Century Golden Toad :: remove barb req

Bloodstains - Dreamweaver

anyone else sick of spending 1hr+ a day tryin to find a barb just to do this? and wasting tons of tele's only to end up in squad disbanding cause of no barbs.

please make it atleast so any Heavy Armor class can tank the damage or something, this is just getting stupid...

Xainou - Sanctuary

Level an alt barb, reincarnate, never again spending so much time o:

Personally never had the problem and our faction doesn't boom with barbs either...

Bloodstains - Dreamweaver

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Level an alt barb, reincarnate, never again spending so much time o:

shouldn't have to level an alt just to get an instance done, takes long enough to farm for my main.

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear

This proves that the game had lost its edge when you can't fill out a popular instance that gives great things so far.

SxeChik - Archosaur

Personally I like the barb requirement since I often happen to find a barb for fsp without any problem.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Bloodstains - Dreamweaver wrote: »

shouldn't have to level an alt just to get an instance done, takes long enough to farm for my main.

Lol... Just wait until people reincarnate more than their main char then. It's only a matter of time til people will drag their alts to that instance too anyway....

Desdi - Sanctuary

It's do-able without a Barbarian. He announces his attack beforehand in red letters and after 5 seconds he releases it; you can triple spark and resist it (additionally Faith works and it can get resisted by Tidal Protection if lucky). The thing is being able to maintain aggro and have enough sparks each time for triple sparking.

Though I'm not against a change in this seeing as they did weaken Hellfire (or so they said) after the complaints of him being too strong.

Haila - Sanctuary

no...

Eledrial - Archosaur

i just get squads to pay for me to tank on my barb. do so many runs every day because there are not enough barbs on server

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

I don't know I think it's ok the way it is. All of the squads I've joined already had a barb though so I guess my opinion is moot.

Honestly though squads are always looking for something, whether it's a barb, cleric, or even just any DDs. I've seen several squads in world chat that were looking for just DDs for a decent amount of time, so it's not JUST barbs people sometimes have a hard time finding it seems.

KorruptSoul - Heavens Tear

You dont Need a barb to do this instance. Well geared Psy's can tank it as well, or just a squad that pays attention to the warnings the boss gives... ijs

Asterelle - Sanctuary

So where's the boss that kills all classes but archers? Racist bosses do not belong in the game.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

While we are at it, remove any dot debuffs so fail clerics can continue to plague squads w/o knowing proper purify usage!

SilverMayhem - Archosaur

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

So where's the boss that kills all classes but archers? Racist bosses do not belong in the game.

in AEU the other day, i was on my cleric and we didnt' have a barb. I told them "I can log my barb because we might need him." Not gonna name, but a BM said "Barbs are useless... Only good for buffs." I wont be running a squad with him on any instance anymore to say the lease.

As for the topic of this thread. No. In everyone other instance you NEED a cleric. Why? hell if i know, that's what people believe because they've never done it a certain way. So this instance is actually the only instance that requires a barb or he will one shot 1 or more. Personally, i've only seen him one shot 1 person at a time. Usually the person with aggro that isn't the barb.

On the other hand, I am afraid that this will have a Warsong Cleric effect.
I.E. On Arch, there aren't many clerics. So ppl Plvl them and bring them into Warsong. Usually with Morai or Lower gear. Dont even bother getting G15 or -Channeling gear (TT99/G15). This is because we need a Cleric so bad that most are willing to bring in a under geared, and maybe under skilled player, cleric to get the run down. I just hope i dont see this happening to FSP with Barbs.

As for the QQing about finding a barb. Maybe people shouldn't bring 2 barbs into one squad? I've been on alot of runs on alts and i've seen this. Arch has a more problem with people bring 2 venos or 5 r9+ Archers and then people QQ about no purging Class.

b:surrender Iim a barb with a 20% Purge Proc Rate.

But lets be honest, do we REALLY need a purge. Its not like that extra boost of HP makes the boss immortal. If you can't get a Veno, get an extra magic DD, Archer, or Seeker. If you can't get a barb, learn Genie skills and a way around it. Just like you dont need a female class in that instance at all >.>. To me, its all Recommended.

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary wrote: »

While we are at it, remove any dot debuffs so fail clerics can continue to plague squads w/o knowing proper purify usage!

It makes me want to bash my head into my keyboard when I bump into clerics like that. Tempts me to log on my cleric and push them out of the way since they have no idea what they are doing and it aggravates me (in any instance in which that is relevant). Good thing I only do FSP on my cleric so far since that's my only rebirth toon at the moment....

Back to topic, but yeah I mean I've heard of toad boss being tankable by other classes, never personally seen it though, but it's possible.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

In any mmo there is someone...:

"Derp can we do this high lv instance without a tank/healer/DD derp derp no like effort and patience derp?"

eraldus

Whenever I see on WC people begging for barbs, I remember way back in the Raging Tides expansion, when people (mostly sins) starded to mock barb players, saying they're useless and unecessary for squads anymore...

