I... like the update.

Kerona - Sanctuary · May 2012

It's challenging, fun, and a good teamwork exercise. New EU is amazing and enjoyable as well as challenging. I appreciate the Dev's hard work there, though I think they coulda given the instance a face lift. There should be sparkly bushes everywhere btw.

Additionally, none of the things people are "QQing" or "RAGE QUITTING" about are.... actual things.

Token Price? will be down when the npc goes in a week.

Fairy boxes requiring keys? OH gosh, you have to do a BH 1 every once in a while, fancy that.

BH bosses too hard? Bring a veno to purge for once in your life and it's EZ mode. Can't find a veno? Use SKILLS. You know, SKILLS.

Warsong and Lunar bosses impossibly hard for your squad? The mats they drop are for THIRD CAST of the top gear in the game, why are you even there if you're not going for it? They're not even tradable. Seriously.

Only thing I'm waiting for now? PWI to stop delaying freaking fashion. TAKE MY MONEY. PLEASE.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide · May 2012

I love the new EU. It's so fun! Did all 3 instances already (each one in a row, what do you know?) XD

It's a lot of new content for me to record and edit. Shame I didn't record the first EU run. That's all I'm missing. The new instances are very fun and challenging. I haven't done Warsong or Lunar yet.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver · May 2012

I found the new advanced au to be a bit more than we could handle for the squad I ran with. The Aoche one. Definitely think that boss is a bit much, will try again when i'm better prepared.

The new snake bosses is pretty easy, did it with a squad of mostly average gear, although the barb was well geared.

The new aba was was really easy, i just sparked about 2 seconds after the buff popped up and my spark animation was finished just after the buff went away. Once i got the rest of the squad doing the same, it was easy. I preferred it to the old one, was faster.

Haven't tried Lunar yet.

I also agree that the fairy box thing seems to be a way to get people interacting with new players, which is always a good thing.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · May 2012

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

New EU is amazing and enjoyable as well as challenging.

stop going with cliques and start going with WC. By the end of the day you will find yourself bald because you pulled all your hair out >.>

holy **** they need to make that instance so that pple who AFK, stray away, cannot pay attention, cannot read squad chat, or die more than 10 times, get auto kicked from the squad -_- and someone else auto-queued in

bladerunnerdm · May 2012

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

Token Price? will be down when the npc goes in a week.

the npc could be there anytime again, so it would be stupid to lower token prices

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

Fairy boxes requiring keys? OH gosh, you have to do a BH 1 every once in a while, fancy that.

waste of another inventory slot (same with new eu jade)
usually you have the boxes on a different character

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

BH bosses too hard? Bring a veno to purge for once in your life and it's EZ mode. Can't find a veno? Use SKILLS. You know, SKILLS.

after some testing: purge is useless (cooldown) don't know why veno's are hyped now
bleed one-hits almost everything except barbs (even with lower pdef than bm)
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=16974131#post16974131

NirvShopz - Harshlands · May 2012

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's challenging, fun, and a good teamwork exercise.

yey finally no QQ b:victory. **** the "it's too hard for me if skillz are not in the boutique guys" or "i plvled to 100 whats next? oh yes sit afk in arch", they'll allways QQ about something...its in their nature.b:chuckle

CroPsy - Heavens Tear · May 2012

I guess people just want everything served on silver platter.

I just love new bosses for being so hard. Now it requires skill, thinking and teamplay. Something many players are not used to b:pleased

Players are even more greedy than PWE. Stop defending merchants for having high token prices. They are lazy, greedy, (cash shoppers?) players who will take any opportunity to raise token prices.

And funny thing is, everyone is saying "i'm quitting, going to play that_other_game...", and that game requires teamwork. Something they are not used to do. How much until they start to QQ on that game forums? b:chuckle

Yusiong - Lost City · May 2012

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

BH bosses too hard? Bring a veno to purge for once in your life and it's EZ mode. Can't find a veno? Use SKILLS. You know, SKILLS.

I think you lost like 95% of the people there with that one. Its so hard to find people who actually use skills, anymore. The bosses aren't that bad because MSS is actually a big help. I think its funny people just complain about the BH's when PWE finally gave us something new and challenging.

