something relevant to TW drama

Viktorian - Archosaur

this isn't supposed to be a troll thread or flamebaiting thread although apologies in advance to the poor mods who will inevitably(spellcheck) be forced to shut this thread down. ALSO i couldnt think of a title so sorry.
can i get answers to these questions asked by Proski(insert multitude of titles here)
if defiance wants challenging TW's

1) why are you trying to discourage nemesis from making an effort to fight you. the logic...
2) why, for the past year, have you zerg recruited after each 20 minute TW + took in mergers despite being far stronger than the competition
3) why are you bragging about how good you are at pwi as if that matters more than making the server enjoyable
4) why were you comfortable sitting in nemesis for prolonged stretches of time with 0 good tw's before finishing your gear. no one else finds it ironic you only had the confidence to venture outside of your bubble when you were stronger than everyone else? or are we still pretending 10v60 against darkside took some e-courage. you guys crack me up.



if nemesis wants to have good tw's with defiance:

1) why are you being such betas and suppressing what it is you really want to tell them. they constantly troll you and you think being diplomatic is the answer? LoL.
2) lazily saying "join us, we fight defiance" isn't going to do anything
3) either go balls to the wall with it or stop wasting your time bidding on defiance and just come fight rogue


noted the last 2 for nemesis arent questions and i already know the answer to number 1 but in the interest of fairness(and typing practice ) i included them.

Zheii - Archosaur

I cannot answer for Defiance or the whole of Nemesis but;

1) I don't actually like involving myself in drama/flame/etc, It achieves nothing. Although I do know I can let my emotions get the better of me and lash out, and have found out the hard way that it causes more problems than it's worth. And quite honestly it's funny watching Defiance trying to bait us into responding, because honestly they really don't do a very good job of it and make themselves look foolish more times than not.

2) Not all of us are as creative as you when it comes to recruiting Mike dear, although I do have a few idea's and am in the process of trying to come up with something creative to try and recruit more.

3) We have been going "balls to the walls" But unfortunately no matter how hard we try it's almost impossible to win 40v80 especially when you have Defiance's overly geared players in the mix. We have fought Rogue in the past and honestly it was really disappointing, so unless Rogue has recruited a lot more or has somehow improved... that fight is just going to end up the same as when we fought at the end of last season.

Proski - Archosaur

OPKossy can't contain this forum warrior


I'm a b-beast

I carry your legacy BLOODMYSTIC

Viktorian - Archosaur

i would like to invite a defiance member to post answers to these questions. preferably Cursed but anyone will do as long as they are halfway intelligent and the post is legible.

Proski - Archosaur

Viktorian - Archosaur wrote: »

i would like to invite a defiance member to post answers to these questions. preferably Cursed but anyone will do as long as they are halfway intelligent and the post is legible.

you're wasting your time, and so is nemesis in trying to fight them because as soon as you pull off a 1 hour TW with them, you know they're going to make sure everybody that left comes back while embarking on another zerg recruitment campaign and looking for potential mergers.

and that's okay, defiance is free to play the game however the hell they want, but if they tell you they want challenging TW's, they're full of it. it's about winning for them, or ego. it always has been, and it always will be.

Rixoth - Archosaur

Mehhh. It is no use to talk about this sort of bs on forums, lol. There's enough troll bs happening in world chat after every Nemesis TW and I don't see whats the big deal here.

Both sides are just stirring needless drama into something that should be a fun TW season after a really boring one.
Some people want to just win, even if the TWs are boring. Some rather have long,fun TWs and don't care about winning or losing. Of course, having fun AND winning would be the best case possible, but we'll see.

Most of us in Nemesis are here just to have fun, cus frankly, the TW's are really boring with Defiance rolling every other faction after Rogue started stumbling. There are simply no factions to join in and have fun TW's anymore. Just hopefully, later on this season, Nemesis could provide this for us - and to the people in Defiance who actually WANT long and fun TW's rather than rolling everyone.

All this drama thats come of it is just childish. It's only a game. Grow up boys and girls.

HideYoHubby - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

you're wasting your time, and so is nemesis in trying to fight them because as soon as you pull off a 1 hour TW with them, you know they're going to make sure everybody that left comes back while embarking on another zerg recruitment campaign and looking for potential mergers.

and that's okay, defiance is free to play the game however the hell they want, but if they tell you they want challenging TW's, they're full of it. it's about winning for them, or ego. it always has been, and it always will be.

