Chances to do mbh whithout R9

MBH 999 DESIGNED to help G15 players, you only need to obtain boss 10 for MBH and daily reward
MBH JFSP Designed for g15/16 RB1 LV100 players. Many squads everyday in world chat, many of witch are wanting certain classes. They dont usually care if the BM is tt90 or R9 because DG is DG.
MBH DDH Designed for G16 TS3 players and can be done with all G16s with enough communication between the players.
MBH DUP - i would not suggest this one without R9 for at least half the squad.


MBH is not designed for Rank 9 gears. The game is not designed for Rank 9 gears.
Rank 9 gear is a luxuary that you earn, it is not required for ANYTHING, it's just nice to have.

You can always make your own squad for any instance insuring your own spot in the squad.
People need to quit crying about the cash aspect of this game, the cashers keep the game afloat. Without them, PWI doesnt have the motivation OR server cost to host the game and everything you love about it is lost.

Further more, Merchanting, Farming, Auction, and more are available for free 2 play.
Farm warsong/TT 1-1 - 3-3/Luanr/DDH/JFSP for coins/UP normal
Merchant - buy low/sell high.
Quest rewards - really???? Jolly ol jones is still available and makes people millions each day.
BH- 2x 1m cards OR 1x 5m card
MBH 2-3x 1m cards or 1x 5m or 1x 10m

plenty to do, open your eyes and actually look, quit crying because you think everything should be handed to you.

Thank you

scipio1966 wrote: »

It looks like no chances, cause all good players make sguad one with other and no noob can come. PWI take out possibility to make money , farming. And all other choices (auction, rewards from guest) are carefully cut.
All is restricted to buy gold. WHY?
I am to close to finish. I not like abandon after soo much time (and more) spent playing.
Please give me (us) a chances to upgrade gear ... give back Littlefoot for example.

1.Well FSJ can be done with decentish G16 equipment too

2.IU also took G16 ish I believe(well atleast when it initially came out idk the current situation)

3.UPD... well I am sorry this one is a tough entry unless you are in a decent fac perhaps a good tw one or you belong to these classes- as G16 veno,sb,seeker(seeker ss is going to be nerfed soon ) and I am talking from Tideswell's viewpoint
(the other servers are i guess more into taking R9's not to forget that Et actually has a weap link thing)

4.DHD I have seen G16's going there but once again its not an easy dungeon either so better geared people are preferred.(the classes I mentioned again are more preferred even in G16s due to their skills and ulti)

5.TT 4 instance Idk about this one

All in all you should atleast have a decent G16ish to make your way into FSJ and IU I guess that aside if you are in a good fac you may get your chances with the fac squad for UPD/DHDs

G16 is Ws farmable

konagurl6666 wrote: »

MBH DUP - i would not suggest this one without R9 for at least half the squad.

mbh UP can be done in normal mode. I know few people do that, but some does, for weekly run, practice...

Then why the yask for weapon? up normal is easy.

zoube wrote: »

Then why the yask for weapon? up normal is easy.

I dont so I wouldnt know. Generally the ppl asking for wep links arent that good cause they either cant carry run themselves and/or are looking to get carried. UP is easy, even a psy can solo DD the run if its properly geared. You need all kinds of debuffs for it though obviously.

I'm going have to say only up would be the hard one to go for non r9, I can't speak for all servers but on etherblade you either know nice people/good faction or have r9/ war soul wep to join one . Don't even get me started on needing up twice for cultivation for new people or those who have not caught up.

Here's the way I see it:

>JFSP (BH)
Doable with G15/16 and more, no problem. As long as you have someone who can tank Toad and friends, its pretty easy.

>JFSP (MBH)
There are more mechanics and depending on the group, you may have to actually do them. You may also not be able to speedkill Belle Lune, but that just means killing her servants as they spawn while gradually beating her down. Still doable even in G15/G16.

>DDH
G16 is fine here. Its more about mechanical knowledge than raw power. (though its not that it doesnt help)

>UP
Again, more mechanically involved. Even though you can get by with G16, powering through with R9+ is preferred by most.