Empu - Sanctuary · May 2012

Till now, I'm pleased with the update. I am glad there is a change in bh, and unlike some pretend, the bosses aren't really hard for a squad that knows more of their class then spark macro. It was actually amusing to be killed by a boss again b:laugh

Taking my time to try all new things, but for now the only thing I don't like much is the Aurora Agent. On the other hand, the new bh aba and seat really don't need wine as the time save from old drunk guys help is really minimal. It might also help against that ridiculous and annoying habit of killing everything 1 by 1 that made me wanna throw my pc-screen against the wall everytime I did the old bh seat. I hope this update will finally manage to calm down the aps-craze that really went beyond rediculous (at least on sanctuary).

And most off all, it felt so great to have my barb being a real actor in a squad again. Didn't happen in a long time.

Aurantiumina - Heavens Tear · May 2012

I really like this new update, it's revamping tanks in an almost miraculous way.

And the challenge in the instances is making runs more interesting, people actually need to think instead of just going "Leeeroy Jenkins!!!!" and facerolling their keyboard waiting for aps to do the rest.b:laugh

I think that the Aurora NPC is the GM-way of market trolling. b:pleased
I may even charge and buy packs to sell to the token shops for expensive and boycot them for the rest of the week to make them lose moneyb:chuckle
I really feel like doing that....is it obvious that I hate the token-price-inflating-cat-shops? b:chuckle

Only thing that bothers me is the fact that the molds are bound...like really....most people just end up npcing them because they're not for their class...b:surrender

Lulznotwar - Lost City · May 2012

While im on a whole pretty happy with the update i find the Aohe version of EU freaking ****. It isnt explained well AT ALL and the phys immune boss quite often heals itself for more damage than you're able to do to it while the Elemental immune boss just goes around oneshotting people with its BS AoE. While im fine with a bit of challenge, this is just plain rediculous!

Heartz - Dreamweaver · May 2012

Actually i Like the ADV EU as well. it took a good lil time to get me convinced to go for my girl on skype.. i really didnt want to, cos i find most of the advanced starter skills uhm.. useless lol.

But yeah atleast the instance is fun. I wouldnt wish to do it with a random wc squad tho, would take forever.

Vesemr - Sanctuary · May 2012

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

holy **** they need to make that instance so that pple who AFK, stray away, cannot pay attention, cannot read squad chat, or die more than 10 times, get auto kicked from the squad -_- and someone else auto-queued in

Really I understand that realty might call u.. but I agree. Did run on my bm, we had 2 clerics and 2 sins. 1 person left even before bosses. To bosses we went only with 7 people in squad, 1 cleric, mysti, sin, barb, bm, 2 archers. What I wanted to say? That its doable with squad which I had, but took more time than it should thanks to 3 people which were afk most of run.

At all I agree with Kerona. New bosses and modes re interesting and tokens.. yea just wait 1 week..

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear · May 2012

I also like the new update... All classes are so much more appreciated in BH's now... Also the new bosses en Metal aren't THAT much harder if you know what you're doing... I can finally get into squads again on my Veno without being pushed aside for yet another APS BM or Sin... b:thanks

Neodaystar - Sanctuary · May 2012

Vesemr - Sanctuary wrote: »

Really I understand that realty might call u.. but I agree. Did run on my bm, we had 2 clerics and 2 sins. 1 person left even before bosses. To bosses we went only with 7 people in squad, 1 cleric, mysti, sin, barb, bm, 2 archers. What I wanted to say? That its doable with squad which I had, but took more time than it should thanks to 3 people which were afk most of run.

At all I agree with Kerona. New bosses and modes re interesting and tokens.. yea just wait 1 week..

Did you guys do it with random wc squad?

The first time I did it, the run was just terrible mainly because of afks (about 30%-50% afkers) and people who died was just too worried about their exp so they didn't want to port back to he entrance, so maybe they can make this like the warsong instance where you don't lose any. This did make the run much longer than it should. I did think that the bosses were hitting a bit too hard for the average geared player in an instance that isn't used to farm endgame gear as our 2 clerics with full nirvana sets were complaining about taking too much damage.

I do like this new instance, it is challenging and I did enjoy seeing every sin that was in my squad died from being 1-hit (sins who I know had such a big e-peen thinking the are op with perma aps). It really helps to know who's a good player and help update your friends list for future instance runs based on the random people you come across.