I kinda miss Blood. The way Geo got trolled was pretty harsh at times. Thing is Geo got nothing on current D leadership when it comes to trying to kill any and all possible competition and I for one would love to see what he would have to say bout it. If I spent thousands of dollars on my gear, I might want to actually use it, guess we are still in the minority. Those rainbow weapons sure are appealing to some.

Proski - Archosaur

HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »

I kinda miss Blood. The way Geo got trolled was pretty harsh at times. Thing is Geo got nothing on current D leadership when it comes to trying to kill any and all possible competition and I for one would love to see what he would have to say bout it. If I spent thousands of dollars on my gear, I might want to actually use it, guess we are still in the minority. Those rainbow weapons sure are appealing to some.

haha, he lightened up over the years so i'm sure there's a good guy somewhere in there. but at his worst he was probably the same as they are now. they just have more resources + time on their hands. also consider they have multiple people just like he used to be, whereas he was an individual, a wannabe despot, a one man napoleon reincarnate if you will.

Rixoth - Archosaur wrote: »

Mehhh. It is no use to talk about this sort of bs on forums, lol. There's enough troll bs happening in world chat after every Nemesis TW and I don't see whats the big deal here.

Both sides are just stirring needless drama into something that should be a fun TW season after a really boring one.

I agree that drama that gets personal is stupid, its mostly related to ego. but trolling is a good thing. it's just communication gone awry for some comedic value, but there's still merit to it. after all, if you avoid the elephant in the room, how can you expect this season to be any different than the past couple? that's where nemesis is missing the mark big time, and why I said you're wasting your time because unless you plan on playing the way they do you'll stay abysmally outmatched. it's only fun to be the underdog if you have at least some chance (i.e., defending for 50 - to an hour)

Rixoth - Archosaur wrote: »

Some people want to just win, even if the TWs are boring. Some rather have long,fun TWs and don't care about winning or losing. Of course, having fun AND winning would be the best case possible, but we'll see.

the problem is only one side would rather have "long, fun TW's and don't care about winning or losing." would you sit in Defiance for a year of 20 minute TW's while still recruiting and taking in mergers otherwise? it's a pretty straightforward question that I asked them.

Rixoth - Archosaur wrote: »

Most of us in Nemesis are here just to have fun, cus frankly, the TW's are really boring with Defiance rolling every other faction after Rogue started stumbling. There are simply no factions to join in and have fun TW's anymore. Just hopefully, later on this season, Nemesis could provide this for us - and to the people in Defiance who actually WANT long and fun TW's rather than rolling everyone.

I don't think anyone can doubt that, this is the first time nem has consistently strung together disadvantaged tw's for the sake of competition, so you deserve some props for that. but again, the problem is only one side wants that. I've done the same thing for my factions (encourage people to leave for competition, migrate us out from a winning spot to a weaker spot just for competition, and so on), and all I got in return was a slew of fake bids and other 'tactics' as the other group likes to delude themselves into thinking, so most of us got bored and stopped trying.

Rixoth - Archosaur wrote: »

All this drama thats come of it is just childish. It's only a game. Grow up boys and girls.

like I said above, it's all ego for them, it always has been and it always will be. BLOOD and I were saying these things for years, and at some point I'll get bored of it and stop just like he has, and then what? nobody should get upset just because a few of us have pointed it out, it's harmless critical thinking. this game could use more people who brag about making the server a better place over the people that brag about themselves. I be da minority.

_CurseD - Archosaur

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Rixoth - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

after all, if you avoid the elephant in the room, how can you expect this season to be any different than the past couple? that's where nemesis is missing the mark big time, and why I said you're wasting your time because unless you plan on playing the way they do you'll stay abysmally outmatched. it's only fun to be the underdog if you have at least some chance (i.e., defending for 50 - to an hour)

Well. I don't see any other faction stepping up. I don't see anything wrong in TRYING. We're not stupid, we know atm we can't win them, and we would need at least two more squads to be able to do that. Again, emphasis on trying to have FUN.

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

the problem is only one side would rather have "long, fun TW's and don't care about winning or losing." would you sit in Defiance for a year of 20 minute TW's while still recruiting and taking in mergers otherwise?

I guess all those very well geared people sitting in Defiance are really putting their toons into good use by having 20min faceroll TW's. Makes sense. I geared up for that too! Derp.
Anyway, looks like the fun TW's have died on this server, and when someone (in this case Nemesis) is trying to liven things up, all we get is **** thrown at us, which I find quite amusing.

