PWI Wonderland: Bugs/Problems/ & Likes and Dislikes.

heero200 wrote: »

• Like: Glyphs for lucky coins exchange.
• Dislike: Removal of neverfall squire badge glyph exchange***

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Can we get the latter here noted as a major dislike, please? The faction bases thing is important, but this is not getting the attention it deserves and I can't help but think the devs wanted this to fly under the radar.

Only one person noted the former as a "like," they didn't post any supporting details as to why, and I can't think of anyone else who likes it. These changes result in F2P players paying for something they used to be able to farm. That is, objectively, a terrible move and it needs to be mitigated.

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Like: Glyphs for lucky coins exchange.
Dislike: Removal of neverfall squire badge glyph exchange***
I like when PWI had quest to get Glyph and also in Primail when we got C-packs and silver coins

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Mystic Skill Gaia's Blessing /white glyphed: not working or skill describtion is totally wrong!!
Skill describtion says: effect ends after 12 seconds! I was testing with seeker into fights -> skill not worked puri not worked, even not after effect should be done. PVE: skill used on boss, and debuffs runned out just by natural way, after 12 seconds was still debuffed. Debuff runned out after 16 seconds (more because count started with using skill).

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Ah, I took a look at your situation with your quest and I think I can see what the issue is. The daily quest you're referring to is Fall's Fall I assume, based on the pwdatabase link you provided. The daily quest you're doing is a type of seasonal one; it will change usually every large update (like this expansion). In this case the Autumn Harbinger is gone and has been replaced with the Winter Harbinger, which means a new set of quests each day.

Unfortunately this means you wouldn't be able to complete that quest anymore since the Thunder Chest won't spawn until Fall's Fall returns much later on in the year. You should be able to trash the quest and do the Winter is Coming quests from the Winter Harbinger, though.

why does pwi still continue after 24hrs? never had any game take so long to install and update...how much more time of mine is going to be wasted? still downloading

having my base open matters a lot to me being archer, my ammo is in there, also where the hell is Granny Sunn??


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For Faction Bases - I sent an email off to CN asking a few questions about the faction base stuff here is what I asked -

1) If an existing base is locked down and the faction does not complete the 1,000 loyalty points, is it locked forever?
2) How long will existing bases be locked for?
3) If a new base is created, does it get locked down?
4) If a new base is created, do they need to get the 1,000 Loyalty Points per week?
5) If an existing base hits 1,000 Loyalty one week, then does not the next week, does the base become locked until they achieve 1,000 loyalty points again?

this is what I got in response

In our new expansion version, the faction Merit has been taken away for good, will not be recovered.

After the release of the Wonderland version, all faction bases will be locked. Factions who had faction base before will need to gain 1000 loyalty points to unlock the base. Factions who had no base can use 30 Perfect Notes/ Loyalty Stone to exchange for Faction Base Contract to open the base, no need for 1000 loyalty points.
If the faction cannot get 1000 Loyalty Points for the last four consecutive weeks, the base will be temporarily locked. It requires another 1000 Loyalty Points to unlock it during the week.
The 1000 loyalty points is to judge the activeness of a faction.

So to answer the 5 questions:
1. Yes, it need 1000 loyalty points to be unlocked, or it will be locked forever.
2. Forever, if the faction hasn’t gain 1000 loyalty points.
3. If the new built base hasn’t gain 1000 loyalty points for the last four consecutive weeks, yes, it will be closed on the fifth Monday.
4. Yes, it need 1000 loyalty points to maintain.
5. If the faction cannot get 1000 Loyalty Points for the last four consecutive weeks, the base will be temporarily locked.

Maintaining an active faction is key.

I did a follow up to confirm the old merit does not work and is there access to the items that were tied to the old monolith System. They confirmed that those items were available and that the old merit is no longer needed for those items.
So for availability of the items themselves, they are all still in the Faction base and have been relocated. For the Merit itself being gone, it presents a bigger issue.

Justice Dragon Jade -> Divine Justice Stone = certain materials at Faction Merchant Rabu outside the base and the Faction Merchant Rayu (Faction Exchange option). Justice Dragon Jades are from Chivalry Points, or what was the old Merit System. Right away, you can see the issue of people who've stocked up Merit on the old system and if it carried over 100%. This means that newly created factions and not as active factions would inherently be disadvantaged, compared to the players who farmed their merit over years and those who have stored up merit (this also could explain why existing bases were locked, so that everyone starts on the same page). From a design standpoint, it doesn't make sense to carry over an old currency gained from a different formula onto a newer system with a different gauge on time versus rewards earned.

However from a player's standpoint, it tosses aside alot of the hard work that was built up over time. So the next steps were taking is seeing what can be done without dramatically unbalancing the new system in place. If we can come to an equitable solution then I'll communicate that when it happens.

For Faction Goals Difficulty - These instances are where most of your end game content starts happening. I can suggest them to add goals in a future update that would take into account other instances that would target BH 100 selections, but this won't go into effect ( if at all ) for awhile.

