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@memegirl2 they are not going to answer. they are there, updating the cash shop perfectly on time.
they just dont care to answer you or anyone else.
if they answer without a substantial change, we will rage. if they dont answer, we will rage until we get quiet. risk assessment indicates the latter choice is the smart choice.
they will find a way to patch their hidden problem then throw free **** at us until we shut up, then in a few months they will abuse us again.
there was NEVER a deadline to provide an answer, PWE/arcgames has never been timely or attentive about answering problems like these and in this case they are going to continue to hide behind "china makes the game"....
but where is @orinj though? see, this is how you can tell there will not be any good news. thats how this company works. they getting their money, they have other games.
the PLAYER loves the game, the COMPANY makes money off it.0 -
ummm, maybe there all in Jail... kidding of course:)0
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dagoddominator wrote: »hmm seems my comment was deleted.
@memegirl2 they are not going to answer. they are there, updating the cash shop perfectly on time.
they just dont care to answer you or anyone else.
if they answer without a substantial change, we will rage. if they dont answer, we will rage until we get quiet. risk assessment indicates the latter choice is the smart choice.
they will find a way to patch their hidden problem then throw free **** at us until we shut up, then in a few months they will abuse us again.
there was NEVER a deadline to provide an answer, PWE/arcgames has never been timely or attentive about answering problems like these and in this case they are going to continue to hide behind "china makes the game"....
but where is @orinj though? see, this is how you can tell there will not be any good news. thats how this company works. they getting their money, they have other games.
the PLAYER loves the game, the COMPANY makes money off it.
Now that you mention orinj, I remember that almost 2 years ago, he/she made a thread about the chance to start a new pvp server, it was pretty much asking for feedback from the playerbase.
Here is the thread: https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/pwi#/discussion/1205481/any-interest-in-a-no-holds-barred-pvp-server-which-events-do-you-like-custom-pet-or-mount/p1
His/her last post on that same thread was on july 2016, like a month after he/she open that thread.
His/her last post on pwi forum seems to be almost as old, is basically answering something about some altea promo to someone here: https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/pwi#/discussion/comment/12731674
Now, this person is or was "head of the US Studio that runs PWI"
But we never saw orinj again arround here.
The irony is that he or she (no idea what gender is) have a signature that say, and I quote: "F.E.A.R. has two meanings: Forget Everything And Run - OR - Face Everything And Rise. The choice is yours, my friend."
I guess the choice was to forget everything and run in this case....
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10 bucks says we get a new PWE spokesperson/CM before anything is done to fix the ARC issue or the state of the game. That seems to be PWE's way of dealing with its playerbase. **** things up and ignore it and the playerbase for a while, and then send in a new face so ppl quieten down thinking things are gonna change. Where did domino or orinj even go? All those posts about bettering the game and being active on the forums and helping as much as possible?
Anyone else notice since PWE has been killing off all its old games, the new lineup are all pay to play?
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Domino left PWE, Oranj is still around but is the head as so not really their place on the forums.
Looks to me like people have taken on to much. I hope we don't have another CM but would be nice to have a more active staff members on here.
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Domino left PWE, Oranj is still around but is the head as so not really their place on the forums.
Looks to me like people have taken on to much. I hope we don't have another CM but would be nice to have a more active staff members on here.
Thanks.
The sad thing is..Kaly also lived through all these CMs as a player and noticed how they've been slipping away slowly but steadily from the community. I really hoped that it would be different with Kaly..but then again, one cannot split itself to attend 12 things at the same time..so it is understandable. Still sad tho.0 -
I’m pretty sure I know the real reason behind this delay of having multi client disabled and trust me it was a must needed fix...