I don't know what will come of this season, but at least some of us still care about trying to have fun.b:surrender

Deadulas - Archosaur

Who says were not encouraging nemesis to atk us, why would we care if they atk us or not..and are you saying we shouldn't try to recruit anymore??? Cuz I dont see the logic in that at all... Now tell me where these mergers come into play cuz im not seeing it honestly. Pandora and flipside join us because the memebers im nemesis were ganking and atking them every week while in sonata and rogue of course they joined is... As for nem wanting fun tw's get off your high horse you bunch of hypocrits.. your in wc every day ranting and raging how you only atk the biggest and baddest faction yet you go after darkness knowing you would roll them... i guess if your gonna have a 20min tw you may as well be on top right... as for our memebers everyone has there own reason for joining and staying were friends whats wrong with friends being in a faction together regardless of how op we are... Now maybe if you spent less time zerg raging hating defiance on the forums every damn day and start farming your maybe you would last longer then 2min ..

Ps. Zerg recruiting

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That is all b:bye

Proski - Archosaur

Deadulas - Archosaur wrote: »

Who says were not encouraging nemesis to atk us, why would we care if they atk us or not..and are you saying we shouldn't try to recruit anymore??? Cuz I dont see the logic in that at all... Now tell me where these mergers come into play cuz im not seeing it honestly. Pandora and flipside join us because the memebers im nemesis were ganking and atking them every week while in sonata and rogue of course they joined is... As for nem wanting fun tw's get off your high horse you bunch of hypocrits.. your in wc every day ranting and raging how you only atk the biggest and baddest faction yet you go after darkness knowing you would roll them... i guess if your gonna have a 20min tw you may as well be on top right... as for our memebers everyone has there own reason for joining and staying were friends whats wrong with friends being in a faction together regardless of how op we are... Now maybe if you spent less time zerg raging hating defiance on the forums every damn day and start farming your maybe you would last longer then 2min ..

Ps. Zerg recruiting

Defiance R> 100+ Defiance-pwi-shivtr.com

That is all b:bye

http://i.imgur.com/xUSvNd9.jpg


no one is saying you can't play with your friends. strong social skills though if you can't even part with a few people out of 150+ for some better quality TW's on a game you play so much, they must all be besties. doesn't bother me what you do, I'm just pointing it out so nem knows what to expect. does that bother you?

Rixoth - Archosaur wrote: »

Well. I don't see any other faction stepping up. I don't see anything wrong in TRYING. We're not stupid, we know atm we can't win them, and we would need at least two more squads to be able to do that. Again, emphasis on trying to have FUN.

there's nothing wrong in trying, but it's a matter of perspective. you don't have to "step up" to anything. the server stopped "stepping up" to fight them in the same way people stopped trying to fight nemesis. people got bored and moved on because they didn't want to play the same way to catch up. all I'm saying is if nemesis wants to become more competitive with them you'll have to play the way they do. what seems to be the problem here?

BDoomed - Archosaur

According to a few of you Nemesis people,

Defiance = Top TW faction,

2nd best TW faction = Darkness,

Situation at hand is

Nemesis loses to Defiance in 20 mins face roll, ( you dont consider it fun)

Nemesis wins to Darkness in 20 mins face roll, ( you consider that fun TW)

So exactly what are you trying to point out here?

As for recruitment, if am seeing right, you people were claiming in WC, that they are recruiting to stop defiance from ruling the TW map? and how sadly we just attack faction in lower grade to us? then why do i see you atkng Darkness, which is wayyyy away from Defiance, why not get a few lands beside Defiance, so for a change we can attack you and you be able to defend your land, am pretty sure you may not have enough people to have a proper atk TW, but you do have enough to put up a concrete rock solid defence against us.



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Proski - Archosaur

BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »

According to a few of you Nemesis people,

Defiance = Top TW faction,

2nd best TW faction = Darkness,

Situation at hand is

Nemesis loses to Defiance in 20 mins face roll, ( you dont consider it fun)

Nemesis wins to Darkness in 20 mins face roll, ( you consider that fun TW)

So exactly what are you trying to point out here?

As for recruitment, if am seeing right, you people were claiming in WC, that they are recruiting to stop defiance from ruling the TW map? and how sadly we just attack faction in lower grade to us? then why do i see you atkng Darkness, which is wayyyy away from Defiance, why not get a few lands beside Defiance, so for a change we can attack you and you be able to defend your land, am pretty sure you may not have enough people to have a proper atk TW, but you do have enough to put up a concrete rock solid defence against us.



