Cleric vs. Wizards
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well, I party some ppl I've met while questing.
But the problem I ran into untill now was getting half the xp/sp with about 1.5 kill rate. That doesn't makes me happy at all, so I prefer solo (I'm in big sht with SP and I can't afford not maxing my gain in my limited time on-line). No one I squaded recently could PvE at the same pace as me, specially when buffed ( didn't squad with veno though, but tried with same lvl BM and Archers). I always got time to hit once my coleague's mob after finishing mine, although we usually start attk mobs at the same time...
Probably was just my bad luck running into some sub-par players, but hey...sht happens____________
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Mikel_oru - Sanctuary wrote: »For quests a Cleric/Cleric, Cleric/Wizard or Wizard/Wizard is nice but when you are after exp, nothing beats Cleric/BM.
And well the first set of parties is pointless, after 60 you rarely find people that wanna party even if we do same quests, everyone is after drops and they don't care about speed/fun/effectiveness, gets boring when players start beeing like MMO robots just looking for money.
Dunno about your situation. But party grind\zhen\fishing parties\justice smashing.... Grab 5 other people and go squad killing. Its an every day thing...0 -
Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »well, I party some ppl I've met while questing.
But the problem I ran into untill now was getting half the xp/sp with about 1.5 kill rate. That doesn't makes me happy at all, so I prefer solo (I'm in big sht with SP and I can't afford not maxing my gain in my limited time on-line). No one I squaded recently could PvE at the same pace as me, specially when buffed ( didn't squad with veno though, but tried with same lvl BM and Archers). I always got time to hit once my coleague's mob after finishing mine, although we usually start attk mobs at the same time...
Probably was just my bad luck running into some sub-par players, but hey...sht happens
I think the problem there is that Wizards can kill in just a few attacks, especially when hitting crits. If my husband (BM) and I split up on mobs, it takes him longer to kill one than it takes me, and we're at even levels. For him, the benefit of squadding with me is that kills go faster. For me, the benefit of squadding with him is that if I time things carefully, the mob stays more interested in him and I don't have to worry about my HP. I could, theoretically, go at about the same speed by soloing, but I'd take more hits and that would slow me down in the long run. So I'm able to go at a steadier pace for longer, conserving my HP and MP because he's my shield and I use fewer attacks. I just give up Exp and SP for that
We had one amusing quest last week where we accepted an Archer into the squad because we'd been grinding the mobs forever and hadn't gotten what we needed to complete the quest. I ended up laughing through the rest of it because when the archer and I teamed on a mob, it would go down well before his BM could even get within the Drake's Ray range, let alone melee. He kept muttering from across the room, wondering why he was even there at that point. So he went and peeled off his own mobs
(Full Disclosure: The archer was a higher level than both of us and could have 2-3 shotted the mobs on her own; it just ended up being 2-shots with one from her and one from me.)
So if you want a *really* quick grind where nobody gets nicked, Archer Wiz![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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hehe nice dramab:chuckle
hmmm im an arcane wiz - got 5300 phys def with stone barier (got only hp shards in my gear)... dueled many clerics lvls 90-96...and i can tell u... plume shot suxb:chuckle usually cleric with buffs vs me (w/o any buffs except stone barier ofc) deals like 1000-1200 dmg using plume shot... while noobie spells like sage pyrogram/gush+undine strike deal 1200-1400dmgMikel_oru - Sanctuary wrote: »The Cleric will pwn your **** with physical dmg while it can tank Wizard's spells, wtf.
and the fact is that - there is no way cleric can kill wizard in pvp mode 1 vs 1... but if wizard cant 1 shot cleric using BT there is no way he can kill him either ... ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
oooooooh Blessing where are u? me wanna test somethingb:laughMysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »RedSpeller, you really don't know anything, even at level 100 a cleric will crush a wizard.
33.1 second sleep is going to own you.
