Ability Wishlist

Make it to where NONE of the 79 skills require apocolypse pages etc - they should be obtained as any other skill - also as a veno - a better and longer buff would be great

Offer reading lessons instead please.

Reason: A lot of these people probably have terrible reading comprehension. Thus, they can't read and utilize their skills to the fullest instead of asking for more. We have a mage complaining about casting time when the game have cast time reduction equipment. I wouldn't want to mess with a wizard that has a ridiculously high channeling time reduction. Venomancers asking for a better stun. They can teach their pet the stun skill. Let not get into how much WFs don't know how to utilize their skills because in my opinion, they have the best defensive skills.

Class: Veno
Skill: Reduce Pet Size
Logic: Pets like to stand on top of you and therefore any large pet (Magmite, etc) takes up most of the screen making it very hard to target. Will also make it easier to swap targets in a crowd when using a large pet that has had its size reduced. This would reduce pet size so pet is smaller than Veno (Shaudo Cub size as an example)

Maiya - Lost City wrote: »

I'm just gonna post one for a class I don't use. If you make immunity to phoenix bleed, I doubt it would be easy to solo out that specific pet only and not the rest. And if you fix the bleed, please suggest things that would make the Venomancer better, cause I don't see Venomancers with a pet that dies in a few hits being much help. Venomancers have the lowest magic attack of all the casters I believe.

@Fox Form skill. Fox form cannot cast magic, most only debuff. I don't know about you, but I don't see a Fox Form meleeing a BM, Barb, or Archer. It just doesn't work. Archers can shoot right through that defense easily (light and arcane). And if we get 10m/s speed, its not helping us win a fight if we just run.

Class: Cleric
Skill: Speed Buff
Logic: I have heard many clerics complain about moving so slow in fbs or whatever. Wizards have Distance Shrink that they could use once in awhile. But clerics are forever stuck to move 4.8(?) for the longest time.

Its true fox form cant cast but i was commenting on the fact that it keeps u alive and when u have a pet to **** players u jus need to stay alive. Also debuff and amp in this form then switching back allows u to deal some big numbers on ur enemy, all the while ur bird from hell is pecking away at 800 damageb:sad. I also posted fox form speed to point out to all those venos who say they get owned when someone jumps them u can run very fast with increased defense then swing around when heiro ticks and apply phoenix ****. Most venos in fact jus keep running and have phoenix kill the player in pursuit.

Maiya it is true ur spells are slightly (yes only slightly) weaker than a wiz but u have a pet dealing extra damage. 9x wf dealing 1.8k damage per spell with a pet doin 800 thats 2.6k damage which is more than what i take from a mage thats without the bleed.

To above poster, venos dont suck they jus require skill to play. People like Cancer were feared in lost city before the phoenix came out. Also why should u kill people easily without pets? Pets are ur advantage i think it should be a level playing ground when u are using ur pets. Venos do spend some money on ur phoenix but it gives u such a boost other players need to spend 4x that amount to contend not really fair is it?

+1 on Virillink look at ur skills guys. Barbs ALREADY have an aoe stun. Clerics ALREADY have a defense increase self buff (79 skill) read through ur skills and utilize ur class.

i think that all classes should be able to turn insiable to otehr players for like 30 seconds at a time, it would be great for sneaking up on players in pvp

Well, I was bored, so I read all of these and made a very short list of the top 3 most wanted (unless I counted wrong):
A cleric speed buff: I counted 15 people asking for this.
Fix phoenix/bleed: 11 people
healing-type skill for archer: 9 people
omnislash: 4 ? <not really one of the most wanted...but I thought it was weird.

demonicfire wrote: »

i think that all classes should be able to turn insiable to otehr players for like 30 seconds at a time, it would be great for sneaking up on players in pvp

Revenge of the barbs and BMs. I'm not sure that would be that would be a good idea, Barbs and BMs would suddenly become the best PKing classes. Or worse, an invisible phoenix...

Ah, so the distance can outrange. Nevermind about what I said then. Gonna stop posting in this topic cause we're kinda going off topic, lol.

