Add some Bloods into Boutique

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  • spaz95
    spaz95 Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    @beast21g To do all your dailies takes around 2-3+ hours. Not 1.
    Primal dailies = 30min~
    UP = 30min - 40min~
    FSJ = 15min~
    BH = 15-20min depending on what you get
    Homestead Dailies = 30min~
    Also factor in the 30min-1 hour of forming time.
    Pv = 30min a day.
    Morai Dailies = 30min

    That is really an average of over 3 hours for a "new player" who cant spend coin on action stones.

    Also if they ever fix UPD's loot system increase UP to 1 - 2 hours. This is rather unacceptable in any MMO standard. But like the Chinese devs give 2 f**ks about PWI. To dedicate 3 hours a day to a game that doesnt even have a proper PvP arena, Dungeons that progress your gear that are NOT capped at 1 run a day. This game will die with the direction it keeps going. New players are what carry on a games life. The sooner these bloody devs realise that the sooner this game will have people forming UCH's, real PvP activities, TW's that are not one sided, Boring NW's coz its 40% alts.

    All people do in PWI these days is log in, do dailies and log out. If i were a dev of this game I would be f**king ashamed at how poor this games quality is in progression. It doesnt form a community to help each other out. It creates a community to just have a b**ch on world chat coz they are bored.

  • beast21g
    beast21g Posts: 631 Arc User
    spaz95 wrote: »
    @beast21g To do all your dailies takes around 2-3+ hours. Not 1.
    Primal dailies = 30min~
    UP = 30min - 40min~
    FSJ = 15min~
    BH = 15-20min depending on what you get
    Homestead Dailies = 30min~
    Also factor in the 30min-1 hour of forming time.
    Pv = 30min a day.
    Morai Dailies = 30min

    That is really an average of over 3 hours for a "new player" who cant spend coin on action stones.

    Also if they ever fix UPD's loot system increase UP to 1 - 2 hours. This is rather unacceptable in any MMO standard. But like the Chinese devs give 2 f**ks about PWI. To dedicate 3 hours a day to a game that doesnt even have a proper PvP arena, Dungeons that progress your gear that are NOT capped at 1 run a day. This game will die with the direction it keeps going. New players are what carry on a games life. The sooner these bloody devs realise that the sooner this game will have people forming UCH's, real PvP activities, TW's that are not one sided, Boring NW's coz its 40% alts.

    All people do in PWI these days is log in, do dailies and log out. If i were a dev of this game I would be f**king ashamed at how poor this games quality is in progression. It doesnt form a community to help each other out. It creates a community to just have a b**ch on world chat coz they are bored.

    i speak for my self, i dont know from every player his needs of dailies
    i dont need UP
    i dont need fsp/fspj
    i dont need pv
    i dont need morai dailies

    so why you explain me?

    When i clearly spoke for myself

    But tell me how add bloods in boutique will reduce dailies?
  • nyaarii
    nyaarii Posts: 1 Arc User
    [quote="beast21g;12734478"][quote="spaz95;12734475"]@beast21g To do all your dailies takes around 2-3+ hours. Not 1.
    Primal dailies = 30min~
    UP = 30min - 40min~
    FSJ = 15min~
    BH = 15-20min depending on what you get
    Homestead Dailies = 30min~
    Also factor in the 30min-1 hour of forming time.
    Pv = 30min a day.
    Morai Dailies = 30min

    That is really an average of over 3 hours for a "new player" who cant spend coin on action stones.

    Also if they ever fix UPD's loot system increase UP to 1 - 2 hours. This is rather unacceptable in any MMO standard. But like the Chinese devs give 2 f**ks about PWI. To dedicate 3 hours a day to a game that doesnt even have a proper PvP arena, Dungeons that progress your gear that are NOT capped at 1 run a day. This game will die with the direction it keeps going. New players are what carry on a games life. The sooner these bloody devs realise that the sooner this game will have people forming UCH's, real PvP activities, TW's that are not one sided, Boring NW's coz its 40% alts.

    All people do in PWI these days is log in, do dailies and log out. If i were a dev of this game I would be f**king ashamed at how poor this games quality is in progression. It doesnt form a community to help each other out. It creates a community to just have a b**ch on world chat coz they are bored.

    [/quote]
    i dont need UP
    i dont need fsp/fspj
    i dont need pv
    i dont need morai dailies[/quote]

    UP - need for upcoming g17 weapon
    fsp/fsj need for star chart materials and cards (unless you already have max star chart and rb2 cards which case if u have must cs)
    pv - need unless you're 105x3
    morai - need unless you have all your skills/done pv/farm charms or buy them other ways.

    only ones i can see new characters might not need is last two but only if they arent really new characters.​​
  • beast21g
    beast21g Posts: 631 Arc User
    i'm not going for g17r5 weapon
  • spaz95
    spaz95 Posts: 110 Arc User
    beast21g wrote: »
    spaz95 wrote: »
    @beast21g To do all your dailies takes around 2-3+ hours. Not 1.
    Primal dailies = 30min~
    UP = 30min - 40min~
    FSJ = 15min~
    BH = 15-20min depending on what you get
    Homestead Dailies = 30min~
    Also factor in the 30min-1 hour of forming time.
    Pv = 30min a day.
    Morai Dailies = 30min

    That is really an average of over 3 hours for a "new player" who cant spend coin on action stones.