Deal with it,
33.1 sec and what?... lvl 10 FoW is way more usefull than this 33.1 sec sleepb:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »hehe nice dramab:chuckle
hmmm im an arcane wiz - got 5300 phys def with stone barier (got only hp shards in my gear)... dueled many clerics lvls 90-96...and i can tell u... plume shot suxb:chuckle usually cleric with buffs vs me (w/o any buffs except stone barier ofc) deals like 1000-1200 dmg using plume shot... while noobie spells like sage pyrogram/gush+undine strike deal 1200-1400dmg
and the fact is that - there is no way cleric can kill wizard in pvp mode 1 vs 1... but if wizard cant 1 shot cleric using BT there is no way he can kill him either ... ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
oooooooh Blessing where are u? me wanna test somethingb:laugh
33.1 sec and what?... lvl 10 FoW is way more usefull than this 33.1 sec sleepb:chuckle
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Two words: Thanks you ^^Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »hehe nice dramab:chuckle
hmmm im an arcane wiz - got 5300 phys def with stone barier (got only hp shards in my gear)... dueled many clerics lvls 90-96...and i can tell u... plume shot suxb:chuckle usually cleric with buffs vs me (w/o any buffs except stone barier ofc) deals like 1000-1200 dmg using plume shot... while noobie spells like sage pyrogram/gush+undine strike deal 1200-1400dmg
and the fact is that - there is no way cleric can kill wizard in pvp mode 1 vs 1... but if wizard cant 1 shot cleric using BT there is no way he can kill him either ... ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
oooooooh Blessing where are u? me wanna test somethingb:laugh
33.1 sec and what?... lvl 10 FoW is way more usefull than this 33.1 sec sleepb:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »hmmm im an arcane wiz - got 5300 phys def with stone barier (got only hp shards in my gear)... dueled many clerics lvls 90-96...and i can tell u... plume shot suxb:chuckle usually cleric with buffs vs me (w/o any buffs except stone barier ofc) deals like 1000-1200 dmg using plume shot... while noobie spells like sage pyrogram/gush+undine strike deal 1200-1400dmg
and the fact is that - there is no way cleric can kill wizard in pvp mode 1 vs 1... but if wizard cant 1 shot cleric using BT there is no way he can kill him either ... ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
Please do read again, this time quote my whole post. I was talking about 99% -channeling and I was beeing sarcastic because everyone talks about such things and we have yet to see them.
Read more carefully next time please.
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Wiz we have the extra mp buff and our cost in mana is much lower then the cleric skills. This makes all the difference in the world. Even if cleric in a 1v1 fight wins, and i am not saying they do cause i beat plenty, getting to that point is a nightmare on cleric. Whether it be lvl 60 80 100.
I have a 80 wiz and 66 cleric and i must say i can't stand my day to day on the game on the cleric. Same 3 skills over and over and i am lucky to go 5 min without 90 people pm'ing me for a res or to help on some boss. Zhen is way too expensive, as is HH. And FB runs 50% of the time are so stressful that it isn't even worth the exp. The cool cleric skills are not practical for PvE since you can kill maybe 7-9 mobs before you have to regen due to lower mana pool and higher mana cost, only good for PvP. Only problem is unless i want to stay 66 and PvP only 6xs and be a town buffer in TW, i have to PvE.
Wiz may be gimped, but the whole experiance is fun as hell. It is cheaper to play, more challenging, less stressful, and we can do some nasty stuff in this game that everyone else wishes they could, they just don't want to put up with the early PVP losses that we have to. I was overall better at PvP on the cleric since the attacks do just about the same amount of damage and between sleeps/debuffs/heals you have so much more to work with, but again, getting to whatever level your goal is, is just not worth it in my opinion0 -
anybody with half a brain can play cleric it takes skill to play as a wiz b:pleasedb:victory0
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Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »hehe nice dramab
hmmm im an arcane wiz - got 5300 phys def with stone barier (got only hp shards in my gear)... dueled many clerics lvls 90-96...and i can tell u... plume shot sux usually cleric with buffs vs me (w/o any buffs except stone barier ofc) deals like 1000-1200 dmg using plume shot... while noobie spells like sage pyrogram/gush+undine strike deal 1200-1400dmg
and the fact is that - there is no way cleric can kill wizard in pvp mode 1 vs 1... but if wizard cant 1 shot cleric using BT there is no way he can kill him either ... ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
oooooooh Blessing where are u? me wanna test somethingb:laugh
33.1 sec and what?... lvl 10 FoW is way more usefull than this 33.1 sec sleep
Alright time to get started,Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »while noobie spells like sage pyrogram/gush+undine strike deal 1200-1400dmg
*Guardian light* enough said.Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »hmmm im an arcane wiz - got 5300 phys def with stone barier (got only hp shards in my gear)... dueled many clerics lvls 90-96...and i can tell u... plume shot suxb usually cleric with buffs vs me (w/o any buffs except stone barier ofc) deals like 1000-1200 dmg using plume shot.