Defiance R> LvL 100 + for more info visit http://defiance-pwi.shivtr.com

do you want challenging TW's with nemesis or not? it's a simple question. if you do, the easier solution is to obviously just slow down recruiting so that nemesis can catch up.

they bid on you for a couple of weeks in a row as a severely outmatched faction. you should be thanking them that they are only 3 lands away from you now and not further.

BDoomed - Archosaur

lol slow down on our recruitment i don't really see that many people joining us recently tbh, only those few who left are joining back.

as for fun TW's with Nemesis, they had all chances to win the TW's against us, atleast had the resources to do so, why they failed well god knows.

One reason i could point out in this would be the amount of people actually showing up for their TW, and THAT is not our fault, if they fail to yield their own members to TW, and we actually can get our members to show up.



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_CurseD - Archosaur

i dont get why people always blame the top faction for destroying the fun of TWs. Instead of blaming other faction why not work on your own faction for the better.

1.) defiance dont want fun TWs? our action proves otherwise. Since day 1 of defiance was made. we been going for the top 2 or top 3 faction in the server. doesnt matter win or lose but Winning is always a +. I like winning :P there u go. having the urge to win is always what makes things more fun.

2.) If those people who dont care of winning or losing really meant what they said and only want fun TW, Why did they leave Rogue in the 1st place? Rgoue vs Defiance lasts for 1 hour at least. hint: cuz they kept losing to defiance. isnt that what those people want now? the TWs that last for 1 hour+. they joined a new faction hoping it would be different.. Yes, im saying those people want to WIN :P

3.) discouraging nemesis. If nemesis is really determined, no matter how much u discourage them they will still get to their goal. When we build defiance the whole server discouraged us because we are mostly teletubie members. The whole server claims that it will be just another teletubie will die in a few weeks. will be all drama. Despite all those rumors and all those discouragement, We Proved them all wrong.

4.) Recruitment. We will not stop from recruiting. like deadulas, i dont see any reason to why defiance should stop recruiting. We wont limit ourselves just so other factions can catch up to us cuz if they are in our shoes they will most likely do the same :P. We will conitnue to do what we are doing since our 1st season, 2nd season and so on :P Maybe nemesis needs to step it up to get more recruitments ? cuz from what im hearing. no matter how much recruits they get, they also lose people. So they dont gain anything.


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Proski - Archosaur

BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »

lol slow down on our recruitment i don't really see that many people joining us recently tbh, only those few who left are joining back.

if that's truly the case then good, but somehow I doubt you're being truthful. for some reason you guys are obsessed with plugging in recruitment ads every where you go. this isn't YouTube.

BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »

as for fun TW's with Nemesis, they had all chances to win the TW's against us, atleast had the resources to do so, why they failed well god knows.

c'mon now, this is me we're talking about. try that on someone else. b:laugh

BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »

One reason i could point out in this would be the amount of people actually showing up for their TW, and THAT is not our fault, if they fail to yield their own members to TW, and we actually can get our members to show up.

you're right that its not your fault if their members don't show up, but they are obviously working with a much smaller number whereas you have a massive pool of players to work with because you've been recruiting a lot and for a long time. that point isn't even debateable.



but if you are now truly starting to slow recruitment down or turning some people away, there's a chance some of them will go to nemesis, which you should want. there's no logical explanation for why you wouldn't, but that is of course contingent on you wanting challenging TW's. if you and the rest of your buddies do, then good, there's nothing left to say because actions > words, we should see good things happening for the server soon.

Proski - Archosaur

_CurseD - Archosaur wrote: »

i dont get why people always blame the top faction for destroying the fun of TWs. Instead of blaming other faction why not work on your own faction for the better.

1.) defiance dont want fun TWs? our action proves otherwise. Since day 1 of defiance was made. we been going for the top 2 or top 3 faction in the server. doesnt matter win or lose but Winning is always a +. I like winning :P there u go. having the urge to win is always what makes things more fun.

2.) If those people who dont care of winning or losing really meant what they said and only want fun TW, Why did they leave Rogue in the 1st place? Rgoue vs Defiance lasts for 1 hour at least. hint: cuz they kept losing to defiance. isnt that what those people want now? the TWs that last for 1 hour+. they joined a new faction hoping it would be different.. Yes, im saying those people want to WIN :P

3.) discouraging nemesis. If nemesis is really determined, no matter how much u discourage them they will still get to their goal. When we build defiance the whole server discouraged us because we are mostly teletubie members. The whole server claims that it will be just another teletubie will die in a few weeks. will be all drama. Despite all those rumors and all those discouragement, We Proved them all wrong.