>IBU
Same as UP and DDH - knowing the mechanics helps alot, but unfortunately some things hit incredibly hard, so even in G16, death is pretty likely if you're not on top of things.

Every other BH is pretty much faceroll by G16 and up. The real problem lies with "class viability". If you're not wanted for certain buffs or debuffs or already highly decked out gear-wise, you'll either have to reroll or make a squad and hope it fills with what is "needed"...

antonio0590 wrote: »

All these acronyms for these instance is making my head hurt. I mean, do you really call it Deicide Dawnlight Halls? or Deicide Uncharted Paradise? Judgement Flowsilver Palace?

O find it funny how each server refers to the instance differently. One of my fave was mobless WS. Tho you would still kill the mobs after the first part. Our server referred to it as a badge run. Which was exactly what it was.

To be fair again. It's really each to ther own it didn't really matter too much what you called the run or cave.

As on topic I believe it's possible to do most MBH with G16. Knowing your toon skills and boss mechanics is essential tho. Sad when most squads wanna SK everything.

Waits for anti SK buff. O Dear.

Thanks.

Since you're a "9 years player" you should know this game died almost every day since you came online. There are enough ways to make 'in game' money, just search this forum to get the idea. In other words: F2P players can still have fun but need to work hard and for a long time just to get nice stuff. But you already spend 9 years so should have enough reputation by doing quests. The problem with having no money for repairs etc. shouldn't be yours. Maybe only for players who started 1 or 2 years ago.
What scipio1966 wrote is something we have since the beginning of Perfect World. People don't want inexperienced people in a squad. Not because they're always in a hurry but it's more to 'abuse' other players who have better armor, more damage etc. For them it's all about surviving and of course to spend less time doing a quest. That makes this game not dead. It just makes this game a game! And that's still today.

Best solution for people who have the idea this game is dead would be uninstall PWI and Arc. Peace will return! For all others: have fun... it's x2 today so farm, farm, farm....

Of course the instances can be done in G16 gear. I hear so many people complaining that they "can't get in a squad" because they are not R9. News flash: 1.) You can NOT get kicked out of your own squad. Make your own squad and don't depend on people to use their own teles to make a squad and then complain when they don't want to take you. 2.) As for the person(s) who say R9 is only bought, that information is inaccurate as I know people on Etherblade server that have never spent a dime of real money in game and have farmed all of their gear. I myself did some of both. 3.) Some people are on a pity party when they say they can't get in a squad, but absolutely refuse to make a squad themselves. I have no time for people like this. 4.) Some people also expect someone else to make squads because they "don't have coin for teles." To me, that is just being plain lazy. The people out there who are using teles and making squads have to spend their coin to make squads, and they have either worked for that coin, or been cash shopping, regardless, everyone is responsible for their OWN game play. Don't expect others to pay your way in the game. I have been playing the game for 10 years. I am old school and played my toon all the way to 105 before I RA'd my toon. I did not power level or expect others to do anything for me.
There have been many changes in the game over this time frame. When the game first started, people worked together in a squad to get the job done. If someone was struggling with what to do, people in the squad did NOT shame them and call them fail, people HELPED that person to learn what they needed to do to be successful. I myself like the game better from years ago when we had that friendly, helpful environment in the game. I miss when DQ items were worth something and your drops from killing mobs and bosses actually helped you to pay your repair bills.
I know people will tell you to farm TT, Warsong, FSP, DDH, and DUP, IBU and all them places. It is hard to do that if you don't have fairly decent gear. That is true. However, there are things that newer players and lower geared people can do to make money. It isn't an instant rich scheme, but over time, you can build up a good amount of coin... You dig mats and sell them, plants too. You dig the appropriate mats to make Ultimate Subs and sell them. If you don't know what those mats are, you go to where General Summer is in Arch. and you look at the forge right by him and it will tell you what mats and how many to make an Ultimate Sub. Jolly Jones is also a good way to get coin. Your characters between level 20-80 can visit Jolly Old Jones every day and get free coins and also some tokens to do 6 or 7 quests per day that are very easy to get additional coin. Another way for newer players or undergeared players is to see what mats are selling well in cat shops that are needed to upgrade your crafting skills and to kill mobs that drop those things and sell those items as well. Also, upgrade your crafting skills with the FREE mats you get from killing mobs and digging things and with those upgraded crafting skills you can charge people to make things for them. You can also get most molds cheap these days, You can make the item and sell it for a profit doing that as well. It is just your time farming for the mats to make the molds. So, it is 100% profit this way.
Bottom line is, if you love the game like I do, you will find things that you enjoy and concentrate on doing the things you like. No one is forcing you to stay here and no one is forcing you to do something you don't want to. This is a game, not real life. People should be kind to each other, be helpful, and make your own squads for what you want to do and stop complaining like a child that is picked last for kick ball or whatever. Put your big girl or boy panties on and make a squad...