Lol, nice I mean.. It's not like a cleric has Wings of protection.. Guardian light.. I mean we don't even have a Magical attack! =O let alone Demon Plume shot >< I mean.. if we had demon plume shot we would hit higher than 1kSheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »there is no way cleric can kill wizard in pvp mode 1 vs 1... but if wizard cant 1 shot cleric using BT there is no way he can kill him either ... ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
No way a cleric can kill a wizard in PvP..? lol to be honest, I started this game in November 2008 and you are the ONLY person to say that.
Face it, you don't know what you're talking about.
Did you know, a cleric and a wizard spells have a really similar attack =O put it like this,
Pyrogram, gush = Plume shot, Great cyclone exact same damage except... plume shot is going to hurt.. alot.
Then again You got Sandstorm with long **** channelling but you could sutra but if you're gonna sutra may as well put a sign on your head 'please sleep me'
btw, A wizard 1 shotting a cleric? not gonna happen with BT, plume shell ftw?
[/QUOTE]Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »oooooooh Blessing where are u? me wanna test something
33.1 sec and what?... lvl 10 FoW is way more usefull than this 33.1 sec sleepb:chuckle
ROFL the 5 second sleep from FoW which in reality is 3 seconds, more useful than a 33.1 second sleep? alright, you do your little FoW and whatever a wizard does in that 3 seconds, which most smart wizards just run.
Then you get slept for 33.1 seconds, that's 33.1 seconds to pop a pot, apoth, Let plumeshell cooldown, build some chi, maybe even meditate for 20 seconds or so. and what you need to accept is, you will not run around the whole time with a clerics buffs, now I know you can't compare Cleric 2 wizard without account the wizard with the clerics buffs but please understand not all clerics are wizard **** kissing clerics that follow you around buffing you.
So there,
A clerics low channelling spells > Wizards low channelling spell
Sleep > force of will
M defence cleric > M defence wizard
Cleric > Wizard,
Side note once Demons spirits gift is avaliable in PWI, Kill your title as PWIs 2nd best dps class b:bye
But.. let's take into something you left out.. the level 100 spells. (wonder why you left em out lolz)
Wizard: Manifest virtue > Elemental invocation
Cleric: Seal of god > Elven boon
Ok, Manifest virtue, adds a rubbish 200% magic attack for 30 seconds with a 5min cool down that does not stack with Spark.
now, Elemental invocation, take some mana and chi and do like no earth damage, nice.
Seal of god, Seals and freezes you, ooh im gna cast this when you Spark or sutra
Elven boon, has a chance to do a lil FoW and heal ourself as well as doing the dmg of a cyclone omg 0.5 second cast b:shocked
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Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »So there,
A clerics low channelling spells > Wizards low channelling spell
Sleep > force of will
M defence cleric > M defence wizard
Cleric > Wizard,
clerics low channeling spells are roughly equal to wizzys. we got 3 fast channeling hell/heaven spells currently ingame.
sleep is ok, but its just to buy some time. in mass pvp its great but one on one its just like restarting the battle from scratch, and if u were forced to use sleep in the first place then round 2 isnt gonna be much different. only case its good is when ur enemy is at 50% hp and u wanna channel tempest or something big.
force of will on the other hand cancels enemys channeling, prevents them from using any spells, and buys u time to get off an extra hit. but your right 3sec is way too short.
m.def cleric > m.def wiz? debatable. your have your dmg absorb skills, we have undine strike.0 -
uhm...november 2008...No way a cleric can kill a wizard in PvP..? lol to be honest, I started this game in November 2008 and you are the ONLY person to say that.
Face it, you don't know what you're talking about.
that's what, 6 months?
How about ppl that play this game for abot 3 years or more?
yeah, I think u have a whole lotta sht to learn. Calm down, half of you arguments are just "read ecatomb, do bad math, yay my char is better". I don't want to make a point on your post cause I'm to bored to write right now. My signature though makes a point quite often.____________
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meh took me whole 5 min to read it >.< but ok lets start from the beginning
Guardian light - lasts 10 seconds, cooldown = 5min .... enough saidb:chuckleMysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »Alright time to get started,
*Guardian light* enough said.while noobie spells like sage pyrogram/gush+undine strike deal 1200-1400dmg
wings of protections - cooldown = 3 min (lasts 30 sec)Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Lol, nice I mean.. It's not like a cleric has Wings of protection.. Guardian light.. I mean we don't even have a Magical attack! =O let alone Demon Plume shot >< I mean.. if we had demon plume shot we would hit higher than 1khmmm im an arcane wiz - got 5300 phys def with stone barier (got only hp shards in my gear)... dueled many clerics lvls 90-96...and i can tell u... plume shot sux, usually cleric with buffs vs me (w/o any buffs except stone barier ofc) deals like 1000-1200 dmg using plume shot.
