticket :S the rest just tag along for the consolation prizes of exp rep sp.

And if it's on the finders keeper rule whoever needs it more doesn't necessarily gets it. Refer my previous post if the tabber needs the mold would he/she/it be guaranteed to get the mold? No, right? And if it's higher levels helping the tabber with fb then it's most likely outdated for them.

The last I checked, it's easier for higher levels to grind/tt for money than lower levels so in this vein wouldn't the tabber need it more? As for who paid more...how do you determine that? The cleric who burns more mp charm? The tanker with repair damage? So when you go grinding with a group do you demand more drops cos you burn more mp charm?

you know before when we ran fbs, we said gratz u got the mold instead of OMFG GIME THE FRACKIGN MOLD, and nobody complained that they didnt get mold, and nobody would ask to have a mold for free in the fb unless maybe if they could use it

Yes and if they could use it under that rule they might have to watch as someone else higher level than them gets to keep it and sell for money. That's not very nice for the tabber.

lol first of all you dont use herbs for wine lol. secondly even with wines and w/o higer lvs to help you you would be stuck there for hours as well as probably having a few deaths, and wine is only 200k ish if you make it and most ppl farm it while they grind anyways.

My bad my bad, meant to say that wines are made with mats although the logical conclusion would be herbs BUT I know from personal experience that if you wine the fb you won't take hours, provided you get a proper squad with good tanker, good cleric(s) good veno and good DDs. Even if they're all around the level of fb it can still be done if everyone knows their job. Same thing about deaths.

True enough having higher levels hastens the process, but it's not without gain. If it's a thankless/rewardless job what's all those fb rooms for?


This rule creates drama, cos there's always gonna be arguments about who needs it more, and I can see some "I need it but you won't give it to me instead you sell it for money you greedy wah wah" arguments. Tabber keep drops keeps it simple, that's my opinion you can agree or disagree

I know I'm extremely late to the party, and, my opinion will be discarded 'cause I'm quite a low level, but-- those of you saying that the dropped molds can be used on alts and such...

Why take something from them to help your alt, when most likely they don't even have the advantage of having a higher char to help their lower one out? The "greedy noobs" are still trying to get started and get a foothold in PWI, and you're gonna take something from them to help an alt when you already have established yourself? I don't see high levels riding beginner's aerogear, and most of them have some kind of fashion. If you were so in need of money or money to buy something-- sell the stuff you don't need. Beginners don't even have that option.

Lower yourselves down to their level for a change, and try to remember what it was like trying to establish yourself in the game. Have a little charity for once and help others.

Aisubeki - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lol @ how you all insult him for posting his opinions, if anything you all should be ashamed for insulting someone for voicing it. Censorship is illegal FYI. (Unless it is slanderous or libeling material)

His point is: Everyone deserves a chance at it, not just some kid who uses a tab.

FYI @ The genius who said hes afraid to use his real character and is on an anon alt...
dont jump to conclusions, assuming makes an **** out of U and ME. His account is forum banned temporarily for posting a link to meatspin.com lol...

And it's my opinion that both of your opinions are moronic and it's also my opinion that you both are idiots. How's that sound to you? Remember, you shouldn't be hateful to me because I'm just expressing my opinion. b:laugh

Their account was banned for breaking the rules in the forum? Hmm, thank you for providing proof that they're an idiot. And the fact the you, while trying to defend them, provided this evidence; gives further proof of your own mental inefficiencies.

If the amount of XP/Spirit/Rep is not enough of a reward for you during a FB run then by all means, please, go elsewhere and grind. Leave the FBs for the rest of us that would rather spend far less time to get the same rewards on a quick FB run then an hour of grinding.

AndromedaB - Sanctuary wrote: »

contribute to the topic at hand or leave. srsly

sounds pretty sturdy however, fbs does include 71 89 etc
PS: im not a "greedy" person i get all my money from trading/grinding/rb/TW pay could use more but not guna steal a mold i cant use, wont give you a mold you cant use either. most of the molds i got that i could not use (and nobody else could) were given away to friends. i often help ppl kill bosses or biuld a squad for fb/tt/bosses/rb aswell as help with biulds/stats etc

280gold ftw (waiting for sale lulz)

>.<' Forgot about the higher level ones. For those, depends on how much the tabber contributes... I'm more thinking of the lower ones, sorry. b:sweat

*Edit: Plus, I have no experience whatsoever in the higher level ones, so, yeah. In fact, I don't really know what whining something is other than it makes it a /lot/ easier. And it costs lots of money. >.<'

But I did get drops on my last FB and I was willing to give them up if my squad wanted them...

**Edit: The people that say 'gimme' and don't say thank you to the squad deserve no drops, IMO, though. I say thank you five or six times during my FBs/whenever people go outta their way to help/whenever a Cleric buffs or revives/ect. I don't understand people that don't at least say thanks for stuff like that.

***Again: Can't wait 'till I'm higher level on my Cleric so I can refuse the rude ones that demand a rez. Or rez them and let them get killed again. ^^ Will max my revive just to be able to be 'Maxed rev but none for you!'

AndromedaB - Sanctuary wrote: »

contribute to the topic at hand or leave. srsly

You don't control this board don't forget.

I am I am saying if it was me I would give it to the tabber why becasue I know I will get a better one later.I can redo that with my guild anytime I want.I would like to welcoe new people to this game instead of making them fustrated as adverstised tabber get drops and you all go for their drops.This isn't the only MMO online don't forget.

I will say this if high lvls stopped helping or starting stealing low lvl drops.They would form their own squads sure it might be more longer a little harder but atleast they will get their fare share of the drops.I never once got mold except through the my guild that helped me.I might not have noticed the earlier ones maybe those high lvls took mine.I am not whinning about it only one gold mold to date.

It is like I said they can form thier own squads leaving high lvls to grind,grind,grind and more grind.That is what would happen in your perfect world.I can see low lvls doing fine untill they catch up to you.I actually try to help out in my FBs becasue I don't like to leach on to others.It comes from another game I play as we don't like leachers.Then there is the loss of exp for high lvls to bad.

When a squad says tabber gets mold and you don't like it leave and go grind some more.It is either take it or lumb it.

Clerics can also charge for their buffs.How would you like that or res?

Btw...has the op said anything after the first page? i tried to read through this whole darn thing but it's sooo long x.x

Ah, Godwin's. Not a bad score though 20+ pages of troll food. Nice job, mickey.

stfu all of you.
We already know majority rules in favor of giving drops to tabber.

That all FB drops get mailed to me plz

Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That all FB drops get mailed to me plz

if you get anything in mail you dont need pass it to me b:surrender