Let’s just say that I believe it is also if not the same issue on GM’s delaying items being spawned in.0 -
I'm pretty sure the only people who know the real reason are pwe staff and the one hacking pw. That's how NDAs work.0
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If the problem is Arc accounts, the solution is simple. Remove ARC instead of forcing everyone to use that ****0
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I would like the idea of a PW3 with a $15 USD a monthly subscription if it’s cash shop would be purely cosmetic and endgame can be farmed within 4-6 months. A lot of ppl say they don’t wanna add another bill and some of those same ppl will cash 300-600g for chance based aspects. I rather decide which months I’ll pay and probably cost less than the game currently does105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
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to emphasize my conviction in my forecast, note that kalyst logged in and posted the maintenance announcement but not a peep regarding ANY of these problems and complaints.
because they got nothing. and if they had something, all it is going to do is **** ya'll off even more.0 -
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Judging from her "no comment " reaction I can only assume what I think to be true , they're assessing the remaining gaming population leading up to the new "Elysium Update " and deciding whether or not to do another "Mass Server Merge" seeing as how heero200 hinted about "resouces being used " - seems at this point like they're more focused on downsizing and cost cutting than listening to the player base. Also noted is how often the Marketplace Updates & Cash Related Events are taking place #WeJustWantTheMoney lol0
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I'd be happy with another server merge personally. I'd assume we'd either get one US and one EU server or one west coast and one east coast server. I know another server merge would bring in new problems, but at least it would make the servers active for another 6-12 months. I'd rather enjoy an active game for another year or less, than see the game getting dragged on for a few more years with a rapidly declining activity and population. I've noticed a significant drop in overall server activity between the Wonderland expansion and the Arc update. Maybe even before the expansion, seeing old factions (that had been around for years) retire.
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-catgirldesu wrote: »I'd be happy with another server merge personally. I'd assume we'd either get one US and one EU server or one west coast and one east coast server. I know another server merge would bring in new problems, but at least it would make the servers active for another 6-12 months. I'd rather enjoy an active game for another year or less, than see the game getting dragged on for a few more years with a rapidly declining activity and population. I've noticed a significant drop in overall server activity between the Wonderland expansion and the Arc update. Maybe even before the expansion, seeing old factions (that had been around for years) retire.
Honestly, the only "fair" merge would be west coast servers. This would of course shift balance in xTW events further in the favor of the new west coast server considering Tw is already kinda dominating xTW least. And from what I heard, they need 4 servers to run xTW events - I suspect they could just run a ghost server for that purpose though. I would personally enjoy the potential merge but I doubt we getting one.
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Honestly, the only "fair" merge would be west coast servers. This would of course shift balance in xTW events further in the favor of the new west coast server considering Tw is already kinda dominating xTW least. And from what I heard, they need 4 servers to run xTW events - I suspect they could just run a ghost server for that purpose though. I would personally enjoy the potential merge but I doubt we getting one.
Or merge Tideswell into Dawnglory and Etherblade into Twilight Temple (or vice versa) and to xNW each new server take random 2 nations. xTW dont know will be a problem.
Or, since PWE seems no hear their playerbase, just take off all servers.0 -
I believe they can set up ghost servers if needed, but China has also made/changed a lot of things that we used to believe will never happen so sometimes I believe their "we can't do that" is actually a "we can't be bothered to do that".
Worst case they merge everything into one giant west coast server and make all cross-server events into local events. I know that isn't going to happen though.
I understand completely that Tideswell and Dawnglory would be in a difficult position because one of them would probably have to give up on their timezone... and I'm not the type of person to say things like "the game is dead", but it would be stupid of me not to acknowledge how much the game's population has declined.
They'll either do another server merge to increase activity, or they'll wait until the servers slowly die on their own and shut the game down at some point in the future. Starting with November/December of last year, I've seen so many players quitting or becoming inactive, playing other games and just logging on for the weekend events or the obligatory daily Homestead/whatever quests and then logging off or going AFK.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see things.
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-catgirldesu wrote: »I'd be happy with another server merge personally. I'd assume we'd either get one US and one EU server or one west coast and one east coast server. I know another server merge would bring in new problems, but at least it would make the servers active for another 6-12 months. I'd rather enjoy an active game for another year or less, than see the game getting dragged on for a few more years with a rapidly declining activity and population. I've noticed a significant drop in overall server activity between the Wonderland expansion and the Arc update. Maybe even before the expansion, seeing old factions (that had been around for years) retire.