guardian light - cooldown = 5 min (lasts 10 sec)
demon plume shot? tbh i fought (mostly) against clerics who had sage plume shot.. so ... enough saidb:chuckle
i will repeat it again... THERE IS NO WAY A CLERIC CAN KILL A WIZARD IN PvP 1 vs 1 :PMysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »there is no way cleric can kill wizard in pvp mode 1 vs 1... but if wizard cant 1 shot cleric using BT there is no way he can kill him either ... ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
No way a cleric can kill a wizard in PvP..? lol to be honest, I started this game in November 2008 and you are the ONLY person to say that.
Face it, you don't know what you're talking about.
Did you know, a cleric and a wizard spells have a really similar attack =O put it like this,
Pyrogram, gush = Plume shot, Great cyclone exact same damage except... plume shot is going to hurt.. alot.
Then again You got Sandstorm with long **** channelling but you could sutra but if you're gonna sutra may as well put a sign on your head 'please sleep me'
i can just stand and heal myselft (yah that heal has very long chan but recovers almost 4k hp) geting chi, while cleric will use his best spells, sleep and whatever u want.. and there is no way he can kill me...
plume shell?Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »btw, A wizard 1 shotting a cleric? not gonna happen with BT, plume shell ftw?
looks like u forgot about 1 thing b:chuckle
when wizi has all sparks he can do a little trick... sutra+FoW(poor cleric can do nothing now)+us(poor cleric still can do nothing (hint: that's why FoW > sleep))+BT..... uuups
it's not like it will 1 hit cleric and let u win (well.. maybe sometimes^^) but i just showed u how wizard can easily "skip" plume shell
So there,
A clerics low channelling spells =< Wizards low channelling spell (< means sutra FTW)
Sleep < force of will (dont forget wizi has sleep as a spell as well, 4 sec but u would be suprised how usefull those 4 sec are in PvP)
M defence cleric = M defence wizard (us FTW)
Cleric = Wizard,Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »But.. let's take into something you left out.. the level 100 spells. (wonder why you left em out lolz)
Wizard: Manifest virtue > Elemental invocation
Cleric: Seal of god > Elven boon
Ok, Manifest virtue, adds a rubbish 200% magic attack for 30 seconds with a 5min cool down that does not stack with Spark.
now, Elemental invocation, take some mana and chi and do like no earth damage, nice.
dont wanna talk about it coz i didnt see those spells in action yet...ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
but 1 more lvl and... who knowsb:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Ursa, Shoosh this game hasn't been out for 3 years, My arguments are not read ecatomb, of course I get my information from ecatomb however, like everyone does? lol I know what im talking about.
and sheswes,
Undine strike is nothing when a cleric has magic shell, Magic shell +60% Undine -60% no diffrence, DoT damage from Undine is pathetic.
How about, tick charm > Debuff > Sleep > tempest
Demon plume shot has 0.7 channelling meaning 1.4 seconds per revolution.
Morning dew has 4.5 second channelling, So you could fit in 3 demon plume shots in that time, you said your self plume shot hit around 1.2 so with 3 demon plume shots that's 3.6kdmg.
What are you saying Sutra > FoW > BT?
We cast plume shell/Sleep while you sutra, unless you are referring to PK where the wizard sneaks the cleric (ofc you would result to that).
Sutra is instant, but the button pressing skills arent
This would be an interesting thread, however your statements are old, and I have heard them 100 times, please something new maybe?
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=174031 <-- please read thisWe're MysticAve my name is not Dave
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like in every other thing in life, there are ppl who succeed and ppl who fail.
Wizz is a hard class and must be played perfectly. When that is done, wizz is on par or better than other classes, no doubt about it. A lot of pp fail when building a wizz because u need a little bit more brain and skill not to make mistakes, because we don't have a shield/half and hour sleep/ insane amount of HP or stuns for half a city to fall back to. Playing wizz is a high risk high reward game. The most feared players on the MY and CN servers are Archers and Wizzies, and on those servers u can say ppl have no RL. Those guys are playing like mad.
