Can the 6-month TW reset be reversed?
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looking at the HT map i would order a truck load if I was you, since you are not going get any fun tw's this side of reset.I went a full weekend without a good TW and just about had to go on methadone.
beaten by GD in 20mins and if Radi is ganked no showed by them, fun fun aye ?
^ thats why ppl are having more fun in the lower tiered TW's
unorganised/cluster f**k 2-3hour fight > organised 15min roll or no show0 -
Lets change the TWs to 50v50 and everyone uses the same gear (based on class).
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I only know how it is on dreamweaver, but i'm pretty sure my faction is considered in the top 4. We have recasted all +12 rank 9s, full rank 9's full recast 8's etc and we always have more then 80 people online during tw time. It is very rare for a tw to outlast 15 mins and most are we either win or loose very fast. I do not look forward all week to a 10-15 min tw, I can assure you of that. It is not conductive to learning how to fight other players in a group setting. 1-2 hr + fights in alt factions with lesser gears however-> do teach <ME> alot better how to fight other players one on one an in group situations. I wish tws with mains lasted longer, but generally they don't seem to.
So far I am likeing the change. I tw for fun and honestly I wish it did not have any reward for doing so other then the fun.0 -
Ariella, you're in stalkers. Therefore, your arguement is invalid. Just saying. You steamrolled my faction in about 30 minutes in the third week after the reset, and then left us trapped and unable to participate further in TW while you spent a month building up a fortress surrounding us, while most of the land we had any chance of fighting for was taken by bigger, stronger factions. And then you crystal walked us this past weekend, because we showed up with 1 squad of 10. We planned to cut our losses, but felt it was bad form to not show up all-together.
Nothing against stalkers. It was a fair fight. I just have a lot of frustrations.
Also, define what you mean by #1 and #2 faction. Yes, yes. I know you mean the biggest, baddest faction that takes most land. But of course, that changes over time as drama weakens factions, and other factions rise to the top. I don't think it's quite clear yet which of a few factions is going to take over.
Third, the larger factions don't exactly go dormant. They still do attack and protect lands even after it's left to only the strongest few. Of course, they can only attack 1 land a week, so the map is not going to change drastically. Especially members of factions which give payroll want more land. More land = more income for the faction = bigger paycheck.
Lastly, the reset does create more competition. Sure, the strong factions will eventually wipe out the weak. However, it gives the weaker factions a chance to get in and make money and have a little fun. That is what the game is about, right, fun? Once the top 3 or 4 factions take over, unless you are lucky enough to be recruited by one of these factions, your TW days are over. Resetting the map lets everyone share in the fun now and then.0 -
The new system is great, some great low level TW's until the higher take over the map then they can have more TW's as well
This new system is good please do not change it back0 -
Many people in this thread complain that they can no longer get a fun/competitve TW since the 6 month reset. The same people [claim to have] worked long and hard to farm their gear, worked to reach some form of end-game and now can't get a good fight. They say they need to join some mid-level faction with an alt. Their alt seems to get a good fight, but their main can't.
Here is what Fuzzy can't get his mind around....
What is it exactly that makes said people keep their well geared, end-game, OP, e-peen, pwning main in a faction that "has no fun"?
Watching any map on any server, it is obvious to see mid level factions having battles lasting well over an hour. So instead of putting an alt in one, why not put your main there and actually play it instead of just complaining and playing on an alt?
Instead of just moaning about your main crystal walking people, if you find that boring, what is it exactly that keeps you in that faction? The reward of free coin every week from owning land? The bragging rights of being in "that" faction? The fear of the fact your main might not actually be that OP without 79 others to back em up?
...and don't give Fuzzy the b.s. answer about friends in your faction, you don't need to be in the same faction to pve together all week, or even pk together all week outside of TW.
Can't play your main becuase there is no competiton? Maybe move it to a faction where it can be of some use instead of rolling an alt to put in a different one. Unless the bragging rights of "having a main in that faction" mean so much....
Why not get off your alt an use your main in some faction where you might actually have fun, unless change is that frightning.0 -
Many people in this thread complain that they can no longer get a fun/competitve TW since the 6 month reset. The same people [claim to have] worked long and hard to farm their gear, worked to reach some form of end-game and now can't get a good fight. They say they need to join some mid-level faction with an alt. Their alt seems to get a good fight, but their main can't.