    Also if they ever fix UPD's loot system increase UP to 1 - 2 hours. This is rather unacceptable in any MMO standard. But like the Chinese devs give 2 f**ks about PWI. To dedicate 3 hours a day to a game that doesnt even have a proper PvP arena, Dungeons that progress your gear that are NOT capped at 1 run a day. This game will die with the direction it keeps going. New players are what carry on a games life. The sooner these bloody devs realise that the sooner this game will have people forming UCH's, real PvP activities, TW's that are not one sided, Boring NW's coz its 40% alts.

    All people do in PWI these days is log in, do dailies and log out. If i were a dev of this game I would be f**king ashamed at how poor this games quality is in progression. It doesnt form a community to help each other out. It creates a community to just have a b**ch on world chat coz they are bored.

    i speak for my self, i dont know from every player his needs of dailies
    i dont need UP
    i dont need fsp/fspj
    i dont need pv
    i dont need morai dailies

    so why you explain me?

    When i clearly spoke for myself

    But tell me how add bloods in boutique will reduce dailies?

    Oh im against bloods in the cash shop 100%. I just think they should stream line the dailies as new people are what give a game longevity. and you should go for G17r5. 2 Procs are gonna be HUGE game changers.
  • magiceffect
    magiceffect Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    I expect that the upcomming expansion will allow us at least 1 more barbaric per day. Yes, it will still require a long time, but that is one of the things which keep people playing. As long as you btch abt it, you're still working for it.

    I also find the ridiculous amount of bloods to be insane, but the stats you get are really something.
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  • agol12
    agol12 Posts: 15 Arc User
    make bloods tradeable, seems like a not so bad solution.


    oor just increase the amount gained from dailies...



    ooor (like the china devs planned) release xtourney...............



    atm game feels like 2009, with everything beeing a huuge grind.... just that (if it were 2k9) we had TT forges for gear, but TT itself would not be open XD ... thats how the state of the game feels atm.
  • jsxshadow
    jsxshadow Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    Dailies, including 1h of PV are 2h max a day for me when I am being slow.

    Alot of things I just dont do. I dont do Homestead, UP, FSP (only on weekends) and anything else. I only Primal Dailies, BH and PV. that's it.

    I explained in another thread already why running UP just to farm for G17 is pure stupidity and should be abandoned by everyone. the only use you have is to farm mats so that you an make a decent amount of coins by selling them to crazy CSers that wanna have a max weapon first at all costs. Farming it for yourself? 6 years GG BRO?

    I would wanna see Bloods in the Boutique tho. Not for the people that started with twilight sky when the update was released (if you dont spam Sky Pirate you will hardly get enough vitae before you get enough bloods for everything anyways when reaching Sky level 10..if you didnt start with 0 bloods) but for new player. Even if they release the tourny...upto 10 Barbaric Bloods a week is a joke. a massive joke. They need to be more available for anyone.
  • agol12
    agol12 Posts: 15 Arc User
    dailies is such a bad thing in mmos in general. shame on blizzard when they started it 8 years ago....


    but taking a look at combo points from sins, and upfront dot dmg from venos .... i kinda feel , that i know, where the china devs have been taking their inspiration from xD
  • agol12
    agol12 Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    maybe offtopic, but i think Szol is teh best in 1v1s (he may be the only one, not requiring bloods)
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    And now blizzard goes the way of no dailies. Pwi look at new blizzard games. Not old ones!
  • agol12
    agol12 Posts: 15 Arc User
    > @eirghan said:
    > And now blizzard goes the way of no dailies. Pwi look at new blizzard games. Not old ones!

    amen.

    same thing happening with resilience.... at some point they realized its utter BS from a design perspective (talking about spirit, for the peeps not getting the reference)
  • kalystconquerer#0876
    kalystconquerer#0876 Posts: 1,421 Perfect World Employee
    As of now, CN will not allow Bloods to be sold directly in the Boutique.

    Apologies if this was not the answer you were looking for. However, we will continue to make them available though other means for players to obtain outside of the normal daily grind. The length of time spent on dailies for the average player has been communicated to the devs, so they are aware of the concerns in the International version.
  • keihan007#7641
    keihan007#7641 Posts: 1,190 Arc User
    jsxshadow wrote: »
    I explained in another thread already why running UP just to farm for G17 is pure stupidity and should be abandoned by everyone. the only use you have is to farm mats so that you an make a decent amount of coins by selling them to crazy CSers that wanna have a max weapon first at all costs. Farming it for yourself? 6 years GG BRO?