And PWI is not out for 3 years, but the MY and CN servers are. Follow your advice and read more, you might find it usefull.____________
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hmm tempest?..hello im arcane wizard... that spell does 2400-2500 dmg... oh and yea that combo can rly kill wizard (maybe noob wiz?) especialy that u ticked his charm b4 and little wizi got full hp again T_T FoW right after that TEMPEST!! + morning dew and omg wizi with full hp... AGAIN!Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »Ursa, Shoosh this game hasn't been out for 3 years, My arguments are not read ecatomb, of course I get my information from ecatomb however, like everyone does? lol I know what im talking about.
How about, tick charm > Debuff > Sleep > tempest
first of all demon plume shot has 1,2 channeling lol...and i was talking about sage plume shot... so dont compare it to demon plume shot lol.. and like i said b4.. morning dew recovers almost 4k hp so ?...Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »Demon plume shot has 0.7 channelling meaning 1.4 seconds per revolution.
Morning dew has 4.5 second channelling, So you could fit in 3 demon plume shots in that time, you said your self plume shot hit around 1.2 so with 3 demon plume shots that's 3.6kdmg.
i just knew that u will say thatb:laugh rly u got perfect timing especialy that sutra has channel = instant lol...Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »What are you saying Sutra > FoW > BT?
We cast plume shell/Sleep while you sutra, unless you are referring to PK where the wizard sneaks the cleric (ofc you would result to that).
Sutra is instant, but the button pressing skills arent
anyway that's why i wanted to give other example b4 but oki i will do this now..
sleep (oh noes u cant do now ur perfect timing plume shell/sleep)+sutra+FoW(meanwhile apo chi pot)+BT.... better lol?
and...OMG dude u're lvl 78 and u wanna talk about lvl 100 spells?... what more.. u dont even have lvl 79 spells but u're talking how fantastic they areb:laugh
anyway if u wanna prove me something meet me in game and show me ur perfect timing or whatever u want, or at least send some very high lvl and skilled cleric against meb:cute everything what i wrote here comes from my experience in game while u... just talking about some ecatom's spells and "how about" some combo lol... and u dare to claim u know what u are talking about ZZZzzzz....
u're patheticb:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »Then you get slept for 33.1 seconds, that's 33.1 seconds to pop a pot, apoth, Let plumeshell cooldown, build some chi, maybe even meditate for 20 seconds or so.
Or log out?
I have never tried logging out when slept. I know I can not log out when I am in combat, but I am not in combat when I am asleep?
Has anyone ever tried this? (I am sorry, but I have not tried anything like this -- I do not pvp enough, but this thought just now occurred to me...)0 -
HAHAHAHA.Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »Ursa, Shoosh this game hasn't been out for 3 years, My arguments are not read ecatomb, of course I get my information from ecatomb however, like everyone does? lol I know what im talking about.
and sheswes,
Undine strike is nothing when a cleric has magic shell, Magic shell +60% Undine -60% no diffrence, DoT damage from Undine is pathetic.
How about, tick charm > Debuff > Sleep > tempest
Demon plume shot has 0.7 channelling meaning 1.4 seconds per revolution.
Morning dew has 4.5 second channelling, So you could fit in 3 demon plume shots in that time, you said your self plume shot hit around 1.2 so with 3 demon plume shots that's 3.6kdmg.
What are you saying Sutra > FoW > BT?
We cast plume shell/Sleep while you sutra, unless you are referring to PK where the wizard sneaks the cleric (ofc you would result to that).
Sutra is instant, but the button pressing skills arent
This would be an interesting thread, however your statements are old, and I have heard them 100 times, please something new maybe?
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=174031 <-- please read this
You're as dumb as ever. Btw, by the time you see the sutra animation, it's too late. You'll be sealed before you can sleep/use plume shell. Maybe get some pvp experience before talking?
You can forcefully shut down the game at pretty much any point in timeKikuzakura - Sanctuary wrote: »Or log out?
I have never tried logging out when slept. I know I can not log out when I am in combat, but I am not in combat when I am asleep?
Has anyone ever tried this? (I am sorry, but I have not tried anything like this -- I do not pvp enough, but this thought just now occurred to me...)Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.0 -
You can BUT char will stay ingame for a while, about 30 secs. No safe escape here.Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »You can forcefully shut down the game at pretty much any point in time--
PWonline.ru, Sirius: Иней, 70 cleric - off.