Here is what Fuzzy can't get his mind around....
What is it exactly that makes said people keep their well geared, end-game, OP, e-peen, pwning main in a faction that "has no fun"?
Watching any map on any server, it is obvious to see mid level factions having battles lasting well over an hour. So instead of putting an alt in one, why not put your main there and actually play it instead of just complaining and playing on an alt?
Instead of just moaning about your main crystal walking people, if you find that boring, what is it exactly that keeps you in that faction? The reward of free coin every week from owning land? The bragging rights of being in "that" faction? The fear of the fact your main might not actually be that OP without 79 others to back em up?
...and don't give Fuzzy the b.s. answer about friends in your faction, you don't need to be in the same faction to pve together all week, or even pk together all week outside of TW.
Can't play your main becuase there is no competiton? Maybe move it to a faction where it can be of some use instead of rolling an alt to put in a different one. Unless the bragging rights of "having a main in that faction" mean so much....
Why not get off your alt an use your main in some faction where you might actually have fun, unless change is that frightning.
wow +1000 to fuzzy for hitting it spot onAll generalizations are false, including this one.0 -
Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »Stuff
Wow, you're an absolute genius! You figured out that it was all just about money and not about player satisfaction. Bravo. Most of us figured this out a couple years ago.Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »The main difference between me and you is, I'M NOT SELFISH like you. I want to have fun for many people. You want to have fun just for few people and for yourself.
Wow, you really ARE a bonehead. Selfish? I've never once run a Nirvana and asked for APS or high refines... I include everyone. I've also donated so many freaking gold mats from my personal runs to help guildies... I've farmed at least 6 TT99 tops for guildies for free... and over a dozen more 99 pants/boots/wrists, etc...
I've even donated free TT runs to people I didn't even know... you know those people who beg and whine about not getting mats for gears. And I set the run to free and let them pick up everything including gold mats.
Seriously, all you do is QQ about APS and Caster Nirvana and your assumptions are a reflection of your childish idiocy._Smiz_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »@ michael_dark ~ go get laid dude, your lack of female attention is blatantly obvious.
When people make statements like this, they're almost always projecting their issues and remedies on others. Honestly I don't see how you would read my editorials and focus in on my sexual proclivities... Sounds like you have a few personal issues that may be in subconscious need of your proposed remedies. But, thank you for caring about my genitals, I guess... freak.stuff....
Fuzzy, don't even go there and tell other people how they should play the game.
Don't make me make you whine like a little bi*ch to me in private like you did last time.
QQQQ. Seriously, that was hilarious. I should post our PMs somewhere for everyone to read.Aquireis - Lost City wrote: »wow +1000 to fuzzy for hitting it spot on
Really? I should leave the faction with most of my friends and faction hop in hopes of finding good wars in alt guilds... Seriously?
If I have to alter my gameplay just to try to find fun, this game really IS dead.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »Fuzzy, don't even go there and tell other people how they should play the game.
Don't make me make you whine like a little bi*ch to me in private like you did last time.
QQQQ. Seriously, that was hilarious. I should post our PMs somewhere for everyone to read.
Tell others how to play? The only people crying in this thread are the people who can't seem to find any competition. The only thing preventing them from finding it is themselves. The resets provides just that to the vast majority of the player base instead of locking them out and reserving it for maybe 400 players on each server. Not Fuzzy's fault if they can't see it. Shame on PWI for wanting to make it available to vast majority of their players.
You are the worst kind of poster. A cynic who self proclaims to not even play the game anymore. Sorry if you have nothing better to do than sit on some imaginary soap-box an pretend people give credence to your voice, but, thats ok, keep shouting all you want. Hope it makes you feel better. b:bye0 -
Tell others how to play? The only people crying in this thread are the people who can't seem to find any competition. The only thing preventing them from finding it is themselves. The resets provides just that to the vast majority of the player base instead of locking them out and reserving it for maybe 400 players on each server. Not Fuzzy's fault if they can't see it. Shame on PWI for wanting to make it available to vast majority of their players.