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide · May 2012

I must say I am quite disappointed in the update and no I am not QQing. Have I csed, yes, am I r9, not even close but I have farmed good gear on my toons including a 5 aps sage sin. This update took things that had nothing wrong with them and changed them, some would say an improvement some would disagree, that point of the matter is IF IT ISN'T BROKEN DON'T FIX IT.

There are tons of other issues with the game some serious some minor that people constantly ask to be updated, fixed or just taken out. Yet those things are never addressed by the Devs. Things that are addressed are the things that make them more money and the things that are ignored or put off to be fixed later are the real issues with the game. And no I am not saying everything is PWI's fault or the Dev's fault, players grief each other in any game and the economy is largely our fault (mostly do to most people's belief 2x drops and sales are the only time to do anything.) But the buck stops at someone's door, and that someone is rolling in the cash and laughing because of how little they actually have to do to feel like they've accomplished something.

Svaarog - Sanctuary · May 2012

Kerona show us the ****!

Aasaf - Sanctuary · May 2012

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

stop going with cliques and start going with WC. By the end of the day you will find yourself bald because you pulled all your hair out >.>

holy **** they need to make that instance so that pple who AFK, stray away, cannot pay attention, cannot read squad chat, or die more than 10 times, get auto kicked from the squad -_- and someone else auto-queued in

That just lost 99% of the server along with the quote, to use skills. AEU can never be done b:shocked, oh no b:dirty.

I did EU, a week ago, it was a fail squad from the start. Everyone said they were pro, when i pm'ed 3 people, none of them had done it and were causing the quest to fail. EU has been around for a long while now. It is not a matter of how long something is around, it is whether people pay attention. You can have faction members that don't pay attention as well.

Arielielle - Sanctuary · May 2012

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

Only thing I'm waiting for now? PWI to stop delaying freaking fashion. TAKE MY MONEY. PLEASE.

b:nosebleed

tweakz · May 2012

A post that isn't a qq rant or a guide? b:victory

Vesemr - Sanctuary · May 2012

Neodaystar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Did you guys do it with random wc squad? The first time I did it, the run was just terrible mainly because of afks (about 30%-50% afkers) and people who died was just too worried about their exp so they didn't want to port back to he entrance, so maybe they can make this like the warsong instance where you don't lose any. This did make the run much longer than it should. I did think that the bosses were hitting a bit too hard for the average geared player in an instance that isn't used to farm endgame gear as our 2 clerics with full nirvana sets were complaining about taking too much damage.

I had there only 1 friend and in my opinion 3 players who knew their class b:surrender (1 sin(sadly went afk lol) 1 archer and 1 cleric) rest people were spamming skills in.. very chaotic way. Barb ran away all happy that could pull mobs without even buffing squad.. mysti - huge DD, was rare when she healed. So yeah fkn' chaos made from WC peeps.. I'm not planning to go random never again lolz..

Kerona - Sanctuary · May 2012

I had it explained to me like this one, star. IDK if I've mentioned it....

You know your friend who always fails Super Mario level 1, and no matter what you do to try to get them past it, they always fall in the pits. They want to succeed as much as you want them to, but it's just not their skill. You can teach them little tips and tricks to maybe get them through first level, only to see them fail terribly on the second.

PWI is like this. Some people will get it. Some people will not get it, but try really hard to get it. Others will not get it and expect others to carry them through because they can't be bothered to learn something that seems unnatural to them.

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide · May 2012

I have no difficulty with doing the new things, difficulty or ease of doing it has nothing to do with the fact that what they gave us SUCKS and is just one more shallow effort and shinny new toys to keep people spending money instead of doing what 99% of the player base want which is fixes to the long standing problems in the game.

The new stuff just requires a little bit of teamwork.

Kerona - Sanctuary · May 2012

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

I have no difficulty with doing the new things, difficulty or ease of doing it has nothing to do with the fact that what they gave us SUCKS and is just one more shallow effort and shinny new toys to keep people spending money instead of doing what 99% of the player base want which is fixes to the long standing problems in the game.

The new stuff just requires a little bit of teamwork.

But it doesn't suck. b:chuckle

Desdi - Sanctuary · May 2012

I only did the new Metal and I loved it to bits. Frog debuff? Hell yeah!