Class - Cleric

problems: killing a charmed opponent, lack of survivability, lack of versitiliy

problem 1: Clerics have 5 non-spark attacks. 2 of these are physical damage, 3 are metal damage(and only two are effective). Since a lot of people have charms in PvP, these charms need to be "ticked". Now how are we supposed to kill a barbarian with 6K HP?Assuming the barbarians are using heavy armor we can rule out our physical damage attacks. So how do we smash through 6K HP in 10 seconds? I believe the another attack similar to wield thunder(although with a stun) would be very useful. This attack would need 3 attributes - high damage, low cast time, and a movement impediment. This would allow clerics too stay at range and kill a barbarian.

problem 2: Despite being arguably the most important member in a squad, clerics have low survivablity. One of the largest security gaps in a cleric is their speed. While BMs have cloudsprint, wizards their teleports, archers and venos thier speed buffs, and barbarians their tiger form, clerics really don't have anything. Yes there is a lvl79 skill which increases speed by 30% but is that really enough? it requires 1 spark and it lasts for 15 seconds. BMs can chase down a cleric, barbarians in a lvl59 tiger form probably could, venos could chase down with a pet, and archers could snipe from afar. Hence, the skill is almost useless. What we really need is a two way TP which would allow us to zip into town for 30 seconds and to zip back into the "wild".

problem 3: one of the problems I've run into is egotistical tanks. They'll whine and cry over a ticked charm and they spam squad chat with "HEAL ME". Really, I'm sick of being kicked around by inexperienced egotistical tanks. Give us other. How about a chain of skills which allows clerics to plant bombs - like a healing bomb, a destroying bomb, stun bomb, and a bomb remover. That way, we can do other things besides heal heal heal heal heal heal heal and ...
... heal. That way we can run around, place bombs and the squad has run into heal bombs and drag bosses into destroy bombs. This set of skills would also be useful in TW. We could have clerics placing bombs along the paths and near gates. Then other clerics try to remove the bombs while archers and mages snipe and the clerics. Also this set of skills would be useful in other PvP. Clerics could set up bombs around a person and healing bombs around squad members.

other really cool skills:
- equipment durablity drain -this skill wouldn't do much but it would really iritate other people and it would be funny.
- reputation drain - this would also be another fun skill. Simply, it drains a targets reputation.
- Instant Mp regen - this would be an awesome skill
- turn off charms - this would be very usefull for PvP. Simply turn off someones charm and kill them.

So in summary here's the skills I would suggest.

1)battery - deals 6K damage + 300% weapon, stuns for 8 seconds(casting time:0.5sec)
2)cloud sutra - teleports one self to nearest town. Within a span of 30 seconds, one can teleport back to orginal spot.(casting time: 0sec)
3)lightning in a box - deals 5Kmetal damage and 2K physical damage; must be planted, remains invisible once planted.(casting time: 6 sec)
4)heaven's first aid kit - heals the "tripper"s HP completely, remains invisble once planted(casting time: 6 sec)
5)hot-metal-in-the-face - stuns the tripper for 10 seconds.(casting time: 6 sec)
6)ighting-is-bad-for-gear - drains 20durabity from each equipment piece(casting time: 2 sec)
7)mudsliging - drains 1 repuation every second from target
8)bye-bye-charm -disables charms
9)MP drain - drains 30 Mp every second from target.

Veno/Mage
decressed chaneling buff
cuz it evens it sucks when u get stund ryt away from bms

Class: Wizard

Skill: A skill that takes away a small percentage of life... so it would useful for bosses but people wouldn't complain in PvP. So a move that does damage = to like 1-5% of the bosses life, which would be a reason that a wizard could get into a party (saves other's hieros and really shortens the fight)

Logic: Wizards REALLY are in need of some party skill. It is near impossible to get into a squad with frostblade as our only party buff, and no tanking ability.. with venos out DD us for bosses b:sad Just some kind of skill that will help us get into squads...

class: archer

skill: blazing arrow

logic: blazing arrow should have continuous fire damage instead of that small dmg boost it gives... its called blazing arrow so it should just set its opponent on fire b:chuckle... good idea? yes... makes sense? yes b:victory

I just read the whole thread b:surrender, and while I saw some interesting ideas, most of them were just dumb. First I'll talk about my class...

VENOS
Stop complaining about your buffs, you've got the best self-buffs in the game. 120% pdef, 200% accuracy, 120% physical attack... that comes from fox form. If you don't use fox form, frankly I think you're an idiot... that's like a barbarian not using tiger form, or a cleric not using heals. You're literally ignoring half your skills. I can hold my own against most barbs in fox form with leech, and BMs I'll (only class I really need to use this on) bramble hood and either watch and laugh as they suicide themselves, or nuke them as they run away.

As for phoenixes, just make the damn pet bleed do 1/4 less damage... most DoTs are rendered almost useless in PvP, why should bleed be any different? Your phoenix is still the best attack pet in the game without bleed.


