Comprehensive Venomancer Guide

you don't lvl up your pet taming -type skills by the venomancer npc, but by the pet master - the one who gave you your first pet etc. (pet taming option )

thnx im makeing VM my first too
they seem great

Finally sat down and had a look at this, and It's really well written senovit.

Really not much I can suggest for now.

I found some stuff though.

No mention of Melee Feat Mastery/Melee Mastery.

Base stats start at 5 and not 3. This is in regards to where you say to have some stats at 3, Con for Heavy and Agi for Mage.

An idea would be to post coordinates for the popular pets you list, and maybe prices of skills if you want. Also Granny/Zoologist's location would be nice, since you have skills listed but not where to get them.

If I have more I'll be sure to let you know.

friskie wrote: »

Im a venomancer and would like to learn how to charm/lure mobs to be my pets can some one help me plz:)

That involves just knowing when to use Tame, what's immune to it, and at what health to use it. There's really no "teaching" required, honestly.

beelzibob wrote: »

i want the oppisate i wnat primaraly fox but to also be a good caster (mainly to heal myself) so what should i do?

Opposite of what?

Did you just say heal yourself? Only classes with heal skills are Cleric and Mage, and those don't normally melee. They can but they end up gimping being able to use any of their skills because of using the wrong weapon. There's no hybridized classes in this game, really. There's only so many ways to play a class, most of them very similar to each other.

WoW Example: Paladin DPSer can heal if they need to, but they'd be bad at it. Hybrid, able to fill three roles.

PW Example: Blade DPSer has no healing skills what so ever. Not as hybridized as above, and Barb stil out-tanks, so mainly reduced to a DPSer, still.

You're welcome. I didn't think you'd omit it on purpose.

Hmm, the stats thing is really interesting. I'm probably gonna do that if I ever make a class that uses only 2 or three stats and I have extra money. Good to know.

Also might I suggest you take other people's opinions on some things and put it in? You know, like a "second opinion" kind of thing, for readers who don't like to read multipage guides with replies.

I personally like Blazing Parasite. I use it on monsters, even though I kill them faster than it ticks for full, and I probably shouldn't, but I find that it helps to have it on bosses as extra damage. Heck, even on just mobs that 200 or so that ticked while you were killing it helped you kill ffaster. The skill is decent in situations.

And I personally like to level Tame maybe once or twice for range. It's really only good for the trick I do with it to get Flys down when I can't fly yet, using it's range. If you always Tame at low health and can fly, there really is no reason to level it past 2 or 3 in my opinion.

Revive is meh. I really can't say I dissagree with you here, but for the times that you do use it, would you rather save MP or not? If the pet died and you're hauling butt, you wouldn't care because you'll be in either a safe area or just take some time to regen mana/Pot/use MP skill (God I wanna be level 36 already but I haven't been playing a while ). But in a party (Especially when it's strangers on a speed run to a dungeon or something) do you really have time to ask them to wait for you to regen mana, and expect them to comply? Not really. Pretty situational as well.

Also just saw you added formatting. It looks pretty.

Yea, I noticed that. For some odd reason I have a full or nearly full vigor bar ever since I got the DOT. Ticks reallly give vigor aparently. I hadn't thought that was the reason until you just said it. Silly me.

Yea I also think leveling Tame is a waste. It's pretty meh. If you're always using it at low hp there should be no reason to level it, which everybody does use at low hp. Love the Pokemon reference by the way.

Agree on Revive.

I still think the formatting is great. Keep going with this. Go go.

It's the only thing I can think of, honestly. Both times (Here and MY) I used to have problems with having enough vigor for Iron, but when I got the Fire skill and used it, that problem vanished. I almost always have a nearly full bar after only a couple of mobs (2 since level 30) of it, as opposed to just using Evenom then Iron and sometimes not having enough vigor for Iron.

It seems logical to assume the ticks give vigor, since I have way more then when I was just using Envenom and Iron, then now I start fights with Fire > Iron > couple of Envenoms and end up with a lot of vigor even if the mob dies fast after the initial Iron which does high damage. I haven't really been keeping an eye on it, just the before and after, which seems noticably more after having started with Fire than not usng it. I could test it full if you think I should.

Mhhk, I was gonna get on for the daily anyway, but if you wanna test it yourself, go for it.

Really there's nothing else I can think of that could account for the extra vigor. Pet attacking doesn't do it. Envenom gives vigor, but it can't be what's doing it, because it only takes 1 or two Envenoms after Iron hits, and I'm left with a lot of vigor after the fight. Can't be Iron doing it because it uses vigor, and I only have three attacks. Process of elimination, but it just took me this long to come to this conclusion. I'm slow sometimes with catching on to stuff..

EDIT: Yay, I was right. Fire does give oddly abnormally high vigor count. It's not useless as the majority claim. .

If I chose to play as a caster, should I only buy the skills that belong to a caster?

or should I just buy every skill there is?

see there is some form of spirits points, will I run out of them if I just buy everything

Hi everyone.

I have a question.
I love pvp and I don't know if I must up CON or not ?
I know that I must up MAG (and STR in order to wear my armor) but the dex ? I don't up it ??

Thanks.

On the contrary, battlepants, I want to thank the original poster for his/her in-depth guide that explains skills, pets and roles. Much too often these insights are left out due to lack of knowledge, time or effort. good job!

heya...i've been deciding whether to re-cre8 a veno pure melee form..
but i am not sure whether it can survive pretty well in light armor build?
any advice??

i am concentrating on the PvE situation.. can it survive as good as light robe armor build?
if still not much diff..

dont mind telling me the stats to add?weapons to hold?
which stats should i concentrate on? int?vit?str? or dex?
and most imptly what weapon should i hold??

pls giv me a reply thks ya so muhc
great effort made in this thread..

Not sure if this has been touched on already (I did not read through the entire thread, just the first few pages)...but....

Would it be viable to go heavy armor to buff pdef, and use the fox skill tree with the various melee attacks (the rightmost skill tree) to fight in the fray along with my pet? That plus maybe bramble guard may just make me more formidable.

It seems like it could work but I get the impression from reading this guide that heavy armor builds won't have enough mana, or if fox form is an efficient melee attacker or not.

The idea sounds very promising to me though, and I may just try it, but it'd be nice to get input from experienced players.