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No, your char is gone instantly, I've done it before and seen myself dissappear with my second computerRinnve - Lost City wrote: »You can BUT char will stay ingame for a while, about 30 secs. No safe escape here.Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.0 -
Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »HAHAHAHA.
You're as dumb as ever. Btw, by the time you see the sutra animation, it's too late. You'll be sealed before you can sleep/use plume shell. Maybe get some pvp experience before talking?
You can forcefully shut down the game at pretty much any point in time
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Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »No, your char is gone instantly, I've done it before and seen myself dissappear with my second computer
I believe normal quit gets your character out immediately, but force quit might or might not, depending. If you are in combat, I think force quit will leave you there0 -
Kikuzakura - Sanctuary wrote: »I believe normal quit gets your character out immediately, but force quit might or might not, depending. If you are in combat, I think force quit will leave you there
If you log out you logged out, the char doesn't stay on, when you're in combat or whatever you can't log out with normal quit, no matter how much you push it it just won't do anything, if you do forced quit then you're out of the game, totally. The char stays on only if you get disconnected.
@Sheswes
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Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »hehe nice dramab:chuckle
hmmm im an arcane wiz - got 5300 phys def with stone barier (got only hp shards in my gear)... dueled many clerics lvls 90-96...and i can tell u... plume shot suxb:chuckle usually cleric with buffs vs me (w/o any buffs except stone barier ofc) deals like 1000-1200 dmg using plume shot... while noobie spells like sage pyrogram/gush+undine strike deal 1200-1400dmg
and the fact is that - there is no way cleric can kill wizard in pvp mode 1 vs 1... but if wizard cant 1 shot cleric using BT there is no way he can kill him either ... ofc im talking about fight 1 vs 1 w/o lvl 100 spells
oooooooh Blessing where are u? me wanna test somethingb:laugh
33.1 sec and what?... lvl 10 FoW is way more usefull than this 33.1 sec sleepb:chuckle
^ speaks the truth.omg im posting stuff.0 -
Just tried it with my trading alt on other comp. After force quit, char immediately left the squad but stayed for about 15 seconds being attacked by a mob.Kikuzakura - Sanctuary wrote: »If you are in combat, I think force quit will leave you there--
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Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »and sheswes,
Undine strike is nothing when a cleric has magic shell, Magic shell +60% Undine -60% no diffrence, DoT damage from Undine is pathetic.
How about, tick charm > Debuff > Sleep > tempest
Your assuming the wizard is alone. On a rare full moon a wizzy will come across a cleric solo grinding, but most of the times its in mass pvp and not 1 on 1. Now if the wizzys buffed and the clerics buffed, that undine strike gives the wizzy a huge advantage.
Now as for this combo, i dont like it. You ticked the herio, but if tempest doesnt 1 shot then sleep gets dispelled and the wizzy can distance shrink out of range till it ticks again. Personally i'd get them down to 50-60% hp, debuff, sleep and tempest. Your very likely to bypass their herio like that.0 -
Hidden - Lost City wrote: »Your assuming the wizard is alone
Now if the wizzys buffed and the clerics buffed, that undine strike gives the wizzy a huge advantage.
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okie okie my turn turn! what about....
Undine, FoW, sutra, glacial spike (does more dmg @ higher levels most of the time)*or SS if u want* then whatever spells u want ;P. what cleric can live without 6 seconds of cast. if all else fails, distance shrink out of range and let FoW cool down ^^.
Mages are great hehe. just buy a 3.0 sword and keep accelerate filled and u can w8 for CD's if needed. ^^
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6 seconds not before 85lvl. And honestly, i seriously doubt that it will be enough, at least against good cleric (= lots of vit). Today i had a 1vs1 pvp with some random 5X cleric with crappy equipment (all 1* vs my 3*/legendary). Killed him twice 'cause he did not bother to heal himself. Spark - plume shots - "wait why this wiz is not dead OH SHI~". After that, he finally started to heal himself (and attack me between heals of course; not exactly deadly but ticked charm a lot). Even without charm, he was simply impossible to kill, his hp did not lowered below ~70%. Ended up flying with 0 mana to nearby town for mp potions b:cry
IMO the only chance to kill cleric in his defence is to one-shot him, may be two-shot but FAST, before all those stacked ironhearts heal him from 10% to 100% in no time.--
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wait until over 60, you'll have the means to one shot him if needed____________
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