ARCHERS
Stop asking to be able to pull mobs. You're not just another DD, you've got sharpened tooth arrow - tell me ONE other class that can do 10-20% hp damage in one hit! On some of the higher bosses that could be well over a million damage. Say it's expensive if you want - all class' skills are expensive, get over it.
Also, stop asking for a damn heal spell. You do ridiculous damage, and your winged shell-thingy is the only skill besides nature's grace that regens mana... AND it absorbs damage as well. Trade it with a cleric heal if you want, as by the sounds of it they have no idea how to use plume shell (80% damage reduction isn't enough?!) and want their own MP regen.
And just for clarification when you say you're the weakest class because your armour defence sucks, while mag mobs attack arcane users (their best defence) and physical mobs attack heavy armour users (also their best defence), one ranged melee mob will drop an arcane user in like 3 hits, and mag mobs still use magic in melee range, and half of them kite you as well.


CLERICS
Stop asking for more buffs. You've got the most buffs in the game. As for increased movement speed... while I agree that would certainly be helpful, I do see a point in keeping you slow. Pretty much, if anyone runs ahead and goes leeroy jenkins, they die, because you can't keep up. Then you get to point and laugh and say if you'd only just waited you wouldn't be dead. Of course, you're going to end up having to res them anyway, so that kinda destroys this whole idea. I can still see it from a designer's point of view though - the person who keeps the party alive needs the party to keep them alive, because they themselves are somewhat defenceless.


BARBS
You've got a ranged skill, you've got a stun. You've even got a slow to catch those kiting buggers. You've got sunder for healing, and if you can't heal enough with sunder you should have a cleric as you're probably killing a boss.


BMS
Not much to say on this one... just PLEASE no more AoEs. As a veno, I've got a grand total of one that's actually useful, 2 more that require 2 sparks to cast and a really weak fan AoE that you have to be in fox form to use. You don't need more ranged skills either, you've got a ridiculous amount of stuns to keep someone from running, drake's ray, and if you've got a spear on you like 3 more ranged skills.


WIZARDS
Like it or not, you've got the highest skill damage combined with the lowest physical defence. Archers might out-DD you if you factor in crits, but you've got the highest damage, hands down. Don't ask to do more. About the stuns, undine strike and the seal thing is probably good enough... as a veno my MAXED stun lasts 2 seconds and still misses sometimes. Yeah, I've got a pet, but they die sometimes. It happens. I can't exactly stun my attackers and run away, let alone AoE knockback them and teleport away...


Good comments I've seen for my class (can't really comment on others) I've only seen one of - that being the veno version of Dragon's Breath that only poisons your enemy. It would do almost no damage probably... but it would be really, really funny to see.
I also have an idea of my own - fix pet skills so there's no 2 second delay using them, making shriek useless - that wouldn't really be overpowering in any way, just make the damn skill actually work.

I'm sure there have been other decent suggestions, but I'm tired from reading the thread and can't remember them. Sorry if I've offended anyone, but there's been a lot of ridiculous comments here that just make me wonder (case and point: 10 second 15m AoE archer stun or something like that... what the hell?! a 10 second stun, and - as if that's not overpowered enough - a massive AoE as well?!), and I'm kinda angry at people who don't know how to use their own skills and ask for skills they already have.

Class: Cleric
Skill: Blessing of the Purehearted (Shorter cast time and only targets SELF)
Reason: I don't know a single cleric that lvls this skill, right now it is 100% USELESS. In PK it is really hard for a cleric to heal himself due to the target lag so half the time he heals his opponent instead, and by the time he re-selects his opponent (instead of the opponent's all class pet) he is dead anyways. This would give clerics a reason to level this skill.

Class: Cleric
Skill: Celestial Guardian's Seal: At least double this please. A regen of 10hp/mp at level 70+ is worthless, esp because in combat it is nerfed to 2.5hp/mp sec. It is the most worthless buff clerics have.

Also I support giving the clerics a speed buff (besides the lvl 79) and AOE purify.

And please bring the charm packs back!

Class: Cleric
Skill: Blessing of the Purehearted (Shorter cast time and only targets SELF)
Reason: I don't know a single cleric that lvls this skill, right now it is 100% USELESS. In PK it is really hard for a cleric to heal himself due to the target lag so half the time he heals his opponent instead, and by the time he re-selects his opponent (instead of the opponent's all class pet) he is dead anyways. This would give clerics a reason to level this skill.

Lv10 Purehearted here.
And i used it quite a lot before i got stream to lv5-6 (now lv8).
I disagree with making it self-target only, because you would to wait until lv49 to have a heal that can heal a huge amount of hp at once.