    UP or DUP after a while wont be longer than 30mins. Its nice team bonding instance, its actually challenging to an extent and thats just rare on PWI. I expect we have least a year stil G17 weapons are flooding the streets and if you even semi farm things here and there you will start from S2 or S3 by the time its out. This will cut down the expenses of making the G17 wep likely significantly. Its not like you cant skip UP if you dont want to put effort into it but to ppl w/o endless pockets every little thing matters.

    Ps. I am not advocating on running UP if you hate the instance, its not that worthwhile but if you dont hate it and you have decent squad for it, why not?
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  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,880 Community Moderator
    As of now, CN will not allow Bloods to be sold directly in the Boutique.

    Apologies if this was not the answer you were looking for. However, we will continue to make them available though other means for players to obtain outside of the normal daily grind. The length of time spent on dailies for the average player has been communicated to the devs, so they are aware of the concerns in the International version.

    Interesting.

    I guess. I wanna add in the point of not being able to do some Dailys where you have gone above Sky Lv now. Thats just plain well odd requirement again in the face we dont have other means to get these like PWCN servers...

    Deep breath and out...​​
  • ayejay101
    ayejay101 Posts: 238 Arc User
    Seems like a change... they're now selling bloods in boutique... but to be honest, that prices is extremely high and the quantity is insignificant to justify the price.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/pwi/news/detail/10290253-december-flash-sales

    Primordial Blood -15g for 4 P. Blood ---- at what seems to be a max of 4 purchases? so 16 P. Blood for 60g

    Barbaric Blood - 20g for 3 B. Blood ---- same max of 4 purchases; so 12 B. Blood for 80g


    At these prices people would wait a day or two... but I'm sure someone will buy it still.
    In my opinion, if it were half the cost of those with unlimited purchase amounts, it may see a better light.
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  • kalystconquerer#0876
    kalystconquerer#0876 Posts: 1,421 Perfect World Employee
    @ayejay101 I almost thought for a second you posted pwdatabase's CN links and I was about to raise some eyebrows as to why they were selling it in their shop, but wouldn't allow us here. We can run promos as bonuses for players, but we can not sell directly in the Boutique itself, so that still holds true. If bonus price points don't hit it off well, they can be adjusted for the future as well.

    I'll still be bundling codes for players that include Bloods in them as long as I'm able, so there will still be free ways to get Bloods. Penguins got accidentally turned on a week earlier than scheduled, so we currently have an in-game running event that awards you some bloods (Emperor's Cruise). Barbaric Bloods still have few sources outside of the daily's and certain events, so for 2017 I'll need to make sure there's a good mix of both Blood sources.
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    @ayejay101 I almost thought for a second you posted pwdatabase's CN links and I was about to raise some eyebrows as to why they were selling it in their shop, but wouldn't allow us here. We can run promos as bonuses for players, but we can not sell directly in the Boutique itself, so that still holds true. If bonus price points don't hit it off well, they can be adjusted for the future as well.

    I'll still be bundling codes for players that include Bloods in them as long as I'm able, so there will still be free ways to get Bloods. Penguins got accidentally turned on a week earlier than scheduled, so we currently have an in-game running event that awards you some bloods (Emperor's Cruise). Barbaric Bloods still have few sources outside of the daily's and certain events, so for 2017 I'll need to make sure there's a good mix of both Blood sources.

    I saw the flash sales (I cant really cash in on these but I'm sure it's a nice option for some) and appreciate the cruise quest.... Also... This year snowmen were turned on without having to ask!!! Yay! I love seeing all the snow cant wait for the decorations :) Thanks for taking our wishes to heart and doing what you can!
    heero200 wrote: »
    As of now, CN will not allow Bloods to be sold directly in the Boutique.

    Apologies if this was not the answer you were looking for. However, we will continue to make them available though other means for players to obtain outside of the normal daily grind. The length of time spent on dailies for the average player has been communicated to the devs, so they are aware of the concerns in the International version.

    Interesting.

    I guess. I wanna add in the point of not being able to do some Dailys where you have gone above Sky Lv now. Thats just plain well odd requirement again in the face we dont have other means to get these like PWCN servers...

    Deep breath and out...

    I agree with heero here. I don't want to do have to do 30 dailies on my main (The new Twilight 5 daily is long af already thanks) but I have an alt thats level 85 RB2 Arcane 10 that I am trying to level and due to the limitation of the quests and my level I'm allowed to do a total of.... ONE DAILY. It is making my rebirth really grindy.... Would be nice if PWI kept rebirth restrictions in mind when they implement restrictions based on sky level.​​
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