You are the worst kind of poster. A cynic who self proclaims to not even play the game anymore. Sorry if you have nothing better to do than sit on some imaginary soap-box an pretend people give credence to your voice, but, thats ok, keep shouting all you want. Hope it makes you feel better. b:bye
I'm not crying, I'm stating an opinion shared and observed by many as truthful.
I'm sorry, I don't want to play an alt or leave my friends and join some 2nd tier TW and roflpwn nubs. Thanks for the suggestion. That's not for me.
And you're pretending that I'm lying or making this up. The first was after the change that should have been 3 hours ended in half an hour with the enemy who we've been fighting against literally for years saying, it's not worth fighting anymore.
Your attitude like many others here are the reason why PWE has molded this game into lame US commercialism. Be proud of yourself and pat your back right now. You deserve it.
/asdfI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
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Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »This is currently an issue on multiple servers. The "not wanting to lose" and "not wanting to risk". I guess some people just like their 5 minute boring steamrolls.
remove tw rewards pls!~~
stop the greedy shatHarleyDaviso - Raging Tide wrote: »The new system is great, some great low level TW's until the higher take over the map then they can have more TW's as well
This new system is good please do not change it back
the "until" part wont finish ever ;oWhat is it exactly that makes said people keep their well geared, end-game, OP, e-peen, pwning main in a faction that "has no fun"?
obviously, a faction with 50~ish decent people online even at weird times adds to gaming quality
i dunno much how other factions of that caliber work, but here i see the precision and organization we know from tw used on all other aspects of the game as well
the only thing lacking for this great community is a challenge in tw
witch we had prior to that reset
prior to reset we had half the map or so, being ganked by 3 faction, and we lost a couple of tws - and had fun loosing!
loosing a 3 hour attack 80 vs 80 is total awesome sauce
also i d think twice before i switch toons from faction to faction with so much guild base contribution stacked....i like potato0 -
Watching any map on any server, it is obvious to see mid level factions having battles lasting well over an hour. So instead of putting an alt in one, why not put your main there and actually play it instead of just complaining and playing on an alt?
Oh... you mean how ~60 drakon got owned by 2 squads of former enrage r9s (on HT) in less then a hour.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
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Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »I'm not crying, I'm stating an opinion shared and observed by many as truthful.
I'm sorry, I don't want to play an alt or leave my friends and join some 2nd tier TW and roflpwn nubs. Thanks for the suggestion. That's not for me.
And you're pretending that I'm lying or making this up. The first was after the change that should have been 3 hours ended in half an hour with the enemy who we've been fighting against literally for years saying, it's not worth fighting anymore.
Your attitude like many others here are the reason why PWE has molded this game into lame US commercialism. Be proud of yourself and pat your back right now. You deserve it.
/asdf
You didn't suddenly become uber super mega strong after the reset.(I don't know why I'm saying you and not insurr since like you said you don't play,but.) You were slowly recruiting more and gearing up before the reset, and even in the 2-3 wars before the reset we were dying in under an hour.
But I do agree the map should only reset if the entire thing is taken.Siggy from bellefleurs.
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@Fuzzy
It's a very well-known fact that a lot of "casual" factions "having fun" right now have about as many players as the big factions...yet have woefully fewer sign ups and show ups. That's why they can't compete with bigger factions.
The difference between "midsized" factions and "big" factions is that a "big" faction can easily have 90-100 people online on the night of TW, while the "midsized" faction can't. That says to me that it's the big factions that really want TW as a whole. I do agree with Michael that the fact that these players need to leave their factions to get what they want says to me that there is something wrong with the game.
Don't give me BS about gear difference either. I was in a mid-sized faction for over 2 years...**** I was officer...and I saw several serious players in that faction get R9 piece by piece until they had full R9 by the time I left. It was that little group of motivated people that just kept improving gear as time went on, and it was coincidentally that little group that usually showed up to TW. These aren't rich people that just gets full R9, they slowly worked for it and now they have full R9. So you're right, you're not OP just because you have R9, everyone and their mother has R9 by now if they want it enough. Sale's been on forever. It just so happens that players that really want TW improve their gear. How come my former faction would lose to a big faction? Because we had 50 sign ups every week to big factions' 100. Not everyone in that faction shared the dedication and enthusiasm about TW.