I guess the saying "Payback is a beach" fits really well on this situation...

Sylki - Harshlands

if it was barb or seeker...then it'd be waaaay easier. There seems to b an abundance of seekers everywhere u turn..but kitties are rather rare. I almost nvr wanna start and fsp unless there's a barb that I know who's willing to go.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

eraldus wrote: »

Whenever I see on WC people begging for barbs, I remember way back in the Raging Tides expansion, when people (mostly sins) starded to mock barb players, saying they're useless and unecessary for squads anymore...

I guess the saying "Payback is a beach" fits really well on this situation...

Back in the day when barbs were almighty and godlike, always stated their own stipulations, were paid for their work, always got best stuff from runs, I don`t want those days back, and doubt any1 does, this is just because nowadays barbs are considered unnecessary, thus most people switched to better alternatives, mostly archers or seekers (know a few who did precisely this) for pvp purposes, thus, reawakened them 1st, leaving their old barbs to collect dust.

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

In any mmo there is someone...:

"Derp can we do this high lv instance without a tank/healer/DD derp derp no like effort and patience derp?"

It's not about tankiness. You can have a **** geared barb with like 15k hp and it won't be one shot by the boss while a 30k hp +12 josd sharded BM would be. There is nothing about that barb that would qualify it as a tank since it has lousy survival but for a purely arbitrary reason it won't be one shot.

That being said I am getting good about avoiding the one shot with wings of grace and kiting so maybe the issue will work itself out.

Templar - Sanctuary

No...

Xainou - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

In any mmo there is someone...:

"Derp can we do this high lv instance without a tank/healer/DD derp derp no like effort and patience derp?"

Too true f:laugh That's why I love me a MMO without the holy trinity

eraldus

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary wrote: »

Back in the day when barbs were almighty and godlike, always stated their own stipulations, were paid for their work, always got best stuff from runs, I don`t want those days back, and doubt any1 does, this is just because nowadays barbs are considered unnecessary, thus most people switched to better alternatives, mostly archers or seekers (know a few who did precisely this) for pvp purposes, thus, reawakened them 1st, leaving their old barbs to collect dust.

I know those barbs you're talking about... there is a name for them. Noobs. And not all barbs were like that... people spoiled barb players by paying their repairs bills for runs, whenever they begged for it.

I still facepalm to this day, when somebody actually pays barbs for doing their part on squads.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's not about tankiness. You can have a **** geared barb with like 15k hp and it won't be one shot by the boss while a 30k hp +12 josd sharded BM would be. There is nothing about that barb that would qualify it as a tank since it has lousy survival but for a purely arbitrary reason it won't be one shot.

That being said I am getting good about avoiding the one shot with wings of grace and kiting so maybe the issue will work itself out.

i know that astypoo i run it with you b:surrender

altho that i think depends on how often you can combo the skills that use few sparks to maintain steadyness on the boss. Archers in that sense, have it a bit easier

Gnip - Raging Tide

I concur with my barb brothers: no...

Roseary - Sanctuary

I believe this problem will solve itself. If everyone is in need of barbs eventually they will roll a barb, learn to actually play the class, be needed in the game finally and realize its not a terrible class to play.

Chaosbeibei - Harshlands

at the current state of pve, barb is useless except for buffs, its harsh but its the truth. barb cant keep aggros from the dds now days. and everyone is so tanky now, with or without barbs wont affect the efficiency. and barb is a very expansive class to play r9rr barbs with 50k hp every charm tick is 25k....how long does a plat charm last? and barbs dont have the group fight capabilities like archers wiz and psy, so why would people deck out a barb spent the most charsm and pots, not even half the killing power in group fights as wiz archer or psy? this is why theres less and less pp playing barbs. and pwi set an instance that reqs a class that no one plays, there is simple not enough barbs to go around. not everyone is r9rr+12, and barb req for toad boss should be removed or at least set to all heavy armors can tank it. this saves a lot people time, it is not fair for one class to **** over the other 9 classes.

Wickedbrew - Raging Tide

Roseary - Sanctuary wrote: »

I believe this problem will solve itself. If everyone is in need of barbs eventually they will roll a barb, learn to actually play the class, be needed in the game finally and realize its not a terrible class to play.

I don't want to play a barb. I've never been into playing animals in MMOs. I prefer the more human looking characters and a psychic is enough of a step out of my desired character style. I agree with the statement someone said earlier that a tank with endgame gear, and JoSD and 30k hp should not have less survivability than an under-geared 15k flea bitten, shedding, pandatiger that needs a bath.

Knownase - Heavens Tear

This is what happens when you do not hug Barbs.

Fallonswiz - Dreamweaver

There are some seekers and some BM's that can tank this instance with no problems.

Shade and Kan are 2 seekers that come to mind.

Desdi - Sanctuary

Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This is what happens when you do not hug Barbs.

I always do they are fluffy.