4.) Recruitment. We will not stop from recruiting. like deadulas, i dont see any reason to why defiance should stop recruiting. We wont limit ourselves just so other factions can catch up to us cuz if they are in our shoes they will most likely do the same :P. We will conitnue to do what we are doing since our 1st season, 2nd season and so on :P Maybe nemesis needs to step it up to get more recruitments ? cuz from what im hearing. no matter how much recruits they get, they also lose people. So they dont gain anything.


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that's all I needed to hear. you want challenging tw's, but not if it's going to risk giving up some of your advantages because you value winning first and competition second based on everything you just said. and that's fine, that's your prerogative. if nemesis shared the same mindset however, they would not be bidding on you until they got stronger.

_CurseD - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

that's all I needed to hear. you want challenging tw's, but not if it's going to risk giving up some of your advantages because you value winning first and competition second based on everything you just said. and that's fine, that's your prerogative. if nemesis shared the same mindset however, they would not be bidding on you until they got stronger.

lets be honest here lol , everyone wants to win. Every faction does want to WIN. everyone can make themselves beleive they dont care winning or losing but its lies :P maybe everyone has different lvl of wantining to win BUT if a person joining a competition ofc they want to WIN WIN WIN WIN lol

The reason why nemesis atked defiance during the 1st week couple weeks was because they THOUGHT they will beat us. they got carried away w/ their win just b4 the season ended. Then They tried another attempt because they gained a cata THEGOD.

just like how they claimed that this season will be different. and all those trash talks in WC

_CurseD - Archosaur

omg forgot to put this

Defiance R>100+ apply now at http://defiance-pwi.shivtr.com/

thanks ayanab for reminidng LOL b:laugh

StewieGrifin - Archosaur

Weeeeeeeeee hi nem b:pleased

Rixoth - Archosaur

All dis trolling and flaming so OP. Such wow. Much dickmeazuring. You gais

BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »

As for recruitment, if am seeing right, you people were claiming in WC, that they are recruiting to stop defiance from ruling the TW map? and how sadly we just attack faction in lower grade to us? then why do i see you atkng Darkness

We are not stupid. We know we CAN'T beat Defiance with our current numbers. Seriously, use your head. We pull half of what you pull, and every week it's like running into a brick wall. We attacked Darkness (which isnt that far away from your land if you havent noticed) hoping they could offer us a fun, longer TW- but sadly they couldn't. We didn't know what they could pull to TW, we were expecting they would have the numbers after that BD merge.

We attack you, we get rolled, you guys QQ about it. We don't attack you, you QQ about it.

BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »

why not get a few lands beside Defiance, so for a change we can attack you and you be able to defend your land

If you waited to see this weeks bid you wouldnt have had to ask that. See you guys next week hopefully b:cute

Rixoth - Archosaur

StewieGrifin - Archosaur wrote: »

Weeeeeeeeee hi nem b:pleased

Hey sweety b:cute

Rixoth - Archosaur

_CurseD - Archosaur wrote: »

The reason why nemesis atked defiance during the 1st week couple weeks was because they THOUGHT they will beat us. they got carried away w/ their win just b4 the season ended. Then They tried another attempt because they gained a cata THEGOD.

just like how they claimed that this season will be different. and all those trash talks in WC

Lol. After the first week it was clear to all of us here, that we cant take you down, not currently, not with these numbers. The one we won was the TW you noshowed us. It's not considered as a win.
I remember one TW that lasted for an hour, but I believe that was because few of your factors were missing. We're also not that stupid to think one catabarb would do much difference against you guys. We lack the DD, and the clerics- which you have. Plenty.
Also the way you treat payne is really immature. Picking on one person with a group of people on an online game must make you feel good about yourselves.

And as for trashtalk, it's your members who do it and start the flaming. Would be stupid not to expect some of ours to respond, no matter how much we tell them to stay out of WC.

Most of us don't have any personal issues with any of you guys, I don't know why this thing has grown to this extent, when we all could just try to have fun. It's a game, for gods sakes. No need for any of this. Can we hug? ;_;

Zheii - Archosaur

I'm in total agreeance with everything Rix has said here, but something I would like to add which is directed at Jas who mentioned something about those members who had left Rogue to go and win?

As I was one of those members who left I'd like to say that it was nothing to do with anything winning related, I, while in Rogue for well over a year was never a server champion, never won for any length of time really, I stayed with Rogue even as we got wiped off the map by Teletubies and made a come back, I was there for all of it and I never once had the urge to leave and go to the winning side.