This is the discrepancy that you fail to understand:
Why do we stick to big factions ? It's obviously because we want to be OP and to win right? No...it's because players that like TW like a faction that is excited about TW. They like factions where every fight gets lots of sign ups and players improve their gear and farm together. Such factions happen to get big. If players in such factions were to disperse, they would inevitably form another that get just as big.
If your server is so inactive, that most such active players can only fit in one faction then they should address server population as the real problem.
That's all there is to it.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
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Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
Fuzzy, don't even go there and tell other people how they should play the game.
Don't make me make you whine like a little bi*ch to me in private like you did last time.
QQQQ. Seriously, that was hilarious. I should post our PMs somewhere for everyone to read.
Really? I should leave the faction with most of my friends and faction hop in hopes of finding good wars in alt guilds... Seriously?
If I have to alter my gameplay just to try to find fun, this game really IS dead.
It's kind of ironic as people from top factions have always been saying exactly that to people complaining about not being able to compete on the TW map.
"Join a serious TW faction if you want to have TW fun or gtfo, you have a friend list for your friends"
Yet when it's suggested the other way around it's suddenly laughable.0 -
Question to all QQers:
Why do you need to eliminate every other factions on the map until the map is left with 2 colours in order to bid against each other so that you can have this so-called "competitive TW"?
If your opponent is running away from fighting against you because they got stacked by 2 other smaller faction, then let them clear them off before the 2 of you begin the fight. It is doable, HL's #1 faction have done it many times.
If your faction is bidding on smaller factions and then QQ-ing here because there is no challenge, then all your arguments are pointless.
From what I see, the only people who are QQ-ing here are the people from the #1 faction. And the only reason for QQ-ing is because you guys can no longer get 600m every week for dominating the map, or assuming the server actually "woah" over your map domination.
All this bullcrap about having competitive TW or not are just an excuse conveniently used.
Whether the map gets reset or not, the #1 faction has barely any real "competitive TW" From what I observed, the only period of time they have fun TW is 3 weeks after the map is 2-coloured. And after that the opponent, probably the #2 faction, just lose their land every single week without giving you any real fight.
If you want competitive TW so much, then listen to what people have suggested. Many people here have given their thoughts about it, but people like Michael_Dark simply brush them off with personal attack comments. It is really your own problems that you guys cant get any real TW. Dont blame it on map reset.0 -
Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »Why have a new leader and officership when you like what you have? I was with Amp for over 2 years, so don't try to pin "not wanting to lose" on me. If I want TW right now, my alt would go into a smaller fac, and that is what people do anyway. People don't want to join other factions because the faction full of competitive players is what they want and where they are. Simple as that.
You just want a guild full of competitive people, not competition. Having a guild of competitive people doesn't promote competition in TW. It just promotes "I don't want to lose" because if they were truly competitive they would have left the faction to join an weaker one. Btw, i wasn't singling you out on anything, so don't get offended. I'm just pointing out that all the high geared people in each server tend to gather in one faction more or less. This pretty much implies to me that the people gathered there just don't want to lose. If you want to be with your friend or don't like what's going on in the other faction, that's fine, but don't say I joined the top faction because it promotes competition because it doesn't. And your point on new leadership and having an alt is totally irrelevant. What's liking the new leadership have anything to do with competition.0 -
Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »Really? I should leave the faction with most of my friends and faction hop in hopes of finding good wars in alt guilds... Seriously?
If I have to alter my gameplay just to try to find fun, this game really IS dead.
....Wow, really? And I thought the whole point of a decent game is being able to find different ways to have fun? You seriously like doing the same stuff everyday? I have friends all in different factions and we TW against each other and still play together. Some of my friends are in factions I don't like but they are still my friends. I find it more fun when we seek each other out just to try to have a 1v1 in TW.
I'm actually hoping one day I can TW against my in-game husbands faction so I can watch him fall to the ground and moles-b:dirty I mean poke at his body and laugh. b:chuckle
But anyway, changing the way you play is what a game is all about. If you don't like that then you should just play solitaire or something.