boo4u wrote: »

how do people still love this game is beyond me.

It's because people like me are addicted to the game. And no, not having the best armor and weapon but only come online to check on things and give some help to people who need it.

lmao, you should have join 10 year ago then. There's a lot of the mechanic that was change to get gear easyer to lv faster. If you can't find a team, make one. This is not a game for the weak, you put the time in to gear up, or you pay a fortune. The choice is yours.

mysticblue#1834 wrote: »

tchp wrote: »

lmao, you should have join 10 year ago then. There's a lot of the mechanic that was change to get gear easyer to lv faster. If you can't find a team, make one. This is not a game for the weak, you put the time in to gear up, or you pay a fortune. The choice is yours.

Not everyone could start playing PWI from years ago so that's not a nice excuse for gearing up.

LOL what weak? All you need is
just a cc and your hands to thrust on the keys.. (At the very best some practice if you consider pvp between similiar end geared players which is not the case in mass pvp since you get so many squish bags to maul through)

And most of the pvp events in PWI are mass pvp.

While I agree that f2p players have to put time in farming for the gear they require but don't you think that it requires an insane amount of time to be put unless one has a fairly decent geared main already? (And yes a lot of people are still at G15 not even G16 with half broken shards... so they already don't have a chance lol)

Well there are alternatives but atleast farming is not the way to make it to R9 (not feasible enough anymore) unless you already have one R9 toon (the bare minimum if you are going to farm all alone by yourself)

im not really sure, if you read that comment the right way ;-)

The point is, the game is 10 year old, They included pills to level you in 5 minute. They even give you gear so you can do the quest. Most skill from lv 0 to 95 cost 0 Coins.

you don't really need coins that much until you start hitting the PVP world.

Also will remind you ( in case you don'T know ) ALL PWI SERVER ARE PVE NOW, Since they merge. You want to PVP vs the Princes of the black Gold and the Masters of capitlism....

Unless you have a black hole in your pocket, you will never finish this game, Also... it has no end buddy !

Reminds me of 2009 when people where crying they could not do 2-3 and 3-2 up cause there was no potion to survive AOE.
But if you had 2 cleric in the team, guess what you could !

Want to be force spoon feed ! go play WOW.

tchp wrote: »

The point is, the game is 10 year old, They included pills to level you in 5 minute. They even give you gear so you can do the quest. Most skill from lv 0 to 95 cost 0 Coins.

you don't really need coins that much until you start hitting the PVP world.

Also will remind you ( in case you don'T know ) ALL PWI SERVER ARE PVE NOW, Since they merge. You want to PVP vs the Princes of the black Gold and the Masters of capitlism....

Unless you have a black hole in your pocket, you will never finish this game, Also... it has no end buddy !

Reminds me of 2009 when people where crying they could not do 2-3 and 3-2 up cause there was no potion to survive AOE.
But if you had 2 cleric in the team, guess what you could !

Want to be force spoon feed ! go play WOW.

Lol that's precisely what I said mostly you need a credit card basic class knowledge to have easy time for most mass PvP ingame events. (maybe a very few genie skills)

Something like TNF or pk mode would require to utilise your knowledge to the best extent.

PWI keeps bringing more and more stuff -_-" weapon procs and eventually armour procs as well... (glyphs are not a big deal since they mostly amplify existing skills in a way..)

I wonder how do people keep all of that stuff inside their head.(I mean one should know the opponent skill animation or the skill itself to be able to counter as soon as possible)

It seems I did slightly misread the previous comment.😅