Faction Squad Buffs - The rift (layoffs) happened during the time period that this was being checked. What was written was word for word from the CN Patchnotes provided to me. EXP/Spirit/Vitae buff for those who still need the EXP and Vitae gain isn't horrible and is a boost from the baseline (bonuses), but is not an accurate descriptor of what would constitute a "power buff" if we're taking it in the vein of actual stat boosts. Any changes to squad make up like this in the future will be investigated to get more detailed explanations on what they mean.

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For any major reworks of existing systems or instances I'll be more vigilant in asking for specifics, but keep in mind I'm not going to ask a million and one questions for each person's specific experiences. The approach going forward on my end will be to assume anything that says "overhaul, rework, fundamental changes" will mean to not expect any items, special currency, mechanics or otherwise to be carried over.

Say for example, if Twilight Temple or Nirvana Palace would be overhauled, I would not assume Ultimate Substances would work in opening it, or that boss mechanics in Nirvana would be the same unless it was explicitly noted otherwise. This is not saying that these instances will be changed fundamentally 100%, but in case they change older parts of the game in the future, I'll be keeping that in mind.

kalystconquerer#0876 wrote: »

So to answer the 5 questions:
1. Yes, it need 1000 loyalty points to be unlocked, or it will be locked forever.
2. Forever, if the faction hasn’t gain 1000 loyalty points.
3. If the new built base hasn’t gain 1000 loyalty points for the last four consecutive weeks, yes, it will be closed on the fifth Monday.
4. Yes, it need 1000 loyalty points to maintain.
5. If the faction cannot get 1000 Loyalty Points for the last four consecutive weeks, the base will be temporarily locked.

Maintaining an active faction is key.

This is about as far from an acceptable response as it's possible to be. It is virtually impossible for most people to "maintain an active faction" at the levels required, and unless I'm really misreading here, the devs' answers just make it worse by confirming everyone's worst fears about the system.

This is basically the equivalent to requiring 200 mirages to open Warsong, or slapping a Lunar-style opening fee on FSP, UP and DH. For everyone but the most powerful of factions, they are walling off content. And I don't think that was their intention, because they seem to think we have the playerbase to achieve this goal consistently, but we do not, and we haven't for years.

I'm so sorry, because I know you've been given a hell of a **** to polish with this one, but the base issue cannot be smoothed over like this. Tell the devs in no uncertain terms that the loyalty point requirement must be severely reduced if not eliminated entirely for our version, or this might just be the one that sinks PWI's remaining player base once and for all.



And even after that, we are not going to allow the glyph farming issue to slip under the radar. We're still waiting on F2P farming methods. But the base is a more immediate issue.

laiwaisan wrote: »

Chill its not her fault she actually does stuff if it was any other pwi person they just wouldn't bother to show up and milk us for everything we got and not care yes we all upset yes this sucks but lashing out at the one person thats on your side won't change anything we're screwed and that's bottom line, at least some one had the balls to tell us no one else in the office grew a pair and if she had been in charge she had roll back this patch and waited to cn came up with a fair fix

Absolutely Kalyst does stuff and goes to bat for us. As I said, she's in the position of having to spin something that's objectively terrible, and I hope to god they're paying her enough for that. All I'm saying is that the devs don't seem to understand the scale of the problem, and that's going to result in PWI bleeding active players far more quickly than things like glyph farming (which IMO is the more important issue, long-term).

So it damn near breaks my heart to see our CM have to condense the devs' abysmal response to her loyalty points questions into "maintaining an active faction is key." We all know that. At present, a lot of us find that impossible. Ultimately, we can't accept that answer. But sadly, as it's been for PWI's entire run, we have no one else we can respond to but the CM.

drak wrote: »

Adding a new one without re-hashing all prior.

Dislike lack of description for two Exp Spirit Vitae buffs:
1. - Acquired with faction squad
2. - Acquired at Campfire in base. The Vitae portion appears to give a 5% Vitae buff. The buff appears to be the same animation as using an Ancient Gift, but buff rate is far lower without any description (that I can find).

1. The faction squad buff from my knowledge is a 20% increase in EXP and Spirit, and a 10% increase in Vitae.
2. The Campfire buff (and other buffs from Faction Talents) can be seen from the Spirit Tree's Soul in the Faction Base. You're right that the campfire includes a 5% Vitae buff.

I just did an FSD and right after Mushi was defeated one of the sins in squad fell through the floor to the grass ground outside the instance. I wasn't able to get a screenshot.

Its very sad this whole thing happening to an otherwise good game,but after few years of playing pwi at this point have to say gave up on this .Gona spend that money i woulda spent on pwi, now on a diffrent game ..farr from pw .Realy hope for rest of you ppl that it gets better ( highly unlikely) good luck ppl cya around o/

weird that none pointed out the trials bug yet
and for once TT didn't exploit it ​​