And before the reset weren't a lot of factions getting "crystal-walked" by the top factions still? What's the difference? Even came to the point where not a lot of people were bidding anymore. That's fun? I'm just seeing QQ about not owning all the lands because you can't get your weekly pay. QQ?0 -
There's a thing i wonder about. some people in this thread have said, that the big mean factions is the minority, and the mid sized/low guilds is the majorty.
But like on DW. we have regen,dyna,spades,temepst as the big ones, then there uhm i assume kindrid 5th. then there's like 2 more on map that can field a few.
Else rest of the factions rly cant even pull 15 for tw usually, i fail to see how 15 in lets say 6 factions, can be the majorty against 4 factions that can field 80, and 2-4 that can field atleast 50.
if we compare the amount in big and mid/low sixed guilds on DW, then there's atleast 2x+ as many ppl participating in tw in the major guilds. there may be a bigger amount fo total factions involved now, but less players.105 - 105 - 105 (14th march 2014)
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Oh, have no doubt that No faction really has any fun fighting you on dreamweaver except possibly the #2. The #3 an #4 faction help cause it is the only possible way that #2 could maybe win. But at the same time, it isn't really very fun. It was more of a necessity to keep you from taking the whole map.0
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See, this is the exaggeration I see in most of these messages. If you're not one of the top 3 facs with 200 people, then by default you're only able to field 15-20 charmless people for TW.
If you're looking for excuses for the top facs to be allowed to hold and keep the map as long as they wish, at least have the courage to say so, instead of making up strawmen to argue against any other fac even being given the chance at all.
There are facs out there, right after a reset, that will take a land PvE right away, and get it taken away from them within a week or two. Yea, thats gonna happen. What's happening on HT right now is about 4-6 decent sized "major" factions are taking 3-4-5 lands in a chunk, and fighting each other. Some of em are walks, and some of em aren't. Because some of em are walks, we should all just stop trying and having fun, and just let ya have the map? Don't think so.
I'm gonna say the same thing that I've been hearing in this forum for the last 3 years - If you want it that bad, get a group together and take it. TW is for the battles, not for the holding of land. Holding land makes you a squatter - fighting for it makes you a Warrior.
But by all means, keep crying about how your gravy train has gone away.
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Heartz - Dreamweaver wrote: »There's a thing i wonder about. some people in this thread have said, that the big mean factions is the minority, and the mid sized/low guilds is the majorty.
But like on DW. we have regen,dyna,spades,temepst as the big ones, then there uhm i assume kindrid 5th. then there's like 2 more on map that can field a few.
Else rest of the factions rly cant even pull 15 for tw usually, i fail to see how 15 in lets say 6 factions, can be the majorty against 4 factions that can field 80, and 2-4 that can field atleast 50.
if we compare the amount in big and mid/low sixed guilds on DW, then there's atleast 2x+ as many ppl participating in tw in the major guilds. there may be a bigger amount fo total factions involved now, but less players.
The least my faction has ever had before reset was around 30. This reset has allowed us to go from that 30 to about 50 to 60 members in TW now. This is allowing us "little" factions to get better. Sorry for trying to improve instead of agreeing to letting you guys stay dominate forever? Usually if a top faction dies they just move to the next top faction. Someone wrote something about how top geared players like to stick together...
^thisMiniST - Sanctuary wrote: »You just want a guild full of competitive people, not competition. Having a guild of competitive people doesn't promote competition in TW. It just promotes "I don't want to lose" because if they were truly competitive they would have left the faction to join an weaker one. Btw, i wasn't singling you out on anything, so don't get offended. I'm just pointing out that all the high geared people in each server tend to gather in one faction more or less. This pretty much implies to me that the people gathered there just don't want to lose. If you want to be with your friend or don't like what's going on in the other faction, that's fine, but don't say I joined the top faction because it promotes competition because it doesn't. And your point on new leadership and having an alt is totally irrelevant. What's liking the new leadership have anything to do with competition.
But I do agree on one point though, any faction that doesn't have the members to defend their land doesn't deserve it. But that's the way TW works, right? No hard feelings. You win or you lose. Just have fun. If your not having fun, that's your job to search for something more fun to do. A game isn't suppose to be only fun for the best geared people. It's suppose to be fun for everyone or the majority, even if there is only 1 person defending/attacking.