Honestly, the only "fair" merge would be west coast servers. This would of course shift balance in xTW events further in the favor of the new west coast server considering Tw is already kinda dominating xTW least. And from what I heard, they need 4 servers to run xTW events - I suspect they could just run a ghost server for that purpose though. I would personally enjoy the potential merge but I doubt we getting one.
EU is currently the strongest demographic in PWI. Hence, no matter what, there will always be a EU server. East Coast also seems be more populated than West atm..so bringing them closer together would be decent I guess, as there are also still loads of EU players even on Westcoast. If you put up a East Coast and a EU Server than most people will have decent ping. EU on West is horrible. EU on East is doable and West on East is doable as well, at least in terms of PING.
That aside...I doubt that would be able to perform more merges as they used the excuse of "shared Databases" back when they first performed merges.0 -
Honestly, the only "fair" merge would be west coast servers. This would of course shift balance in xTW events further in the favor of the new west coast server considering Tw is already kinda dominating xTW least. And from what I heard, they need 4 servers to run xTW events - I suspect they could just run a ghost server for that purpose though. I would personally enjoy the potential merge but I doubt we getting one.
Or merge Tideswell into Dawnglory and Etherblade into Twilight Temple (or vice versa) and to xNW each new server take random 2 nations. xTW dont know will be a problem.
Or, since PWE seems no hear their playerbase, just take off all servers.
Eh, US and EU timezone merge was idiotic the first time around, they should do it never again.
But I was, least told, you needed 4 servers for every xserver event, not just xNW because of the way things are coded. I dont know bout arena though but rest of them should be like this - CN has clusters of 4 servers, which rotate occasionally. By what I mean, servers A, B, C and D are 1 cluster for period of time, then some of all of them rotate with different servers. Its pretty good system imo so ppl dont get tired of playing with the same ppl over and over again.
But thats not really the problem as I imagine you could just run ghost server with nobody on it to make code think you have 4 servers in the cluster. The problem is balancing and PWE actually caring enough to merge us.0 -
I think pwe has a few months at least before they need to cut things again. I imagine this client rule has helped cut costs enough for a little bit. The way this was handled was abysmal though. Pwe should be ashamed. Even for pwe standards it's bad.0
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guys,,, they are giving away 5 crown of madness as a last ditch effort to save the game. so people will be willing to spend more..... well we all kinda know who's gonna win those stuff anyway so don't bother having hope of getting it. i see signs of closing......wish they wont delete my post... and flag as flaming my imaginary friend.0
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Eh, US and EU timezone merge was idiotic the first time around, they should do it never again.
But I was, least told, you needed 4 servers for every xserver event, not just xNW because of the way things are coded. I dont know bout arena though but rest of them should be like this - CN has clusters of 4 servers, which rotate occasionally. By what I mean, servers A, B, C and D are 1 cluster for period of time, then some of all of them rotate with different servers. Its pretty good system imo so ppl dont get tired of playing with the same ppl over and over again.
But thats not really the problem as I imagine you could just run ghost server with nobody on it to make code think you have 4 servers in the cluster. The problem is balancing and PWE actually caring enough to merge us.
saxroll, dear, what more pwe should never do and still yet, is done?
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Pretty sure etherblade is smaller than tideswell so wouldn’t they be better to merge into DA even though merging EU and NA times will just hurt the community more eh. Again think the easiest solution is 2 servers and simply let ppl ticket which one that want to go to and take it from there. Sure it separates friends but ppl can return to the game.@zeevhaora105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
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armoftheland33 wrote: »I think pwe has a few months at least before they need to cut things again. I imagine this client rule has helped cut costs enough for a little bit. The way this was handled was abysmal though. Pwe should be ashamed. Even for pwe standards it's bad.Pretty sure etherblade is smaller than tideswell so wouldn’t they be better to merge into DA even though merging EU and NA times will just hurt the community more eh. Again think the easiest solution is 2 servers and simply let ppl ticket which one that want to go to and take it from there. Sure it separates friends but ppl can return to the game.@zeevhaora
Then again, with enough of the old guard quitting over time even before these changes, I suppose that could've changed. Too lazy to log my Tideswell character right now though.Mains: Miugre / LigerKing
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-catgirldesu wrote: »I'd be happy with another server merge personally. I'd assume we'd either get one US and one EU server or one west coast and one east coast server. I know another server merge would bring in new problems, but at least it would make the servers active for another 6-12 months. I'd rather enjoy an active game for another year or less, than see the game getting dragged on for a few more years with a rapidly declining activity and population. I've noticed a significant drop in overall server activity between the Wonderland expansion and the Arc update. Maybe even before the expansion, seeing old factions (that had been around for years) retire.