I have yet to try the rest but it sounds like fun! A lot of people QQ'd to me about the new Aba boss and when I asked them..it's because they couldn't solo it. They said they can't get into squads but when I told them to make their own, they said they're lazy lol.

Yuji_Sakai - Harshlands · May 2012

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

I must say I am quite disappointed in the update and no I am not QQing. Have I csed, yes, am I r9, not even close but I have farmed good gear on my toons including a 5 aps sage sin. This update took things that had nothing wrong with them and changed them, some would say an improvement some would disagree, that point of the matter is IF IT ISN'T BROKEN DON'T FIX IT.

There are tons of other issues with the game some serious some minor that people constantly ask to be updated, fixed or just taken out. Yet those things are never addressed by the Devs. Things that are addressed are the things that make them more money and the things that are ignored or put off to be fixed later are the real issues with the game. And no I am not saying everything is PWI's fault or the Dev's fault, players grief each other in any game and the economy is largely our fault (mostly do to most people's belief 2x drops and sales are the only time to do anything.) But the buck stops at someone's door, and that someone is rolling in the cash and laughing because of how little they actually have to do to feel like they've accomplished something.

That sounds like QQ to me.

This update sought to fix many problems that people have been talking about for years. This update is good. The fact that a player like you is QQing about it only makes me more sure of that fact.

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide · May 2012

Yuji_Sakai - Harshlands wrote: »

That sounds like QQ to me.

This update sought to fix many problems that people have been talking about for years. This update is good. The fact that a player like you is QQing about it only makes me more sure of that fact.

lol no, the 1 long standing thing they fixed in this update was the unbinding glitch, which we all know they fixed because it costs them money since gear could be recirculated and charms saved for TW (or sold to catshops in some people's cases). I am not complaining the new things are hard or blaming PWI for the whole state of the game. Clearly you see what you want to see, open your eyes. We don't need more OP gear, we don't even need the OP gear we have all this update was and is an attempt to get more money from the diehard cashshoppers before this game tanks in the next 18 months.

Yuji_Sakai - Harshlands · May 2012

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

lol no, the 1 long standing thing they fixed in this update was the unbinding glitch, which we all know they fixed because it costs them money since gear could be recirculated and charms saved for TW (or sold to catshops in some people's cases). I am not complaining the new things are hard or blaming PWI for the whole state of the game. Clearly you see what you want to see, open your eyes. We don't need more OP gear, we don't even need the OP gear we have all this update was and is an attempt to get more money from the diehard cashshoppers before this game tanks in the next 18 months.

My eyes are open, I just can't see anything past all of your QQ.

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide · May 2012

No you see QQ where there is none. I am not one of those complaining the new bosses are so hard or the economy will never recover I am simply stating that is update is a last gasp of a drowning company because of updates like this.

Cody_tylor - Sanctuary · May 2012

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's challenging, fun, and a good teamwork exercise. New EU is amazing and enjoyable as well as challenging. I appreciate the Dev's hard work there, though I think they coulda given the instance a face lift. There should be sparkly bushes everywhere btw.

Additionally, none of the things people are "QQing" or "RAGE QUITTING" about are.... actual things.

Token Price? will be down when the npc goes in a week.

Fairy boxes requiring keys? OH gosh, you have to do a BH 1 every once in a while, fancy that.

BH bosses too hard? Bring a veno to purge for once in your life and it's EZ mode. Can't find a veno? Use SKILLS. You know, SKILLS.

Warsong and Lunar bosses impossibly hard for your squad? The mats they drop are for THIRD CAST of the top gear in the game, why are you even there if you're not going for it? They're not even tradable. Seriously.

Only thing I'm waiting for now? PWI to stop delaying freaking fashion. TAKE MY MONEY. PLEASE.

I'm only looking forward for skill balancing right now really. The game would definitely be more fun if people stop using spark all the time and the sage / demon skill balancing they do deserve to be equal on terms of certain skills.

Kerona - Sanctuary · May 2012

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

No you see QQ where there is none. I am not one of those complaining the new bosses are so hard or the economy will never recover I am simply stating that is update is a last gasp of a drowning company because of updates like this.

Oh boohoo, a company with a fairly successful game releases an update that makes people want to play it for a bit longer. Such an evil company!

I... like the update.

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