OH! I have a real issue to bring up! LOL. Spawn-killing -.- I think anyone that is sealed after death should also have immunity to all attacks until the seal is off.0 -
HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »remove tw rewards pls!~~
stop the greedy shat
What rewards? You obviously missed where I explained TW rewards are not a factor because 10m =/= a big deal anymore, and doesn't even cover charm & pot costs for a full fielding of 80 at 24 Lands.knightsdarksoul wrote: »looking at the HT map i would order a truck load if I was you, since you are not going get any fun tw's this side of reset.
beaten by GD in 20mins and if Radi is ganked no showed by them, fun fun aye ?
^ thats why ppl are having more fun in the lower tiered TW's
unorganised/cluster f**k 2-3hour fight > organised 15min roll or no show
Ugh I can't believe Im responding to one of your pro-troll posts, but yea, since you do understand what's going on on HT...Let's call it Faction A, Faction B, Faction C, Faction D & E, and dead Faction F.
Faction A is the largest. There is plenty of people who hate being in Faction A because they are viewed as the new "Bad Guys" like dead Faction F used to be. They steamroll everyone, because they outnumber and outgear everyone. But, people don't want to leave Faction A, because faction A will harass them or they don't like losing to Faction A being in another Faction. Faction A is typically unfriendly to other Factions, A-Z (but thats typical large faction stuff, sadly).
Faction B is made up of people from dead Faction F, a bit from Faction A, random noob factions, and is getting a large Exodus from Faction C. Faction B and C used to be evenly matched, but due to typical large faction stuff - people have left Faction C to B. Faction B is still trying to get more strength to better match Faction A.
Faction C can still put up a fight, but not as good as before. Faction B and C still TWs against eachother, but it's not as epic as it used to be. And due to typical large faction stuff, its not as friendly as it used to be
Faction D can roll "Low-Mid" grade factions, but does not have the numbers for Factions A-C.
Faction E is what is left over from dead Faction F that did not go to other Factions. They have not fought anything other than "Low" (Maybe "Mid" - I dunno for sure) grade factions, so time will tell.
There is a handful of other factions with good players, well geared, and well skills (great attitudes too! Like seriously nice people to play with) that could easily fall into the "High" category with more people.
Oddly enough factions A-E have some really fun, and great people. Just competition makes some people monsters, and sometimes it infects the rest of the faction - or at least the impression of them. Perception and all.
So yea, some of this has devolved - we're not going to see good TWs anytime soon. Part of this is definitely due to the TW reset, and lack of rewards for TW other than "To have a good TW". As there is no chance of good TWs - which a longer "fight period" should muster, less are inclined to join other factions or merge factions to encourage this. Drama also prevents some mergers as well.
So far my methadone of "Go PK mode and have friendly fun, until Faction A sits in SZ until they outnumber everyone else 3-1, and then leave cause its boring" is kinda workin so far, but it's only a short dose depending on the day.They say they need to join some mid-level faction with an alt. Their alt seems to get a good fight, but their main can't.
Here is what Fuzzy can't get his mind around....
What is it exactly that makes said people keep their well geared, end-game, OP, e-peen, pwning main in a faction that "has no fun"?
Watching any map on any server, it is obvious to see mid level factions having battles lasting well over an hour. So instead of putting an alt in one, why not put your main there and actually play it instead of just complaining and playing on an alt?
what is it exactly that keeps you in that faction? The reward of free coin every week from owning land? The bragging rights of being in "that" faction? The fear of the fact your main might not actually be that OP without 79 others to back em up?
Why not get off your alt an use your main in some faction where you might actually have fun, unless change is that frightning.
Hmmm how to sum this up:
1. Some people want the "high"-grade TWs. So they stay there waiting/hoping/recruiting so it can happen.
2. Some people are loyal, and love their faction more than they love a good TW.
3. Some people are exactly what you accuse them of - they're cowards, they can't stand losing, they want to be a part of "that" faction cause it feels good to them.
4. The good TWs aren't really found in the "Mid-Grade" factions. There are exceptions, but really - no. Most of the 1 hour TWs at that level are cluster-(bleep), not hard fought wars.