Honestly, the only "fair" merge would be west coast servers. This would of course shift balance in xTW events further in the favor of the new west coast server considering Tw is already kinda dominating xTW least. And from what I heard, they need 4 servers to run xTW events - I suspect they could just run a ghost server for that purpose though. I would personally enjoy the potential merge but I doubt we getting one.
EU is currently the strongest demographic in PWI. Hence, no matter what, there will always be a EU server. East Coast also seems be more populated than West atm..so bringing them closer together would be decent I guess, as there are also still loads of EU players even on Westcoast. If you put up a East Coast and a EU Server than most people will have decent ping. EU on West is horrible. EU on East is doable and West on East is doable as well, at least in terms of PING.
That aside...I doubt that would be able to perform more merges as they used the excuse of "shared Databases" back when they first performed merges.
EU is the weakest. Dead server with no ability to form instances. Wonderland is a wonder as to why its a ghost town. Truly sad - Arcmageddon / Arcapocolypse has ruined the life expectancy of this game.
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Pretty sure etherblade is smaller than tideswell so wouldn’t they be better to merge into DA even though merging EU and NA times will just hurt the community more eh. Again think the easiest solution is 2 servers and simply let ppl ticket which one that want to go to and take it from there. Sure it separates friends but ppl can return to the game.@zeevhaora
This is the main issue - they keep introducing more new things "KNOWING" they merged a very large USA community into EU. Whilst never editing event times of any content to reflect this big carry over perpetually **** over the USA community they idiotically merged into an EU Server.
I can see how it was a fun idea but they didn't take into account how much of an advantage the EU players would maintain over the USA players due to timezone sensitive event timers. And have done little to nothing since the merge to address this issue.
So, NO!!!! I do not condone sending more servers to meet their doom by being merged into Dawn Glory.
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greenfire312 wrote: »armoftheland33 wrote: »I think pwe has a few months at least before they need to cut things again. I imagine this client rule has helped cut costs enough for a little bit. The way this was handled was abysmal though. Pwe should be ashamed. Even for pwe standards it's bad.
I was under the impression that less players meant you could run on fewer servers, which I imagine is the bulk of the cost of running the pwe service considering they seem to have a whole three people hired to manage everything.
And if we imagine limiting players to two clients at once (when i knew many in the game who would run many more) and the amount of players who have either lost their access through this arc enforcement or who have quit, that's a significant drop in use of the servers.
Thats just a guess though because a lot depends on how they are set up currently and i dont have any of that info.0 -
Dawnglory is merge of Morai (PVE) and Harshlands (PVP). Morai was previously merge of Lothranis and Momagadon, french and deutch servers.
West coast servers are also merge of one PVE and one PVP server.
Tideswell merged 2 pve servers, Dreamweaver and Raging Tide, in that time less populated pve server.
In 2015 when merge happened DA was most populated but some american players quit cause timezone.
After in first xNW season was hard to Tideswell get 1st or 2nd position. In xTW only one TI faction has some proeminence.
About merge actual servers can you wonder all issues in merge one West Coast server with Dawnglory? TI and DA would cause less quitters, but, well, not a thing pwe really care.0 -
Sounds like they need to let all the US East players play on US East servers in order to help the US East population on the current US East servers.
Oh wait lul we're stuck on Euro with 400+ms ping.0 -
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