My reasons for leaving Rogue where personal and one of them was boredom, I wanted something different, and you obviously where not paying much attention if you think Sonata was just steam rolling other factions too lol. Pandora and Sonata where actually quite even until Pandora's key members got sick of losing against half the amount of people they pulled to their TWs.
I think they lost like... twice? If every major faction on the server semi-dis-banned after they lost a couple times we'd never have any big factions on the server at all. Also at the time Sonata wasn't even associated with Nemesis at all, in fact Nemesis wasn't even reformed at that point lol, so honestly your argument is as hollow as your head.
Also you guys forum warrior like you PK, one dies you all show up! It's quite a show really.

Anyways, I tend to start forum fires so I'll just sit back and watch.

Zanryu - Lothranis

Oh god look at all the drama. I shall bide my time and wait patiently for the next Defiance post, so that I may have a fresh one to work with. b:cute

_CurseD - Archosaur

everyone have their own choice what faction u want to join in. what im saying is stop blaming the factions on top for a short TW because u guys had that b4(having long fun TWs) . most people left for different reasons idc. some winning some have different.

as for sonata, ya i GESS its fun fighting like 70 people w/ 50 of them being 1 shot and the rest are outgeared. i tried that b4. 4 teletubie members vs like 50 amplified. fun tab+kill tab + kill tab + kill b:laugh . takes like what 5-10 people to kill each one of sonata vs pandora.


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HideYoHubby - Archosaur

Damn, we started a flamewar.

The posts from Defiance officers in this thread are clear signs I have in past given far too much credit to them. You guys are either extremely dim, which I do doubt or you are simply plain dishonest by stating things you know not to be true.

Nobody has stated Darkness_ TW was good one, frankly I wasnt even there. Some of us were missing from Darkness_ TW from whom could of attended but still the TW was more or less a roll. Maybe it was worse timeslot for Darkness_ than us, maybe I personally seriously overestimated the power they had with BD merge.

As for winning, I dont think Jason has ever done sports. You play to win but the hell is the value of easy victory? When it came to hockey and teams who were too far behind us - Nobody really cared for those games, they were for improving your personal stats and nothing more. Waste a damn day on away game, win 10-0, much fun? I personally dont understand how anybody even bothers showing up on your TWs any longer.

I was editing my video and there was good 15mins of flaming from Defiance members after Nemesis vs Darkness_ TW on WC, TW you guys werent even part of. If you guys really are that bored, do something bout it, its none of our problem. But I forget the bubble, the ego and the rainbow weapons. I got 4h of decent TW last weekend, how was yours?

_CurseD - Archosaur

HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »

Damn, we started a flamewar.

As for winning, I dont think Jason has ever done sports. You play to win but the hell is the value of easy victory? When it came to hockey and teams who were too far behind us - Nobody really cared for those games, they were for improving your personal stats and nothing more. Waste a damn day on away game, win 10-0, much fun? I personally dont understand how anybody even bothers showing up on your TWs any longer.

im not saying i dont want challanging TWs . i like challanging TWs but at the same time i like to win. its not defiance fault if other factions couldnt compete w/ us ? then everyone start pointing at defiance for not having challanging TWs ? isnt it the challanger's job to give challange to the defending champion ? idc how other factions do it, but we DO like challanging TWs. its like telling a boxing champion to stop training so the challanger can give him a good fight. but ya we are waiting for challange. GIVE us challange

_CurseD - Archosaur

Rixoth - Archosaur wrote: »

Lol. After the first week it was clear to all of us here, that we cant take you down, not currently, not with these numbers. The one we won was the TW you noshowed us. It's not considered as a win.
I remember one TW that lasted for an hour, but I believe that was because few of your factors were missing. We're also not that stupid to think one catabarb would do much difference against you guys. We lack the DD, and the clerics- which you have. Plenty.
Also the way you treat payne is really immature. Picking on one person with a group of people on an online game must make you feel good about yourselves.

And as for trashtalk, it's your members who do it and start the flaming. Would be stupid not to expect some of ours to respond, no matter how much we tell them to stay out of WC.

Most of us don't have any personal issues with any of you guys, I don't know why this thing has grown to this extent, when we all could just try to have fun. It's a game, for gods sakes. No need for any of this. Can we hug? ;_;

and who are u ? are u in nemesis ?

Rixoth - Archosaur

_CurseD - Archosaur wrote: »

and who are u ? are u in nemesis ?

No I'm in Rogue.