5. Theres no "reward". You lose money TWing. I consider it the cost of having fun.
6. Yes, change is frightening to people. It's a big deal in business, personal life, and especially in hobbies. Google about it - its a major factor to consider in multiple walks of life. This is our hobby - that we put time and/or money into to get enjoyment out of which makes uncertainty, loss, and uncomfort a big, BIG deal that a lot of people aren't interested in.
I've asked the same questions and tried to explore it reasonably myself. Yes, something could/should be done. But all of the above are the factors ranging from person to person.pwcalc.com/bb6fc16982637a5c / pwcalc.com/28948ee5778526f50 -
MiniST - Sanctuary wrote: »You just want a guild full of competitive people, not competition. Having a guild of competitive people doesn't promote competition in TW. It just promotes "I don't want to lose" because if they were truly competitive they would have left the faction to join an weaker one. Btw, i wasn't singling you out on anything, so don't get offended. I'm just pointing out that all the high geared people in each server tend to gather in one faction more or less. This pretty much implies to me that the people gathered there just don't want to lose. If you want to be with your friend or don't like what's going on in the other faction, that's fine, but don't say I joined the top faction because it promotes competition because it doesn't. And your point on new leadership and having an alt is totally irrelevant. What's liking the new leadership have anything to do with competition.
God forbid people who like TW join TW factions with other people that like TW. What I can't get over is the fact that most mid-sized factions have about as members as Vindicate does, yet would not be able to pull a full 80, and you tell me that someone who likes TW should go join a faction where most of its members don't like TW. Amp had trouble with numbers throughout my whole stay because most people simply didn't care for TW. That's why we get rolled by LG, or Vind, or Regi, or whatever, because less than a quarter of my faction mates could be assed to show up on any given fight. Even with inferior gear, you would definitely last at least 30min against the strongest factions if you can field 80, and that would have been a decent enough TW experience by my standards, but we didn't have that. Ultimately that's not why I left Amp. It's actually pretty hard to motivate me enough to leave a faction in general.
Does leadership matter? Of course leadership matters. A leader who loves the game and is active in the game is important. A leader that doesn't lose his/her head and can remain patient and calm is important. Why do I say that? Think about why Amp died the 2nd time. The leader came on one morning and cussed at all the officers on vent til they started leaving. Amp lost most of its members in a matter of days. 2 years of building up and recruiting, gone just like that. Come to think of it, doesn't leaders causing significant drops in a faction's TW performance happen all too often? I've seen this in Outlaw and Nefarious before it happened to Amp. I signed on that day and realized that if I wanted TW with more than 10 people, I gotta go somewhere else, somewhere where the leader isn't crazy. Leaders do matter. If you are in a faction with a good leader, that's worth staying for. Bad leaders do not bode well for "TW competition". They can cause factions of any size and strength to empty and lose members and become 5min rolls.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
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Here is the solution that works best for me
All you r9 +12s that are complaning about not enough competion in TW buy r9 for the rest of us and then you'll get some competition.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »Here is the solution that works best for me
All you r9 +12s that are complaning about not enough competion in TW buy r9 for the rest of us and then you'll get some competition.
If everyone's "OP" then no one is...
I dont mind the reset since it does give the smaller factions some fun battles (however short-lived they are), but if it was done away with, the next best thing would likely be unlimited attacks during the weekends.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Remember: OP may be a duck|OP/GMs/Devs may not deliver|Search function is your friend|Lurk more|Be wary of Mods: they can't be trusted|This place isn't a hugbox|Your tears sustain me|Know what Bait is|"Soon" may never come|Postcount, Dubs, and other GETs are important|Don't revive long dead threads|There is a section for everything|You can be banned for anything|No Fun Allowed outside of OT|Sweetiebot rules OT|"Circlejerks" are inevitable|Threads can be derailed and saved|Those who use"XD" should off themselves at their earliest convenience|0 -
Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »@Everyone arguing that players in the big factions should just leave if they want good TW ~ God forbid I want to have fun TWs on my main with friends and people I respect rather than some randoms that don't know the ******n difference between A and C and people I pretty much despise.
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Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »If everyone's "OP" then no one is...
I dont mind the reset since it does give the smaller factions some fun battles (however short-lived they are), but if it was done away with, the next best thing would likely be unlimited attacks during the weekends.
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